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Have a quick question for the board. I’m in Gowanus/Park Slope for the week, anyone know a good sports bar in the area to watch Game 5 tonight?
Feels like a funeral up in here. Home crowd, and never say die attitude. I think they can gut this one out. Got the last one out of their system. I’m cautiously optimistic.
Dram Shop on 9th is probably the nicest sports bar. American Cheese is a good dive with free bar pizza, black horse tavern is a another solid sports bar
This team, management, and thibs, have learned a lot this post season. I expect adjustments and positive changes. I’m proud of them. It’s all gravy at this point. I know some of you don’t want to hear that. But it’s the truth. I hope it keeps going. But I’m at peace if they just ran out of steam with all these injuries. You have to suffer before getting over the hill. Even LeBron and MJ had too. They are forged in this crucible. They now know how mentally and physically tough you need to be to make the leap.
I’m rooting hard that we can squeeze just a bit more juice out of our already squeezed lime to make this magical gutty run last just a bit longer.
very well put, llcoolbp.
Win today, get a much needed 2 days off and finish the job Friday at Indiana. Knicks got this!
I think I’m going to start drinking early today.
I have a refrigerator full of Belgium ales I bought yesterday. I can already hear them calling my name. “Strat, Strat, Strat we are here for you”.
Before we begin today’s inevitable discussion about player overuse, how about a group sing along to Seasons of Love from Rent?
Ready?
🎶 “Five hundred twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes” 🎶
Letting the big man take the wheel and will just try to enjoy seeing Crazy Horse tonight instead of stressing over a game.
Show a little faith, there’s magic in the night…
Let’s Go Knicks!
Bounce back victory this evening! The crowd will pull them through!
Thanks DRed! I think Dram Shop is gonna be the one.
I have a very hard time believing they can win this one, but to be honest I don’t care.
I’m not about moral victories, but there’s not so much you can do against bad luck (or whatever you want to pin this flurry of injuries to, I don’t subscribe to the Thibs is a maniac theory about that but YMMV and that’s ok too).
Enjoy every single last second of this amazing ride and get ready for 2024-25!
Have a quick question for the board. I’m in Gowanus/Park Slope for the week, anyone know a good sports bar in the area to watch Game 5 tonight?
I got roped into running for our condo board by some aggressive neighbors and the annual meeting is tonight so will be following the game via play-by-play. Hopefully the Knicks win and I lose!
I feel very confident about tonight. Game 4 was a schedule loss. We went hard in game 3, played 3 games in 5 days with a short rotation, then had less than 48 hours to recover. Shit happens.
And I highly doubt Precious is starting again.
The best thing about game 4 is that we didn’t make a run in the 3Q. It gave most of our guys a half day. That and the Pacers pre-celebrated hard. There’s a clip of Pacers talking shit to Brunson after the game and he says “it’s a long fucking series” back.
I wish we’d done some politicking about the refs but home teams get crazy whistles whether there’s politicking or not. The Pacers (and Nesmith in particular) got away with murder in games 3 & 4. They may be surprised how hard it gets when the refs don’t swallow their whistles.
Same here. Cautiously optimistic. The mood in the forum is spoiled by certain actors. I checked at one point yesterday afternoon and out of the 160 or so posts on the thread, 37 were by the two top maniacal fools with the known agenda. That is almost one in four posts. They drag the same point over and over based on spurious assumptions and non sequiturs and, of course, quantity is their only strength. Unfortunately, some people take the bait and respond, hence the attention those fools crave, the havoc in which they thrive, and the overall feeling of doom. The opposite emotions should be predominant, even if we don’t get past Indiana. The Knicks have overachieved and forced even known media haters to love them. They never gave up while one could easily argue they had no business even being in the playoffs. Instead, they made it to the top, then knocked out Philly and now they are fighting to get to the Eastern Conference Finals. Why not be pleased with all this? Let’s go in with all positive energy tonight and whatever happens, happens. We are proud of those Knicks.
On a tactical level (i.e. putting aside the fatigue issue), our starters against their bench hasn’t proven to be a good matchup. We’re just not getting the same first unit vs second unit advantage we got in the Sixers series. So there’s incredible room for improvement tonight with some minor adjustments. We know Obi Toppin’s defensive faults better than anyone. We should be able to figure out how to capitalize on his weakness.
