The Knicks head to San Antonio hoping to end their recent skid and get back to .500 playing against a rebuilding young Spurs team, who only has a single player 30 or older (and that player, Thaddeus Young, will likely be dealt as soon as they can).
Nerlens Noel will start tonight in place of Mitchell Robinson, because that‘s the problem with the team, what order Noel and Robinson get into the game.
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187 replies on “2021-22 Game Thread: Knicks @ Spurs”
Although i’m now fearing that he doesn’t end the Charlie Ward curse, i voted on “sign him for less than the max”. I still believe he can turn this around, it’s just that the odds are not very good.
Let’s gooooo, Knicks!
Puttting out good energy that we sign him for less than the max and after that he truly breaks out
One guy i wish we had is Jakob Poeltl, who’s having an insane defensive season… but we’ll always have the Bargnani memes to remember I guess.
From the last thread:
Sir Charles is throwing shade at KP for playing hard 2 out of every 6 games. Shaq adds that he settles for bad jump shots too much.
Let’s go Knicks! No excuses!
Noel in for Mitch.
This is a good measuring stick game.
Over/under on McDermott threes?
Derrick White career game
Poetl gives off a bit of a David Lee vibe…
Fournier was wide open under the basket but decided to throw the ball out to Noel for a guaranteed turnover.
RJ!
Noel dribbled 7 times more in one possession than Mitch dribbles all game… thats gotta be good for something ?
RJ made a basket… stop the count!
RJ mesmerized by the ball’s trajectory toward basket… decided not to get a rebound…
Burks went wrong way on rotation… mental mistake
RJ can shoot again.
RJ!
Poeltl is on track to have a pretty amazing career for a throw in. If he plays defense he has something not in common with David. I love you David.
RJ off to a good start
Thibs LMAO
Wow, so many empty seats
Good ol’ Nerlens always good for at least one wtf fumble out of bounds
We would have drafted someone stupid like Taurean Prince
10,000 hours in the gym
Randle air balled his favorite shot over a smaller opponent. Fugly.
It was an assist to Noel. 😀
RJ looks quicker tonight…
NBA TV playing a 1980’s Knicks-Celts game at MSG that I was at!
Noel with a few fumbles but hes just a more active guy out there, so ill take the good with the bad…
we are really good at putting up contested layups that only hit backboard… uncanny
And there’s the brick layup we’ve grown to know and hate this season
4 plays in a row they challenged poetl..got nada…stupid plays…
God, we suck.
Keldon Johnson is like bizarro RJ.
got stuffed and followed up with the righty brick… oh yea…
Fournier freezing RJ out there…
Is five turnovers in six minutes good?
I miss the fun of last season. These games are no fun at all.
Sacre bleu, Fornier!
we are a poor offensive and defensive team… bottom line
im actually embarrassed to wear knicks gear sometimes….. i have a lot of it… it was easier to wear when we were terrible… now being bad with expectations, i feel like there’s no defense…
The opener was pretty fun. We have had a few games but definitely in a rut at the moment.
We are a ghastly half-court team. The Spurs look like ballet dancers compared to us.
I rest my case.
This game should be called Dumb vs Dumber
Mitch gets the 2.. but watching a 7 footer not play above the rim… especially one that was always above the rim… is this guy somewhat shot?
Obi time. Go get 20, Mr. T.
Nerlens Noel leading the team in assists is . . . suboptimal
Kind of early for the nightly Mitch injury
Does Mitch look visibly skinnier to anyone else?
Ridiculous shot from dougie buckets
Grimes with an unsuccessful 8.8 second appearance.
Grimes just Franked us. Good thing we took Obi out for the last 6. WT(actual)F?
yes mitch has def lost weight last few weeks
Mitch said today he’s down to 265 from 280 and he knows his conditioning sucks
More on that game, It was Christmas Day 1985 and my two fellow season ticket holders couldn’t go. Ewing’s rookie season vs. the mighty Celts on their way to a chip. Garden loaded with C’s fans, who were mocking the home fans when they opened up a huge lead in the third, only to leave in disgrace as the Knicks fans mercilessly heckled them on their way out. Lots of heroes, including Ken “The Animal” Bannister. It was one of the most enjoyable meaningless regular season games I ever attended.
holy shit this primo kid is young looking
Mitch looks much better tonight. Dominating underneath.
living dangerously and watching live…
it would be nice if the knicks won tonight…
2nd unit rules.
The competition at C is quite a big step down from the last 4 games…
Knicks really need to go young. Randle just clogs everything up.
our offense is completely 1 on 1 effort… its Thibs… the offense calls for passing the ball around setting screens that do nothing and eventually the guy who has the ball with shot clock winding down has to go 1 on 1…
Mitch has 6 offensive rebounds and no other Knick has more than 2 total rebounds
Robinson looking great so far
maybe thibs moved mitch to the second unit to get him going…
maybe we could rotate the whole first unit through there…
The Doug McDermott game. Not unexpected
mitch just posted a small???
Yeah, I like Mitch calling and getting the good entry pass from IQ. More please.
