Knicks Morning News (2016.04.07)

  • [New York Daily News] Carmelo would ‘love’ to have input on Knicks next coach (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 06:31:39 GMT)

    Kurt Rambis may be the top choice for Phil Jackson, but Carmelo Anthony wants to be consulted before the next coach is hired.

  • [New York Daily News] Patrick Ewing makes pitch for why he should coach Knicks (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 00:56:10 GMT)

    Ewing, 53, is currently the lead assistant with the Hornets under Steve Clifford.

  • [New York Daily News] Rambis says he’s no Jackson puppet, Knicks lose to Hornets (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 00:18:20 GMT)

    Kurt Rambis reinforced his position as an extension of the Zen Master but declared he’s not attached to strings.

  • [New York Times] Fantasy Sports Are Illegal Gambling in Tennessee: Attorney General (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 07:27:35 GMT)

    Fantasy sports contests constitute illegal gambling under Tennessee law, the state attorney general said this week in an opinion about a multibillion-dollar online industry that has been challenged legally in several states.

  • [New York Times] Clippers Beat Lakers 91-81 in Kobe’s Next-To-Last Home Game (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 06:15:36 GMT)

    The Los Angeles Clippers took turns guarding Kobe Bryant, everybody wanting one last shot at the legend. When the buzzer finally sounded, they gathered for one last chance to shake their longtime rival’s hand.

  • [New York Times] Barea Delivers Again as Mavs Top Rockets (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 05:39:28 GMT)

    J.J. Barea added another clutch performance to the best stretch of his career Wednesday night and the Dallas Mavericks secured a crucial 88-86 win over the Houston Rockets at American Airlines Center.

  • [New York Times] Mavs Beat Rockets 88-86 to Keep Slim Lead Over Utah, Houston (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 05:30:38 GMT)

    If the Dallas Mavericks have to creep into the playoffs, they will. It’s part of a style change, as coach Rick Carlisle likes to call it.

  • [New York Times] Trail Blazers Defeat Thunder 120-115, Clinch Playoff Berth (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 05:30:36 GMT)

    If there was an award for the NBA’s most overachieving team, the Portland Trail Blazers would be heavily favored this year.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Sam Hinkie Quits as 76ers’ General Manager (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 04:36:33 GMT)

    Hinkie, who ran an analytics-minded front office, had his power weakened in December when the 76ers hired Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations.

  • [New York Times] Celtics Sweat Out Win Over Pelicans (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 03:57:27 GMT)

    Brad Stevens had a feeling his team, coming off a five-game western trip and battling for playoff position, could be in for a rough time Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] With James on Bench, Pacers Roll Past Cavaliers 123-109 (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 03:04:01 GMT)

    When LeBron James took a seat Wednesday night, the Indiana Pacers took a step forward.

  • [New York Times] Hornets 111, Knicks 97: Friendship Gives Rambis and Jackson a History, and Perhaps a Future (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 02:47:12 GMT)

    Before the Knicks fell to the Hornets, Kurt Rambis brushed aside questions about whether he was Phil Jackson’s leading candidate but spoke openly about his desire to remain as coach.

  • [New York Times] Celtics Fight Off Short-Handed Pelicans Late in 104-97 Win (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 02:30:52 GMT)

    Isaiah Thomas scored 32 points to help the Boston Celtics fend off the short-handed New Orleans Pelicans 104-97 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Pistons Use Strong Second Half to Get Past Magic 108-104 (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 02:18:48 GMT)

    Reggie Jackson scored 24 points and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope added 18 to help lead the Detroit Pistons to a 108-104 win over the Orlando Magic on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Walker, Jefferson Help Hornets Bounce Back, Beat Knicks (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 02:12:36 GMT)

    Kemba Walker scored 34 points, Al Jefferson had 24 and the Charlotte Hornets bounced back from consecutive losses to the Eastern Conference’s top teams by beating the New York Knicks 111-97 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Hawks’ Thabo Sefolosha Files Suit Against New York Police Officers (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 01:56:43 GMT)

    Sefolosha accused five police officers who arrested him outside a Manhattan nightclub last year of false arrest and excessive force.

