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Sunday, December 16, 2018

2017-18 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Nets

The Knicks host the surprisingly decent so far Brooklyn Nets, who have a winning record while the Knicks are still trying to get their first win.

Jarrett Jack is somehow starting tonight. D’Angelo Russell returns for the Nets.

This should be at least a fun game to watch!

Let’s go, Knicks’ tank!

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113 comments on “2017-18 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Nets

  1. chrisk06811

    I guess win or lose, coach is safe!!!!

    because if I was fighting for my job, no way I start Jarrett Jack at PG

  2. hornyKnickfan

    It’s nice to have Clyde back.
    Why can’t the team hire him to mentor Frank?
    I don’t even care that he can’t pronounce his name.

  3. BigBlueAL

    Are the Knicks ever going to hire a coach who teaches the team the importance of guarding the 3pt line??

  4. hornyKnickfan

    That was a good example of what Frank can do. Dinwiddie got inside but was met by Frank’s length and willingness to challenge the shooter, leading to a poor shot attempt.

  5. stratomatic says you can't play defense if you keep getting players than can't defend

    How soon can we unsuccessfully try to trade Timmy?

    Next rebuild is scheduled for 2021.

  6. stratomatic says you can't play defense if you keep getting players than can't defend

    Nitti may be the 2nd best player on the team by the all star break.

  7. Bruno Almeida

    Frank is a defender, truly. Pretty much the best defender at the guard position on this team already. Some nice passes and bad shots sprinkled here and there.

  8. GoNyGoNyGo

    What a nice pass! Effort on defense. I’ve already seen enough to like Ntilikina’s potential.

  9. Bruno Almeida

    This lineup has been a LOT better in terms of defensive intensity, Clyde made a very good point. Ntilikina and O’Quinn are making the difference on that end.

  10. BigBlueAL

    Wonder if Frank would be better off for now playing alongside another PG. He certainly seems like a very good passer but the penetration and playmaking off the dribble seems to be lacking right now which is understandable. Also his shooting is pretty atrocious at the moment so getting him off the ball would probably help with his shot selection.

  11. ClashFan

    Frank’s talent is obvious. The last thing to worry about right now is his shooting. Hopefully, that will come.

  12. stratomatic says you can't play defense if you keep getting players than can't defend

    Boyz, we have ourselves a PG!

  13. Knick fan not in NJ at this time

    Frank has already passed to three wideopen guys for easy shots. I think that’s more than any of our other point guards have done in a half.

  14. GoNyGoNyGo

    @42 – Just pair Frank with a shooter. His shooting doesn’t look good yet but this is his pre-season.

  15. stratomatic is sold on Frank!

    Frank can shoot. I’m not worried about it all. He’s just nervous. As soon as he drops a few and loosens up he’ll be fine.

  16. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

    Somehow I don’t think RHJ should be defending people six inches taller than him

    Relatedly: KP is actually shooting over smaller defenders and feasting

  17. Nick C.

    Isn’t it great when we have a rookie to feel good about? Frank really seemed to turn things around without making a shot. A few observant passes and some long armed defensive plays go far.

  18. ptmilo

    They should be using only Acy and Booker to guard KP. RHJ isn’t strong enough to make him uncomfortable and his length and ups are irrelevant.

  19. GoNyGoNyGo

    So we know that Frank has long arms that he uses on defense and he sees the floor like a point guard should. Am I correct that he hasn’t been on the floor with KP yet?

  20. ClashFan

    I’d like to officially apologize to Jarrett Jack. He’s got 8 and 5 in 21 minutes and is +11.

  21. thenoblefacehumper

    Frankie’s shot selection definitely isn’t what you want, but everything else seems to check out. Nice to finally see him play basketball.

  22. GoNyGoNyGo

    KP with a magnificent game but he’s winded and needs to sit. Frank should come in for his lock-down defense. I can’t believe I’m saying that already.

  23. Bruno Almeida

    Nice encouraging win! Definitely looking better, good contributions by Frank, McDermott and O’Quinn speciallly. KP couldn’t be guarded by the Nets smaller players and he exploited them hard.