Dude
I am so sorry for you
Finn’s Corner, Union Grounds, and Wing Bar are all fairly close and in my experience(s) are all great places to watch a game.
“Dude
I am so sorry for you”
lol thanks Farfa, but no biggie. It’s a typical suburban townhouse community, there are 40 units and very nice grounds, not a lot of squabbling among unit owners, just a situation where things are showing their age, e.g. the pool, so it’s mainly about repairs, maintenance, and aesthetic upgrades. Being that I’m retired and one of the longer-running unit owners, I felt obligated to take a shift. Just bad timing Knick-wise!
I’m similarly at peace at this point. Beating Philly was fun as hell and if we lose to Indiana it won’t be for lack of effort. It does suck that we collected basically no useful data on where we truly stand relative to the clear contenders, but at a minimum we still found out:
1) Playoff Josh is real
2) Concerns about Playoff Donte were vastly overstated
3) Arid Books might not be deep-fried (has some relevance on the off chance we re-sign him, which wouldn’t be crazy if he’s willing to take a 1 + 1/1 + non-guaranteed year)
But I didn’t hear no bell, let’s hit 20 threes tonight and kick their ass.
Ah well, I can guess that, but condo managing is my job and I’m pretty much obliged to show sympathy to anyone who actually invests some of his precious time in dealing with condo things 😀
and aesthetic upgrades.
First suggestion: all flowers must be orange or blue. Second suggestion: anyone with a green door or shutters must paint them another color. Immediately if the Knicks make the ECF.
I agree with the basic thread, great ride, and there’s definitely hope for tonight. I was relatively pleased to see Brunson getting the whistle in his time during the second half, here’s hoping that there’s pressure on the refs to keep calling the mugging. That would help immeasurably.
I need to see us get past this round to reach the level of acceptance you guys have. This is the 7th seeded Indiana Pacers we’re playing. Even with all our men down, this is an even matchup right now, and we’re favored to win.
Holy crap, are you Max Weinberg?
Anyway, tonight should be fun. No expectations, but any game is winnable with this crew.
1) It’s actually 6th
2) I can assure you that a Ferrari on two wheels doesn’t run faster than a Fiat Panda on four
Things working in our favor tonight:
-Home cooking
-Urgency
-Shooting variance
-Hali banged up
Things working against us:
-Knicks look exhausted while Indiana looks re-energized
-Indiana may have settled in to a formula for keeping Brunson in check
-Depleted bench
I want to get to game 7 just to see the first instance of a coach never making a substitution in an actual NBA game
The Knicks are a .500 team without OG and with Precious in his place they’ve been awful
What would the Vegas O/U be of the following team for a full season?
Brunson/Deuce/DDV/Hart/iHart
Precious/Burks/Sims/Shake/Jeffries/Diakite
These are the 11 remainers if I’m not mistaken. Maybe 38.5?
“Maybe 38.5?”
I’d bet the under on that one…
I got roped into running for our condo board by some aggressive neighbors and the annual meeting is tonight so will be following the game via play-by-play.
hadn’t planned to download the blocking extension before reading this
38.5 would be that teams ceiling if healthy
One Brunson injury and it goes down to 25 games
“Precious/Burks/Sims/Shake/Jeffries/Diakite”
Outside of Burks and Precious [in a very limited role] the rest aren’t NBA rotation players
I disagree about that. He’s been all over the map these playoffs, good to great in 5 games and terrible in the other 5. In his 5 good games he’s putting up 26/4/3.4, 1.2 steals and 1.2 blocks on 49.5/55.1/100 shooting splits. Those could be superstar numbers.
But, in his 5 bad games he’s putting up 7.4/3.4/2, 0.6 steals, and 0.8 blocks on 27.5/21.4/75 shooting splits. Those are unplayable. I like Donte but he’s too inconsistent to be relied on, he needs to be more like a 4th or 5th option not the 2nd like he’s been. Even Starks wasn’t this inconsistent.
6th seeded actually and talking about seeds is kind of irrelevant when the bottom 7 seeds were only separated by 4 games.
