This is a total gimme, as the Pacers aren’t even TRYING to win, as they are one of the MOST incentivized teams in the NBA right now to lose games, as they need to get a Top 4 pick to add a top player to next year’s squad on TOP of Zubac (they traded Zubac for their pick this year, so long as it is Pick #5-9. If it is #1-4, or 10-30, the Pacers make the pick, and the Clippers get an unprotected 2031 Pacers pick).
So, well, come on, the Pacers are going to try to lose out from here on out.
So this game will be a joke.
But a joke that the Knicks will win, which pleases me!
Feeling great about 58!
216 replies on “2025-26 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Pacers – They’re Not Even TRYING to Win”
It almost feels like preseason in that I’m the most excited about seeing Diawara and Alvarado, and secondarily Kolek and Huk.
Is it me, having lost all ability to judge anything anymore, or is Wally less annoying than he used to be?
Maybe Wally has been marginalized a bit, and was probably told something after the Hali fiasco.
I have kind of felt like Wally has been a bit better this year, although there was a moment where he and Alan were discussing the Bridges shove the other night where we went full Cro- Magnon.
Wally is probably pissed Alan has taken the lead
Btw, Tears for Fears has I hoped made a huge amount of money for letting the NBA butcher that song
Yes Mikal
So good to have Brewn back
I think KAT likes his matchup
Defense, anyone? Or is this exhibition game?
Mike Brown agrees with you, Rough.
Seems like the Pacers read today’s thread and said okay you don’t want us to tank?
I was telling him from the start, Raven! It was so obvious!
Trap game is real
ISM took a gummy apparently
Love that Jose. Awesome. And great block from Mikal
This does feel like an exhibition game.
I think I’m just a little distracted by this: https://jmail.world/
If Alvarado and MCConnell both dive for a loose ball there might be a rift in the space time continuum
KAT’s 3pters lately have no fucking chance in hell of going in.
Knicks tanking for the 4th seed…
KAT needs to screw up his finger like Hart. Worked like a charm for him.
Wish you’d told us what that was ahead of time, ess. I could have done without seeing that open up on my browser. Even after 2 seconds, I felt dirty.
Interesting that you can access that, though.
Who supposedly is guarding Siakam?
Hopefully Pacers sit Siakam for the entire 4th quarter to give the Knicks a chance to win this game.
Man they are hitting absolutely everything
Nobody
Doesn’t seem like the Knicks have a capable defender
“Guarding.” What does this mean? There’s no such a thing tonight!
Doubt we lose this game but it would be nice if we could beat a current bottom feeder wire to wire.
The Pacers really are the Knicks’ kryptonite.
Their center is so bad that even KAT drives by him with no effort! Lol!
They just did vs Washington or the 50 point win vs Brooklyn
This is not defense.
Shamet for president.
Knicks indicating Pacers wont out tank us. No steals, O rebounds or blocks.
No OG, no Mitch, no Deuce…no bueno.
Forget about worst loss of the season this would be the worst loss in franchise history.
We’re shooting 61% and losing by 3
Clarkson enters game.
Clarkson passes to a Pacer.
Z-man, Do you really think we need those to beat this tanking Indiana team? How about some elementary seriousness, defensive effort, and professionalism?
Another example of Knicks playing down to the level of their opponents.
Shamet is the Knick I feel best about this year.
Here i am… for 25 seconds before the break! 😀
Shout?
Well going into the half with the lead is nice, but I don’t think we’re holding them under 100 tonight…
We’ve got a current 86.5 percent chance of winning this, according to ESPN.
I was at that Wizards game. They did close it to 12 points at 44-32, but yeah, we were back up almost 30 a couple of minutes later. Still didn’t seem as easy as it might have been.
That end-of-half play should be burned.
Which is the better song Shout or Everybody Wants to Rule the World?
Shout by many miles. And I’m not saying that I think Shout is any good.
Both are classics but the NBA is using Rule the World
everybody wants to rule the world is some very exceptional theme music…
Ever since seeing Becoming Led Zeppelin I’ve been a bit obsessed with them. My latest fetish is watching “first listen” videos of various folks hearing Dazed and Confused for the first time. In my opinion, while it’s not my favorite Zep song to listen to, it might be the one I think is the most revealing of their sheer talent, individually and collectively. You can see it in the faces of some of the listeners…like holy shit, this was from 1969? This was their first album?
