Knicks Morning News (2017.11.16)

  • [NYTimes] On Pro Basketball: Remember When the Warriors Were Awful? These Guys Had a Front-Row Seat.
    (Thursday, November 16, 2017 10:00:22 AM)

    Before Golden State rose to the pinnacle of the N.B.A., members of the franchise’s broadcast crew gave themselves pep talks through many wretched seasons.

  • [NYTimes] Knicks 106, Jazz 101: Tim Hardaway Jr. Seals Knicks’ Comeback Win Over Jazz
    (Thursday, November 16, 2017 5:31:31 AM)

    Hardaway hit a 3-pointer with 32.9 seconds left to help the Knicks complete a second-half rally.

  • [NYTimes] With the Liberty for Sale, What’s Next for Isiah Thomas?
    (Thursday, November 16, 2017 5:13:13 AM)

    In his statement announcing his intention to sell the Liberty, James L. Dolan thanked only one person by name: Thomas, who has been team president since 2015.

  • [NYTimes] Sid Catlett, 69, Star of a Classic High School Basketball Game, Dies
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:34:06 PM)

    In 1965 he led his school against the team led by Lew Alcindor, soon to be known as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and ended its 71-game winning streak.

  • [NYTimes] Madison Square Garden Is Seeking to Sell the Liberty
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 7:34:06 PM)

    Madison Square Garden Company, which also owns the Knicks and the Rangers, has owned Liberty since the founding of the W.N.B.A. in 1997.

  • [NYTimes] How Trump Helped Liberate U.C.L.A. ‘Knuckleheads’ From China
    (Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:43:43 AM)

    The American president had appealed to his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping, in the case of the three members of a university basketball team accused of shoplifting.

  • [ESPN] Knicks say Frank Ntilikina has ‘matured fast,’ is a driving force behind club’s success
    (Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:25:03 AM)

    Knicks say Frank Ntilikina has ‘matured fast,’ is a driving force behind club’s success

  • [NY Newsday] Tim Hardaway Jr.’s big fourth quarter sparks Knicks’ comeback win over Jazz
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:55:30 PM)

    Tim Hardaway Jr. spent parts of the game waving his arms for the fans to get up and banging his chest to show he had heart. He definitely showed some Wednesday night.

  • [NY Newsday] Tim Hardaway Jr. is emerging as the Knicks’ second guy
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:35:36 PM)

    This time, there was no one throwing insults at the Knicks. This time, there was no LeBron James stirring the pregame pot. This time, it was just an average NBA night featuring an average opponent that was missing its best player.

  • [NY Newsday] Though ban is over, Joakim Noah remains inactive for Knicks
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:17:31 PM)

    Joakim Noah went through a long workout and then rushed off the court for a team meeting. This could be the $72-million man’s game-night routine for the foreseeable future.

  • [SNY Knicks] GEICO SportsNite: Knicks discuss win over Utah
    (Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:57:40 AM)

  • [SNY Knicks] Hardaway Jr. rallies Knicks past Jazz, 106-101
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:35:06 PM)

    Tim Hardaway Jr. scored 26 points and Kristaps Porzingis added 22 and eight rebounds as the Knicks erased a fourth-quarter deficit en route a 106-101 win over the Jazz on Wednesday at Madison Square Garden.

  • [SNY Knicks] Whose departure helped Knicks more, Melo or Jackson?
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:54:06 PM)

  • [SNY Knicks] Tonight’s game: Knicks vs. Jazz, 7:30 p.m.
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:15:19 PM)

    The Knicks host the Jazz Wednesday night at 7:30 p.m. looking for their eighth win in 11 games following an 0-3 start.

  • [SNY Knicks] Daily News Live: Knicks try to bounce back vs. Jazz
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:41:06 PM)

  • [SNY Knicks] Porzingis: Knicks confidence in offense growing
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:20:58 PM)

    The Knicks have a growing sense of confidence in coach Jeff Hornacek’s offense this season, Kristaps Porzingis told ESPN Radio’s “The Michael Kay Show” on Tuesday.

  • [SNY Knicks] Enes Kanter has been vital for Knicks on and off the court
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:15:42 PM)

    It has not taken very long for Enes Kanter to become one of the new fan favorites here in New York.

