The scheduling gods have given the Knicks a bit of a hard time tonight, having to travel back home for a back-to-back with three of their guards ailing a bit. All three of Jalen Brunson, Deuce McBride, and Cam Payne will play tonight, but I doubt any of the three are in amazing shape.
Meanwhile, the Bulls play at a really fast pace, so that could be tough for the Knicks.
Still, in the end, they’re the Bulls, they suck, so the Knicks should pull this one out and get back to over .500!
Come on, Knicks, you know Thibs still wants revenge for getting fired years ago!
Let’s go, Knicks! Getting things straight on the way to 58!
244 replies on “2024-25 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Bulls: Time to Get Over .500!”
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The EU contingent is humming!
@Alan Thanks for the BlueSky hints!
Classic-looking Clyde tonight. Very dapper.
Keep rolling!!
At some point weâre gonna rip off a 10 game winning streak. May it start tonight!
Did I mention Mikal is money from 10 feet?
Just as I feared Knicks early on have no interest whatsoever in playing defense.
More missed bunnies
How did OG missed that !? :O
Since thereâs a relatively fast pace and no D on either side, I suggest Kolek would enjoy.
He’s not good finishing at the basket unless he dunks. I’ve been saying that since last year. It’s an area he really has to work on. His handle is slightly improved but the finish not so much.
Crappy D.
Brunson… stupid turnover… LaVine: “Hold my beer” đ
Oops. OG almost ran over Anne Hathawayâs kid.
I thought that was Hathaway!
Someone should start playing basketball. Hopefully the Knicks.
And now the O is matching the D đ
Itâs missing bunnies season again?
Zero fire and hunger so far, our guys are playing a rec game and the Bulls are happy, as soon as we wake up this game is overâŠ
Is Anne Hathaway wearing like a $500k necklace to a Knicks game?
Can’t imagine us winning this on a SeGaBaBa. This team’s record will probably go like the score in the games we’ve lost — constantly a little behind parity until it’s too late to catch up.
Here’s hoping Brunson stops playing like the 15th best starting PG in the league and Bridges doesn’t get torched all night by Coby White or whoever.
It’s more of the Matt Ryan Experience!
Lucky Matty OâRyanâs in
whatâs the record for open threes given up?
You can’t be honestly challenging this call are you serious.
Baaaad challenge đ
God I love Clyde
Questionable challenge
Are the Knicks tanking?
No, theyâre incenerating challenges đ
How is Matt Ryan on an NBA roster.
Wondering if thatâs Wally out there in a Matt Ryan costume.
Might be better off finding something else to watch tonight..
Well that quarter sucked
I think Wally has the cro-magnon forehead. Matt has a cro-magnon chin.
That was a quarter to forget. Let’s forget it, and maybe win the second?
Matt Ryan’s BRef page says he’s made 91 NBA shots, crazy what they’re doing with the fake news these days
Sleepy quarter, theyâre not paying attention, dumb shot after dumb turnover after dumb defenseâŠ
Thibs will tear them a new one at halftime and things will changeâŠ
Ryan at least defends the three decently.
We should know this Bulls rookie, Max?
And both have the cro-magnon vertical leap.
I think Buzelis was born/raised in Chicago, no?
Towns discovering Knicks don’t get calls.
Ok, thanks. Given his name, i thought he was european.
This looks like a team playing its third game in four nights.
Ok Iâve gotta turn this shit off.
Yes, Buzelis is an American born player, raised in Chicago.
Heâs from lithuanian heritage like are old pal Iggy Brazdeikis (who is canadian and now play in Lithuania).
OofâŠmaybe a 10 game losing streak?
For a moment, i thought you were Pags. đ đ
Second quarter and these guys already look pretty pooped
When the coach is allowed to run a six man unit you get dead legs.
maybe we can get one of these vets to drive a tank onto the court and cancel the game (giving the knicks a day to rest)
Well, not over yet. Been a rough one.
cam payne has the worst 3 ball shooting technique ever:
discuss
Also TJ Warren > Matt Ryan. I guess I have to give him time to see what the front office likes so much.
Can Joseph suit up to take Matt Ryan’s place? đ
TJ has scored 65 points in two G-League games so far, heâs rounding into formâŠ
He’s to good for the G League..
Everyone seems to be the worst three point shooter tonightâŠ.
this is kind of painful.
Brunson making a floater feels like a miracle
Whatâs Lavineâs career high?
The Bulls are an awful defense and the Knicks cannot score.
We said âtake more threes.â Should have said âmake more threes.â
Weird:
Before tonight Jalen Brunson was shooting 21% 3FG and 73% FT at home against 44% 3FG and 87% FT on the road.
so many shots hitting the front of the rim…. no legs
This is the worst game Iâve watched this year.
