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  • ‘So much greatness’ — Brunson’s 61 can’t conquer Wemby (40-20), Spurs – ESPN
    [ESPN] – Sat, 30 Mar 2024 04:08:00 GMT
    1. ‘So much greatness’ — Brunson’s 61 can’t conquer Wemby (40-20), Spurs
    2. NBA: Victor Wembanyama scores career-high 40 points in San Antonio Spurs victory
    3. Knicks Jalen Brunson drops 61 points in OT loss, 1 shy of Carmelo Anthonys franchise record
    4. Victor Wembanyama becomes first rookie with 40-20 game since Shaquille O’Neal as Spurs outlast Knicks in OT
    5. Jalen Brunson’s 61 points not enough as Victor Wembanyama’s 40-20 effort propels Spurs past Knicks in OT


  • Donte DiVincenzo breaks Knicks’ single-season 3-point record – New York Post
    [New York Post] – Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:30:15 GMT
    1. Donte DiVincenzo breaks Knicks’ single-season 3-point record
    2. Donte DiVincenzo breaks Knicks record for three-pointers made in a single season
    3. Final: Jaden Ivey and whatever’s left of the Pistons dismantled by the Knicks in NYC
    4. Knicks 124-99 Pistons (Mar 25, 2024) Game Recap
    5. Donte DiVincenzo is what we dreamed Evan Fournier was going to be


  • Isaiah Hartenstein is everything Knicks need (and more): How Nikola Jokic’s former backup became indispensable – CBS Sports
    [CBS Sports] – Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:36:45 GMT
    1. Isaiah Hartenstein is everything Knicks need (and more): How Nikola Jokic’s former backup became indispensable
    2. Knicks’ Isaiah Hartenstein has done the job filling in for an injured Mitchell Robinson
    3. Isaiah Hartenstein scores 20 points Thursday
    4. Analyzing Isaiah Hartenstein’s Impact on the Knicks – Last Word On Basketball
    5. Knicks’ Isaiah Hartenstein Set Up For Massive Raise This Offseason


  • NBA standings, playoff picture: Current postseason bracket, matchups as Bucks’ lead over Knicks shrinks to one – CBS Sports
    [CBS Sports] – Sat, 30 Mar 2024 10:39:07 GMT
    1. NBA standings, playoff picture: Current postseason bracket, matchups as Bucks’ lead over Knicks shrinks to one
    2. 2024 NBA Playoffs: Standings and Bracket Updates
    3. NBA playoff races to watch, predictions and first-round matchups we want to see
    4. A wild, wild race for No. 1 out West. Plus, is Joel Embiid returning a good idea?
    5. NBA betting: Which teams should you bet on in the Western Conference playoff race?


  • Knicks Bulletin: “You know, it’s like, lightskin? I’m brightskin. I’m above lightskin.” – Posting and Toasting
    [Posting and Toasting] – Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:00:00 GMT

    Knicks Bulletin: “You know, it’s like, lightskin? I’m brightskin. I’m above lightskin.”


  • It’s time for Basketball: Spurs vs Knicks – Pounding The Rock
    [Pounding The Rock] – Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:30:00 GMT
    1. It’s time for Basketball: Spurs vs Knicks
    2. Game Thread: New York Knicks at San Antonio Spurs, March 29, 2024
    3. New York Knicks vs. San Antonio Spurs Prediction, Preview, and Odds – 3-29-2024
    4. Knicks vs Spurs Predictions, Picks & Odds – 3-29-2024
    5. New York Knicks at San Antonio Spurs odds, picks and predictions


  • Louis Gossett Jr. Almost Played for the Knicks Before History-Making Oscar Win – PEOPLE
    [PEOPLE] – Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:44:15 GMT

    Louis Gossett Jr. Almost Played for the Knicks Before History-Making Oscar Win


  • Victor Wembanyama Highlights vs New York Knicks | 3/29/24 – NBA.com
    [NBA.com] – Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:18:35 GMT

    Victor Wembanyama Highlights vs New York Knicks | 3/29/24


  • Victor Wembanyama, Post-game vs New York Knicks | 3/29/24 – NBA.com
    [NBA.com] – Sat, 30 Mar 2024 04:42:12 GMT

    Victor Wembanyama, Post-game vs New York Knicks | 3/29/24


  • Knicks’ Donte DiVincenzo: Complements Brunson with 20 points – CBS Sports
    [CBS Sports] – Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:43:18 GMT

    Knicks’ Donte DiVincenzo: Complements Brunson with 20 points


  • Knicks’ Josh Hart: Posts usual well-rounded stat line – CBS Sports
    [CBS Sports] – Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:01:22 GMT

    Knicks’ Josh Hart: Posts usual well-rounded stat line

  • 41 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.03.30)”

    The complete lack of information about OG Anunoby’s injury is a lot more annoying after a loss.