Okay back to the game…
I like both, maybe Everybody wants to rule the world a little more. And Mad world is great too.
Led Zeppelin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tears for Fears
Only 75.8 percent chance now. F Nesmith.
Man, reversing that call is kind of ridiculous.
We will probably win this game in the end, but this game is proof that we aren’t gonna win shit on the playoffs.
Pacers trying to do what we were talking about… get a lead before the 4th, and then blatantly take the best players out of the game! 😀
Of course! Because a regular season game against a tanking team is what the analysts use to predict the playoffs. 😀
Wow, that’s a little extreme dontcha think? Extrapolating anything from this game is a bit of a stretch.
Mikal is playing great d
Hart!!!
Josh Hart, the sharpshooter
For as good as the Knicks have played offensively tonight they’ve missed a shitload of wide ass open 3pters.
Now i would say “Bad Clarkson tonight”, but has Good Clarkson been around, lately?
Obi has been teaching the moon shot 3s to Siakam 😀
This has been the most unprofessional performance by the Knicks since the embarrassment on MLK Day.
Diawara looking more like a 51st pick tonight…
Yeah, Mo has come down to earth. Defense is, uhh, sporadically excellent, otherwise pedestrian.
This guy who got a huge back tattoo of the Mount Rushmore of the Knicks is more committed than I am. Probably on Posting and Toasting.
Wilson Chandler looks good and also like a member of the Wu Tang Clan in a Chappelle show skit
Pacers turning into the kd curry warriors from three. Our defense could def be better but these guys can’t miss!
Hopefully they take McConnell out soon he’s destroying us
Indiana is the team with the worst offensive rating in the NBA. They dropped 94 points on us in three quarters. Do I need to say more?
PS if clarkson is going to brick wide open 3s, what use does he add ??
Knicks deserve to lose this game and be lustily booed off the court.
They have hit 6 more 3s than the Knicks in just 5 more shots. It’s a miracle this is close.
61.0 percent chance of victory = no bueno
Town being unable to hit a 3 or a layup this season isn’t ideal.
Edit: that was before this shot.
Marechal you should be a coach
I’m starting to hate this long 3P from KAT. Who does he think he is? Steph?
He thinks that he’s the best shooting big man in the history of basketball. He’s said as much.
Fucking TJ
MO!!!!
Mo is like the 5’9 guy in your pickup game who takes every shot. Absolutely no conscience
Nah, I’m done with this team as currently constructed.
Jalen – defensively challenged
Mikal – pretty average player who cost us 5 firsts
KAT – waaay too many stupid plays (both ends)
OG – is hurt A LOT
Hart – fine for his salary
Deuce – legit
Shamet – shoulder is a timebomb
The rest – meaningless
That might be the first short midrange shot TJ has missed in his career.
KAT is freaking stupid.
Man, KAT is driving me up a wall.
You could tell at the start of the game that KAT thought he was in for a huge night.
Huff has been good though. KAT has been…… frustrating.
HUK HUK
Huk got Huff’d
I blame this on KAT. He should be leading this unit and can’t help himself elbowing other players.
I suspect the Knicks came into this game already thinking about tomorrow’s game with the 76ers and now have this battle on their hands.
Jose’s corner three was fugly
These guys never miss
Alvarado is pesky but too short to be any kind of defensive stopper
Terrible effort tonight. Tomorrow is a sure loss with this effort
We’re gonna need Brunson hero ball tonight (sadly)
KAT makes too much money to be this inconsistent
At this point holding on to the 4th seed might be difficult.
Worst loss of season incoming.
Have to give the Pacers credit
Wow Mikal. Tough shot
Alvarado is plain bad on defense. He is out of position a lot, and drops back even on one-to-one plays. This is disastrous. I don’t think he will get Kolek’s minutes if he plays like this.
Having Jose and KAT on the same team is not good for staying out of the bonus
Joseeeeeeeee
And then Nembhard tried it thinking it was easy 😉 😀
I hate this Pacers team.
“Alvarado is plain bad on defense”
I think we have to give him some time to get comfortable before concluding anything.
Apparently it is Cyber
Fire Mike Brown.
Our defense without OG Mitch and Deuce lacks some, uhhh, key components
KAT should not be an all star this year. Maybe not making the team would have knocked some sense into him. He just keeps doing same mistakes over and over.
