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    I would love to know what people here think about what Leon and Brock think about going into the 2nd apron.

    I think they’ve had conversations with Dolan about it and expressed that there are significant basketball reasons not to do it — and that’s why Dolan expectorated out his “opinion” that it was “suicidal,” which takes it further than Leon/Brock would have said.

    But Dolan is motivated more by not cutting a check for the tax, which is why he moved on quickly from his poorly-understood “basketball” reasons and just got right to the real point.

    Which leaves the question of how the topic came up in the first place; the most likely possibility is that Dolan told L/B, “we can’t go into the second apron,” and L/B then said something like, “No biggie, boss; it has a lot of basketball penalties anyway.”

    Putting aside Dolan and L/B, the basketball penalties are in fact quite significant, much as they’ve been pooh-poohed in some segments of the Knicks’ shadow government around here. But YMMV on that one.

    Serious question: what are the chances the mayor is/was a knickerblogger? I set the o/u at 5%.

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    They were digging quarters out from under the couch cushions last year to stay under the SA and we all thought that was for basketball reasons, but it now looks very much like it was to comply with the owner’s edict.

    E, they literally weren’t allowed to go over the second apron last year because of the CBA. (I think it was because they used the TPMLE on Yabu, but it might be something else.)

    This year, if they try to stay under it, it’s a deliberate choice. Which would suck.

    E is so happy right now to finally have something negative to harp on.

    I mean the bigger question is run it back and go over the second apron or do you let some of the bench guys go to try and bring in youth through the draft, take a step back but maybe go for it again the following year?

    I’m not convinced we can’t win it all even if Mitch and Shamet go. Leon could pull off another mid season trade. Ring chasing vets might want to join us. Our young players could take a step forward.

    The future is not written. The last two months should have taught us all that lesson.

    Our starting five is the foundation and they are all in their prime and here the next few years.

    Except Alan did say last year was for bball reasons and you’re saying it wasn’t.

    I’m not convinced we can’t win it all even if Mitch and Shamet go.

    Of course they can.

    Except Alan did say last year was for bball reasons and you’re saying it wasn’t.

    He has the causal arrow backwards. They didn’t stay under the SA to use the taxpayer exception; they took advantage of the taxpayer exception because it’s one of the benefits of being under the SA.

    Without the owner edict, they might have chosen a different path than, “staying under the SA and using the taxpayer exception.”

    I will not let the second apron speculation/owner musings affect the immaculate vibes around the team and the city right now.

    Seriously, I’ve lived in NYC for 17 years now and there is only day when the vibes were remotely similar – Nov 7, 2020.

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    So sad to hear about GKHenman’s passing. He was always polite, and had optimistic takes about our future. I had great interactions with him, and will miss his comments.

    If i remember correctly he was here right until the end of the regular season or close to it. So unfortunate.

    I think you got to meet him before a game at the beginning of the season, wasn’t it Hubert?

    He was too young for this to happen, only 62. His last facebook pic was in Belize, and as Hubert told us he intended to go spend his retirement there. He clearly had good days ahead, but that’s how life goes, you’ll never know. Please be kind to one another and cherish what you have.

    About the Knicks, and although he didn’t get to watch us get to the promise land, i think by that time we all knew we were here to fight for it for some seasons, so i think the situation was good which is a lot better than we had the previous 2 decades counting 3 or 4 years from now.

    Rest in peace, Gary.

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    Last year, staying under meant adding a $5.5M player with the TP-MLE without losing anyone.

    This year, it means giving up a $15M player in Mitch and an $8-10M player in Shamet to sign a $6M player.

    For music lovers, reminder that Bagel Radio has a live show on Fridays 9a-5p ET, which then replays at 8pm, and again Saturday morning. Link at the bottom, or just use your search engine of choice to find it. It’s also available on Tune-In so you can ask your favorite corporate listening speaker (Alexa, Siri, Google, etc.) to play it for you.

    (The DJ is from Queens & is a Knicks fan, so this is relative. 🙂

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    Serious question: what are the chances the mayor is/was a knickerblogger? I set the o/u at 5%.