    I think they thought that we could beat the Spurs without him. If he’s not back for OKC, I will be very concerned.

    To think that the Spurs will be adding 2 high lottery picks to their existing team is pretty scary.

    If he’s not back for OKC, I will be very concerned.

    Do we even know if he’s practicing and taking contact yet or is he just shooting?

    Perhaps because I did not watch the game, but I am taking a lot of positives from it based upon reading the game thread, articles. etc. We played like crap the first half–20+point deficit, giving up 70+points–and took it to the end of OT despite an absolute monster Wemby game and getting hosed by the refs. The team does not give up and finds a way. Loved the post game comments by JB and iHart.

    No one gives up in the NBA. This isn’t some kind of unique trait we possess. There’s an article written every week about how teams come back all the time now. Here’s the most recent one, it’s from when the Hawks came back from down 30:

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39698420/no-lead-safe-nba-big-comebacks-blown-leads

    It was updated from a previous version on March 11, after the Cavs had a huge comeback.

    We even saw the Grizzlies mount a huge comeback against us once and they’re tanking.

    I’m not taking any solace in this quality because it’s not a competitive advantage. Everyone does it.

    Well, that sucked. But Brunson is incredible. A joy to have on this team.

    Macri and Katz spent the end of Macri’s latest podcast this week trying to figure out a way to solve the problem of the team’s offense cratering whenever Brunson sits. Even in scenarios where the team is at full health, they couldn’t come up with ideal options. A real backup PG has to be a huge priority in the offseason.

    Losing to the Spurs is the most salient data point, it’s not good regardless of what else happens

    that was an incredibly fun (and frustrating) game, Brunson is really so much better than I ever hoped for. Not sure we should have gone so incredibly iso-Brunson heavy but on the other hand it was working

    No one gives up in the NBA. This isn’t some kind of unique trait we possess.

    First sentence is not true–I can think of a handful of games we played against non-tanking teams where they gave up. I was not implying that we are unique, just that last night hammered it home. And believing that you can find a way to win when you are not playing well is without a doubt a competitive advantage.

    We lost- but MAN did we get a treat watching Wemby and Brunson dominate. That was awesome..except for the loss part.

    This OG conundrum is starting to wear thin on me as well. Did they rush him back? Feels like they did- which worries me with Mitch. At least Mitch sat a little longer than OG did after medical cleared him. OG went right in and yelped 2 days later. I’d argue that wee need him more than Randle right now because his presence allows Randle more time to get acclimated with the tender shoulder. However, Leon has proven to be a shrewd negotiator. Maybe this lowers the price on OG in the summer?

    And one other thing- while the rotation is working, I’m not comfortable with Hart starting at PF and playing 40 minutes. With Mitch back, Thibs can afford to start Achiuwa there and bring Deuce off the bench with Mitch, Bogdanovic, and Burks or Shake. And honestly, I’d rather Shake get those Burks minutes right now

    And believing that you can find a way to win when you are not playing well is without a doubt a competitive advantage.

    But stats bear out this a characteristic of the modern game, not the New York Knicks. The league surpassed the record for most 20 point comebacks in a single season when there was almost two months left to play.

    Also if I’m not mistaken, we’ve only successfully come back from a 20 pt deficit once this year, in the IST game vs the Heat, thanks to a player who isn’t even here anymore.

    Part of the game thread positivity is people showing up after halftime, so the posts are responding to the comeback instead of the first half blowout. Out of the 161 posts ~40 of them were from the first half.