“I disagree about that. He’s been all over the map these playoffs, good to great in 5 games and terrible in the other 5.”
Last I checked, nearly all starters in these playoffs, including stars, have been all over the map. At the end of the day, DDV playing to an overall 1.4 BPM in 10 playoff games is not at all aligned with the narrative about Playoff Donte. He has played like a legit 4th-5th starter on a good playoff team, which is all one could have hoped for. No one thought he would play at a consistent all-star level.
Yeah, donte’s been up and down. He’s been alright, which is fine. He should be like our 4th option.
this is what people were worried about with ‘playoff donte’
this year donte’s shooting 400/429/941, 16.9 per 36. He’s been fine. Small sample and all, he’s been worse than regular season Donte, but not unplayable.
Thibs is gonna roll with the “Precious at the 4” lineup again, isn’t he?
This is a worse problem than the minutes allocation. That lineup with Precious at the 4 is an automatic fail. You have to hope to survive the horrible minutes you get from your STARTING LINEUP.
Go small, play Deuce at the 2, play 4-out and give yourself a chance to win. We simply can’t survive very many minutes with the double big lineup, it gets its ass kicked with 100% regularity.
I don’t feel too great about tonight, the Pacers are just better than we are at this point. But who knows, maybe JB has a bit more bounce and we can win anyhow.
Thank you for posting that reality check so I don’t have to be the one to say it first today, ETW. This is a sub-.500 team before factoring in Brunson being crippled. Accounting for that it’s a deep lottery team whose win total would be somewhere in the 20’s.
I see that Vegas has us as a slight favorite tonight, but Brunson has looked worse and worse since the G2 injury and there’s no reason to believe he’ll look any better tonight. That being so, I put our chances of winning around 10-15%. Hope I’m wrong!
He absolutely is. The East is big, man.
Playing Precious at the 4 until we’re down 30 points is a big part of what we do here. We’re not going to kick that to the curb.
A Ferrari on two wheels wouldn’t be expected to win a race. And with everything that’s happened we’re 2.5 point favorites to win a home game at MSG tonight. I don’t begrudge you guys your zen, but this isn’t Saint Crispin’s Day for me. This is a fair fight.
We’ve still got Brunson, Donte, Hart, and Hartenstein. One thing I love about Thibs is he’ll tell you straight up: “we’ve got more than enough to win.” That rings true to me tonight. If those guys show up, we win this series.
The problem with going small is you are putting all of your eggs in the Hart vs. Siakam matchup. Frankly, the Pacers starting 5 is essentially a smallish lineup but with length and shooting at all 5 positions. I just don’t see running a lineup that is even smaller than that as a positive. It’s kind of a pick your poison situation that is 100% dependent on Brunson, DDV and JHart all doing their thing, and Deuce and Burks giving us something off the bench. In that sense, I’m fine with starting Precious.
Really? Feel free to name another player that’s put up end of the bench numbers in half his playoff games this year. I like Donte, but he definitely hasn’t proved that he’s a consistent playoff performer.
A 3rd or 4th option (Donte) that wins you a couple of playoff games is doing his job just fine. Probably better than fine. Prove me wrong.
Vegas says that cast should win tonight and should win this series.
Look man I’m not saying you shouldn’t be content with any outcome. I’m just saying it has to be the Celtics on the other end for to me sing que sera, sera. These Pacers aren’t good enough for me to accept we couldn’t win this series.
Fixed this for ya.
Yeah, those Donte numbers are more than acceptable for 4th-ish option in the playoffs, especially when you consider he’s hitting 43% of his 3s on high volume and holding his own defensively. He’s accumulated them unevenly with terrible games and heaters, but the idea that he’s not enough of a ruff rydah or whatever for the playoffs can be put to bed.
I’d start Deuce, but I can’t say I’m terribly worked up about the decision one way or the other. We’re left with bad choices here. Going small and punting on our rebounding advantage comes with perils of its own. Again, I think it’s better than the alternative–those Precious at the 4 lineups are an eyesore offensively–but the “good news” is we’re so crippled that whoever you want to start will get starters’ minutes or close to it anyway.