    Had to be a lurker. There is no way he could be a poster and we wouldn’t recognize his eloquence.

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    When Leon is first hired in 2020 by a team coming off a 21-win season, the overwhelming fan consensus is that he needs to commit to a full on tank & convert the existing roster into additional assets that could be used to rebuild the Knicks from the ground up.

    Instead, he hires Tom Thiibodeau who sez “Fuck the tank,” goes to the whip hand early & often and doesn’t let up until he cudgels this team to 41 wins in a COVID shortened season.

    Fans are furious, grouse about the uselessness of all those wins. The carping only grows louder when it becomes apparent the front office and head coach appear to be all in on winning as many games as possible, improvements being made incrementally by tinkering at the margins; the so-called “hybrid approach.”

    This is largely perceived as something that Dolan wanted done. Like it or not, Leon, Thibs et al are simply carrying out orders from the boss.

    Today, following five often inexplicable years featuring incinerated draft picks, paper clip trades and largely defying the conventional wisdom, the Knicks find themselves champions of the NBA.

    The fanbase is exultant and the overwhelming consensus amongst us now is that the front office needs to do whatever it takes to keep intact a roster whose core players are nearing or over age 30, some of whom are heading for hefty pay raises.

    The boss goes on a radio program before the first shred of confetti falls and publicly announces he does not want to break the bank to maintain the status quo. Fans are furious and call for the front office to save the owner from himself.

    But if the last 6 years are instructive of anything, it’s that Leon & Co. are good soldiers who will carry out the boss’ mandate as faithfully – and competently – as possible. Meaning: the approach we see the front office take going forward could look very different; something more closely akin to what fans wanted him to do back when he was first hired.

    It would not surprise me if we start to see movement towards a (very) gradual teardown in which Leon slowly begins exchanging costly assets for greater flexibility and – perhaps – relying more heavily on a draft which he has largely ignored til now.

    Does he have the chops to successfully execute what would be a dramatic departure from his M.O. until now? Well, after witnessing how he successfully threaded the needle on the much more difficult to pull off hybrid approach, I suppose my attitude has gotta be “In Leon I trust.”

    Dolan once paid a luxury tax bill that was 85% percent more than the salary cap for a 23 win team. Seems strange he wouldn’t pay for a good team. Maybe be, like me, has also grown cynical about this team? Dolan gets us!

    1. I don’t think we can win it all without Mitch unless Hukporti takes a significant step forward and can step into Mitch’s job or we sign someone else for less and get a much from him. But where are we going to get a Mitch quality player for less? I say that because there are way too many teams that are very good already that are going to be even better next year.

    2. I’m not 100% convinced the Knicks even want Mitch back.

    a. He’s a chronic injury risk.

    b. He can’t hit free throws at all and that becomes a liability at times.

    c. We never got the details on the broken hand, but he may have some underlying personal issues that increase risk.

    d. He plays with a minutes cap

    3. I love Mitch, but the downsides and risks are high and maybe it’s time to let him get a bag from Scott Perry in Sacramento and try to figure out if Hukporti or someone else can give us the defense and OREBs we need for less. Then again, since I think we need Mitch or a similar quality backup, this is quite a dilemma.

    This was Begley’s tweet in the immediate aftermath of that disastrous WFAN Dolan interview:

    @IanBegley
    If Knicks stay below 2nd apron, they will lose Mitchell Robinson and Landry Shamet…something seems amiss here

    As Macri often notes regarding Begley:

    1. He is always way more plugged into the front office than anyone else on the beat.

    2. He is very careful about what he does and doesn’t say, and how he says it.

    Keeping that in mind — and acknowledging that this could just be a naive coping mechanism from the afterglow of the championship — I would like to believe that this is Ian’s way of saying that Dolan misspoke (because he’s a shitty public speaker, as we also saw at the parade), that the plan is to definitely go into the second apron this year, and that, as Brian has speculated, Dolan just meant it’s insanity to stay in the second apron for very long.

    (Speaking of Macri, I was just attempting to explain the whole “Playoff Vildoza” phenomenon to him.)