  • [SNY Knicks] Tim Hardaway, Jr. slowly living up to his contract
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:59:23 AM)

    After a rough start to the season, Knicks SG Tim Hardaway Jr. has been living up to his lucrative contract he signed this offseason.

  • [NYPost] Did Courtney Lee get hurt after celebrating Knicks’ winning shot?
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:54:12 PM)

    The Knicks look like they have survived a Courtney Lee scare. After Tim Hardaway Jr.’s game-sealing 3-pointer with 32 seconds left, Lee jumped on his back and soon after started limping. Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek said Lee “tweaked’’ his hamstring and wasn’t sure of his status. Nevertheless, Lee said later his left hamstring was cramping…

  • [NYPost] Knicks’ execs trying to make nice with Porzingis’ brother/agent
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:42:05 PM)

    Knicks management is making a huge effort to get on the good side of Janis Porzingis, the agent/brother of Kristaps. Before the Knicks’ 106-101 victory over the Jazz Wednesday night, team president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry spoke amiably with Janis on the sidelines for nearly 30 minutes during warm-ups. Before the Cavaliers…

  • [NYPost] Frank Ntilikina shows he’s no rookie on defense
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:19:43 PM)

    The Knicks had just gone up three points, 96-93, and the Jazz who were raining 3s all game seemed one shot away from a tie. A pass was launched toward the right corner with 2:45 left. The ball never found its mark, ending up in the real expensive seats instead. Frank Ntilikina’s arms and hands…

  • [NYPost] Donovan Mitchell’s MSG debut ‘a dream come true’
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:40:37 PM)

    Donovan Mitchell, the Jazz rookie guard who came to Utah from Westchester by way of Louisville, did something Wednesday he always wanted to do. He walked on the floor level at Madison Square Garden. For one half, the Knicks wished he hadn’t. “I was so nervous,” Mitchell said after he scored 19 points — but…

  • [NYPost] Knicks making basketball matter again in NYC
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:00:36 PM)

    The people rose and they roared and they were in no hurry to rush to the exits, because these are the nights when Madison Square Garden really can feel like the city’s aorta. These are the fourth-quarter nights when the Knicks remind you why pro basketball is still the core of the city’s sporting soul….

  • [NYPost] Hardaway’s and Porzingis’ late heroics propel Knicks past Jazz
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:14:34 PM)

    Tim Hardaway Jr. is fast becoming the Knicks’ reliable second option to Kristaps Porzingis, and Wednesday he was the first. For the third time in eight days at the Garden, the Knicks rallied from a double-digit second-half deficit to squeak out victory as Hardaway grabbed the hero’s role. The $71 million man grabbed a loose-ball…

  • [NYPost] Joakim Noah sits again and Knicks’ dilemma deepens
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:35:22 PM)

    Joakim Noah has gone from being banished by the NBA for taking a banned supplement to being banished by his own team. For the second straight game since returning from his 20-game drug suspension dating to last season, the $72 million man was inactive Wednesday and Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek doesn’t foresee an immediate change….

  • [NYDN] Knicks overcome double-digit deficit to beat Jazz, 106-101
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:06:51 PM)

    The Knicks overcame a tough loss to the Cavs with an impressive comeback win over the Jazz.

  • [NYDN] Knicks center Joakim Noah inactive for second straight game
    (Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:39:40 PM)

    Being a defensive captain from behind the bench pays well these days in the NBA.

  • 72 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2017.11.16)”

    I just hope KP doesn’t turn into ISO-corn before we can pair him with a quality PG. Last night it looked like a bad nightmare made by Melo-like isolation and hurried shots like last two years.

    Also his defense on the perimeter is truly awful, matador D at its worst.

    Compared to expectations Jack has actually performed somewhat admirably, but I do think getting another point guard who won’t shit the bed out there is important. I’d call up Burke and see what he can do ASAP. Whenever I look at his numbers (both college and NBA) I’m left with the impression that teams gave up on him just a tad too quickly.

    Begley:

    With Frank Ntilikina off the court, Knicks had given up 108.7 points per 100 possessions, which would rank 29th in the NBA. With Ntilikina on the floor, Knicks gave up 102.4 points/100 possessions, which would be eighth-best in the league. “That’s what we want to become.”