LOL. You’re an optimist, Farfa, maybe we’ll see it in game 6. 😛
Definitely taking the under. A 7-man rotation during the regular season would probably be a first. 😀
He kicked it to the curb at halftime so he’s probably not going back to it tonight.
I bet the plan is to start Deuce and play him 48 unless the size mismatch makes it untenable.
Josh is playing 48, too. Jalen & Donte 45. And you’ll get no complaint from me because this is the game to do it.
Tonight’s game is a crucial game, because if we lose i don’t think our team can have the energy to bounce back in Indy. So we’ve got to win this at all costs, to put the pressure back on Indy’s side.
Control the rhythm and kick their ass.
If we fall in their run and gun trap i don’t expect good things.
Make this a half court grind and we’re Ready.
Precious at the 4 wrecks the spacing and he’s not even that great of a rebounder. I just hope we don’t get run out of the building early because we’re using such a wretched offensive lineup.
We absolutely need to start McBride. I think we are still the better team but after Sunday I am truly worried. I would not be okay with losing this series. I think we are better and to lose like this would be a big disappointment. It is never okay for a 2 seed to lose to a 6 seed. Everyone has injuries, it is not an excuse. That’s why teams have more than 8 players.
My biggest worry, other than Brunson’s foot, is that the lopsided loss put our guys on tilt. One of the things that have defined this group is their belief in themselves and the fact they never give up. If that was shaken even a little I could see this going badly.
We weren’t just beaten we were embarrassed. It was a truly shameful display. We were down by 40 in the 4th. We need to win this one decisively.
If we lose 4 in a row then the narrative will be we were the worse team and we got whooped. It will be all about the game four blowout, how we couldn’t hang, and how Brunson got figured out. That cannot be the outcome.
“Really? Feel free to name another player that’s put up end of the bench numbers in half his playoff games this year. I like Donte, but he definitely hasn’t proved that he’s a consistent playoff performer.”
That’s pretty arbitrary, the larger point is that plenty of starters in these playoffs have been inconsistent from game to game and have overall BPMs worse than Donte. Darius Garland is a prominent example. So is Max Strus. Jamal Murray. KCP. Lu Dort. Rudy Gobert.
Not to mention that he made critical shots in key moments, without which we would not still be playing.
Ideally he’d be playing 20-25 minutes off the bench, and I would agree with anyone who says that Leon should look to upgrade the starting SG position. But he’s been fucking awesome to root for and has been a major plus for this team in these playoffs, even with the bad games.
The narrative will be once OG got hurt they just didn’t have enough left which would be the truth.
If that were the truth they wouldn’t have been up 9 on the road in game 3 with every chance to close this out.
Game 4 is so clearly an outlier. We played 3 down-to-the-wire-playoff games in 5 days with a game 7 rotation and we had less than 48 hours rest. That game was both inevitable and irrelevant.
Take out Siakam, Nesmith and Jackson how would Indiana be looking right now?
If you play Deuce you just tell everyone that no help is coming and Siakim is going to have to beat us himself. Don’t let that little bitch Hali shoot open threes. Punch him in the face if he drives.
Come on, man.
We’re missing our starting PF (2 time all-star), our starting SF (best defensive wing in the league), our back up Center and our back up SF.
Two starters and two rotation players. The players who can play won’t make excuses but let’s not be ridiculous.
And honestly this “we lost to a lower seed” narrative is stupid. They lost 3 less games than us in the regular season.
We are actually now 1.5 point favorites. I don’t think Brunson’s injury is being fully priced in, might be underdogs by tipoff if it is.
I expect us to be down like 12-4 within the first 3 minutes again so don’t think we’ll be in suspense for very long.
I went from thinking DDV was superfluous and that adding him made it more likely we would trade Quickley (who I love and did not want to trade); to thinking he was playing better than expected and adding him opened the door to being able to land OG (who I also love and think was a more essential fit); to watching him become so critical in some games I’m starting to question whether we need to upgrade him. Maybe he should just start and we should use another approach to getting better. I don’t mind being wrong as long as I’m pleasantly surprised to the upside.
I don’t want to be downbeat or premature. Winning tonight and/or winning the series is going to be tough given all the injuries. But I’m all in emotionally for tonight. It’s going to be joyous or very painful for me. Despite that and no matter what happens, I’m optimistic about the future. I can’t wait to see what we do in the draft and off season to take this team on step further. When this team is healthy and filled out, it’s going to be REALLY GOOD.