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    Maybe Shamet is more of a priority than Mitch because Shamet will cost less money and because of all the issues with Mitch I mentioned above.

    Another thing that has to at least considered is that we won despite not getting much out of Deuce in the finals. The signing of Alvarado and emergence of Shamet have made Deuce a little more expendable given he’s due for a raise soon too. I hate the thought because I’ve always thought Deuce was a bigger plus than given credit for, but something has to give eventually with all these players and salaries. Maybe we could get some decent pick compensation for Deuce.

    Meanwhile, lots of trade gossip from Sam Amick: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7375466/2026/06/19/giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-trade-jaylen-brown/?source=user_shared_article&unlocked_article_code=1.rVA.KcGu.dEeUCeW5jHZp

    Among the notes:

    * Boston a legit threat to trade Jaylen Brown for Giannis
    * If Bucks don’t want to keep Brown after, Portland is interested (and owns several Bucks’ picks)
    * Heat are considering both Ja and Kawhi as backup plans if they don’t get Giannis
    * Pistons are willing to move Beef Stew, and are threats to sign Austin Reaves

    Does anyone here even care where Giannis ends up, since we know it won’t be here?

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    I remain staunchly pro-Mitch. -36 is ugly thiugh.

    It’s also misleading.

    He was bad in his minutes against Wemby in the two games at MSG (-27), when he was thrust into playing with the starters bc of KAT’s foul trouble.

    A lot people who play all their minutes against Wemby have terrible +/-. It says more about the alien than Mitch.

    And it goes to show how important his role is. We don’t only need a 12 mpg C. Given KAT’s foul troubles, we need someone at C who’s good enough to be a starter.

    He may not be the chrome or leather but he’s not someone you can replace with a regular nut or bolt.

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    I am going to go ahead and predict that Dolan misspoke because he is an idiot. I mean, the minutia of the aprons is difficult to follow even for smart people, and Dolan is not in that category. I think we will operate above the second apron in 2026-2027 and then of course seek to duck the repeater penalties.

    A few things contribute to my opinion here, Begley’s tweet being foremost among them. There’s also the fact that our contracts are nearly perfectly designed to get under the second apron in 2028-2029 at the moment, something which seems like the result of meticulous planning. Yes, it’s possible James Dolan tore all that up in a WFAN appearance. He is that malign and stupid. But he’s also never hesitated to cut a check, and going into the second apron for a single season is basically all that entails.

    When will teams realize that Jaylen Brown is not that good?

    I mean, Giannis’ value is also not as high as it used to be as he’s never healthy, but it is definitely much higher than Jaylen Brown, who will make 57m next year.

    Lacking any skills in Kremlinology, you’ll see no attempts from yours truly to parse out what Dolan really meant from the existing tea leaves and bread crumbs.

    Pending evidence to the contrary, I’ll continue to take his statement at face value and assume that there won’t be money to pay Mitch & Landry and use that as the basis for any speculation as to what the best way forward may be next season.

    That’s why I’m so interested to hear from those who are dialed in to college ball and have a familiarity with the draft prospects to weigh in on whether there is anyone who might possibly provide roughly comparable contributions from the bench as rookies.

    Of course Dolan, being the gargantuan flake that he is, could render even those speculations moot before the ink on the pixels is dry.

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    We’ll know one way or another very shortly. Strong hints will come from the draft, which is four days away (!).

    the overwhelming consensus amongst us now is that the front office needs to do whatever it takes to keep intact a roster whose core players are nearing or over age 30, some of whom are heading for hefty pay raises.

    I wouldn’t say that’s it.

    I just think we shouldn’t celebrate the title by shooting ourselves in the foot.

    If there’s a way to make the team better by staying under the second apron, by all means do it.

    I don’t see how you can replace nearly $30M in talent with $8M but if they can do it they shouldz

    If Leon is operating without Dolan edicts, I think the player most likely to move on is Deuce. He should want a chance to start and earn money, and if he does he won’t sign an extension. It looks like Immanuel Quickley, pt 2.

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    We’ll know one way or another very shortly. Strong hints will come from the draft, which is four days away (!).

    If we draft a C, that will be a big clue as to what may be next.

