Knicks Morning News (2016.08.07)

  • [NYTimes] U.S.A. Basketball Is Already Cruising in Rio. Now, to Take the Court.
    (Saturday, August 06, 2016 3:55:06 PM)

    The men’s and women’s basketball teams are again avoiding the athletes’ village at the Olympics for security reasons, although other high-profile athletes do not share the concern.

  • [NYTimes] Basketball: U.S. All Business in Rio Opener Against China
    (Sunday, August 07, 2016 2:42:28 AM)

    Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump may fret about the United States’ trade imbalance with China but on the basketball court it is all one way business, as it was again on Saturday as the U.S. opened the Olympic tournament with 119-62 thrashing.

  • [NYTimes] Highlights-Day One at the Rio Olympics
    (Saturday, August 06, 2016 7:42:35 PM)

    Latest news from the first day of competition at the Rio Olympics on Saturday (all times London time):

  • [NYTimes] Basketball: Jovial Bogut Shines as Australia Beat France
    (Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:27:34 PM)

    Andrew Bogut’s complaints over his Rio accommodation have received more attention than his troublesome knee but both seemed fine on Saturday as Australia opened the Rio Games men’s basketball tournament with an 87-66 win over France.

  • [ESPN] Spike Lee trying to recruit Ray Allen to the Knicks
    (Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:58:10 PM)

    Spike Lee trying to recruit Ray Allen to the Knicks

  • [ESPN] Allen talks NBA comeback with Celtics, Bucks
    (Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:40:41 PM)

    Allen talks NBA comeback with Celtics, Bucks

  • [SNY Knicks] Anthony makes Olympic history in Team USA rout
    (Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:46:15 PM)

    The Knicks’ Carmelo Anthony makes Olympic basketball history in Team USA’s rout of China.

  • 33 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2016.08.07)”

    Much luck today to our new members of the Knicks Billy Hernangomez and Kuz!

    Hopefully Hernangomez gets some good minutes in the Olympics. I think France ultimately wins the silver with their big 3 of Parker, Batum, and Gobert, but watching Spain and France is probably going to be the most entertaining game in the Olympics this year.

    Hopefully Hernangomez gets some good minutes in the Olympics. I think France ultimately wins the silver with their big 3 of Parker, Batum, and Gobert, but watching Spain and France is probably going to be the most entertaining game in the Olympics this year.

    WHAT??? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME USA vs CHINA OR NIGERIA ISN’T GONNA BE THE MOST ENTERTAINING GAME???? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRICKIN MIND???!!! YOUR TS% ON THAT PREDICTION IS REALLY TS(total shit or totaly straw or tatas saggy)!! lololololololol..I kid I kid. Spain vs France is must see. As good as Spain and France are, with the way Team USA seems to be locking in defensively, I don’t see either team being as much of a challenge as they have been in the past. If and when Spain and France matches up..I will be glued to the tube

    He mosey around after he pass the ball. He set a non impactful moving screen followed by another one where he was late getting to the spot. The latter one was called

    Just got called for a loose ball foul on rebound. Suspect call. His butt back on the pine

    Olympic play is heavily a seniority thing so I don’t think Hernangomez will see many minutes.

    Willy has good size and moves well but no lift.

    Kuz looked less good than I had hoped.

    Sabonis looked very good.

    FWIW, I don’t think either of Willy’s fouls were legit.

    LOTS of griping by players on both sides at the refs, 2 technicals for Croatia already, too.

    Willy has good size and moves well but no lift.

    Kuz looked less good than I had hoped.

    Sabonis looked very good.

    So intriguing… so much intrigue… what’s there not to like? The intrigue!

    It’s funny how it’s so much easier to be optimistic about players until you actually see them play, eh?

    THE UPSIDE, GUYS!

    THE UPSIIIIIIIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    But you would concede that international signings like Willy Herangomez, Maurice N’dour and Mindaugas Kuzminskas are moves the Knicks should be looking to make as well as the UDFA signing of Ron Baker. I’m not sure these are the moves you can criticize.

    Your favorite poster and all around handsome nice guy DRed is well named, because earth’s yellow sun really did a number on him today

    But you would concede that international signings like Willy Herangomez, Maurice N’dour and Mindaugas Kuzminskas are moves the Knicks should be looking to make as well as the UDFA signing of Ron Baker. I’m not sure these are the moves you can criticize.

