Knicks Morning News (2016.05.17)

  • [New York Times] Thunder 108, Warriors 102 | Oklahoma City leads series, 1-0: Oklahoma City Thunder Surprise Golden State Warriors in Game 1 Win (Tue, 17 May 2016 04:45:36 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook leads a second-half flurry, scoring 24 of his 27 points after halftime, and Oklahoma City is unexpectedly ahead in the Western Conference finals.

  • [New York Times] Plenty of Star Power Remains at Point Guard in NBA Playoffs (Tue, 17 May 2016 06:12:33 GMT)

    LeBron James is fond of saying that today’s NBA is driven by point guards.

  • [New York Times] Dominant Westbrook Steals Curry’s Thunder (Tue, 17 May 2016 06:42:28 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook’s refusal to bow down to league darling Stephen Curry helped Oklahoma City to stand tall and send a strong opening message in their Western Conference finals clash.

  • [New York Times] Durant, Westbrook Power Thunder Past Warriors 108-102 (Tue, 17 May 2016 04:33:44 GMT)

    Outside his locker room, first-year Oklahoma City coach Billy Donovan received a round of handshakes and hugs for pulling off something no other team has this postseason.

  • [New York Times] Stotts Agrees Contract Extension With Trail Blazers: Reports (Tue, 17 May 2016 04:51:50 GMT)

    Coach Terry Stotts has agreed with the Portland Trail Blazers on a contract extension, according to multiple reports on Monday.

  • [New York Times] Thunder Steal Game 1 From Warriors (Tue, 17 May 2016 04:39:29 GMT)

    Oklahoma center Steven Adams converted an errant pass by team mate Russell Westbrook into two critical free throws with 1:01 left on Monday to short-circuit a Golden State rally and help the Thunder to a 108-102 Game 1 victory in the Western Conference finals.

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Tuesday's Knicks Links: No pick in the lottery (Tue, 17 May 2016 04:44:03 EST)

    Tuesday's Knicks Links: No pick in the lottery

  • 44 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2016.05.17)”

    I love me some Steph Curry but maybe just maybe all his pub is getting to him in that he seems to be trying to make the flashy play when not at all necessary. Soooooo careless with the ball last night. Behind the back passes for no reason. Terrible passes into traffic. 7 turnovers.

    Hard for me to see exactly what OKC was doing that really shut down the Splash Brothers in the second half, but GS only scored 42 points after halftime. I did notice they were really bumping Curry any time he made cuts, and you could tell that on offense Westbrook was trying to take it at Steph as much as he could in that 3rd quarter.

    Boy….Russ really bailed KD out last night. KD played like a dog in the second half. The Warriors were also ice cold from 3 to end the game

    I thought both Curry and Draymond were bad for their standards last night. Idk it also seemed like when OKC stepped up their intensity and effort in the 2nd half, GSW kinda kept theirs at the same level. There was an air of nonchalance about their performance last night and let’s be real here, they didn’t exactly crush PDX even when Curry came back in dominant fashion.

    Maybe OKC is just peaking at the right time? Still very unlikely, but it would be pretty hilarious if this OKC team that was everybody’s favorite whipping boy, a group I was a part of, for their shortcomings all the way through Game 1 against the Spurs manages to beat two of the greatest regular season teams of all time.

    I thought both Curry and Draymond were bad for their standards last night. Idk it also seemed like when OKC stepped up their intensity and effort in the 2nd half, GSW kinda kept theirs at the same level. There was an air of nonchalance about their performance last night and let’s be real here, they didn’t exactly crush PDX even when Curry came back in dominant fashion.

    That’s totally the word I was looking for when describing Curry’s performance last night — nonchalant. Flipping the ball around like he was playing a pickup game. Just weird.

    Will be interesting to see what Kerr does in response. Figure there will be a ton of backdoor stuff to whoever Russ is guarding. Dude was jumping passing lanes all night.

    re: the PDX-GS series — GS’s defense was really bad that series. Portland has great guards and can definitely score, but in 4 out of the 5 games, Portland’s offense was really good – like ORtg 108-127 (using B-R’s method).

    seems like this series might come down to whether or not OKC can limit live ball turnovers. When they stopped throwing the ball all over the place, they pretty much dominated the half court.

    seems like this series might come down to whether or not OKC can limit live ball turnovers. When they stopped throwing the ball all over the place, they pretty much dominated the half court.