Also, why is there always one player from the opposing team every game who cannot miss/turns into a prime Jordan/Curry hybrid?
When is bridges gonna show up⊠like for real show upâŠ
6 man rotation
May go read a book
The visible fifth man kills us every game.
our team speed seems, um, not speedy.
Maybe they were trying to copy Boston by flooding the bench with shooting, helps if they’re also good basketball players though
Jared McCain might be for real.
this organist sounds like he is playing a suitable dirge
Giannis had 22 in the first quarter
A rookie who gets a chance to play
16 points on 14 shots, when no-one else in the team has had more than 7? hmm
Missing everything it seems. We just look lost. Tired. Deflated. I feel for Thibs and the coaching staff. One one hand you need to give the starters time to gel, but theyâre gassed. So you want to give the bench some burn and see if they can find their groove. But the bench is depleted and full of rookies. So you stick with your starters. But theyâre spent and the losses pile up. Literal definition of a no win situation.
What’s the point of Dadiet? Send him down to the G League. He isn’t going to get any reps on the main roster.
I believe there wasn’t a choice between Warren and Ryan, because Warren’s service time rendered his minimum too high to sign both him and Shamet while Ryan’s didn’t.
Anywho that sucked and I would’ve guessed we had way more TOs than what the box score says. We look soft. I can’t complain about the FT disparity because we do very little to deserve them.
Looking as expected
ESPN showing this Pels team vs OKC meanwhile you have a 12-0 team currently playing. No wonder the ratings are down..
Bridges, Towns, Brunson not shooting too terribly. We may yet get out of this.
Finally Towns get a whistleâŠ
This team is painful to watch right now. The vibes are not immaculate.
so much for the four and 0 homestand…
and, we are sooooo losing at least one of those games to the nets…it’s just destined…
I literally can’t remember ever turning off a game before the 4th quarter, even during the leanest of the lean years.
I’m tempted.
Well this is fun
Soft, slow, dumb, disjointed, by far our worst game of the season so far.
“ESPN showing this Pels team vs OKC meanwhile you have a 12-0 team currently playing. No wonder the ratings are down.”
When the schedule was set up, which team between the Thunder and the Cavaliers would ESPN have more likely assumed would have the better record?
I don’t care if it’s the 2nd night of a b2b…we cannot get washed at home by a Bulls team that does not play defense. I won’t be too mad if we lose..so long as we don’t lose by 20 to these Bulls. The guys did play big minutes last night and they are clearly gassed.
Trade everyone except Towns
Speed is a big issue for this roster.
White should be benched for fouling Mikal taking a 3
Jeez, Strat, even I didnât think it would take 2 hours for this to come true.
29 minutes, 1 FG for the bench
The game should be flexed, why not pick up on the best story in the sport especially at a time when the league is a mess with injuries and ratings down
This is vomit-inducing
The Bulls arenât even defending well, weâre simply playing like zombies.
And to hell with B2B, professional athletes shouldnât be gassed on the 11th game of a an 82 games seasonâŠ
If Mcbride doesn’t score the bench is cooked.
Our lack of speed is one of the reasons I don’t want to bench Hart for Mitch when he comes back
Might as well start drinking…
I am already drinking…
Turmeric Chamomile tea lol
Itâs bizarre how our worst performances are always at MSG
I blame the fans.
Bridges is ass
I don’t think that the NBA is set up to flex games. As far as I know, the NFL is the only league that does that. I suppose it’s easier to change course and send commentators, etc. to a new location when each team only has one game a week?
Shame on this clowns
Oof. LaVine smoked OG on both ends. Our guy should sit down.
Embarrassing. Just run the whole bench out there and see what they can do.
The B2B isn’t a good excuse, but I do think it’s a little more valid when you’re running a 6.5 man rotation.
Of course, the fact that we’re doing that is some combination of a front office and coaching failure that’s more concerning than this one shitty game.
First 3 of the year for Bridges? Feels like it.
We’re actually trapping for once
Thibs post-game
” they need to try harder”
Bulls defense sucks. This game isnât over
Iâm with D-Mar. We should just stop trying to run with them. Grind and play smart.
If a team is getting blown out or the players have dead legs how much does it hurt to play your rookies? What’s the point for some of these players sitting on the bench..
Unfortunately our defense sucks too
That’s the thing about playing at the pace the Bulls play at, leads can disappear in a hurry.
Comeback time, all you quitters.
Finally bringing the Payne
I know the NBA flexes games on ESPN after the all star break to get more playoff relevant games on. TNT just flexed out Knicks/Magic in Dec.