  24. hornyKnickfan

    O’Quinn and Frank showed some nice chemistry out there. Oak seems to be an integral part of the team.

  25. Bruno Almeida

    I dunno, but I’m feeling the Frenchise as a nickname, just the right amount of hyperbole necessary.

  26. ClashFan

    I just want to point out that I predicted the Knicks to score 108, and they scored 107.

    We won’t talk about what I predicted the Nets to score.

  27. Ntilakilla

    My only regret is that a Doncic and Ntilikina backcourt may just be too awesome to become a reality.


  28. DRed

    I guess Frank wasn’t really good because he had 3 TOs and missed a bunch of shots, but he looked much, much better. Some very nice passes, active defense, didn’t look totally clueless. Not bad for his first real chunk of NBA play.

  29. nicos

    Nice game- made the decision to pony up for league pass easier. Frank looked good- two of his three turnovers were on soft entry passes which should be easy to correct and he showed nice court vision. I’d like to see him turn the corner and attack occasionally but hopefully that will come with time. I still expect them to lose the next three but at least they were enjoyable to watch tonight.

  30. Bruno Almeida

    It goes to show what having players that actually care on defense does. Of course it’s just the Nets, but they were scoring well before the Ntilikina / O’Quinn lineup started giving them fits.

  31. Henry George

    Frank made opposing PGs uncomfortable, making the D much easier for the other 4 Knicks on the floor. Handled the PnR on D fairly well, even against moving screens. In addition, he sees the floor really well, leading to his assists (and hockey assists too). Understands positioning, timing and leverage which helped him in the PnR on O to create openings without needing over-the-top athleticism. Not worried about the shooting; the form is there.

  32. DRed

    Nice to see Kristaps get some blocks, and it’s the 3rd relatively efficient 30+ point game he’s had this year, which is nice.

  33. The Glass Half Rebuilt

    FrAnK nTiLiKinA iS gOnnA Be tErrIbLe.

    Don’t doubt my boy! The most encouraging thing from the box score is KP went 1-6 and still dropped 30. That’s awesome.

  34. Ntilakilla

    Funny but a 19 year old rookie was a calming factor for his team tonight.

    Kid’s a winner. He was a winner in the EU18, he was a winner in the French League, and he was a winner for us tonight. His basketball IQ is so advanced for someone his age and he plays the game to actually put his team ahead instead of looking to fill up his box score.

  35. Bruno Almeida

    I’m pretty sure that Melo ball would have gone in if there wasn’t such an overwhelming gravity field on the floor.

  36. Frank

    Loved what I saw from Ntilikina tonight. He’ll have some bad nights but he is legit.

    Most impressive play of the night was KP’s up-fake, drive left, lefty dunk over two dudes. That’s a Giannis-like move. Give KP a couple more years of strength training…. could be nice.

  37. Jack Bauer

    Nice win, I thought the Nets were better than the Knicks by a lot. Not tonight. Another great performance by KP. Hats off to Frank, playing 23 minutes and playing well, a good sign. The tank took a hit, but it was worth it to see more than 8 minutes of Frank and watching KP dominate.

  38. The Glass Half Rebuilt

    The best nickname for Frank Ntilikina is the French Prints. It’s a double entendre and it fits with the whole Euro Squad thing the Knicks have going on.

  39. Bruno Almeida


    I really don’t get why contending teams or at least fringe playoff teams aren’t going for him. It must be the Knicks asking price or something. I don’t know if I’m a homer or anything but he looks to be precisely the sort of veteran, solid big man every playoff team needs.

    He’s better than dudes like Mahinmi?
    Jason Smith or Baynes for example and they’re getting relevant minutes for playoff teams.

  40. JK47

    A few nice flashes from Frank in this game. Obviously he’s still very raw and adjusting to the speed of the NBA but you can sort of squint your eyes and see how he COULD become a unique and effective NBA point guard. He has a certain kind of liquid, sinewy athleticism to him.

    I can’t say he’s an A+ prospect or a can’t-miss prospect, but his length and agility are quite tantalizing. And he does seem to have a naturally high B-ball IQ.

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