  • [New York Times] With Wall Out, Sessions Steps Up, Wizards Beat Nets 121-103 (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 01:42:34 GMT)

    Ramon Sessions scored 18 points and had a season-high 13 assists while starting in place of the injured John Wall to help the Washington Wizards defeat the Brooklyn Nets 121-103 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Post] Fisher: Jackson ‘still learning’ how to be Knicks president (Thu, 07 Apr 2016 01:14:07 -0400)

    Derek Fisher took his little dig at Phil Jackson Wednesday, saying he's still a presidential pup. Appearing as an analyst on NBA TV, Fisher said: "I think a lot of people forget about Phil because of history within the game of basketball — one of the greatest basketball minds, coaches we've ever seen — there's…

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    50 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.04.07)”

    1. Finally done with the Woj Ewing interview. Brought tears to my eyes, if you all didn’t listen to it, please do.

      It’s so sad to me that most of the reason he left, and his strongest memory of that time, was of people in New York asking to trade him, get value for him, that we’re better off without him, and that he was sick of it. And that people in New York were so quick to forget positives, and his negatives were all people spoke of. New York can be such a cynical place, and I wonder if we are aware of how that affects people.

    2. I was at one of his last games as a Knick, and the nasty, racist shit people were yelling from the stands was appalling. He wasn’t good that yeast, but the lack of respect never mind appreciation was sickening.

    3. I recall those days vividly. It was the beginning of the end. That trade is what we can all point to as the reason the Knicks suck, even today. When I hear people asking to trade Melo, that’s all I can think about. I can see that happening in two years with him. He’ll be on the slippery slope of his career, we’ll trade him then for more bad contracts and the cycle will start over.

    4. Carmelo Anthony would like to offer his input on the New York Knicks’ decision of next head coach as well as which players they will pursue in the offseason.

      There has been growing belief that Phil Jackson prefers to retrain Kurt Rambis.

      Anthony is envious of the type of input LeBron James is able to give with the Cleveland Cavaliers.

      *macho man voice*

      ohhhhhhhh yeahh

    5. This is turning into quite a lovely clusterfuck. Things are about to get seriously Knicksy around here.

    6. Yeah, I mean when comparing Melo to other athletes, he’s really been a professional, head-down-get-to-work, and pretty pleasant guy. He’s never been malicious, caught up in drama, or made a misstep since he got here. He’s been treated horribly, and not to say that fans asking management to trade him ever since he got here is objectively wrong or anything, but it must get to him on some level. He’s really similar to Ewing in all of this.

    7. Ewing was a great player that was drafted by the Knicks and got us very close to the promised land with very little help. I remember at the end thinking the team was playing better with a small ball lineup. So I understand why some people thought Ewing was basically done at that time. But that’s no excuse for treating him poorly. He should have accepted a more limited role and NY fans should have worshipped him like they still worship Frazier and Reed. Ewing’s teams fell short, but it sure wasn’t because he underperformed or was overrated. He was great.

      Melo came in as part of a forced trade that gutted a young popular Knicks team. That immediately generated negative feelings among some fans. The general feeling was also that he was overrated and being overpaid which was hurting the team’s chances of rebuilding. The disappointing results (not all his fault) are also apparent. There’s almost no chance that Melo will generate the same kind of loyalty that other Knicks have unless the team somehow wins a championship with him still being a major piece. (and don’t forget that Frazier was traded at the end too).

    8. Anybody see the 2 guys NBA TV decided to have on last night to comment on the state of the Knicks? Derek Fisher and Isaiah Thomas. Pretty strange.

    9. @ Strat: not disputing any of that. Was really only relating Ewing’s sentiments and comparing to Melo. (However, I’ll never fault a player for pursuing his max $)

    10. So we’re hoping either Melo or Dolan (!) step in and save us from Rambis. Good times.

    11. I think Phil will get his way and Rambis will get a shot, but they’ll both be on a short leash. And then when the team comes out and sucks balls again next year, Dolan will can both of them.

      That seems like the most likely scenario to me.