Maybe as Knicks fans we should be in favor of bad teams tanking so we get some extra wins.
Nembhard has had our number since the 2024 playoffs…
Relax, guys, this is 4-D chess. We’re out tanking the Pacers to increase the odds of their pick transferring to the Clippers.
This is fair. That he does not know where to be much of the time is indicative. I hope this it is and nothing else. I hope.
I agree. Some of the voting is reputation. He hasn’t been as good on offense in this system.
Nembhard must have horrible BO or something because no Knick wants to get within 5 feet of him on defense
I don’t like this new world where Brunson misses a lot of FTs
I don’t watch thinking this will be an easy win… Wtf guys?!?!
Brunson guarding Siakam is not likely to end well. 🤣
Jalen does have a particular set of skills though
too much brunson hero ball
I don’t know if we win this challenge but I do know Siakam cleared out with his arm there
Brown has the worst challenges.
Edit: or maybe not?
Uggghhhhhhhhhh
It’s hard to believe Siakam, OG, VanVleet etc.. weren’t any good.
I can’t believe that review decision.
Seems Shamet clearly fouled him
Brunson isn’t winning Clutch Player of the Year this season.
Ugh Brunson.
I miss OG
Good D, better O. Brunson has had so many chances to be clutch, just not happening
One more 3P please
Amazing reverse tank job tonight
Lose by 30 to the pistons, beat the Celtics by 20 lose to the pacers 😑😡
4th best team in the East…
Good hustle from KAT there
Who, the Pacers when they’re trying to win?
What a fucking stupid out of bounds play.
That was a 5 sec count
Good hustle from KAT again
Going to miss a free throw unfortunately
TOWNS
clutch kat
KAT for the rescue
Gotta give KAT props there, money from the line
This is too much pressure for towns … I apologize Karl
KAT certified all star
This has been a really hard game to follow by hitting refresh on the ESPN game cast
Clutchest Knicks made FTs since Allan Houston in Game 6 vs Miami in the 2000 playoffs.
KAT showing up when it counts, love to see it
Thank God Towns made both. I’m not sure I could handle social media tonight and tomorrow if he missed.
Very disappointing to experience this after the Boston performance on Sunday. I hope we win in OT but this is unacceptable no matter what. Blame the coaching staff, blame whoever and whatever, but the fact of the matter is that the team did not come mentally ready for the game. The worst offense in the league dropped 124 points on us and it could have been more. They were getting whatever they wanted most of the time. The jerseys alone won’t win it.
Hubert, are you trapped in 2007? Do we need to send help?
Knicks making it really hard on the Pacers to to tank this game
Not calling a TO to advance was a tank play
Quietest I’ve ever heard the garden. I wanted people to talk somewhat normally! That was downright eerie. Now stomp them.
Rough my dude,
It’s a regular season game in February. Enjoy the unintentionally dramatic game!
Adam Silver is supposed to walk into tthe Pacer’s locker room and penalize them their !st round pick for not calling a TO with .2 left to advance the ball to have a chance at a lob.
Ok now everything just needs to flip right side up
Such bad Knicks offense down the stretch.
Tell me again what team is tanking?
I may have jinxed Shamet
5th best team in the East…
Jesus
KAT giveth and KAT taketh
Cmon KAT
LOL
Didn’t see much on that KAT screen…
Pacers got a discombobulater or something…
What an infuriating game.
Nesmith is a hell of a defender
Embarrassing
And now we have the 76ers on a B2B in Philly.
Not sure I’ve ever hated a Knicks team as much as I currently despise this fucking team.
Some of these players won’t be playing tommorow either
b2b and plans to go on break
I don’t know how many times the Knicks need to play the Pacers until they realize that iso-Brunson is not the way to go.
Ovah.
Mercy
I hope Philly beats the Knicks tomorrow worse than Detroit just did.
Where has Kolek been?
This is over
at least we’ll be well rested for tomorrow
Most disgusting…
I hope the Clippers get their pick. Fuckers.
Tasty, I understand all this, but we are talking about the team with the worst offense and the worst away from home record in the league. I would be ok if we lost to Philly, to this team, to that team, but laying an egg at home against this Indiana squad? A team which does not even want to win? Isn’t that way too much? Too much for a “contending” team?