    This board has been way too harsh on Hardaway. He’s playing a very controlled game. He doesn’t seem to me like he’s ball hogging at all. His assists, rebounds and defense have all been better than expected.

    Way too much hyperbole around here about KP turning into Melo also. Guy had a couple bad games after playing like an MVP. He’s adjusting to double teams. Seen some better passes lately from him on occasion as well.

    Some patience around here would do people good.

    Thanks.

    Man what a game from Embiid last night. 46 points, 15 rebounds, 7 assists, 7 blocks. It is really an amazing time in the NBA in terms of big men — could be another era like Ewing, Shaq, Olajuwon, David Robinson, Mourning.

    I missed the game last night so only watched highlights and looked at box scores — but it seems in the 4th when we really made our run, we had zero 2-big lineups — 6 minutes each for KP and KOQ, McDermott and Ntilikina played the entire 4th, and Lance/Lee/THJ split the other 24 minutes amongst them. Perhaps not coincidentally, we only gave up 6 3 point attempts (until the throwaway one with a couple seconds left when the game was already decided) in the entire 4th quarter, as opposed to 29 3 point attempts in the other 3 periods. Surprisingly, despite KP only getting 1 rebound in the 4th quarter and McDermott playing the 4 for the entire quarter, Utah has zero offensive rebounds in the 4th. Our boy Ntilikina had 4 rebounds in the quarter on his own, and a bunch of other players chipped in 2-3 rebounds each.

    Now compare that with the 4th quarter against Cleveland, in which 3 bigs played a total of 19 minutes — Cleveland got up 17 3 point attempts. (They also got 7 offensive rebounds to our 4 TOTAL defensive rebounds in the 4th — not good). Basically we just folded like chairs in the 4th, but giving 17 3 point attempts in a single quarter is completely ridiculous.

    seems to me Hornacek learned something in that 4th quarter vs CLE and it made a big difference last night. I’ve been really impressed with Hornacek. We have the #5 offense not counting garbage time per cleaningtheglass.com, all while managing to get really meaningful minutes for the youngest player in the NBA (who actually gets minutes).

    Also props to THJ who is doing his best to make that contract look pretty palatable. Still an overpay based on the market, but it’s fine. Once his 3P% regresses up to his usual, he’ll look pretty good.

    Begley:

    With Frank Ntilikina off the court, Knicks had given up 108.7 points per 100 possessions, which would rank 29th in the NBA. With Ntilikina on the floor, Knicks gave up 102.4 points/100 possessions, which would be eighth-best in the league. “That’s what we want to become.”

    But he can’t truly be a ruff rhydah if he can’t get pointz inefficiently…..

    Everyone thinks the Warriors are good because they score more POINTZZZZ than their opponents… just kidding. 🙂

    Also props to THJ who is doing his best to make that contract look pretty palatable. Still an overpay based on the market, but it’s fine. Once his 3P% regresses up to his usual, he’ll look pretty good.

    I haven’t watched THJ closely over his career but it would seem like he’s taking more bad shots than ever before, rather just not connecting on shots he used to make.

    THJ’s shot distribution is pretty good – taking 78% of his shots from 3 or at the rim. He’s shooting very poorly on “open” 3 pointers (27.9% on 4.1 attempts per game), which seems pretty low for a guy who’s a career 36% 3 point shooter. He’s also shooting well below his career averages at the rim (high 50s versus mid 60s).

    The major issue with Tim is that he’s just not that great a shooter. If he were an above average 3 point shooter consistently (like 38+%) he would be much better. His form looks ok but he has some really bad misses, like off left, right, short, long by a fair distance. That does feel like something he can improve on, if even by a little. A few percent difference over a whole year’s worth of high-volume 3 point attempts would be pretty meaningful.

    You guys are definitely too hard on Tim Hardaway Jr. and it’s probably because most of you are old enough to hate his father. I’d be extremely hard on Paul Pierce Jr if we drafted him, too. He finally got his WS/48 over .100 last night and it will be interesting to see what he does against Toronto. His shooting numbers this season are below what he did last year so if those come up and the rest of his rebounding/passing/defense remains the same, then we have a really good basketball player and a guy who might deserve an All-Star selection. This has been a good week for Timmy.

    Tim has thrown up some lines this year that nobody would have dreamed possible for him 2 years ago. Since that atrocious 2 game start he’s been very solid.