Brunson / Halliburton
Donte / Nembhart
Deuce / Nesmith
Hart / Siakim
Hartenstein / Turner
I don’t see the hopeless mismatch.
Their bench is gonna beat us but our best should beat their best.
When the playoffs started my main hope was that nothing happened injury-wise to jeopardize next year. I was still optimistic b/c, even without Randle, I thought this was a wide open year in which we would go deep and maybe even steal one for the ages. But next year — at full strength — this team should be a real force.
Unfortunately, Mitch went down, Bogie went down, OG went down, and now Brunson seems at 60% with a real chance (IMO) that he is playing on a slight fracture of his metatarsal. Even iHart’s arm is barking at the moment.
Yes I’m thrilled to watch these fun games, but, regardless of our endless debates about minutes/fault, my priority is still: Let’s be good next year. I’ll take Thibs at his word that he always defers to medical, but I hope that staff is conservative and focused on protecting and now rehabbing our guys.
It’s not a hopeless mismatch but without OG it’s 50/50 at best. I personally still think the Knicks will find a way to win this series but it won’t be a disaster or failure if they blow it.
Coincidentally, I’m at the Rolling Stone offices in the city today, and it occurred to me that, ordinarily, I’d be getting to Penn Station for my train home around when people are arriving for the game. Maybe I’ll check StubHub relatively close to tip to see if anyone’s selling their seats dirt cheap. Be weird to watch a game solo, but…
I think all the electronic ink being spilled on Donte seems right. I’m of the opinion that if he hits his threes (and Deuce gets a few), we win. If not, we don’t. If feels as if the game pivots on that.
Also whether Brunson is feeling a bit better. But mostly Donte and his threes.
DDV hit 7 threes and scored 35 pts in Game 3 and it wasn’t enough…
Try the gametime app, Alan. They don’t have a cutoff time like StubHub.
Try the app where their commercial is a bunch of old ladies saying tick picks but it sounds like dick pics.
Assuming no more unexpected bad news, my biggest concern going into this offseason is that the illusory eye candy from January conspires with Thibs to convince Leon that this team is set and to just run it back, similar to what happened in 2021 but at a higher level. I sort of have faith that that won’t happen but it wouldn’t shock me either.
We’d have a perfectly good shot of winning if Brunson was healthy but he’s very clearly not and I don’t see the point of pretending he is. Sure, some 3 point luck or a bad shooting night from Indy and we can certainly win, but unless JBs foot is a lot better the pacers are deeper and have the two best players, it’s a tough job
I see the concern but IMO they are not similar situations at all. We actually didn’t really “run it back” that year if you think about it. We made 2 pretty major changes to the starting line up with the Kemba and Fournier acquisitions, neither of which worked out. And “running it back” meant bringing back Noel and Rose, both of whom immediately broke down.
Running it back this year means bringing back OG, iHart and to a lesser degree, Precious. Plus not moving on from Randle and/or Mitch.
I think that is a wise course of action. It doesn’t mean I believe no one on the team should ever be traded. But I think coming off the injuries, we could potentially be selling low on Mitch and Randle.
Plus we do have the 2 first round picks and second round pick to make.
When we ran it back that year we did not have anyone as foundational as Brunson. That alone mitigates to some degree any chance of a Randle regression, etc.
For me running it back is about shoring up our bench depth by making those picks and restocking the end of the bench with some young talent that we can develop. We need that.
But also think we should be looking for a vet minimum back up PG. Another big. Etc.
And definitely open to a big trade if it’s the right one. Just not Devin Booker for all the picks please!
“We’d have a perfectly good shot of winning if Brunson was healthy but he’s very clearly not and I don’t see the point of pretending he is. Sure, some 3 point luck or a bad shooting night from Indy and we can certainly win, but unless JBs foot is a lot better the pacers are deeper and have the two best players, it’s a tough job”
Come on, DRed, we’re favored. That means that only Thibs can fuck this up, right? Right?!
You’re right, DRed. Brunson being healthy is baked into the assumption (and the point spread). If he is hobbled tonight, then I’ll be as resigned as the next guy. He is not even listed on the injury report, though, so it seems like he’s good.