Truly embarrassing loss. That offensive execution at the end of regulation and OT was horrendous. Mike Brown and Brunson are to blame here.
Knicks love going for 2 when they’re too far behind for it to matter
When tanking is number 1 topic in tbe nba
Knicks lose to a ranking team
Yeah, they rank as the most annoying. Also as the Knicks kryptonite.
Siakam not giving up on the tank
WTF is going on?
Bruuuuuuuunson
this is objectively hilarious
The thing with the 24-25/25-26 Knicks is that they never fail to miss an opportunity to kill the vibes.
Best the favorite Celtics when nobody expected? How about we lose the most excruciating game in franchise history next?
Have the best start to a season in over a decade? How about going 2-9 in embarrassing fashion after?
Recover with a 9-0 run? How about you get destroyed by Detroit and then lose to a team intentionally tanking?
Tie a game with miraculous free throws at the end? How about not scoring in the first 4 minutes of overtime?
It’s like clockwork with them.
8 pts in 19 seconds?
The approach to the game overall was horrendous. It should not have come down to the last plays.
The substitutions are dizzying. Mo and Huk have gone in and out for each other literally five times in the last 6 seconds.
Knicks had no chance in Detroit with the lineup they put out.
I think Indiana is clearly trying to win when they play us, tanking be damned.
No question the Knicks didn’t come out with the focus and determination you’d hope they’d show against an Indiana team that has been their nemesis in recent playoffs. It’s not great. But the season is too damn long and I just can’t expect the team to be locked in every single night. They just need to be playing well in April, May and June.
Still time for Mike Brown to be Don Nelson’ed.
We’ll be the ones laughing when the Pacers have to give their pick to the Clippers bc we tanked this game.
Mike Brown isn’t the reason his best defenders were on the bench tonight .
For a moment i thought we would pull a miracle there in the end
Or is he?
We agree on this. It already showed in the first minutes of the game tonight. I pointed it out early on. I would add that the Knicks didn’t even need to play anywhere close to 100% or even 80% to beat this team. Alas.
Couldn’t watch the game. Did Shamet miss those two free throws on purpose to try to work for a 3 to go to OT? Or did he just miss? I guess it would make sense to miss on purpose since two points wouldn’t have been enough.
In all seriousness, the Knicks without OG, Mitch, and Deuce really aren’t much better than many NBA teams.
We used 4 guys making the league minimum tonight.
The Knicks were thinking about tomorrow and the Pacers were thinking about this one last week. The problem is they are going to be tired tomorrow because of the way this one went down.
Hats off to Siakam, he played like a superstar tonight and we had no answer for him without OG, and Siakam cooks him sometimes too. Might be the most underrated player of this era.
It’s tough to have any of them out but when you are arguably missing your 3 best defenders and the team is not very good defensively to begin with you are likely to have issues.
Are we not going to play Mitch on back to backs in the playoffs? If we do that, we’re done-zo.
They shot 30% from 3 on some very good looks. Shots weren’t falling and Towns needs to rethink his strategy
I like Hubert’s take. This was insanely bad, but, again, winning is BAD for the Pacers, so this is good to fuck them over!
Brunson -31 shots
Next person towns -17
Brunson chucks can win and lose
Wemby on pace for 119 points if he plays 40 minutes tonight. Just sayin’.
all in 7 minutes
Unfortunately he’ll probably not play anywhere close to 40 minutes…….
Fixed it for you. 😉
They shot 30% from 3 on some very good looks. Shots weren’t falling and Brown needs to rethink his strategy
I must say not giving Diawara chances to defend Siakim was dumb . Not saying he would do anything, but give it a shot
Hart on Siakim??? -did Brown not watch Siakim cooked Hart in the playoffs
cook*
Siakam*
I blame donnie’s joy for our dismay…
I’m pretty sure I’d feel the exact same way about this game even if Donnie had never existed.
this was supposed to be one of the few easy ones over like almost a month long…
OG probably has the highest win percentage since he arrived…
oh, I assure you sir, donnie is very most likely exactly almost probably real…
‘Are we not going to play Mitch on back to backs in the playoffs? If we do that, we’re done-zo.’
Dumbest thing you’ve posted in a while.
I have to agree. I get the frustration but that was dumb. They are doing this exactly to protect him for the post season
Mitch plays and gets hurt
Board loses its mind
Good morning, all!
Shaddup. LOL
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