    Are there any centers that would be available to us in this year‘s draft who project to step in as rookies and provide something close to what Mitch does off the bench?

    the overwhelming consensus amongst us now is that the front office needs to do whatever it takes to keep intact a roster whose core players are nearing or over age 30, some of whom are heading for hefty pay raises.

    This reminds me of the time Mark Cuban (on my top 5 overrated list) decided to break up his championship team and let Tyson Chandler, Caron Butler and JJ Barea walk because the team was getting older and he wanted more cap flexibility – only to quickly regret it.

    If the Knicks do go over the SA it’s not a bad thing for the owner to have said they won’t. Strictly business.

    For the record, I make no statements about what others will do. I will say they SHOULD go into the second apron. I stand resolute regarding having no effing clue what will happen. And find it fascinating to hear others clearly knowing the future because of stupid people making somewhat ambiguous and likely ignorant utterances.

    Also, it could just be Mamdani’s speech writers lurking on Knickerblogger. Just sayin.

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    It’s a good draft for backup-level bigs. Tarris Reed Jr. would be the obvious plug-and-play center choice in our range. There’s also Cenac, Veesar, Onyenso, and of course Zuby. They all have different strengths, weaknesses, levels of upside, etc.

    That said, I wouldn’t overanalyze the implications of the choice. Between Mitch’s health issues and Huk’s general unevenness (though I was impressed with his handful of playoff minutes), it wouldn’t be a bad idea to add a reliable big even if we run it back, especially considering they could just be replacing Trey Jemison in a two-way slot.

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    Windhorst reported today that the Knicks are having contract negotiations with Mitch, which reinforces the notion that Dolan may not have known what he was talking about.

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    I’ve been glancing at the guys who might be available in our draft range, and I’m mostly looking at guys who are basically plug-and-play types, older players who were productive in college and who fit into our win-now timeline.

    I agree with Noble that Tarris Reed is the one guy who seems to obviously fit the bill. Reed is a plus rebounder and shot blocker, plays within his limitations, has a thick NBA body, and has a good feel for game situations. He’s a guy I’d feel good about drafting even if we kept Mitch, because Reed is almost certainly out of the box a more productive player than Hukporti.

    Happy Juneteenth, Clarence — and the rest of y’all.

    I’ll say it again in a slightly different way — you can’t really replace Mitch. You can find what he’s bad at in the scrap heap and on a rookie deal. But you can’t find what he’s good at unless you spend a ton for a front-line center.

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    DRed did have well-known leadership ambitions, and he got too busy to post here right around primary season. Just sayin’.

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    I actually think drafting a C is good move even if the plan is to re-sign Mitch. It takes 2-3 years to develop, and that maps perfectly with Mitch’s timeline.

    Best case scenario: we sign Mitch, draft a C, develop the C, trade Mitch for assets in year 2 or 3.

    Mitch is also injury prone and was probably millimeters away from being a DNP-Punched Wall for the entire NBA Finals, so a better insurance policy than Ariel Hukporti is probably a good idea if we have the chance to get one.

    There’s of course always the possibility that, as Z-Man alluded to, the FO thinks it’s a bad idea on the basketball merits to go into the SA. Last summer can easily be cast as that, as they decided to use the TP-MLE on a player rather than go into the SA.

    Another thing about Mitch we might not be considering. Maybe he doesn’t want some huge contract where the expectation is now that he starts and plays 30 minutes a game every night. My guess is some of his mental issues might stem from all the tome he’s spent injured. Even if the money is guaranteed, Mitch may not like the prospect of possibly getting hurt again.

    With the Knicks he now has a clearly defined role. Back up center, doesn’t play back to backs, load managed for the playoffs. He might be willing to sacrifice some dollars knowing that’s his role here and his body will be taken care of and less likely to break down.

    Trade idea I heard (and I hate):

    Fox and draft capital to Brooklyn for Michael Porter Jr.

    Spurs end up with Harper & MPJ replacing Fox & Champagnie. They’d be a huge starting 5.