I’d put it on the players tonight, Troll-Man. Not much more Thibs can do at this point other than not start Precious.
Games like these come down to the top guys, and our best are still as good as theirs.
I don’t think he was on the Game 4 injury report, though, Hubert. Maybe I’m remembering wrong, though. Regardless, being off the injury report just means they expect him to play no matter what, not at what level they expect him to be able to play.
If Brunson is hobbled tonight I’ll sing the same tune as everyone else. I’m expecting a peak performance.
“I’d put it on the players tonight, Troll-Man.”
The cake (i.e. pile of bullshit) has already been baked. Thibs is an insane, lunatic, maniac who doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing. You have said it over and over. Now it’s just a matter of what kind of icing we wind up with.
Me and the entire sports universe.
Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings obliteration. I will face my fear and I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
i think i was somewhere in my early, maybe mid 20’s when i first read that quote…absolutely loved it…made it through some of God Emperor before putting the series down…
pausing on therapy for some period of time – partly financial choice, also you know, sometimes you just need to go out and use the tools you’ve learned…
plus, while recently speaking to a doctor, reference my shoulder, they gave me great insight in to my situation…
access to some very good physicians have been a big blessing for me…i’ve spoken with so many the last few years…learned so much, particular to my health concerns…i love it when they talk science to me…
i’ve started talking about different kinds/types of anti-anxiety pharmaceuticals in more depth with the folks helping me…
recently understanding though, despite fantastic technical knowledge/experience – they do not know how i feel…might understand…but, few folks understand that constant “live-wire” feeling…wanting to scream…like a shook up can of soda…
i’m still actively learning the physical techniques for my breathe and heart rate, need to put more discipline in to it of course…seeing now if there are ways to mindfully/physically influence the endocrine system…
see if i can reduce the epinephrine produced…why not…
anyways – back to the point of the quote…goddamn if the knicks don’t raise my level of FEAR/ANXIETY and general case of bad fucking nerves…
thankfully, a plus of therapy has been understanding the need to strap yourself in (for me that meant an office chair), and try to actively mange the ride…
oh yeah, go knicks…and yeah, why not…
come to think of it – more so than the knicks winning – i really really wanna see the pacers lose…
“Me and the entire sports universe.”
Thibs was 5th in CoTY voting. Seems that at least some of those votes came from the sports universe.
Then there’s this:
Ah yes, so great to be in the same company as Shaq and SAS! Voices of reason right there!
it would not be weird in the very least…i hope things work out…
When someone is so self-absorbed that they think that their opinion is representative of the entire sports universe, that pretty much says it all.
Enjoy your cake!
Just an incredible Thibs profile on ESPN today, and not just for the photo of a young, smoking hot twentysomething Thibs on the beach:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40140592/tom-thibodeau-new-york-knicks-2024-nba-playoffs-indiana-pacers
At the risk of extending the minutes police debate even further, Tim Keown gets into that quite a bit in talking with the players, including this passage:
Certain posters:
“The Knicks should win because they have a better regular season record that the Pacers and therefore must be the better team”
Same posters:
“The Knicks only have a better regular season record than the Pacers because their coach is a insane lunatic maniac who treats every regular season game like it’s game 7 of the finals, i.e. they are not actually as good as their regular season record says they are.”
Same posters:
“The Knicks’ coach grinds their players into dust, making it virtually impossible for them to go on a long playoff run.”
Same posters:
“Even with their entire starting front line and a key reserve already ground into dust by the coach, the Knicks should win in the second round against a much healthier opponent.”
Also good are the quotes from iHart about the practices and how different they are to what he was expecting. DDV has made similar quotes in the past.
Indiana beat the Knicks without Siakam and Jackson once this year, and lost once. So, Randle and Nesmith playing in those games aside, it looks like things could easily be split going into game five regardless. “The East is close, man!”
Yeah, I wanted to encourage people, as always, to click on the links. But there’s a lot of great stuff about Thibs’ personality, the personality of the players, and how the two have intertwined to make something greater than the sum of the parts.
How dare Tim Keown bring up the minutes!