    12. Ewing was a great player that was drafted by the Knicks and got us very close to the promised land with very little help. I remember at the end thinking the team was playing better with a small ball lineup. So I understand why some people thought Ewing was basically done at that time. But that’s no excuse for treating him poorly.

      Ewing was hardly treated poorly. He was properly compensated for his work here as a player. His sullen attitude with the press and the fans by extension and his John Thompson attitude gets him no bouquets after his usefulness as a player ended.

      He shot his way out of Dodge City here because on the last year of his 16,000,000 contract, he wanted an extension that he certainly wasn’t worth. He forced the trade to Seattle for essentially Glen Rice on a sign and trade for 4 years and Luc Longley on a crippled ankle which began the cascading events that led to the team’s demise.

      Also…. he’s now been an assistant coach for over a decade and no one in the NBA thinks he is head coaching material…. why on earth should the Knicks?

    13. Rambis is the perfect coach if the plan is to get Melo to request a trade and tank next season when we own our own first round pick!

      Machiavelli lives!

    14. As long as Dolan actually gets his way and we can grab Masai Ujiri I’d be happy. I’m just afraid that we’ll miss out on the opportunity of a decade and not sign Thibodeau. If we don’t grab Thibodeau, the Lakers or Nets will.

    15. @12 Ewing is probably not head coaching material or someone would have given him a shot. No disagreement there.

      I refer you to posts @1 and @2 about the treatment of Ewing at the end. That’s the way it was.

    16. Man, that Hinkle thing is kind of eye opening. Just bizarre. Not that I read the whole thing. Really too cringeworthy to get through more than 2 pages. But wow.

    17. @12 Ewing is probably not head coaching material or someone would have given him a shot. No disagreement there.

      Byron Scott is not head-coach material and he coaches a franchise worth $1,000,000,000. Let’s not appeal to authority on this one. Ewing might not be HC material, but NBA decision-makers don’t even know what HC material looks like.

    18. Player A: TS% .642 Rebound % 9.4 Assist % 13.1 TO% 14.6 Usage 16.9
      Player B: TS% .625 Rebound % 8.4 Assist % 13.0 TO% 7.0 Usage 15.5

      While you’d have to take player B because of the huge difference in turnovers, Sasha’s (player A) last 14 games as a starter looks an awful lot like Gallo’s (player B) first 14 games of the season before his shooting numbers fell off of a cliff.

    19. Even with all of the bad press around Hinkie, I’d take him right now over Phil. He’s already done a tear-down once. And this one (probably? hopefully?) has the one center-piece he never quite got in Philly (unless Embiid stays healthy).

    20. Even with all of the bad press around Hinkie, I’d take him right now over Phil. He’s already done a tear-down once. And this one (probably? hopefully?) has the one center-piece he never quite got in Philly (unless Embiid stays healthy).

      Yeah, people waaaaaaaaaay overrate how antagonistic people are over rebuilds when you have a star player that people enjoy at the center of the rebuild. OKC fans didn’t give a shit about rebuilding around Durant, the Cavaliers fans didn’t give a shit about rebuilding around Lebron and the Orlando fans didn’t give a shit about rebuilding around Howard. Heck, Minnesota fans seem to be thrilled about their team right now.

    21. Yeah, but Isola and half the Knicks fans have their panties in a bunch over the last 2 years under Phil and we DO have Porzingis. :-)

    22. Because Phil’s not doing a real rebuild. If he did, I don’t think he’d get any shit about a real rebuild around Porzingis. The fans love them their Porzingis (on that note, you can’t help but wonder how much his skin color helps him in this regard).

      The Knicks actually are in the worst kind of quasi-rebuilding. They’re not rebuilding, yet they suck as much as if they were rebuilding, so they get all of the negative aspects of the rebuilding process and none of the positive ones (well, other than Porzingis, of course).