    Great point here

    seems like this series might come down to whether or not OKC can limit live ball turnovers. When they stopped throwing the ball all over the place, they pretty much dominated the half court.

    Great point Frank and this was in a game where arguably the best isolation scorer in the league shot like total crap. If OKC can limit turnovers and pound GSW on the glass like they did in the 2nd half, they’ve got a serious chance to pull the upset. When you have 2 of the 3 best players in a series you’re always going to have a puncher’s chance.

    Funny enough, I think OKC’s isolation heavy style and dominant offensive rebounding is basically the same method that Cleveland used to slow down and make the Finals a competitive series last year. Thing is OKC is an even better offensive rebounding team and has 2 superstars playing instead of 1. Could be that if there is some method to combat GSW, that’s the one and we may have underestimated OKC’s odds in the series.

    Curry looks unhappy. I’ thinking of his comment re what Lebron said. His reply was “I got good at ignoring people.” Maybe he’s detached from some of his teammates too?

    One of Jordan’s great attributes was his ability to be the unquestionable star and at the same time bring all his supporting cast to accept that and give everything they have. Is the 2 time MVP capable of doing that?

    #another_stat_based_comment_for_your_pleasure

    Funny enough, I think OKC’s isolation heavy style and dominant offensive rebounding is basically the same method that Cleveland used to slow down and make the Finals a competitive series last year. Thing is OKC is an even better offensive rebounding team and has 2 superstars playing instead of 1. Could be that if there is some method to combat GSW, that’s the one and we may have underestimated OKC’s odds in the series.

    fivethirtyeight wrote a piece before game 1 about how OKC’s 2-big lineup was one of the few that did not get absolutely destroyed by the death lineup during the season. small sample size and all but you can see how it might work.

    btw – Klay Thompson is just awesome. If it wasn’t for Curry, he would be getting so much more publicity. Almost as good a shooter, pretty damn good off the dribble on his own, and a far superior defender.

    Westbrook made Curry play defense and Steven Adams was outstanding, especially when he had that big wad of cotton in his nose. OKC can actually play much better when KD comes around.

    Roland Lazenby keeps insisting that Phil is conducting these other interviews as a dog-and-pony show to appease Melo and/or the fans before he goes and hires Rambis anyway. Once you’ve got your pundit narrative, I guess you have to stick to it, but that would in some ways be even more depressing than if he’d just hired Rambis without talking to other candidates.

    I love me some Steph Curry but maybe just maybe all his pub is getting to him in that he seems to be trying to make the flashy play when not at all necessary. Soooooo careless with the ball last night. Behind the back passes for no reason. Terrible passes into traffic. 7 turnovers.

    He’s always been this way. I watched more Warriors games than Knicks games this year — a lot more — and he does this in virtually every game. Sometimes he’s got 2 turnovers, sometimes 7.

    There are three ways to beat the Warriors:

    1) they miss shots they usually make
    2) Curry and/or Draymond literally give the ball to the opponent
    3) Mo Speights plays more than 10 minutes

    Roland Lazenby keeps insisting that Phil is conducting these other interviews as a dog-and-pony show to appease Melo and/or the fans before he goes and hires Rambis anyway. Once you’ve got your pundit narrative, I guess you have to stick to it, but that would in some ways be even more depressing than if he’d just hired Rambis without talking to other candidates.

    He’s got to be odder than even Isola and Berman. At least they’re actual beat reporters. This guy is just a voice in the wilderness.

    He’s always been this way. I watched more Warriors games than Knicks games this year — a lot more — and he does this in virtually every game. Sometimes he’s got 2 turnovers, sometimes 7.

    Agreed. Those things stand out because he wasn’t great in other areas last night and because a couple more of them than usual didn’t come off but that’s how the guy plays and it has made him one of the best offensive players in history. I’d be much more worried that he just isn’t healthy right now. He really didn’t look quick at all last night and had a hard time getting separation. It was really notable to me how many possessions down the stretch last night he didn’t even get a touch. That’s not normal.