In contrast, Joakim Noah sure got all kinds of rest when he was on the Knicks roster!
Perhaps this had something to do with his body having been destroyed at his previous place of employment?
I kid, I kid.
I know people don’t want to see Precious start, but Siakam vs Hart in the post is automatic points for Indy.
Maybe it doesn’t matter because they’re gonna score anyway or maybe we can cross match iHart onto him and put Hart on Turner, but Hart has been killed in that matchup.
Mitch & OG get hurt all the time. Part of it is on Thibs but it would surprise nobody if those 2 were out during the playoffs under every other coach in the league too.
Guys, not a single comment on Hot Young Thibs looking like Stallone in Rocky II? What are we even doing here?
Bait them into settling only for 2’s so they don’t shoot as many 3’s?
Eric Adams has been saying crazy shit in a Knicks hat lately I wonder if he’ll be at the garden
Kind of a brilliant article, Alan. Thanks. Two lines I liked especially (although there are many):
‘His body is highly fluent in frustration.’
and
‘He doesn’t clap because his investment is not emotional. It’s an intellectual investment, and clapping for a good play gets in the way of preparing for the next one.’
“Perhaps this had something to do with his body having been destroyed at his previous place of employment?
I kid, I kid.”
It’s all good! As I’ve said, I’m not a fan of Thibs’ minutes allocations. But I get why he does it and there is a logic to it. And without him doing it, we’re probably already discussing who we should draft (if they draft at all!)
While I think Thibs has done an overall great job in his tenure as Knicks coach, there are reasonable criticisms of his approach, as there are with most coaches. But there’s a gaping expanse between “I really wish he would do this or that differently” and “He’s an idiotic, insane, lunatic who doesn’t know what he’s doing.”
Alan:
“Oh. My. God.”
Hart taking a pic of it on his phone to show everyone on the team was great too.
Keown’s a great writer and his general thesis is essentially the same as mine, so good to see. Talented and devoted guy whose devotion unfortunately crosses the line to clannishness and myopia too often.
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That’s a bug, not a feature. Some might (rightly) call it “the entire problem with the philosophy.”
Basically the basketball version of a warrior monk…
Very interesting and deep article…
It’s not just now; his rotations are perpetually “stripped to [their] bare essentials” along these lines and of course it’s “liberating” for Thibs. It’s a philosophy and a way of life. Him and his boys engaged in a single-minded purist struggle, with most of the emotion stripped out, against a fallen and corrupted basketball world.
Much preferable are the more universalist and open-minded people managers who can work with all types.
What are you, Ray Charles? Siakim vs JHart and The Maestro vs Hali kinda suck as matchups… length, etc.
It’s crazy that we have one of the best offenses in the playoffs and are losing because we can’t stop Indy from scoring. Just another typical Thibs postseason, his defenses alway fall apart when the hustle shit stops working.
‘Much preferable are the more universalist and open-minded people managers who can work with all types.’
Like that guy, what was his name… Fizdale!
Or the other 22 NBA coaches who are already in the off-season.
I haven’t read the article but I did read the anecdote about Josh being shown Yung Thibs and freaking out.
From the Department of Weird News,
Wemby’s last french team, Metropolitans 92, folded and will not play in the LNB next year.
They lost sponsors and city council financial support after Wemby departed and after a difficult season they quit.
P.S.
They’ll probably restart from the minor leagues.
if you think this Knicks team played emotionless basketball you didn’t want a single fucking game, lmao. You are more of a single minded maniac than Thibs.
Even Ray Charles knows Brunson and Halliburton don’t guard each other, Bob.
Game time’s still away,
may I ask what our in-house draft experts are thinking?
Who should we target reasonably?
Who are the hot candidates?
The Dayton’s big looks interesting, is there any above average shooter who could be available around our spots?
Anyone see that Lebron watched the Cavs game with a bottle of wine under his seat? Is that how they serve everyone courtside or is that what you can do when you’re the king?
Max, while I’ve been a proponent of us just making our draft picks for once, the more I look at the prospects for this draft, the more I think we might be better off if Leon again kicks one of the cans down the road. The odds of getting two useful role players in this draft seems unlikely, and if we keep our remaining second rounder and don’t put stupid protections on any future deals, I’d rather save one of these picks for later.