    23. I’m old enough to have followed Willis Reed’s career with the Knicks and he’s often compared to Ewing as the two great Centers in Knick history. People bring up Willis’ two championships but he had a better surrounding cast and if bleeping Charles Smith could make a layup, Patrick might have had one title also. It was none the less my judgement that Willis was the better player. He was a great leader for his teammates and was all about the team. He also had to cope with Chamberlain and Alcindor/Jabbar and he would rise to the occasion and give those guys all they could take despite being a lot less physically gifted. A real and deserved MVP and this was noticed by his peers and followers of the NBA: In 1970, Reed became the first player in NBA history to be named the NBA All-Star Game MVP, the NBA regular season MVP, and the NBA Finals MVP in the same season. That same year, he was named to the All-NBA first team and NBA All-Defensive first team, as well as being named as ABC’s Wide World of Sports Athlete of the Year, and the Sporting News NBA MVP.
      Ewing seemed more concerned with Ewing. He kept demanding to be the highest paid Center in the League notwithstanding the presence of Olajuwon who regularly dominated Patrick.

    24. I refer you to posts @1 and @2 about the treatment of Ewing at the end. That’s the way it was.

      Hey, Ewing had to go through racial stuff in college so that was nothing new or particular to Knick fans. The Knicks went to the finals with Ewing in street clothes the year before he demanded the trade. The fans knew he was done. He shot his way out of Dodge City and the Knicks owe him absolutely nothing.

      While Jowles is correct about not bowing to authority, but I’m guessing there is a reason none of the other teams with coaching vacancies were ever hot for him. Put it another way. was there anything you ever saw from him that made you think, “This guy will make a great coach?”

    25. Yeah, but Isola and half the Knicks fans have their panties in a bunch over the last 2 years under Phil and we DO have Porzingis. :-)

      The only long term FA signing (excepting Melo) was a good value with Lopez. Drafting Porzingis was hardly a no brainer, but the homework was done and the correct choice made. He hasn’t succumbed to the siren’s song of trading #1 future picks (eg Bargs). I don’t get all the negativity.

    26. So because Ewing had to deal with racial crap in college its OK that he dealt with it in his final season with the Knicks?? At 37 yo he averaged 15 pts and 9.7 rebs per game his final season with the Knicks. He missed the first 20 games of the season rehabbing from his achilles surgery and played in all 62 games after he came back (he did miss 2 games vs the Pacers in the conference finals).

      The franchise has not been the same since he left. He said in the podcast he regrets asking for the trade and wishes he would’ve stayed and retired as a Knick. His speech to the crowd the night his number was retired was great, ever since he left he has said nothing but great things about the fans and the city. He deserves nothing but love and adulation from every single Knicks fan who was fortunate enough to watch him play.

    27. The fans love them their Porzingis (on that note, you can’t help but wonder how much his skin color helps him in this regard).

      Really, a 7 foot 3 inch 20 yr old who can move, protect the rim, shoot with range shouldn’t excite fans starved for a home grown player?

      Had KAT been drafted by the Knicks, I’m quite sure he’d be received pretty well here :-)

    28. So because Ewing had to deal with racial crap in college its OK that he dealt with it in his final season with the Knicks?? At 37 yo he averaged 15 pts and 9.7 rebs per game his final season with the Knicks. He missed the first 20 games of the season rehabbing from his achilles surgery and played in all 62 games after he came back (he did miss 2 games vs the Pacers in the conference finals).

      The franchise has not been the same since he left. He said in the podcast he regrets asking for the trade and wishes he would’ve stayed and retired as a Knick. His speech to the crowd the night his number was retired was great, ever since he left he has said nothing but great things about the fans and the city. He deserves nothing but love and adulation from every single Knicks fan who was fortunate enough to watch him play.

      Racism exists. I’m not sure what that has to do with anything you wrote.

      At the end he had an unrealistic view of his value. You mentioned he missed 20 games rehabbing from an Achilles injury. 37 yr olds with big bodies don’t generally do well moving forward off that type of injury. Interestingly enough, he didn’t play worth a crap his last two seasons and management’s assessment of his value was correct. Not telling him to shut up and collect his 16 million quietly was the Knick’s mistake and I don’t fault him for that. I don’t give a crap what he publicly says about the New York fans today. It literally is meaningless. What do you think he’s going to say, “A bunch of them are racist ass holes, but I want to coach the team anyway?”

