Knicks Morning News (2016.05.12)

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Thursday's Knicks Links: Another sign Kurt Rambis will keep his job (Thu, 12 May 2016 04:48:13 EST)

    Thursday's Knicks Links: Another sign Kurt Rambis will keep his job

  • [New York Times] Tamika Catchings Is Ready for Her Farewell Tour (Thu, 12 May 2016 00:44:28 GMT)

    Catchings, an Indiana Fever player who has become an ambassador for women’s basketball, will close out a career that included 10 All-Star appearances and a W.N.B.A. title.

  • [New York Times] Warriors 125, Trail Blazers 121 | Golden State wins series, 4-1: Warriors Again Overcome Slow Start, This Time Eliminating Trail Blazers (Thu, 12 May 2016 06:16:29 GMT)

    Stephen Curry sank a 3-pointer with 24.9 seconds left and followed it with two free throws to seal the win.

  • [New York Times] Raptors 99, Heat 91 | Toronto leads series, 3-2: DeMar DeRozan Scores 34 in Raptors Win, Putting Heat in Elimination Territory (Thu, 12 May 2016 04:27:50 GMT)

    DeRozan’s scoring in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference semifinals Wednesday was the 13th time he had scored 20 or more points in a playoff game, a franchise best.

  • [New York Times] Curry Scores 29 as Warriors Eliminate Blazers (Thu, 12 May 2016 06:12:28 GMT)

    Stephen Curry bombed in a 3-pointer with 24.9 seconds remaining on Wednesday as the Golden State Warriors held off the Portland Trail Blazers 125-121 to seal the Western Conference semi-final playoff series four games to one.

  • [New York Times] MVP Curry and His Warriors Teammates Move Closer to Goal (Thu, 12 May 2016 07:36:45 GMT)

    Stephen Curry stopped just before leaving his postgame press conference with one final, important thought.

  • [New York Times] Backcourt Guides Raptors to 3-2 Series Lead (Thu, 12 May 2016 04:48:27 GMT)

    The Toronto Raptors All Star guards DeMar DeRozan and Kyle Lowry have come in for criticism for not living up to their status during the playoffs but both stifled the talk on Wednesday.

  • [New York Times] DeRozan Scores 34 as Raptors Beat Heat 99-91 in Game 5 (Thu, 12 May 2016 04:15:39 GMT)

    DeMar DeRozan and Kyle Lowry went from invisible to indispensable for the Toronto Raptors.

  • [New York Times] Backcourt Guides Raptors to 3-2 Series Lead (Thu, 12 May 2016 03:36:27 GMT)

    DeMar DeRozan scored 34 points and the Toronto Raptors defeated the Miami Heat 99-91 on Wednesday to take a 3-2 lead in the Eastern Conference semi-final series.

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    81 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.05.12)”

    1. Well, now we’ve got Orlando as another job opening for Blatt or Vogel to potentially take. And I could see Blatt very excited to go there, since it’s the exact kind of team he thought he was being hired to coach in Cleveland.

    2. coming from the Buford/Presti tree, Hennigan will do his due diligence and is sure to get a good coach, but I hope Ewing gets a shot there. They already had him as an assistant for a while, he’s from the van gundy coaching tree, has paid his dues, etc. etc. etc.

    3. Orlando and Phoenix already had a lot in common before they both drove onto the same NBA detour

    4. Apparently Knicks have offered Hernangomez 4 yeaes, $4.5m which is an offer he’s likely to take after turning down offers from Real Madrid twice. That’s a nice contract for him that would kind of split the difference between the mid-first round value he apparently would be in this year’s draft and the 2nd round where he was drafted last year.

      Curious to see the structure of the deal if finalized in terms of guaranteed vs. non-guaranteed years.

    5. @6

      Wow, Phil, great moves, keep it up, proud of you

      #dankmeme

      but srsly — locking down young guys on the cheap seems like a shrewd moves that Good Front Offices do.

    6. Is Willy our latest euro-big who plays like a shooting guard? Fuck I can’t wait.

    7. “Is Willy our latest euro-big who plays like a shooting guard?”
      Apparently not, since I just checked out his numbers for this past season and he didn’t take a single three pointer. Phil Jackson described him last year as a young Luis Scola. That would be great. In 39 games, he played 12 minutes/game (for one of the best teams in the world outside of the NBA) and averaged 16 points, 10 rebounds and 1.8 blocks/36 minutes on 66% shooting from the field (.68 TS%). The blocks were his biggest jump from prior years.
      “Fuck I can’t wait.”
      Me neither. Oh, wait, you were being sarcastic?