My crackpot theory is that having 2 picks in a draft where nobody can seem to agree on who is good makes it more likley we luck into a better player at the end of the draft than normal.
If Thibs ran Jimmy Butler into the ground, then the ground isn’t such a bad place to be.
What are you, Ray Charles? Siakim vs JHart and The Maestro vs Hali kinda suck as matchups… length, etc.
https://youtu.be/MpUWrl3-mc8?si=Ibpxxak3AYUVR1Lv
Anyone see that Lebron watched the Cavs game with a bottle of wine under his seat? Is that how they serve everyone courtside or is that what you can do when you’re the king?
the latter
The hopeless mismatch referenced above isn’t Hali vs. Brunson, it’s Hali vs. Brunson with one of his feet substituted for a cinderblock. Despite all the excuses deftly set up for him by the injury report, Hali’s ailments look to be purely illusory.
Brunson has the opposite thing going where the injury report shows nothing while the actual injury looks progressively worse with each passing game. He’s gonna be moving like Cole Aldrich tonight.
Funny, Hubie…. those were the precise matches you listed in your post….
Brunson / Halliburton
Donte / Nembhart
Deuce / Nesmith
Hart / Siakim
Hartenstein / Turner
I don’t see the hopeless mismatch.
Their bench is gonna beat us but our best should beat their best.
>>>BPL
And…. by the way…. you don’t see any problem with J Hart vs Siakim???
But our best is crippled, Bob. I’m surprised to see the guy who diagnosed Brunson’s peroneus longus thing from a distance dismissing what looks for all the world like a broken foot that Brunson is playing on…
Do you know something we don’t that makes you expect he’ll suddenly look like himself after the absolute nosedive in mobility he’s shown the last three games?
I’m honestly worried he’s Derrick Rosing himself in slow motion out of sheer toughness and devotion to Thibs’ cause…
Doogie! For how long will you let poor Pascal’s name be butchered? 😉
Thanks Alan, I understand your point but at the same time can’t wrap my head we can’t use our picks to switch from Jericho Sims, Charlie Brown and DaQuan Jeffries to something useful 🙂
We could also replace some/all of them with cheap free agents who might actually be able to play in case of emergency, Max. If Katz is right that Leon has in the past has used a few end of the bench spots as favors to agents to help grease the skids for future deals, I would hope that he would look on this playoff run as a learning experience for why he should limit that to one at most. (And not even that if we re-sign Archie again in the offseason.)
I doubt I’ll actually go ahead with my last-minute ticket plan, but I’m at least going to swing by Penn 6 on the way home to meet Jonathan Macri in person. I am, as far as I can tell, much taller than him.
In past seemingly weak drafts, the value did tend to come from the back end of the draft, so I think there’s something to be said for that.
Jesus, Bob. All those times they said it was Brady vs Manning did you think one of them was playing safety? I know you want to fight with people, but come on. You’re trying too hard.
I know a guy who was at the Knicks Wall when Macri would write for them who has mentioned a few times how short Macri is
100%
I could answer that but it would take us to the dark side of the business of basketball. Like in Orwell: all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others. I better stop here.
Having 12 or 15 functional rotation players on your roster sounds great but i don’t think it’s possible or common in the nba mainly due to salary cap, player’s expectations and coach’s strict rotations.
Woodson’s team used a few toolsy vets and seemed quite deep but didn’t last.
Wouldn’t mind replicating that next year
OG has progress to light on-court work now!
He may well be ready for Game 1 of the Indiana/Boston series.
Back from the dead, @Max.
I know, man. The Siakam thing is killing me. And not softly.
Jesus, Doogie, I thought I was joking with the gun and the rope thing. All okay?
Nah. NBA finals. Maybe
I’m a few drinks away from being in a coma. Let’s fucking goooooooo!
All is good, Raven. I’m just playing along with what I quickly peeped on this forum over the weekend. Thanks for asking.
Nice try, pal… what is that smell…. it is the odor of mendacity. I commented on precisely what you wrote and now we are at Brady vs. Manning! Well played. By the way, do you think the J Hart/Siakam match up is a strong one for the Knicks?
I want to fight with people? LOL check your post count….