For the past 2 minutes weâve gotten the game I expected
17-0
That was unexpectedly fast
Hope nobody took a bathroom break
Down 5 is better than 22, right?
I wish that Mikal heave had gone in. Fun!
Well that 17-0 run was refreshingâŠ
It took 32 minutes but finally both teams remember who they areâŠ
Was Brunson on the bench for that whole run?
Whatever Thibs said in that last time out needs to be bottled and brought out every game.
Maybe they got some cocaine from Jon Jones. Whatever works!
Coby White has a permanent look of surprise on his face
Cam Payne in a nutshellâŠ
Did I mention I love Cam Payne?
Oh me of little faith…
Holy shit!
Bulls in disarray!
Hart and Muscle!
Towns is so relaxed on that 3ball
“Cameron Payne igniting an improbable comeback” is the kind of thing I am used to happening against the Knicks
josh is exhausted
“KATalytic” -Clyde
well.. .perhaps we can defend the 3pt?
Towns is insane.
Stop running!
I am dumbfounded we got KAT for what we traded
Max Payne.
If we lose this one after that comeback it would be devastating
Second night in a row that we had a nice stretch with Brunson on the bench, tonight Camâs energy changed the gameâŠ
Yeah defense immediately went to shit again as soon as Knicks took the lead.
We play too slow with someone ⊠I wonât say whoâŠ
Classic fake comeback where we never taje a lead
If KAT could play defense heâd be one of the greatest of all time
Bridges part of the solution tonight.
Brunson WTF was that.
Come on, Brunson.
Bench the captain!
Just so fucking bad defensively…
Get a fucking stop
Brunsonian….
Finally!
My emotions can’t handle this season and it’s only the 11th game…
I love Townsâs grit but we need his knee more than this game.
That was actually a foul on KAT refs helped us there
towns looks like he’s about to pass a stone
Season over
Cheer the captain!
Zach LaVine bestowing a knee injury onto someone else is some Greek tragedy shit
Williams got brunsoned
Just please don’t allow a 3pt attempt on this final shot…
Clyde a little off his game why would they give a foul and let us have the last shot?
That was clutch. They need to get a stop b/c OT will mean a loss.
Fucking awful defense…
WTF Josh
Hart. Only in NY kids. Only in NY.
I hate everything
#BrainFhart
Hart is a fucking moron
Dumb team does dumb things
Did we get called a foul for swiping his hair?
That was not a foul
Fucking embarrassing loss
got to be fucking kidding
I canât believe Hart made that foul, I just canât.
Oh come the fuck on.
Yeah Iâm out on Thibs. He has run the whole team into the ground and has a 5-6 record to show for it.
This team will never win shit with this awful pathetic defense.
Hart running off the court dumb foul
how the fuck did that not go in??
Every now and then we get reminded that rooting for the Knicks is really about pain and misery… fuck this shit.
What a dumb loss
Fire Thibs, trade everybody I don’t give a shit anymore.
I couldnât tell if that was a foul or not, but if it was, Hart should probably get fined for idiocy.
Still no identity
Fuck!
BUT. That was a GREAT game experience to help this group believe in themselves and âgelâ as we say. Focus on the comeback we can do it again.
Good things, ahead, gents. Good things.
Bring the doom umbrellas tomorrow.
Hartbreaking loss. Live by his emotion, die by it.
Maybe we can hire a coach with a defensive pedigree.
Itâs a Hard Knicks Life
Was furious at Hart at first but didnât see much on the replay.
That fucking rim, man. Fuck.
Yeah great experience to blow a game at home against a team that probably won’t even make the play in tourney.
Thibs doesn’t work without rim protection
Thibs did a good job in some past seasons but this is like a caricature. Every starter played a billion minutes and we lost to a crummy team in November.
Weâre not going to be any good with that guy coaching this particular team. It just doesnât work.
The east is terrible
All you need is the 10th seed
It doesn’t matter at all if that was a foul or not, Hart has to fucking know you cannot contest a shot like that because the refs will probably call it, and we have no challenges left. You lost the assignment, let the dude take the fucking shot and live with the result, worse scenario you’re still down 1 with 3 seconds left.
What wins dumb moment of the week, that Josh Hart contest or Spoelstra’s time out call?
If Coby White had cornrows we win the game
What’s going on right now
Certain players showing talent
No bench because thibs and leon to an extent
Zero coaching
https://x.com/TheStrickland/status/1856895176897106005?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
We clicked well together finally and came back from 22 down on the second game of a back to back. Both our top guys came through down the stretch. A different roll and we win. Bridges had a good game. Payne showed a bit and even Sims was not embarrassing tonight.
Itâs a marathon, not a sprint.