    8. Is Willy our latest euro-big who plays like a shooting guard? Fuck I can’t wait.

      Nah, he’s a relatively nonathletic big man who can rebound and score with high efficiency. Madrid didn’t play him a ton, but he was good on the spreadsheet when he got in games.

    9. Is Willy our latest euro-big who plays like a shooting guard? Fuck I can’t wait.

      The Internet is your friend

    10. Oddly Willy has a younger brother who will be drafted this year who fits the jowles mode

    11. I think the Willy signing is a great move. First, he’s a former teammate of Porzingis and they got along well. He’s the yin to KP’s yang. He’s big, burly and strong. He’ll be Robin’s backup at center and a much better option than O’Quinn there.

      That being said, I like our front court. It’s the back court that needs to be reworked. We need to get a top-10 point guard before we can even discuss being a good team.

    12. The Internet is your friend

      I was being more cynical than anything. He looks good, but still just a scratch-off in my mind.

    13. I was being more cynical than anything. He looks good, but still just a scratch-off in my mind.

      Why so cynical? Even calling him a scratch off would underrate him. He supposedly would go as a first rounder this year, he also put up numbers that would have him as a highly rated prospect if he had played in the NCAA. He also had better rebounding numbers than porzingis when they played together and was more efficient this past year than porzingis was while playing in the best league outside the NBA

    14. I mean that’s cool and all but Anthony Bennett was a #1 pick so nothing is certain except that James Dolan is an idiot

      Why so cynical?

      oh idk, 9 consecutive years under .500, 3 fluke playoff years (ty Tyson) and a franchise-record loss total

      idk

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/

    15. “I mean that’s cool and all but Anthony Bennett was a #1 pick so nothing is certain”
      Right. So, since no new player is a sure thing, the Knicks should not even attempt to acquire any new players. They should especially avoid picking up guys who are young, affordable and viewed by many as good prospects. It would be stupid for them to acquire such players because it might cause all of us non- or semi-cynics to become a little optimistic, which will surely lead to our hopes being crushed. It might also lead us to believe that Phil Jackson is not a complete idiot and that he might know a little bit about basketball, which we, of course, do not want…

    16. I mean Bennett was a number 1 pick, but not too many people thought he should be. Even then most number 1s do well. That’s quite different than a scratch off. Cavs have a pretty terrible draft history too (see Waiters, Dion). One thing you cant say about the knicks is that they’re bad drafters. They aren’t the best, but they usually find useful players. The problem is not keeping them.

    17. I don’t understand the negativity about this.

      This is the sort of move that the Spurs have been making for the last 15 years.

      Pick some Euro with good numbers with a late 1st rounder or 2nd rounder, wait for the contract to expire and then sign him.

      Ginobili
      Parker
      Scola
      Barbosa
      Udrih
      Mahinmi
      Splitter
      Dragic
      Marjanovic

      There are others that didn’t work but that is a great list of real NBA players

    18. Right. So, since no new player is a sure thing, the Knicks should not even attempt to acquire any new players. They should especially avoid picking up guys who are young, affordable and viewed by many as good prospects.

      There is a part of me that thinks the Knicks should cease to exist as a franchise so a new, better franchise can come and take its place. But never you mind that.

      In reality, I have always advocated for this kind of behavior from the Knicks. As I’ve said before, I called for players such as Will Barton and Hassan Whiteside to be signed for pennies as Knicks. This is a good signing. My joke is that the Knicks always seem to manage to sign these “high reward” players who can’t do foundational things like finish layups (Iman Shumpert) or shoot threes (Jerian Grant) or avoid the all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet (Ray Felton) or literally anything of value on a basketball court (Andrea B.). Maybe he’ll be good, but I’m expecting him to come over as a center who parks for corner threes, passes out of dunk attempts and never crashes the boards. Just jaded, that’s all.

      One thing you cant say about the knicks is that they’re bad drafters. They aren’t the best, but they usually find useful players. The problem is not keeping them

      Who are “the knicks” in this sentence?

      Scott Layden? Isiah? Donnie Walsh? Grunwald? Phil Jackson?

      Fact: they were all in charge of draft selection. Also fact: them having the same (or similar) job titles does not link their ability to evaluate and select talent.

    19. Scott Layden? Isiah? Donnie Walsh? Grunwald? Phil Jackson?

      Fact: they were all in charge of draft selection. Also fact: them having the same (or similar) job titles does not link their ability to evaluate and select talent.

      To my knowledge most of the scouting staff and player personnel staff that Walsh put together has been kept and used by both Grunwald and Jackson.