Can’t we just start this squad?
RJ3
Apropos of nothing, RJ seems to fit much more logically with this bench group
Obi showing what vertical spacing can do
toppin playing too well on offense, needs to come out…
RJ with the second unit really does make a lot of sense…
rose…feeling it
Mitch looks more spry than he has all season
I swear I just heard Mitch yell “Fuck you Z-man” after that last block (-:
Mitch with 10 boards in 11 minutes. He’s lit.
wow, it definitely kinda seems like the issue may be julius’ usage on offense…we need a starting point guard – badly…
If he keeps playing like this i’ll let him…
RJ’s best half in a long time
Such a relief, hopefully not temporary
Sims probably gives us more than Noel right now
rj must be on acid
Noel still doesnt look right… his first 2 minutes had good and bad… mostly good… but since coming back in, he’s not the guy… prior year noel challenges that baseline dunk…
RJ cooking
RJ been catching up on Knickerblogger threads the last couple of days.
late quarter collapse… coincides with certain players getting subbed in and out of the game…
Feels like we should be up way more than 6
Randle/Fournier/Noel have 4 points
thibs brings in starters …bye bye momentum
Spurs also shot really well
Not watching but I do think the Mitch/Noel swap makes a lot of sense. Nobody on the starting unit is gonna lob it to butterstumps and butterstumps doesn’t need to catch lobs. The second unit throws lobs and Mitch in theory can catch them.
Pre-occupied with work and the Ashes, but looks like RJ wanted all that Thibs smoke. Looks like Mitch has benefited from some minutes off the bench as well.
Liking the changes to how we defend FTs. Spurs shooting 56% from the line.
I can tell Doncic played in spain because he just matador d’d the shit out of James Harden…
On the Spurs blog someone definitely posted “Of course RJ Barrett had to pick this game to stop sucking”
Tingis Pingis just fucked up a sure and 1…
RJ does shoot better in empty stadiums.
gosh f brooklyn and f dallas
Did we trade RJ yet?
look at that ball move
RJ Barrett continues to have two modes: unplayable scrub and budding star
Man that’s a dumb shot by TH2…
Clankxton…
In case it wasn’t obvious, my earlier RJ trade proposal was just Jackson-esque 11-dimensional motivational chess
I suspect no matter which players are starting our second unit will look good. We seem to have a relatively flat talent distribution. No matter who is in the second unit they will be better than a lot of other teams second units. Whereas no matter who we put in the first unit, they don’t outclass other team’s starters.
Man that sucked
We’re really really good at quickly blowing big leads
what is burks doing there… ?
RJ basically is just shooting well from 3, if he was 2-5 instead of 5-5 he’d just be having a decent game and we might be losing. Still nice to see though.
Julius and RJ on the break always nice to see
Now Randle is getting it going.
Julius playing wonderfully in the 3rd
I think he’s had a few drives, resulting in both scores and passes, that have looked much better than, well, anything he’s done of late
instead of going up 20…
Even when Randle makes a couple of shots I hate the shots he took.
I keep telling myself RJ will learn to finish at the rim eventually so not bothered by the hot 3 carrying for now
When you make 54% of your 3’s I believe your chances of winning improve somewhat
four…nye…ayyyy
We should really be up more than 10
Mitch’s transition from crazy athletic plays to his weird penguin walk always makes me laugh
The old back trick there
Did Clyde just say “the old back trick?”
Mitch looks much better tonight. It could be the matchup, but he looks way healthier and more athletic.
obi throwing up ufo’s
Oh shit I spoke too soon.
I don’t like how that looked…seemed dirty…
That hit on Mitch should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct
Come on, man. He’s been sitting so long …
he shot a freaking airball
Should probably get Mitch out of there
You’re not wrong. Obi just needs our support 😉
Suprised they didnt look at a flagrant on the Mitch fall
Once Mitch sits he will stiffen up so might as well play him until he’s done…
UFO-B
Nice to see a bounce back from RJ. Hopefully it continues.
with the roll
Not a good pass there Mitchell
You all know the Knicks are gonna make us sweat this, right?
Mitch trying to be Jokic….needs a bit more work…
Hopefully the Knicks will not have a Nepo-like collapse here.
Are we gonna see important 4thQ free throws from Julius?
Tough take from Obi. Like a completely different player this year
the ball is moving again
IQ! — yes please.
🙂
IQ doing some dumb shit out there…
RJ dagger
RJ IS BACK!!!!!
Any time the Knicks beat the Spurs it’s a small bit of revenge for 1999.
Well we won’t have to wait too long to see if RJ is really back, Pacers tomorrow night
And for some reason we play so much smarter and looser on the road. Maybe MSG should stop allowing fans in the building?
rj went from 31pct to 35pct from 3 in one game
RJ’s demise might’ve been greatly exaggerated.
Heeeees’s Baaaack!!!
Is it too early to enter RJ in the 3 point contest?
lmao
My RJ defense was quite timely. Who’s next?
My flame for Jock still burns
iso Randle to the bitter end
Spurs starters are out.