    @9

    That’s a very good point. For all the pain I feel when he takes stupid shots, it is a very good thing that he mostly shoots 3s and at the rim. If you’re going to take quick shots in not ideal situations, do it where it is the most rewarding.
    It’s just annoying sometimes because he’s been very dynamic going to the rim, even making some passes I didn’t expect from him. I wish he would be more aggressive and keep driving, instead of those heat check 3s he throws up sometimes.

    He was the main catalyst for the victory last game, he does play with a lot of energy and truly seems to care. After Melo’s lethargic end on NY, I’m super fine with it.

    And cut Porzingis some slack, please. He’s also only 22 and still adjusting physically and mentally to the role of top scorer in a team that, although playing well, still has a lot of holes and spots of subpar performance. He’ll be fine.

    Interesting piece by Eric Pincus at Bleacher Report about the Lakers giving Deng an extension that is mostly non guaranteed but adds on years, making the stretch more palatable.

    I wonder whether that would work for Noah also?

    Short story = extend Deng for 3 additional years but have that money non guaranteed. So he would have 5 more years left on his contract and so the remaining guaranteed $ on the contract would be spread out over 11 years rather than 5. Very clever. To avoid being shot down by the NBA as circumvention of the cap, they could guarantee some small amount of the extra $.

    I don’t see why the Knicks couldn’t do that to Noah. Give him a 3 year extension at $18MM per year but have all but $6MM or whatever non guaranteed, so he would have ~$42MM guaranteed over 5 years. Stretch waive, then pay $42MM over 11 years.

    “You guys are definitely too hard on Tim Hardaway Jr. ”
    After a horrendous start, over the last 10 games, Hardaway has averaged 21.0 points, 5.4 rebounds, 3.7 assists, 1.5 steals and only 1.7 turnovers, with a TS% of .586, and he’s played decent defense. If he were to do that for a full year, he would get $20 million a year if he were a free agent. I agree — he is streaky, he makes some dumb decisions and takes some bad shots, but some of the criticism of him here is just not warranted. And I say this despite the fact that I am old enough to harbor hatred towards his father…

    And cut Porzingis some slack, please.

    Of course! I’m just extremely worried we squander his talents.

    I just don’t see the Hardaway contract as being that bad. I mean maybe we could have gotten him for 60 million instead of 70 but you have to overpay to get restricted free agents. There are not a lot of cheap starting caliber SGs in the league who are 25 and on the upswing. Comparing his contract to Noah’s is laughable.

    I get not wanting to overpay for free agents but I also think you’d be hard pressed to find a team in the league that didn’t have at least a few contracts that were overpays. My thing is this. Is the player on the court productive. And Hardaway is definitely productive and could get better. Remember he along with the other new players and Horns are all still learning how to play together. We should be very encouraged that we have these good results so early. Imagine this group with 100 games under their belt.

    This next stretch is gonna be a real test for us.

    @16

    I’m definitely on your side here, it’s a constant worry for me too. How to build a team to maximize his talent.

    The Timmy thing is more based on the fact that it seemed, at the time, that it was clear we could have got him for less. After the slow start he has been producing quite well.

    Agree, Timmy has played better than expected. If he keeps his production at or near current levels his contract won’t seem quite as awful. His voice does sound like he’s about 14 years old when interviewed.

    8-6 is a better start than I had anticipated. They really did get some useful players for Melo, and seem to be playing with much more energy and much better team work. It’s really refreshing after the dysfunctional play we’ve been watching for the last 4-5 years. Last night was ugly but they pulled it out anyway, a good sign.

    Kanter has overall played very well. His inside scoring, rebounding, and intensity have been a huge boost to this team. I am warming up to the idea of keeping him, even with his defensive deficiencies.

    Hornacek looks a lot better now that Melo and Rose are gone and he the players have bought into a more team oriented approach.

    i’ve been happily surprised by thjr’s all around game, I especially like his intensity and that he usually takes shots within the flow of the offense except for the occasional ‘heat check’ which reminds me of the days when his father would kill us and i hate that.

    otherwise the kid is as good as advertised and his contract is starting to look like good value although some on this board wont admit it.

    Just think where we’d be with, say, Darren Collison as our starting PG. We’re 8-6 with a totally washed up guy (steady as he is) as our primary ball handler.