      So the people making the picks have changed, but beyond the addition of Clarence Gaines I don’t think the people in charge with compiling scouting reports and background checks has changed very much. Since Walsh took over I think the Knicks have done an okay job in the draft, but have stupidly handed away so many picks that they have failed to utilize it much.

    20. A lot of the draft selection process is luck. To get good players, you typically have to rely on other teams selecting the wrong players (e.g. Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters) so you have the opportunity to select the right ones (Damian Lillard, Andre Drummond).

      Then to create a contender from that process, you need it to happen multiple times and for those players to not get injured or be so terrible off the court that they ruin everything around them. The nature of talent distribution in the NBA suggests that we shouldn’t expect our team to have an actual, real-deal superstar-level player, and we don’t. There are very few of them.

      Likewise, Hernangomez is a good signing but the odds are that he’ll be another middling NBA player who will help us toward .500 but not toward the Conference Finals. I’m okay with that because it’s unreasonable not to be.

    21. Some of you guys really need some therapy.

      I’m going to go play pick-up basketball tonight from 7 to 9 and get my shit worked by some 19-year-old who was a benchwarmer on his JV team back in his organized-ball days.

      It helps keep me balanced. All of the talk on this website is about being unable to discern between many of the world’s 400-or-so best basketball players. It’s not a terribly easy thing to do. You seem to be worse at it than me, but you might drive left better than I do.

    22. Didn’t think that someone would find a way to turn the Willy H signing into a fatalistic pity party, yet here we are.

    23. Didn’t think that someone would find a way to turn the Willy H signing into a fatalistic pity party, yet here we are.

      just be happy you’re invited. we’re one tony wroten post away from reub driving left for the first time since oasis broke up.

    24. @32 We would have also accepted an dankly reframed “here comes dat boi” meme.

    25. So jaded! Why can’t some of you just be fans? Heck we’re about to sign a 21 yr old player made of iron who is friends with Porzingis and is nicknamed el pivot. What can be wrong with that?

    26. I don’t think Hernangomez has actually signed anything. It’s an “under the table” offer. Hopefully he’ll sign. He seems to be the equivalent of a mid-1st rounder this year. Not a great athlete but skilled and seems to know his limitations.

      Meanwhile, now Skiles is available as HC. No one here going to sing his praises?

    27. Evan Fournier just tweeted “What the fck” as a response to Skiles leaving. Let’s go get him Phil.

      You see, this is what unjaded fans do.

    28. Meanwhile, now Skiles is available as HC. No one here going to sing his praises?

      Skiles is a good coach, but he burns his teams out quick and generally doesn’t seem like a good fit.

    29. No no and no to Skiles, everywhere he goes it always starts great and ends badly.

      Sort of like the Knicks’ 2015-2016 season.

    30. I’ll be okay with the possible Skiles hiring once I see him smile

      he looks like the kind of dude who would win a title and talk at the postgame press conference about how he was looking toward next season and finding ways to improve

    31. @43 like Nick Saban, who says he celebrates a national championship for one day, then starts working on the next season. A no-life joyless person.

    32. Willy H seems to me like a solid second-round pick, and a good bet to stick as a backup center type. He seems to me to be a bit like O’Quinn, except that Willy is regarded as a high-IQ, high-motor player while KO’Q is the kind of player that routinely gets pulled after 30 seconds on the floor because he did something careless. But he’s the same basic type of player: he’s roughly the same size as O’Quinn and they’re both burly slow guys who can grab rebounds. Willy is probably a better passer.

      Considering the Knicks gave 1200+ minutes to O’Quinn and Kevin Seraphin last year, I’m looking forward to watching Willy play. If he’s a decent backup center he’ll be an upgrade over what we ran out there last year.

    33. I’m still hoping for Pao and/or Noah if their cost is reasonable plus Bazemore, Fournier, Crabbe, Clarkson or Batum. Even Stephenson. Then a 3pt shooter like Bayless.

    34. Playing David West in 2016 while Boban exists on your roster is inexplicable.

    35. Boban fouls Kanter and Kanter does a pushup while still on the floor. The Spurs have no hope!

    36. The fewest points in a half the Spurs have scored all season. OKC seriously putting the screws to them.

    37. Playing David West in 2016 while Boban exists on your roster is inexplicable.

      Mr Max Boban sporting a crisp -13 in 7 minutes with one board and 3 fouls…. but he TS%=1.000 Ginobli being -26 in 10 minutes might be some sort of record.

    38. The Spurs need to fire their GM, 2 years in a row without a championship is unacceptable.

    39. Does Pop get fired for this game? Rambis is on the market.

    40. I’d still take Boban on my team.

      For the max?