    Even in the 4th the defense couldn’t get stops. The refs bailed the Spurs out a number of times but for a team supposedly full of defensive stoppers, there wasn’t much stopping. If it was just a 7’3″ freak who can shoot and make Looney Tunes Space Jam dunks, that’d be fine, but their guards got a lot of penetration. Vassell, Branham, Keldon Johnson were getting to the basket or their spots in the midrange with ease. Their ORtg in the 4th was trash because we forced a ton of TOs & grabbed 100% of our defensive boards, but they also had a 70% efg% on top of their FTrate over 1(?!).

    The other factor that can’t be overlooked is Sochan going down at the half and not returning. Brunson torches Tre Jones and I’m not sure he’d have done the same to wannabe Dennis Rodman.

    As much as I’m going to complain about the FT disparity for the next week and a half, the Knicks were scared of Wemby and opted out of a lot of shots in the paint. It probably doesn’t cover the whole difference, but it’s hard to get fouled if you don’t even challenge the rim. On the flip side, it kind of makes Brunson’s scoring feat more impressive. He flipped in a lot of short push-shot/floaters instead of going for the layup.

    Oh and we went 1-5 from under the basket in OT. Hart looked better shooting while lying on the floor.

    Relatedly, Mitch can’t jump. His fg% is crap this year and he gets zero lift on his putback attempts.

    Hubie and EB are convincing me that my take on the game would be different if I had actually watched it. Fair point. They’ve also confirmed my decision not to watch it may have been a good one.

    Also if I’m not mistaken, we’ve only successfully come back from a 20 pt deficit once this year, in the IST game vs the Heat, thanks to a player who isn’t even here anymore.

    this is right but it’s pretty far from the best measure of letting go of the ropeness. here’s one thing they don’t teach you at vigilante apartment security school: the knicks have played only 65 offensive possessions all season down more than 20 points. that’s fewest in the entire nba. in fact the wolves are the only other team under 100. not only does that mean your comeback numbers are misleading because the denominator is low, it also could by itself be a more useful moxie proxy(tm) than actual comebacks, which are noisy as hell.

    here’s another nice one. the knicks have played 481 offensive possessions this year trailing by 15 or more points. in those possessions they scored 1.29 PPP and have an overall net rating of +26/100, best in the nba; there is a well known rubber band effect that favors the trailing team but this is more like a slingshot. these are pretty small samples but the evidence does seem to smile on the folklore here.

    The league surpassed the record for most 20 point comebacks in a single season when there was almost two months left to play.

    Very interesting stat—no idea that was happening (or even tracked) and assuming it was not cherry picked (eg least 15 point comebacks) supports your thesis.

    Then again (as E recently posited in another context) there is more than one way to look at that data point. We’ve had a record number of 20 point collapses. Poor coaching, too much load management?

    I wish I understood the mindset some of you watch sports with. Everything a negative. No joy in ever watching anything. Lol.

    How are you not a computer??

    the knicks have played 481 offensive possessions this year trailing by 15 or more points. in those possessions they scored 1.29 PPP and have an overall net rating of +26/100, best in the nba. there is a well known rubber band effect that favors the trailing team but this is more like a slingshot. these are pretty small samples but the evidence does seem to smile on the folklore here.

    Yeah, that’s pretty convincing.

    Although if last night is an indicative case, there could be a logical reason for this: Jalen Brunson is the slingshot.

    Let me make a wild guess: is Jalen Brunson’s PPP is somewhere around 1.29?

    If so, that would indicate that rather than some sort of inherent elasticity, we tend to amass deficits when he sits and he tends to come back before they get out of hand.

    There was definitely a strong Wemby deterrent effect leading to some of the disparity, but I was personally outraged on Brunson’s behalf on 5+ plays.

    I mean, what the hell? That’s just not how the game was called on the other end.

    It was a great game to watch, we have a special one, and Wemby is somehow gonna exceed the hype. But losing was very annoying.

    At least it sounds like we emerged in one piece health wise.

    Next 5 games we play OKC, Miami away, Sacto, Chicago away and Bucks away.

    Cavs play 5 straight road games vs. Denver, Utah, Phoenix, Clippers and Lakers

    We go 3-2 and the Cavs go 1-4 and we’d be in great shape to hold the 3 seed. Critical stretch ahead…

    I was in standstill traffic after a detour into the bowels of the Hunt’s Point section of the Bronx and didn’t get to watch until there was like 8 minutes left in regulation. Gotta hand it to the Spurs, every time we had them on the ropes, they had an answer.