    I definitely thought we way overpaid on THJ but I can at least say he’s trying to earn that check. The slow start at the beginning definitely put some bias into some of our heads about him I’m sure. I feel like we lost that game last night even though we won. They were very sluggish out there until that end burst to get the victory. That game says more about Utah then it did us.

    I wonder how long it will be before Frank starts. I mean, these comeback wins with Frank playing the 4th are becoming a trend. Its cool and all but I’d rather we start out ahead. Frank gives us better defense and seems to be simpatico with KP and Hardaway. Those three are gonna be the core guys going forward anyways. Why not start Frank? I guess maybe Horns just wants to make sure and maybe is waiting for him to build a bit more confidence. But I think he’s ready to take his licks.

    two more weeks before he starts? January? I’d be curious to hear what people think will happen.

    TH2 is looking like a 20, 5, and 5 guy recently. When James Harden, Steph Curry, John Wall, and Russell Westbrook are making $35-40M a season, and Bradley Beal at around $25M a year giving TH2 $17M a year going to look pretty good if we get 20 points on good efficiency, 5 boards, 4 assists, and good team defense from Hardaway Jr.

    Frank is 19 years old and has only played a few NBA games to date. There is no rush for him to start, bringing him along slowly is the smart move imo. He’s been improving as he gets more playing time and more comfortable with his teammates and pace of the NBA. So far so good.

    As soon as you become the regular starter other teams start planning who and how to defend you and generally make your time on court harder. Its fine with me if Ntilikina gets more experience before starting.

    Something like that may be happening to KP too. He was always a starter, but now his hot start and lack of Melo and Rose means teams are putting their best defender on him and also defending him more physically. He has to adjust to that.

    IMHO: Let Frank come off the bench against 2nd units. He can still play the bulk of the minutes in the 4th when he has more energy than opposing starters. Both of these scenarios will be good for his productivity and confidence.

    Yeah, it’s unfortunate that we don’t have a better starting PG option than Jack, but even if it leads to slow starts, it’s better for both Frank’s development and the team’s overall play if he’s a reserve for now.

    I wouldn’t say Timmy has been playing good team defense, but he’s been better than he was during his first stint with the Knicks (when he had to be one of the worst defenders in the NBA) and that’s fine if he’s rebounding, passing and making shots.

    The NBA isn’t like the NFL in that if you play your rookie QB behind a terrible line, you could “affect his confidence” (aka subject him to countless minor brain injuries). If he gets rattled by turnovers or being blocked at the rim or blowing defensive assignments, he doesn’t belong in the league. Let him play — none of our veteran guards are losing trade value by having low per-game numbers, and none of them should be re-signed.

    Last night’s game was huge from the perspective that it provided a good litmus test for whether the team had the resolve to bounce back from a frustrating collapse on Monday. I am very proud of how they made adjustments. fought back, and found a way to win a game they played poorly during the first half.

    Trey Burke has put up some good numbers in Westchester, but he only has a TS% of .570 in G-League play despite hitting on 45.5% of 3s in a very small sample. I’ve watched some of his individual game HIGHLIGHTS and come away unimpressed. The quality of shots that he is chucking up (step-backs, contested floaters) makes it pretty clear to me why he hasn’t been able to score well in the NBA. He’s a good guy to have on your G-League roster as there is some talent there, but his “any shot is a good shot” mentality is not the answer for an NBA team at this point.

    Interesting piece by Eric Pincus at Bleacher Report about the Lakers giving Deng an extension that is mostly non guaranteed but adds on years, making the stretch more palatable.

    I wonder whether that would work for Noah also?

    Short story = extend Deng for 3 additional years but have that money non guaranteed. So he would have 5 more years left on his contract and so the remaining guaranteed $ on the contract would be spread out over 11 years rather than 5. Very clever. To avoid being shot down by the NBA as circumvention of the cap, they could guarantee some small amount of the extra $.

    I don’t see why the Knicks couldn’t do that to Noah. Give him a 3 year extension at $18MM per year but have all but $6MM or whatever non guaranteed, so he would have ~$42MM guaranteed over 5 years. Stretch waive, then pay $42MM over 11 years.