      I’m guessing there is a reason Pop played him 9 minutes a game at the age of 27 despite the crazy stats he shows

    41. Roberson ain’t a shot creator but he’s creating some shots eh?

    42. There are only two players on the market that I would offer a max contract. Kevin Durant and Hassan Whiteside.

    43. Dude, the Spurs are imploding. Holy shit. Everyone whiffs on a defensive board, which leads to an uncontested dunk by Adams.

      They should quit.

    44. They chose a really bad game to not show up. I just hope KD signs a one year contract instead of a multi year deal at the end of the season.

    45. Oh well, I guess Durant won’t be signing with SA after all! Bunch of quitters!
      :-)

    46. This is a really sad way for Kevin Martin and David West’s season to be over. : (

    47. It’s crazy how Oklahoma City is the only team in the NBA with two top 5 players on their roster but were seen as prohibitive outsiders for the NBA championship.

      The Spurs sure will fight though.

    48. We just witnessed an 80 year old pick and roll. That’s excellent right there.

    49. It’s crazy how Oklahoma City is the only team in the NBA with two top 5 players on their roster but were seen as prohibitive outsiders for the NBA championship.

      whois: Dion Waiters

    50. I don’t know what it is about Westbrook… But I really don’t like him. Never have. I think he reminds me of Chris Brown and I hate Chris Brown. It’s a fucked up cycle of hate.

    51. I feel bad for the Spurs though. I wanted them to win the championship. They’re a great team’s team.

    52. Spurs with the chance to cut the lead from 11 to 9. Duncan rolls to the rim, path clear for the dunk… and is strong-side rejected by Ibaka. Duncan is bowled off his feet. Westbrook gets the rebound, races up the court, and dishes to Durant for the emphatic transition dunk. The camera finds Duncan on the other end, his head lowered.

      Timmy no :'(

    53. Oh I really dislike the Thunder’s management group. They traded for Dion Waiters last year and then traded for Randy Foye this year. It’s as if one Dion Waiters wasn’t enough and they needed to corner the market on all the Dion Waiters in the world. But KD and Russ are just really good at basketball, man.

    54. Shocked that Pop relegated superstar Boban Marjanovich to the bench. Guy just doesn’t know basketball.

      On a serious note I didn’t think Pop distributed his minutes very well in this series. There was never a point where Green and Leonard both should have been off the floor when one of Durant or Westbrook was on. Also no excuse for Leonard and LMA to both sit at the same time when they couldn’t get a shot anywhere else.

      Surpisingly Donovan discovered the value of staggering Durant and Westbrook so that one of them was on the floor at all times.

      I have a hard time seeing Waiters maintain his 60.3 TS% and the Kanter/Adams duo having as much joy against GSW, but when you have KD and Westbrook you’ll always have a chance.

    55. How do the Spurs not exploit the Leonard-Westbrook mismatch on every possession?

      These Spurs are the quintessential “built for the regular season” team. They are essentially the 12-13 Knicks.

    56. Golden State in five. Steph Curry is honestly on another planet. You have All Stars, Superstars, and then you have Steph Curry. OKC and GS play at the same tempo and that means Steph is gonna have a 60 point performance before the series is up.

    57. Surpisingly Donovan discovered the value of staggering Durant and Westbrook so that one of them was on the floor at all times.

      It has always shocked me how both Brooks and Donovan would not stagger those two guys. The team with them on the court and without is such a stark contrast. It’s so painfully obvious to stagger them.

    58. Adams was fucking terrific tonight. He and KD torched the best defense the league has seen in like a decade (with some help from Russ). Should be interesting to see if Kanter/Adams/Durant is playable against a GS small lineup

    59. http://nypost.com/2016/05/12/magic-shakeup-complicates-knicks-wild-coaching-search/

      lololol if there is anything the Knicks’ “coaching search” is, WILD is NOT it.

      I try to be somewhat measured in criticism when I can be, but honestly – going completely AWOL when there is a coaching search going on (and multiple competitors for good coaches) is a fireable offense. Like a “fire for cause” and not have to honor the rest of the contract kind of fireable offense. IMHO. Seriously – the guy who is going to coach your team is completely unknown, and

      the whereabouts of Jackson still are unknown.

      Seriously – Dolan needs to fire Phil. I’m not overly pessimistic about his “GM” type moves — at least he hasn’t traded away and draft picks, he DID sign RoLo to what looks to be a very good contract, and he DID draft KP — but the Triangle obsession and going AWOL does not sit well with me. And it should sit very poorly with Dolan.

    60. “the whereabouts of Jackson still are unknown.”
      Unknown to whom? Marc Berman? Brian Lewis? (whoever that is) That’s hardly a fireable offense. My guess is that James Dolan knows where he is and/or how to reach him.

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