    He’s got to be odder than even Isola and Berman. At least they’re actual beat reporters. This guy is just a voice in the wilderness.

    But he wrote a book!

    I thought Curry looked fatigued. Maybe the missed time hurt his conditioning a little bit. Also going up against Russ who is much bigger and stronger and just as fast has got to take a toll. Not a good matchup for Curry. I think OKC has a real chance.

    Unless Durant is going berserk, it’s going to be almost impossible for OKC to outscore the warriors in an even possession game. OKC is a really terrific offensive rebounding team, but they were a bit turnover prone in the regular season. If they can limit their own TOs they have a real shot to pull off what Cleveland didn’t have the firepower to do in the finals last year-beat Golden State by dominating possessions.

    As good as the Warriors’ offense is, there’s a real strong chance we could see Lebron vs. Durant v2.0 in a couple weeks. According to Nate Silver, the Warriors’ loss dropped their series win percentage from 71% to 44%. That’s wild.

    All the talk before the series was how the Warriors would go small and force OKC to follow suit. So Adams played 37 minutes with 16 points and 12 rebounds and Kanter (aka Freddie Mercury) played 18 productive minutes also.

    So unlike Mike Woodson, who made the disastrous decision to start K-Mart to match Indiana’s size, Billy Donovan stuck with the game plan and it paid dividends. Adams has a been a total beast in the playoffs.

    I’d like to see a Toronto vs. OKC finals. Won’t happen, though.

    Toronto Raptors, 2015-16 NBA Champions
    DeMar Derozan, 2016 Finals MVP

    How weird does that look?

    God willing, this will be the last time I have to see the “from New York” at the bottom of a lottery card for a good long while.

    Sucks to be Sam Hinkie. Finally wins a lottery, not around to make the pick.

    How the fuck is he not thanking Hinkie for landing them Ben Simmons?

    KP, Brandon Ingram, and our own 2017 lottery pick. Would be the best position we’ve been in since Ewing.

    Uh I think the sixers need to choose Ingram or trade out of #1. They already have 3 cornerstone players who can’t shoot a lick in okafor Noel and embid

    There’s no way you pass on Brandon Ingram. You trade one or two of Okafor, Saric, and Noel but you do not pass on Ingram.

    Simmoms seems to be the consensus #1.

    I think Philadelphia needs to win now and trade some of those pieces Hinkie accumulated for Carmelo Anthony.

    Well the knicks should be able to buy into the 1st rd or at the very least buy a few 2nd rd picks. Phx, Den, Philly, and Bos all have 3 picks in the 1st and several teams have multiple picks in the 2nd.

    Doesn’t Boston have like 8 picks? Surely they can’t use them all.

    I’d guess, sitting at #3, they might want to move that first rounder.

    Listen. You brought up race in another thread, didn’t you? Do you really think that yours is the only opinion allowed on the subject? Why get so angry when someone might not feel the same way? It’s a big world out there with many differing ideas and opinions.

    It sure would be great if a nameless caviar enthusiast had no no-trade clause

    Anyone wanna take bets on Lebron winning his 3rd chip this year?

    He will play 12 games in 2 months!!!!! Rest is his friend

    man, reub, you are something else.

    Thank goodness the Celts didn’t move up. #3 is a real crap shoot.

    An if we had to not have a #7 pick, I suppose this is the draft you’d pick for it to happen.

    There’s no way you pass on Brandon Ingram. You trade one or two of Okafor, Saric, and Noel but you do not pass on Ingram.

    It is a really tough call. I think Simmons is the best prospect in the draft, but he oddly enough seems like a poor fit for the Sixers AND the Lakers, as Ingram seems to fit both teams better. I think I probably still go for Simmons at #1 and then trade Okafor, but it’s a tough call.

    So what is, realistically, the highest pick we could buy off a team? 31st? 30th? What’s the ceiling, and how do the cash transfers work–does it affect any of our cap/other relevant finances?

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