    Or praise.

    Jackson has been in this bizarre ‘win now’ mode where there is no money left for anything but rejects and suspect obscure talent. The stashing of euro players is a forced move. What else could be done with 5% of the cap reserved for more than half of the roster?

    It’s cool having a couple of longshot type guys at the end of the bench, because hey, you never know, you might get lucky. The Knicks have something like five of those guys who will probably make the roster though: Willy, Mind Dog, Plumlee, Ndour, Baker or whatever other Hail Mary type guy locks down that 15th spot.

    Prediction: too many bad players will end up playing too many minutes.

    Come on Knights who always say No. Willy played four minutes today. You can’t be serious. Why don’t you find another team to root for?

    He only played 4 minutes because he sucked! His whole country is embarrassed; Portugal too.

    What up w/ Jose not getting any run?

    It’s not like this team hasn’t had good luck finding obscure talent over the last few years.

    Phil should be credited for signing players that have a puncher’s chance of outperforming their contracts rather than signing the Dahntay Jones’ of the world at the vet minimum for the end of the bench. It’s a move at the margins, but a smart one. It’s more Phils big moves and his overarching vision that is problematic.

    Singing all those dudes is good. Maybe they suck, maybe not. Who cares? Its the guys making the money that are problematic

    It turned I couldn’t watch the Olympic basketball. But I could read the box scores. As reported in this blog, the line for Hernangomez was uninspiring to say the least. But the line for Kuz was pretty good and he played 20 minutes or so. So I’d like to know what the posters on the blog found wanting in his play. Any comments?

    Neither showed much, both were on a short leash, especially Willy. Kuz played quite a bit but in the second half he didn’t do anything noteworthy except brick a # and get stripped on a drive. Willy threw a wild running hook, got blocked twice and was called for two fouls.

    I think France ultimately wins the silver with their big 3 of Parker, Batum, and Gobert, but watching Spain and France is probably going to be the most entertaining game in the Olympics this year.

    Let’s not forget Australia’s demolition of France’s big three with scrappy defence and beautiful ball distribution ;-). In all seriousness, France have probably has the best shot of causing some headaches with that starting 5. Their defence in their first match was pretty woeful, so they will definitely need to tighten that up.

    I watched both games to check out our new jewels.
    [+]Kuz defends pretty well, his shoot is pretty good and he looks as a trustable player who’s a steady member of his national team’s rotation.He goes after the off reb frequently while also being a 3p spot up shooter waiting for the pass most of times.
    [-]He’s not strong enough, his right hand dribble is not so good, he’s not leader material
    =Euro man’s MDunleavy/I liked his game
    [leather bracelet with silver clasp]

    Willy G despite playing many minutes on the preOlympic friendly ones he got only 1 chance to play to this game and showed energy but not smart playing.
    Spain’s loss may give him more chances to play but he has to get his A game in order to find minutes in Spain’s rotation.
    [clip on earrings for kids]

    Knew Your Knicks,

    Thanks for the write up. Kuz especially sounds like he could contribute right away, but we will see what happens in the next few games for both of them.

    I pay attention to the Chinese team, because I am in China at the moment and I still like Zhao Jiwei’s game. Take a look at the embedded clip in this Ringer article. Zhao completely fakes out Paul George who is defending him, beats him down court and makes what looks like a reasonable pass to the corner. Next year he’s available for the draft and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone drafts him (unless they assume all Chinese guards are lousy).

    https://theringer.com/china-cant-contend-with-team-usa-until-it-invests-in-a-backcourt-adc9cfec88c0?source=featured

    But I’m not sure you should pay much attention to the rest of the Ringer article. For young guards like the Chinese have, having a lot of turnovers against the sort of defense the US is playing is nothing to be ashamed of. But the big men on team are basically lousy. Yet the Ringer article claims that is the Chinese team’s strength. Their best big man by far is Yi Jianlian, and he’s 28, theoretically in his prime and yet not good enough to play in the NBA anymore even though he clearly got a good shot at it. If you watch the game focusing on the Chinese team you will see a lot of passes to Chinese big men who then just can’t do anything fast enough with the ball to make a difference. So I think the guards on the team are more interesting prospects than the big men.

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