    We should do this RIGHT NOW before the NBA takes this away. It’s a clear loophole that the Lakers figured out. Do it before it gets closed.

    joel embiid is insane…he moves way smoother than any human being at that size should…simmons, 6’10” and maybe still growing…giannis…our own kp…holy crap – it’s like evolution in hyperdrive right before our very eyes…

    interesting to finally know the truth of the injury report from the last few weeks…Kuz is gone and noah can’t get out on the court…it seems as though that is also the case for our favorite mop top – mister baker…

    so, i wondered about this earlier – how long before frank starts…we’re 14 games in to the season now…does it happen by game 20 or game 25…i can’t imagine by that dec 12th game against the lakers on espn – that frank isn’t starting…that would be the 27th game of the year for the knicks…

    not sure how either frank or kp will be holding up come march 2nd…but, frank seems about ready to take over that number one spot now…

    We should do this RIGHT NOW before the NBA takes this away. It’s a clear loophole that the Lakers figured out. Do it before it gets closed.

    I’m doubtful that the NBA even allows the Lakers to do it. Remember, this is just a journalist’s take on it and not something the Lakers have actually done.

    Carmelo Anthony says OKC fans just appreciate players more

    I think that there’s something to that. at least in the sense that they love their players more unconditionally. You see the same thing in other smaller markets, like St. Louis, where every player who gets traded to the Cardinals is shocked by just how much unabashed love the fans give them. I think the markets starved for sports do end up loving their players more unconditionally.

    That doesn’t mean that they are better fans by any stretch of the imagination, but I can see how it would be quite a buzz for a player to play in front of fans like that.

    The best thing about Embiid’s ridiculous line last night was only 2 turnovers. If Embiid and Simmons stay healthy that team is going to be really good in the next year or two. Simmons is like Lebron without a jump shot.

    @41

    I think it was Bill Simmons who used to call Blazers fans “soccer moms”, because they would defend their players no matter what and go after everyone who dared to point anything negative against the guys they liked. It is definitely a thing. It is also Melo going for a LeBron type swipe against the Knicks fans, but that’s a really weak one considering there’s quite a lot of Knicks fans to this day that support him unconditionally.

    Even if what Melo said was completely true and not a stupid generalization why publically diss NY fans like that? Dude is a fucking merc. He loves whoever pays his salary at the moment the most.

    @42

    The scary thing about the Sixers is that they could also free up about 20 million of space for the next free agency. I think that would mean not re-signing Redick, who has been an important player, but they still have some space to operate before Simmons is due to a big deal.

    why publically diss NY fans like that?

    The quote “Carmelo Anthony says OKC fans just appreciate players more” is not even in the interview. Its grasping at straws and taken out of context to rile people up. aka click bait

    Im actually not back, just wanted to share the viewpoint of someone who actually clicked the link. I just saw something about this and its actually pretty stupid.

    Typical Melo. We’ll see how much the fans appreciate him in OKC if they underperform. Then he’ll talk about how he was unfairly treated.

    I think the reason there is wide range of opinions on Hardaway is the volatility of his performances and decision making. If you focus on the big shots and the nights he was a positive difference maker you like him. If you focus on the bad shots, bad TOs, and nights he shot the team out of the game you don’t.

    Some day, I am going to calculate the standard deviation of performance for each player from game to game. I think something like that would be enlightening. I suspect that Hardaway would rate as more volatile than the average player and a guy like Courtney Lee would be more stable. So depending on what you are attracted to as fan and what the team actually needs opinions would vary.

    Im actually not back, just wanted to share the viewpoint of someone who actually clicked the link. I just saw something about this and its actually pretty stupid.

    LOLLOLOLOLOLOL.

    “I’m not back, I just posted twice after coming to this site and reading its posts.”

    Alright, I’m bored so I clicked the link and read the Melo article. It includes a Q&A with him, and here is a quote from it:

    Let’s transition into some basketball talk. Obviously you’re in Oklahoma City so tell me what the dynamic has been like between you and Thunder fans?

    It’s just a greater level of appreciation here from an athletes’ standpoint, from a basketball standpoint.

    Embiid’s performance was great, but thee’s no logical explanation for why Walton kept single covering him with fucking Randle. That matchup is never going to work out in the Lakers’ favor.