      He was a terrific player who maximized his talents and I respect most of what he did here. Love is something I save for other things. But when you shoot your way out of town, don’t expect anything from your former bosses.

    29. speaking of KAT, I was having a debate on whether the Knicks would have made the playoffs with Towns. Do we think that’s true?

    30. He kept demanding to be the highest paid Center in the League notwithstanding the presence of Olajuwon who regularly dominated Patrick.

      And David Robinson

      And Shaq

    31. speaking of KAT, I was having a debate on whether the Knicks would have made the playoffs with Towns. Do we think that’s true?

      No way. They’d be better, though. But not playoffs better.

    32. Regarding the lessons of Ewing, doesn’t it speak more to trading your declining star player before he loses his value like Ewing did? Especially since the Knicks had just done that with Oakley and it had worked out fabulously.

      And those Knicks teams were at least good teams already, not shitty ones, where holding on to a star player at least had some merit to it.

    33. Regarding the lessons of Ewing, doesn’t it speak more to trading your declining star player before he loses his value like Ewing did? Especially since the Knicks had just done that with Oakley and it had worked out fabulously.

      And those Knicks teams were at least good teams already, not shitty ones, where holding on to a star player at least had some merit to it.

      Of course…. which is one of the reasons Jackson traded Chandler…. I just wish he could have gotten a little more value from him, but Calderon has played as well as Chandler this season :-)

    34. And those Knicks teams were at least good teams already, not shitty ones

      Excellent subposting

    35. I’m not sure you should ever trade the handful of franchise superstars that you might be fortunate enough to come by. I think the idea should be to get them to accept a diminished role at a reasonable price and ultimately retire gracefully from the team they were great for. Dirk and Duncan come to mind.

    36. The trick is the reasonable price. From what I remember Pat still wanted to get paid.

      Dirk and Duncan have also aged really well, which is the best case. Even most other superstars were shot by their age.

    37. Would the roster have been built different with KAT?

      You’d have to imagine so, yeah. But I dunno how much so.

    38. Just remember that Phil was seriously considering Okafor over Russell or Towns and everything about the quality of his player evaluation falls into place

    39. I’m not sure you should ever trade the handful of franchise superstars that you might be fortunate enough to come by. I think the idea should be to get them to accept a diminished role at a reasonable price and ultimately retire gracefully from the team they were great for. Dirk and Duncan come to mind.

      Good luck getting Melo to play for 5 M/yr like Duncan or 3 for 25M like Dirk :-)

    40. Holy shit Kevin Martin is a San Antonio Spur. You know who is a homeless version of Kevin Martin? Sasha Vujacic. We should dump Sasha and try to sign Kevin Martin this off season.

    41. Holy shit Kevin Martin is a San Antonio Spur. You know who is a homeless version of Kevin Martin? Sasha Vujacic. We should dump Sasha and try to sign Kevin Martin this off season.

      Kevin Martin is old and gets injured a lot. He is a good shooter, and gets to the line, but unless we get Durant in the offseason, i dont think it is a good idea.

    42. Just remember that Phil was seriously considering Okafor over Russell or Towns and everything about the quality of his player evaluation falls into place

      I think the Phil Jackson experiment/experience is a failure and that he should go, but the one indisputable thing he seems to have gotten right was the Porzingis pick. Everyone at some point or another thought Okafor > Towns or Russell. It doesn’t matter at all what he considered, it matters what he did. He could easily have taken Justise Winslow, Kaminsky, Trey Lyles, etc but he didn’t.

      (Truth is, you basically couldn’t miss with a top 10-11 pick, unless your pick got into 2 fights in one night or taped a teammate talking about infidelity and then broadcast it on the inter webs, but whatever).

    43. In general, I agree with you, Frank, that you can’t take the Porzingis pick away from him (sure, he might have chosen a different player if the Knicks picked #2 or #3, but they didn’t pick #2 or #3, so it’s a moot point), that that is his “one shining moment” as the Knicks GM (speaking of that song, I did a legend about how close that song came to being a FOOTBALL song and not a college basketball one, if people are interested). However, there is still a chance that he tried to trade the pick and the deal fell apart on the other end, not the Knicks’ end. That’s what Bill Simmons claimed earlier this season. Simmons might be full of it, so that’s why I’m still fine with giving Jackson pretty much complete credit for picking Porzingis, I just don’t know if I’d include “indisputable” about it, because of that very real possibility (that he tried to deal the pick but the other side bailed out on the deal at the last moment).