This is a talented team that is punching way below its weight despite the fact that the coach is using a playoff rotation in November. I respect Thibs for what he has done in the league but this is just not going to end well.
They played 32 shitty minutes against a swiss cheese defense team before waking up, their best players missed 6 costly FTs and they lost the game on a dumb foul (there was no reason to try, Hart was late, White was already off balance, the refs call it 99,9% of the time just for the dynamic: let him shoot).
How did Brunsonâs shot not go in?
Thibs career
Very good coach when he needs to coach up a team a team with low talent level
Can’t coach a team with talent
It’s his resume
Another blown 4th quarter lead, Knicks have 6 losses and had 2nd half leads in 4 of them.
you can see hart push white in the back and then quickly pull his hand away once I imagine he thinks his body is no longer obscuring the push.
Stop playing players 40 minutes on a b2b . Thibs is anti rookies and Matt Ryan seems like he’s poo
possible the l2m says no hart foul and also cites the blatant moving screen from vuc that freed him
Knicks took the lead with 9 mins left, didn’t have to come down to the final possession.
Luckily for Hart tommorow is Podcast Thursdays.
The Knicks starters played 186 minutes
The Bulls starters played 167 minutes
I agree Thibs underutilizes his bench but tonight is not the night to bitch about it
Karl-Anthony Towns is on the Garden floor, still in uniform, shooting free throws with Mark Bryant feeding him the ball.
I appreciate it.
Minutes add up and this was a b2b. The question is does Thibs trust anybody on the bench not named Payne and Mcbride..That problem lies between Leon and Thibs.
Berman trolling the Knicks on Twitter is the only positive about the start of this season.
The entire team should be out on the court working on team defense instead.
I hear you, but this was not game seven. Who cares?
Itâs a clichĂ©, but we must fail (often spectacularly) in order to learn.
Rather they fuck up now in November.
More important is KATâs knee.
Payne was a +11 , only 16 minutes
80 minutes for the Bullsâ shitty bench, 52 minutes for the Knicksâ bench. Bulls win the game.
The Knicks also looked putrid for most of this game, like they have not improved one iota since the start of the season. Sure, they went on a run because the Bulls stink. But you just canât escape the fact that this just looks like a sloppy, poorly coached team most of the time. Theyâre trying to steal games based on the elite talent of a couple of the best players but theyâre an eyesore to watch and are not improving. Playing everybody this many minutes is only going to exacerbate the problem.
The players will have have no energy if they get to April.
Not trying to escape it. Rather leaning into it. Hoping to get it out of our system before the new year.
EDIT: On the minutes, I totally agree. Thibs is insane and Iâm among the first to call for a longer rotation to get everyone some reps. No argument here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ukzrcdqh34g&pp=ygUWQ2h1bWEgb2tla2Ugb24gZGVmZW5zZQ%3D%3D want defense bring him up
OG was a -20, Bridges a +2
7th best Net-Rating, losing record
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-net-rating-leaders-by-team-this-season
OG was tired at tip-off and shot like 1-9 to start the game. He prolly should have called in sick.
Bridges I would argue might have turned a corner tonight. The highlights may prove me wrong, but his line is about what I expect on a âregularâ night, 20 pts, 6 bounds, 5 assists, 1 steal. And I thought he had some good defense down the stretch against LaVine but I was also well drunk by then đ
Big in my opinion: turnovers (15) and free throws. We shot 18 to Chicagoâs 27. Towns and Brunson combined to make only 7 of 13. Ummmm. That shouldnât happen again..
https://x.com/NBA_NewYork/status/1856905138402652556
Another 3 games in 4 days
How many games can we blow the exact same way? Does any team foul on 3pa in high leverage situations as reliably as we do? I honestly expect us to lose when we’re up 2 with seconds to go, even more than I usually do
The game has passed Thibs by. He’s putting in the coaching equivalent of Phil Jackson’s run as GM.
Worst loss of the season.
https://x.com/NBA_NewYork/status/1856900000271192540
^ meanwhile Josh Hart ..
Maybe the newborn doesnât travel with the team?
https://x.com/NBA_NewYork/status/1856909552194568370?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Clinigan is wrecking the Wolves .
DDV is wrecking the Wolves
Watching Clinigan defend the rim had me wishing for Mitchell Robinson minutes.
DDV – Maybe he shot his load last season..
Lol weâre still 4th in the East somehow.
Iâm still gunna give em 20 games.
That’s because the East stinks
Sixers not healthy
Bucks are a mess
Magic are 3rd with Paolo out and just beat Indy
Thibs will get the grace of a full season , but he doesn’t have a long leash with expectations needed to be met.
Brutal.
Some good signs tonight, felt like the kind of win that would give the team a boost. Long season to get it together.