    When you’re a player for a small market team that’s what you saw about the fans. When you play for the Knicks you talk about how msg is the Mecca and the fans have such a knowledge of basketball. Don’t waste your time caring about it imho

    I’m with ER on this one- there’s really nothing there. The actual comment about as innocuous as you can get (and almost certainly true) and imbedded in an article about his charity work for crying out loud. It’s fine to dislike Melo but come on…

    Managed to watch the reply last night. Weird game, but happy to get the win regardless. It’s refreshing to have a team that fights through games and shows a bit of ticker. Have to give credit to Hornacek as well. His 4th quarter rotations have been solid, and he has been pretty fearless with who he puts out there (e.g. benching Kanter for the 4th).

    Credit to Utah though. Their Defence in the 1st half was really solid, and it was good to see we actually made an adjustment in the 2nd.

    As for Timmy, he is a bit of a mixed bag at the moment. It kind of felt over the first few games he was pushing to show he was worth the money he is being paid. He seems to have settled down and is playing withing the schemes. Would like to see him drive more though. I don’t remember him being that explosive when he was last with us, but he looks so much more dangerous when he is driving to the basket or getting that kick out.

    Also, I think we have been spoilt by KP’s play so far this season. He definitely had a down night but still managed 22 on 8/19 with 8 boards and 2 blocks. Aside from the so-so shooting, if that is going to be a bad night for him, then I am not too worried.

    I’m so impressed that Carmelo has ended up with the exact same eFG% that he had last year, only he’s playing with the reigning MVP and a “superstar” at SF. The synergy!

    Also, I think we have been spoilt by KP’s play so far this season. He definitely had a down night but still managed 22 on 8/19 with 8 boards and 2 blocks. Aside from the so-so shooting, if that is going to be a bad night for him, then I am not too worried.

    .508 TS% for the night, including the possessions that led to FTs. Definitely not a good night for him, but agreed that if that were his “floor,” we’d in good shape. Unfortunately, it’s not his floor. He’s certainly shown improvement on the whole, but he simply can’t shoot .400 TS% on 30+ USG% and be the MVP on a contender. Trending upward, though, I suppose.

    While I’m here in Firenze, I was wondering what Jowles’ take on the Duomo or Michaelangelo’s David was…are they overrated?

    While I’m here in Firenze, I was wondering what Jowles’ take on the Duomo or Michaelangelo’s David was…are they overrated?

    I prefer a Pieta

    The Knicks are +7.6 with KP on the court YTD and -5.0 with Kanter. Tiny sample, but odd disparity for two starters. The lineup I’d like to see more of is Frank/TH/McD/KP/KOQ. Only 16-17 minutes in total YTD. Similarly you can swap Lee for McD, only ~6 min YTD for that one. I’d also like to see that lineup with Noah swapped for KOQ if Noah still has a pulse.

    Arbitrary stat time:

    Players under 20 with 50 points / 50 assists / 24 steals in their team’s first 12 games (via @bball_ref):

    LeBron James, 2004
    Chris Paul, 2005
    John Wall, 2010
    Frank Ntilikina, 2016

    I wanted us to get OG Anunoby. Toronto was so smart to scoop him up. Imagining him with Frank out there on the floor is a defensive dream.

    Trade Toronto Willy and a first round pick for Anunoby! I want him! He will complete our starting team as I envisioned.

    Kanter
    Porzingis
    Anunoby
    Hardaway
    Ntilikina

    I’d like to note that Kobe Bryant played the following in his first 2 seasons, respectuvely:
    71 and 76 games
    16 and 26 minutes
    Coming off the bench.
    And his game was far more developed than Frank’s.
    I agree 100% with Horn’s usage of Frank. Let him come off the bench, let him watch how the opposition is moving, limit his minutes but play him during crunch time.

    I love Italy, but overcrowded(by tourists) places really take all of the joy out. The last time I was in Florence it was on return home from Sardinia vacation in mid september….there were so many people there that we decided to eat some pasta drink a glass of red and skip the palcio/duomo/ufizzi and drive home(350 miles).
    IMHO there are maybe only 3 towns/cities out of 1000 in Italy that are not worth a visit. Have jet to go south and Sicily though. And the rural/not dense populated areas are also beautiful. But tourists man….

    So, Z-man, how crowded is it now in mid november in these “high volume and high efficiency” places.

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