[CBS Sports] – Thu, 07 Nov 2024 18:46:00 GMT
- NBA Power Rankings: Warriors make bid for No. 1 by beating Celtics, Cavs remain unbeaten, Knicks tumble
- NBA Power Rankings: Edwards and Jokic hit early-season struggles while Cavs climb
- NBA trending up and down: What’s wrong with Bucks, Sixers? Can Cavs keep up hot start?
- NBA Power Rankings: Cavaliers soar, Knicks drop and a spin through every teams rotation – The Athletic
- Power Rankings, Week 3: Undefeated Cavs, Thunder keep climbing
[New York Post] – Fri, 08 Nov 2024 03:22:00 GMT
- Knicks Precious Achiuwa remains out as Jericho Sims woes have lingered
- New York Knicks Update Precious Achiuwa’s Injury Status
- Knicks Injury Tracker: Tom Thibodeau updates Precious Achiuwa’s status
- Stefan Bondy: Precious Achiuwa hasn’t been cleared for practice yet so assume he’ll be out tomorrow.
- Knicks try to fill hole inside with Robinson and Achiuwa sidelined
[The New York Times] – Thu, 07 Nov 2024 15:33:56 GMT
- Pros and cons of the Knicks up-and-down start to the NBA season – The Athletic
- Barker: Knicks have looked bad, but it’s still early
- Knicks move up slightly in Week 2 Power Rankings
- Knicks Notes: Getting Karl-Anthony Towns more involved, plus what’s next for the roster
- The Knicks are better than their so-so start and theyll figure it out
[USA TODAY Sportsbook Wire] – Fri, 08 Nov 2024 06:14:00 GMT
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[hoopsrumors.com] – Thu, 07 Nov 2024 16:56:00 GMT
- New York Notes: Sims, Knicks Offense, Ryan, Finney-Smith
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- Jericho Sims News: Minimal impact so far
- New York Knicks’ Backup Centers Receiving Key Opportunities
- Knicks’ Jericho Sims: Minimal impact so far
[New York Post] – Thu, 07 Nov 2024 15:05:00 GMT
The Knicks know theres always someone listening
[Posting and Toasting] – Fri, 08 Nov 2024 11:30:00 GMT
Knicks Bulletin: I cant let that dictate my energy level or my mood
[Sporting News] – Thu, 07 Nov 2024 14:25:56 GMT
- Knicks could trade for $30.3 million Wizards vet to address rebounding issue
- The clock is ticking on ideal Knicks trade target to relieve pressure on KAT
- Knicks Eye Jonas Valanciunas in Trade Move as Robinson Faces Extended Layoff
- Knicks predicted to acquire $41.8 million two-player package from Jazz in trade
- Proposed trade for center would set Knicks back with key bench subtractions
[Heavy.com] – Thu, 07 Nov 2024 16:39:10 GMT
Jalen Brunson Gets Honest After Knicks Loss to Hawks
[Sporting News] – Thu, 07 Nov 2024 15:17:13 GMT
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19 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.11.08)”
Nice to get Bucks on 2nd night of B2B.
Cavs Warriors tonight is a banger. ESPN unfortunately going with Mavs Suns instead.
Might be the year I go with league pass. Will be good to watch other teams for a few months to get the joy I’m missing while this team gels.
Small sample set
We’ve played 7 games
In the last 6
*We handily won 3 (IND, MIA, DET)
*Were a bounce or two away from winning the other 3 (CLE, HOU, ATL)
I’m concerned for sure. And MIL has all the feelings of a trap game.
I think we will be just fine. The level of doom projected here is an overstatement.
I think the gelling thing and “it takes time” thing is a cope. The 2007-08 Celtics started 8-0 and 18-2, with their two losses being a one-pointer and an OT loss to LeBron. I’m sure there are other examples out there.
And it’s worse here because “gelling” is going to pretty much involve merely Thibs tinkering to Thibs-ify things.
They have three purportedly “elite/excellent” wing defenders, KAT is leading the association in DReb%, and Josh Hart is a great rebounder. Tinkering with things to chase rebounding and defense makes zero sense; it should be able to be improved organically.
They only way forward is to go for that organic improvement and ride with this roster. (*) Thibs-ifying things is pointless.
(*) It may not happen. That becomes a different discussion.
Julius Randle at the 5 with Edwards, Donte, Walker-Alexander, and Reid has a 119.4 ORtg and a 94.8 DRtg in 34 minutes.
It’s kinda hard to believe we gave Jericho Sims 2000 mins at center the last few years while refusing to try Julius Randle for a few minutes bc “it just wouldn’t work.”
I don’t think you can look at any one team either way and make some assumption about how long it does or doesn’t take a team to gel.
Hell, Gobert and KAT’s first season together was a disaster and then they went to the WCF. The Beatles started out slow and then went to four straight finals.
Every team is different bc they’re all composed of different players who are people. Maybe it will take time to gel or maybe we’re fucked. Either way it’s way too early to make that call especially when the last two seasons our teams under Thibs have started slow.
I think maybe you’re the one overstating things. Did anyone besides Pagliacci project doom?
I still think we’re a 50 win, second round playoff team. Mitch will fix a lot of problems.