    There’s of course always the possibility that, as Z-Man alluded to, the FO thinks it’s a bad idea on the basketball merits to go into the SA

    It’s hard to believe that when we can see so clearly that it’s not.

    Man, I’m loving all the Kolek content coming out from the parade… just saw him rapping 50 Cent into a mic on a float lol.

    I guess I’d be fine with Tarris, although it’s an uninspiring choice. He’s more of a classic center with some nice passing thrown in, but I can’t imagine him guarding Wemby on the perimeter the way Mitch can. And if he’s no better than Huk on day one, it feels like a wasted pick.

    I would honestly use the draft picks with an eye towards the future and look for rotation guys via vet min free agents and our 3rd-year guys.

    That’s why I’m expecting at least one eurostash from this draft (unless they play “kick the can” again).

    If Leon is operating without Dolan edicts, I think the player most likely to move on is Deuce. He should want a chance to start and earn money, and if he does he won’t sign an extension. It looks like Immanuel Quickley, pt 2.

    Yeah, similar thing also happened to Grimes and Obi. Moving players before their 2nd contract makes them expensive (3rd for Deuce) seems to be part of the team’s cap management.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we use a pick to preemptively replace Deuce, but maybe with Shamet & Alvarado they won’t feel the need. Kolek might also be ready to step up.

    I’d also guess Alvarado will opt-out and re-sign at a lower per year number for more guaranteed years.

    Add Alvarado’s name to the list of possible cap casualties.

    P&T has an article up this morning recounting a recent interview in which he said, “I got to go get paid.” He’s got a $4.5 MM player option for 26-27 that it sounds like he’s almost sure to opt out of.

    The hometown kid makes good has certainly been a wonderful story and the team likely loses Game 4 without him but I’m not sure how much more than his current cap hold he would be worth. While Kolek is not the defender Alvarado is, he probably can take his minutes without too much of a dropoff at a fraction of the cost.

    Kolek vs Alvarado is interesting because Kolek is so much more ball dominant than Alvarado. Tyler pounds the rock and asks for it back where Alvarado looks to give it up early. Alvarado made a huge off-ball impact in the Finals.

    They play very differently despite both being pass first PGs

    Agree 100% that finding a center that can defend and rebound (on both ends) like Mitch at a price we are willing to pay or in the draft is near impossible.

    Kolek vs Alvarado is interesting because Kolek is so much more ball dominant than Alvarado. Tyler pounds the rock and asks for it back where Alvarado looks to give it up early. Alvarado made a huge off-ball impact in the Finals.

    They play very differently despite both being pass first PGs

    Honestly if Kolek can hit threes like he did this year (and not last year), I’d take him as the backup. He’s not as crafty as Alvarado with steals, but Kolek seems to have ice in his veins (see: the Cup game) which is a good asset for a team looking to win a second championship.

    If he’s hitting treys at a 38% clip, then you can have him in the corner if the Knicks move to a more ball sharing offense when Brunson is out. Or even if they play point-KAT during those times. And even if he’s not shooting them, his passing in that kind of offense when the ball swings around would be an asset. If Brown is the offensive tinkerer we think he is, you’d think he’d find an offense with Kolek on the court that fits the team better. Whether it’s Kolek pounding the rock to find an open guy, or with him off the ball shooting or passing.

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    I’d also guess Alvarado will opt-out and re-sign at a lower per year number for more guaranteed years.

    For roster flexibility purposes, it may make sense to overpay these guys to take less years.

    Like Mitch – one year, $30M, with a team option for the 2nd.

    Or Alvarado – two years, $25M

    Everyone gets paid and you have great flexibility.

    The tax would be extraordinary but that’s what Dolan’s for.

    Re Dolan:

    As I recall, we have ~no leverage in the Mitch and Landry negotiations, bc, while we can go into the 2nd apron to sign them, if they leave, we can’t spend commensurate amounts signing replacements.

    In light of the above, I think we have to take Dolan’s words as posturing to try to claw back at least a little leverage.

    I’m a college guy and so am used to even championship rosters turning over a lot every year and have no real interest in the band coming back just for the sake of it. That’s the internal sporting cadence and personal player “relationships” I’m used to and comfortable with.