    44. I don’t get any of this Phil Jackson failure talk.

      1. Porzingis was great pick.

      2. Grant had a terrible start, but his numbers after the all star break have been way better. He’s going to be a good player.

      3. Lopez was a very good long term signing signing.

      4. Derrick Williams was fine at the price and was not signed long term in case it didn’t work out. We’ll see what he does, but I’m fine with him coming back and won’t be devastated if he leaves.

      5. Lance Thomas was fine at the price

      6. Sahsha was fine at the price (the coaches giving him too many minutes was a poor choice but he’s playing at least as well as AA now anyway) .

      7. Afflalo was a disappointment, but we are not committed to him long term and he’s probably going to opt out.

      8. Personally, I still think O’Quinn was good signing. Whether it’s attitude, laziness, coming to camp out of shape or whatever, he’s out of favor. But as far as I am concerned he’s fine for that price when he does play.

      To me, the only legit criticisms are not getting enough back in the Chandler and possibly Shumpert/JR Smith deals and his apparent insistence on the triangle and triangle coaches. But Rambis has not been made head coach yet.

      Let’s just say Afflalo opts out, we sign one really solid PG or SG and another EV+ role player or two, Grant takes another step forward from his 2nd half performance, Porzingis ups his TS% to 55% or better, and Jackson ultimately signs Blatt or some other experienced coach. There is nothing wrong with that scenario and I don’t think it’s a long shot. We’ll take another big step forward, still have upside from some of the young players, Calderon will be gone the following year, and we’ll have no really bad unmovable contracts in case a good trade or other opportunity comes up.

    45. I don’t get any of this Phil Jackson failure talk.

      If Phil never tweeted, interacted with Charley Rosen, or mentioned the triangle, there would be fewer complaints, and he would get credit for Porzingis and Rolo, but the remaining complaints would still be important. The Afflalo and Derek Williams signings were bad moves with no meaningful upside given the team’s situation. Meaningful deals were available, specifically the Sacramento cap space deal. Afflalo may opt-in, and that is an additional shitty risk for a move with no real upside (upside is Afflalo plays better this he did year and the Knicks are still not a playoff team; there was no world in which Afflalo became Batum). These mistakes aren’t huge absolutely, but they are bad indicators. We have no idea whether drafting Porzingis represents some repeatable skill — there is a ton of noise in the draft — but a blatant lack of awareness for the risk/reward positioning of your team is very repeatable.

      Giving Carmelo the no-trade clause is also on Phil, and that was a big mistake. I find it incredibly hard to believe he walks away from the money if Phil says “I don’t believe in no-trade clauses.” But even so, walking would have been optimal without the ability to mark him to market. Phil got lucky to get the 2nd worst record and #4 pick from what he thought was a playoff team. The accidental Hinkie. A normal expectation with a healthy Melo for that team had us lower in the lottery at the Mudiay, Kaminsky, Stanley Johnson level. It is not wise to bump your bad team lower in the lottery because you signed a good but not great 30 year old to a max contract that renders him inalienable.

      The Grant trade was great ex ante but saying he is going to be good doesn’t make him good. 350 minutes post AS break at 13/4/4 per 36 and 1.6 A/TO, .536 TS% is a big improvement, but hold off on the confetti. After all, you know who has been way better than that since the break? TH2.

    46. After all, you know who has been way better than that since the break? TH2.

      Atlanta has something with wings. Demarre Carroll played well in Atlanta after being a scrub and has come back to earth now. Bazemore sucked in GS and LA and now seems a really good player. Kyle Korver was a good shooter, but in Atl he became an allstar.

      I dont know, there’s something about the system or the players they have… which reminds me that i want no part of Bazemore in the offseason. Dont think he will be the same outside Atl.

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