    Wemby’s height and length are unfair. That tip-in over iHart was ridiculous. And if that off-the-dribble 3 at the end of the shot clock becomes a thing, game over.

    Sort of a terrible loss, but as Thibs says, either you win or you learn. The execution in the first half was terrible, and SA came to play, Pop has them playing hungry. Good for them.

    Clearly we ain’t going anywhere without Julius and OG. Watching Brunson by himself out there is entertaining, but he had very little left in OT and no one else stepped up. That open 3 at the end of regulation by Deuce bugged me, not even close, gotta get that one in the cylinder at least.

    Brunson shot 6 free throws on 47 shot attempts, I mean… if his name was Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and he flailed his head and arms on every hit he takes, he would have 12 more FTA at least.

    It is what it is, bad loss, team played badly, but not the end of the world.

    Wembanyama is surreal to watch, we say a lot that a player is a sure thing if he doesn’t get too many injuries but he’s the hors concours of this category really. The word generational gets thrown around way too much in NBA discourse but he absolutely is a generational talent.

    How are you not a computer??

    I for one welcome our ptmilo overlords

    The thing that bothers me the most about the OG situation is that they brought him back with some glorified band aids on his elbow instead of a proper sleeve with some protective padding. I hope they do a better job with Randle.

    I know many many like I- Hart and Mitch, but getting a Center with some scoring skills [in the draft maybe] needs to be a priority for Leon Rose.

    I’m not an all out Wemby fan boy yet. Just because we couldn’t defend him and he was getting a favorable whistle for anyone, let alone a rookie, doesn’t mean he’s the next Kareem. He’s obviously very good even at this stage, but I think the Knicks defense has a lot of trouble with stretch 5s. We have too many holes in the perimeter defense to not have a rim protecting C helping (could have used a healthy Grimes). Once they got penetration and help came from somewhere else, that opened things up for a good passing team to find open player. The Spurs were passing very well last night. That’s not surprising given they are coached by Pop.

    Wemby is definitely not the next Kareem. He’s the first and only Wemby. Barring injury, he will be a top-10 player of all time, and maybe the GOAT before he’s through. Keep in mind that Kareem was a sophomore at UCLA when he was Wemby’s age.

    At worst Wemby will be a top-5 defender in the league, by which I mean he’s already probably top-5.

    DARKO currently has him as tied for 8th best player in the league with Kevin Durant.

    Wherever he is, the floor is very very high.

    Brunson is really so much better than I ever hoped for.

    So many of us thought Brunson was the obvious move in free agency, but yeah, I don’t think anyone expected him to become this good. I know I didn’t, and I was pretty confident he was perfectly poised to become “the guy” on a team. It’s just that, you know, “the guy” has very many varieties (Jerry Stackhouse was “the guy” for a time).

    Brunson’s play changed The Knicks timeline dramatically. We are in win-now mode for the rest of his prime as long as he remains healthy. I think that he is the main reason for most of the recent roster moves.

    Medical report stuff:

    * Mitch is questionable
    * iHart and Burks are probable
    * OG is out again. Sigh. (Frank thinks it’s bursitis, FWIW.)

    But also:
    * SGA is doubtful. So there’s that.

    * Mitch is questionable

    Ruh roh.

    I didn’t see the game last night but I read the comments. You guys all talking about him limping noticeably. Please tell me he was immediately pulled from the game upon injury and not allowed to run up and down the court for multiple possessions with a limp.

    bursitis doesn’t sound fatal, painful and persistent maybe…

    sounds like though it can possibly damage the ligaments/tendons in the area…

    that is not good…

    three weeks til the playoffs…he’s already been resting the last week or so…

    hopefully he can give it a go when the playoffs begin, maybe 24 minutes or so…

    otherwise, he probably needs to rest it for the next few months, and then manage it going forward…

    when he does play again, add in my vote also for getting OG some better protective elbow gear…

    that attempt at a mere tape job initially, is a bit telling on the medical/training staff…

    Please tell me he was immediately pulled from the game upon injury and not allowed to run up and down the court for multiple possessions with a limp.

    Breen & Clyde made comments on multiple possessions about how Mitch was still limping. He was in for a long time after, Precious was inserted with 13 seconds left in OT

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