    This was a great year with some fantastic moments; if they get back to the finals next year, next year will have some greatness and fantastic moments. 1970 was 1970, 1973 was 1973, Michigan 1989 was Michigan 1989, Michigan 1993 was Michigan 1993.

    If bringing back Mitch and Shamet is the best thing from a basketball perspective, bring them back; if it’s not (*), move on and build next year’s team to be a better basketball team.

    (*) It probably isn’t.

    If we lost 2 or even 3 of these guys (Mitch, Landry, Jose), it would hurt our defense a lot.

    I like Kolek to a certain degree but it would be an ate down on defense and also overall speed. Jose’s speed helped.

    Most likely, a 2027 run would have even better and even more dramatic moments because the competition will be tougher. The run is more important than the band. Life moves on.

    Based on my crude back of the envelope calculations, bringing back Mitch, Landry & Jose at or near market rate deals would result in a tax penalty well north of $100 million. That’s more than a 1/3 increase over the total salary paid to the team that just won the title.

    Personally, it makes no difference to me as there are few things on this earth I care less about than Jimmy Dolan’s money. I’d imagine, though, that Jimmy cares about it much, much more than I. How much more seems to an open question around these parts with some suggesting that his past willingness to spend freely on shitty teams suggest that he’d have little problem doing so again now that the team is really good.

    Hope that’s the case but I’m not entirely convinced that his comments on WFAN can be readily dismissed as just the off-the-cuff blathering of an imbecile. $100 million+ is a lot of money, even to Dolan. I’m not sure he’d write it off all that easily.

    Dolan’s not a big boy billionaire like Uncle Steve. He’s a fugazy billionaire.

    Hope you’re reading this Guitar Jimmy.

    one hundred million…the knicks probably topped that number in merch sales the last week…

    now that jimmy d has his ring and can call himself a “champion” for ever and ever – hopefully he stays greedy and tries to get another…

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    Geo’s right.

    And $100M is less than Brunson left on the table.

    How you gonna tell Jalen in the first year of his discount that you had to dump his teammates to save money?

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    How you gonna tell Jalen in the first year of his discount that you had to dump his teammates to save money?

    Well, it helps if you’re a miserable cunt of a human being. That makes it a lot easier.

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    This doesn’t have anything to do with Dolan or the current roster/issues, but did Brunson’s lower extension actually in fact allow them to enhance the roster? Mikal and KAT were brought in when he was at his earlier number, not the extension number.

    totally unfair on my behalf, but I’m expecting KAT to rework his deal and lower his hit for next season by about 5 million…

    like jimmy d, seems KAT is getting some salary talk out there also…

    very very hard for me to inagine any player is worth 60 million…

    They can’t renegotiate KAT’s current number down. Done all the time in football, no can do here.

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    That word seems to be fraught with extra meaning, for some reason.

    Extension?

    This doesn’t have anything to do with Dolan or the current roster/issues, but did Brunson’s lower extension actually in fact allow them to enhance the roster?

    Not yet, because the first year of his discount is next year.

    I think our best hope is Rose convinces the nepobaby to go into the second apron next season and then KAT opts out of the last year of his deal and we re-sign him to long term extension at an AAV that gets us back under the apron.

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    They can’t renegotiate KAT’s current number down. Done all the time in football, no can do here.

    They can renegotiate the 2027-28 number down. That’s the year he has a $61M player option. He can decline and sign, say, a 4 year / $200M extension and it would reduce his 27/28 salary from 61M to 50M.

    We’re getting into “The Hartenstein Paradox” territory again. Yeah, any player could sign a contract for way under his market value, but NBA players essentially never do that. (*)

    Unless his play collapses on the court next year — which would be a bigger problem than the SA — KAT is not going to sign an extension at that number. His market value will be way higher.

    In reality, KAT’s gonna be chafing come July that he wasn’t offered 4/272. Assuming he isn’t, that is.

    (*) Jalen Brunson didn’t even do that because he’s going to make up the “loss” with a bigger extension later. He’s eligible to make over $80M a year starting three seasons from now.