Julius has played 35 minutes.
Obi has played 13 minutes.
So did Thibs light a fire under RJ tonight?
“There are no two words in the English language more harmful than good job.” 😉
I’m sure that E will have some words of wisdom for how Thibs actually fucked this up…
Thibs comments about RJ and the benching of Mitch seems to have helped them both.
Hes been around too long he knows how to motivate his players
My highlight of the night was Clyde saying:
“Rose to Quickley to Frazier to Bradley for the basket.”
So true.
Thibs gave them a day off the other day… maybe it worked
When Kenny asked Clyde if any of the players in his day would work out after games like they do now or if they just showered and went home and Clyde replied “I went to the bar Kenny” was also great
good game from Julius-decent scoring, really good playmaking without his trademark turnovers.
That was vintage Clyde for sure.
vintage frank tonight as well
Mitchell Robinson scored on a post up play tonight. “So nice, we say it twice.”
Spurs were what the doctor ordered apparently. Great to see signs of life from ArrrghJay and few dumb turnovers from Randle. Mitch may have quietly been the MVP of the game — let’s see how long his benching lasts 🙂 Noel still has little hands of stone, but not much else to complain about tonight. Great win.
It doesn’t matter which of Mitchlens starts when they split the minutes. I’m obviously a big Mitch fan but if Nerlens is playing 2 minutes more than him it’s not a big deal, especially with Mitch not being in great shape. Nerlens is pretty solid himself.
I’m only half-joking when I say this team has been bing bong cursed, in the way they’re trying to hard to get the crowd hyped at home and are not letting the game flow naturally.
It’s a bit of a narrative, but there’s some sense to the story arc that Noel is a good fit with the starters from all the time last year getting to know the guys, and the fact that offensively he’s nothing, which is what the starters do to the center position regardless (see Mitch’s number of shots the last few games). Meanwhile the kids (is Rose a kid?) get out and run, which suits Mitch well, and they like to pass, and there’s lots of kinetic movement so Mitch is often ready to clean up missed shots.
I like Nerlens but would look to move his contract ASAP. Being such a liability on offense kills us sometimes.
@KevinR Agreed. He’s the one I’d be looking to package in a trade for Myles Turner.
Even with Noel the starting five is a weird hodgepodge. There’s no foot speed in that starting five and Noel is an even more limited offensive player than Mitch because of the butter stumps.
I think you could hide a center like Mitch or Noel better in a lineup where you have some speed to create scoring opportunities, but in this starting lineup with Burks-Fournier-RJ-Randle all being relatively slow-footed players, the 4-on-5 feel of the Knicks’ lineup just gets exacerbated. The pieces on this roster are not really a very good fit. Moving Kemba out and putting Burks in the starting lineup was almost certainly a net positive, but it’s still a fugly offensive lineup.
The ideal scenario would be that Turner is the Noel with offense, which would be a perfect fit for us really. I just don’t know what we can offer to Indiana that doesn’t include Barrett and that they would accept.
If RJ & Randle are starting to snap out of their slumps, then Noel will be fine offensively with the starters. RJ & Randle can usage soak and Noel can focus his butterstumps on defense. Randle is the de facto facilitator and his assists at the rim are almost nonexistent, which hurts Mitch but helps keep Nerlens TOs down.
We have the 15th best offense in spite of Randle & RJ, if they turn it around that ranking could skyrocket regardless of how inept Noel is offensively. If they don’t turn it around, then the lineups really don’t matter.
From Katz. Doesn’t cover nearly all of RJ’s slump, but it’s an excuse for at least the final stretch of it. Maybe.
I’m not getting all that excited about this win, SA is a young, rebuilding team heading for the lottery and any decent team should beat them. Tonight is a better test. But seeing RJ and Randle hit shots is definitely nicer than the alternative.
Does anyone know what’s going wrong with Indiana this year?
Also not getting too excited about the win, but it’s nice to have a win regardless.
No surprise that the defense and Mitch look better when playing against slow-footed traditional centers, but hey, beggars can’t be choosers.
Definitely thought Mitch looked a lot better with the bench crew. I don’t necessarily blame him for putting on weight/muscle given he couldn’t do much on an injured foot other than lift weights and eat, but clearly it was the wrong thing to do.
Nice to see RJ hit shots, but 4-12 from 2 point range remains worrisome. I am just not sure if you can teach / work on touch around the rim. He gets there without much of an issue, but just can’t put the ball in the basket except on actual right-at-the-rim layups.
I actually really enjoyed Randle’s game last night – he did sort of the LeBron thing where he spends most of the first half trying to get other players baskets, then turns it on in the second half when the defense is expecting him to pass. I’m not sure what was up with his sudden decrease in 3PA but happy to see him fire away last night.
Yeah, this game was more of a “It would be really bad if you didn’t win it” sort of thing, where yes, you are glad that they did win a game they had to win, but it doesn’t say as much as a nice win in Indy would. So let’s hope that they show up tonight!
I still very much enjoyed the game, though!