Now if Towns & OG start to miss time, then I can see doom on the horizon. This team is not built to withstand as many injuries as last year.
During the first games we’ve seen glimpses here and there (hence the blocks).
Step 1, KAT defending with his arms raised would be a nice step forward.
Step 2, KAT jumping vertically on defense with his arms raised would be a very significant step forward.
They’re not difficult things to do if you just want to, while defending with you arms lowered at your sides is really a difficult thing to do*.
I hope Thibs and the coaching staff can convince him…
Step 3, scheming defense to be more flexible, require time and a flexible coach.
Or we could just wait for Precious/Mitch…
* And it allows your opponents to hit 27 of 30 shots at the rim against you.
We’re gonna need a Knickerblogger lexicography because from this precinct, dumping the entire asset chest on a 50 win, second round playoff team looks pretty much like the virtual definition of “doom.”
7 games may be too early but at least it’s based on watching the team for 7 games.
You guys declared this team a title contender based on press clippings and betting action.
That was premised on Mikal finding the sweet spot between 2023 and 2024 BKN and being a guy who could create and generate usage at high efficiency, as well as the plus or plus-plus defender he was purported to be.
That player is nowhere to be found, and I see no indication he will ever be found. (*) I’ve already resigned myself to the best-case description of this trade being: “Bad.” Firmly and safely within the Overton window is “one of the worst trades in Knick history, Billy King got Chernobyled for less.”
The Knicks have their own draft pick twice in the next seven years, once in the next six.
(*) And he is, without question, “redundant” with OG.
Is Naz Reid not playing C in that configuration? That seems like a Reid at the 5 lineup.
“We’re gonna need a Knickerblogger lexicography because from this precinct, dumping the entire asset chest on a 50 win, second round playoff team looks pretty much like the virtual definition of “doom.””
I don’t think the word “doom” should apply, but bitter disappointment is certainly in the conversation. The likelihood is that this team is a mostly finished product for the next couple of years. After that, there will be flexibility. Thibs is on the clock, and if the Knicks underperform he will jettisoned. KAT will still have market value and could be swapped out for either picks or good players. Hart will be near the end of his deal. If Mikal underperforms he will at least be signed for a non-max extension. Think about how many times guys like Riley and Cuban have retooled after appearing to have painted themselves into a corner. Cleveland looked like they might lose Spida shit last year and are all of a sudden making noise.
The main thing is that the Bridges and KAT trades are sunk costs and Leon now has to find that balance between making panicky moves and standing pat for too long. For now, it is way to early to make any kind of sweeping judgments about anything. Give it 20 games or so.
I think something is up with Brunson. He seems to be lacking some burst. He gets into the paint and just stops. He tweaked his ankle early on, I wonder if it is affecting him.
Moreover, the team seems vulnerable to speed and length. We are getting beat to the spot on both ends. Hopefully that is more indecision than anything else, and with enough film and reps we can slow the game down.
By way of possibly realizing some salvage value, I was kind of brainstorming the idea of putting the ball in Mikal’s hands more from time to time as a primary initiator (*), then I checked his career assist numbers and … well, no, that’s not really gonna work either.
In his BKN what looks now like adrenaline-filled mirage, he averaged fewer than 3 assists per 36. He basically chucked.
(*) And of course this would be pure tail-chasing anyway, because they already had two guys who would be and were way better in that quasi-role in the now-jettisoned RJ Barrett and Julius Randle.
“If Mikal underperforms he will at least be signed for a non-max extension.”
Isn’t he thinking he’s getting a full max, though? Didn’t he just turn down the two-year max? Serious, not rhetorical, question. I’ve forgotten the details.
In any event, he isn’t remotely worth a max.
Yeah, that’s actually a pretty big lineup compared to the configurations the Knicks would have been rolling out there. Edwards alone is a beast who plays much bigger than he is.
That said, I would have liked to have seen it tried here with Randle, OG, Bridges, DDV and Brunson, and think it would have if the trade didn’t happen.
I’d go back even further to the 2023 playoff team, with Obi swapped out for DDV. You can certainly make a case to swap out RJ for OG (*) in January given Randle crowding out the ball and Brunson needing the ball more, rendering RJ’s skillset kind of redundant — but now that Randle’s gone, that becomes a premise fail.
And then after that doubling down on low usage 3 & D (**) at the cost of five 1s looks positively ridiculous.
KAT for Randle/DDV is easily defensible on the merits, less so as part of a philosophical team build based on what had happened before. They’ve now lost all non-Brunson perimeter offensive creativity. And their depth is shit.
(*) But even then, not for adding IQ to the package going out.
(**) Or, in Mikal’s case, “D.”
In terms of that specific 5-man lineup, even assuming Thibs would have played it, OG and Mikal don’t rebound well enough, or even close to well enough really, for it to have worked.
The curiosity is perfectly understandable, but that’s the cold reality.
When we have Mitch and Precious back and are still playing badly I will get worried. Not worried at all now.
If we had Naz Reid to play center I suspect our team would be 5-2
Julius Randle at the 5 with Edwards, Donte, Walker-Alexander, and Reid has a 119.4 ORtg and a 94.8 DRtg in 34 minutes.
small sample cherry picking double whistle. 99 minutes randle on without gobert, neutral net rating below average defense.
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