    People are saying KAT “should take less money” but that’s misleading. He’d really only be taking less than the super max, but the super max is not his market value.

    If on cue, two hours ago:

    Karl-Anthony Towns is apparently going against the conventional wisdom that winning cures all.

    The New York Knicks star center Towns remains frustrated with the team despite their NBA championship victory, Vincent Goodwill of ESPN reported Friday during an appearance on “Get Up.” Goodwill notes that Towns has not gotten over the Knicks failing to sign him to a contract extension before the season and that their failure to do so has “stuck with him.”

    He didn’t even wait until July 6 to start chafing.

    Yeah, any player could sign a contract for way under his market value, but NBA players essentially never do that. (*)

    Your max and your market value are not the same.

    KAT’s max is 4y/$272M but it’s not his market value.

    He wouldn’t get that if he were a free agent right now, coming off a stellar postseason. And he absolutely won’t get it in two years when his current contract is up at 33.

    Maybe, but that doesn’t mean he’s gonna take an $11M paycut from the Knicks in ’27-’28.

    If he’s truly unhappy, I’d be very worried that this postseason was a fluke and start thinking very strongly whether the best course of action might not be moving on. Too early is always better than too late.

    E spent the whole day doom posting. I’m sure you’re so relieved to be able to do this again even though nothing has actually happened.

    He didn’t even wait until July 6 to start chafing.

    Towns didn’t chafe at all. That’s not a report. That’s a guy on a talk trying to bring an old report from 6 months ago back into the news cycle.

    It’s also the same guy who a few days ago called the Knicks’ NBA championship “a participation trophy” and said one title doesn’t mean anything bc “every team gets one now.”

    Like you, he’s just trolling Knicks fans after winning the title.

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    Wasn’t Vinnie Goodwill an accepted source around here? If not, my bad.

    In any event, I probably am guilty of doom posting as Swifty noted so will hang up and listen unless news comes up until the draft.

    He was when he published a well-sourced report that was verified by other journalists.

    You’re quoting an unsourced hot take from an argument show.

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    The Knicks’ starting five simply obliterated the Spurs. When the starting five was on the floor they had a 116.4 offensive rating and a 99.6 defensive rating. That’s a 16.8 net rating.

    The Two Quick Foul Special was the only thing that kept this series competitive. Our starting five gave them fits.

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    Yeah, I had a casual fan/distant family member say just an hour ago that the Spurs starting five was way better than the Knicks. Yup, and the East is totally open next year.

    I’m starting to wonder if any NBA champ has gotten this little respect.

    Leon should wait to see what the market value of Mitch and Shamet are and then decide wether to match or move on. No extensions for KAT, Jose or Josh. Play your contract and we’ll decide next summer.

    If we can keep Shamet, I would package Deuce + 2026 1RP + Cash for TWO future heavily protected 1RPs.

    Best part of every off season now is that we know we can trust that Leon and co will continue to beat the market. (S&P 500)

    Also, E is right, – no one is taking less money to stay. Us fans need to stop with this…especially broke guys like Alvarado.

    None of us have ever suggested Alvarado or Landry or Mitch should consider taking less money. We’ve all been saying the Knicks should pay them.

    Wow they even pulled Triumph the insult comic dog out of retirement for the parade. I might use this one:

    “My nickname is Jalen Brunson because I’m undersized, but I know how to finish at the hole.”

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    They can’t renegotiate KAT’s current number down. Done all the time in football, no can do here.

    aaargh…57 million due with a cap limit of 165 million…leaves – not enough…34.59% of roster money…

    why in the heck are these two players on the books for next season?
    – petteri koponen
    – pj tucker

    @geo: Sometimes you surprise me with the depth of information that you come up with, and you just did it again with those two guys who are still on our books—one of whom I’ve literally never heard of. I always see you as a chill/roll with it/”hope everyone is great” kind of guy, so when you pull such detailed information in sudden spurts, and then also including percentage of cap hit to two significant digits after the decimal point out of the blue like that, it makes me smile and I find it quite impressive. And I want you to know that I’m not being snarky or sarcastic in any way—it’s always really cool when you do that. Keep on keepin’ on, whether you’re posting detailed numbers or just chillng and asking us all about our days…….

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    awwww doogie, that was awesome, i hope your friday evening is going well…your words are much appreciated sir 🙂

    it’s funny, we all need to conform a bit to get what we want, so so proud to see the work yourself, Bob, and Pags put in just to be welcomed here, to feel a part of the community…a lot of folks will never understand the challenge that many people have connecting socially…

    it’s not easy stuff for everyone…

    for myself, i wanted a relationship with you all, so i needed to learn from the folks here, and put some effort in to being more basketball minded…conform…

    in another life i was an operations/logistics sort, with HAL around now, data and analysis are even more abundant…

    honestly, the roster salary and construction intricacies go over my head a lot…

    still a sports fan, although less as i age…the rising athlete salaries catch my eye…something easy for some of my socialistic tendencies to latch on to…a link for me to other issues of interest…

    i don’t know, probably just jealous i have neither the funds nor the skills to compare to the folks performing out on the court…so, i focus on the ungodly money they make…not quite trillionaires, but, some are creeping up on that half a billion mark…maybe wemby will be the first nba billionaire…

    LeBron James already there:
    LeBron James is estimated to have a net worth of $1.4 billion, making him the first active NBA player to reach billionaire status. While he downplays the label and jokingly claims he is “broke” in interviews, his wealth stems from a massive lifetime Nike contract and highly successful business investments.
    His net worth is built on a diverse portfolio of assets and earnings:
    Career Earnings: James has amassed over $580 million in pretax NBA salary from the Cleveland Cavaliers, Miami Heat, and Los Angeles Lakers.
    Endorsements: He earns more than $900 million off the court through lucrative sponsorships, most notably a lifetime contract with Nike worth over $1 billion.
    The SpringHill Company: James owns a significant stake (around 42%) in his own entertainment, production, and marketing agency.
    Fenway Sports Group: He holds approximately a 1% ownership share in the group (worth roughly $141 million), which owns the Boston Red Sox, Pittsburgh Penguins, and Liverpool F.C..
    Other Investments: His portfolio includes stakes in companies like Blaze Pizza, Epic Games, DraftKings, and Canyon Bicycles.
    Real Estate: He has a massive real estate portfolio consisting of properties in Akron, Los Angeles, and Beverly Hills, valued at over $100 million.

    Now, if you’re talking about from NBA salaries alone…….you might be on to something.

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    Dolan’s not a big boy billionaire like Uncle Steve. He’s a fugazy billionaire.

    I can’t really say much about how I know, but suffice to say that Guitar Jimmy is very much not a fugazi billionaire. Not even close. Multiple billions to cushion him, wherever this goes. Money is not an object. Ego, pride, the despite to be the star of every conversation, impulse control, etc etc. But not money.

    Jordan is a multi-billionaire – but again, mostly through his deal with Nike

    I was reading ESPN’s latest mock draft, and something that struck me about it was that beyond about pick 14 every mock pick was like 22 or 23 years old. I think this is because younger college players worth drafting can get more in NIL than typical NBA late picks typically do.

    By the way, they have us picking Tarris Reed at number 24, right before the Lakers pick Zuby Ejiofor at number 25.

    See https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7365062/2026/06/18/nba-2026-mock-draft-peterson-boozer-acuff/

    i don’t know, probably just jealous i have neither the funds nor the skills to compare to the folks performing out on the court…so, i focus on the ungodly money they make…not quite trillionaires, but, some are creeping up on that half a billion mark…maybe wemby will be the first nba billionaire…

    You’re not the only one brother. We are continously being divided between capital and labor as if those are the only two choices. Look at the Lebron post above. He’s in both buckets in a major way but most of us are too.. via 401k, real estate, small businesses, etc…heck even a sports card collections.

    All it takes is discipline and effort. Learn. Earn. Save. Invest. Do that for 30+ yrs and you’re guaranteed to be a millionaire. Don’t give up on your potential and agency. We are all capable of soo much more. Get yours. Don’t waste time thinking about how much others have and how much politicians should take back from them and re allocate that confiscated capital to their own poskets and their cronies.

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