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2026 NBA Finals Game 4 PREcap: Knicks 107 (3) – Spurs 106 (1)

As I write these words, the Spurs lead the Knicks 59-38, about halfway (!!!) through the second quarter.  It was worse a minute ago but we just got a couple of transition layups by Brunson.  Spurs called a timeout, I’m watching a Popeye’s commercial.

I have two little kids who need to get out of the house early in the morning, I have to get myself downtown to work also, so I’m starting this now.  No reason to be up til 1 AM for this nonsense. Let’s just watch and write and see where we go.

I will say that being able to feel cynical and partly broken by an NBA Finals game instead of a routine December loss to the Magic or some such makes me feel like a higher class of sap than during the old days.

Hukporti tied up Wemby, jump ball turned into volleyball and ended, of course, in a Spurs three.  Vassell, Castle, Sam Cassell, one of those guys. Not gonna rewind it. Spurs are roughly 37 for 8 from deep so far.

Brunson drives through contact, no call.  Ho hum.  You want me to talk about the refs, that’s what you came for. I know.  I don’t want to right now. Maybe at halftime.

Harper looks to me like Brunson but younger and quicker.  Wrote that after he coasted to the rim for a layup.  Was about to write that he just needs a more consistent three-ball but then he hit one.  Not gonna hit backspace.

Jeremy Sochan getting real minute tonight.  Ariel Hukporti getting real minutes tonight. Spurs now up 29. A waking nightmare, visiting us from another time.

Brunson misses a free throw.  He just seems not himself.  Starting to consider the possibility that we will look back on that stop to end Game 2 as the high point.  Of the season? The decades? Our lives. Dont’ think about that now.  Hart misses two free throws, Brunson hits a second-chance 3.  Down 25. Brunson hesi, leans into contact on a 20-footer.  I’m gonna write “Brunson makes both free throws” and see if it helps.

Brunson makes both free throws.

Nope, he missed the first one.  Still not hitting backspace. We look forward here because we don’t want to look at the carnage in the rearview.

Tim Legler says our goal is to get it under 20.  I personally think our goal should be to win 2 of the remaining games in the series but reasonable minds may differ.

I want to understand how we’re going to officiate Wemby.  Because he’s playing at a higher level than everyone else — and I mean this literally, there are things occurring a certain distance off the floor that only involve him — we may need SKY LAW REFORM. He kind of flips the ball to himself up there sometimes; is it a pass, is it a tip, is it basket interference? OK, now this motherfucker just stepped into a logo three and missed it, up 27.  Go to hell, man.  Halftime. 76-49.

I think they’re better than the Hawks.

OK. Halftime. What do I want to say about the refs? I don’t think any of the individual calls in this game have risen to the level of scandal, which is maybe going to put me in the minority based on everything I’m seeing in my texts and on social media.  As I’ve become a bigger soccer fan, though, I’ve started to look at the refs differently, as something more than accountants, more than jurors.  A well-officiated soccer match is one in which officials accept that they are incapable of reining in the chaos with total precision and work to establish basically consistent standards. Rather than aspiring to the impossible task of  getting through the game without either team’s fans complaining, they essentially attempt to make sure that both fans are complaining the same amount. That’s what I’ve felt has been lacking tonight and this week more generally.  The standards for a foul, for a technical, for a flagrant, have been a moving target all series, this fourth game is being officiated completely differently than the first three, and the calls at the margins — even in the games we won — have generally seemed to go the same way.  You can point to a handful of calls so far tonight that, with any luck, could have gone the other way. But then, it would truly have been luck. None of the individual calls tonight have been terrible (nothing as egregious as the missed flagrant on Wemby in Game 3, for example). But I’m as annoyed as you are that we can’t seem to catch a break.

So: OK.  There’s the red meat.  I gave you what you wanted.  But guess what folks: who cares! We’re playing like shit and the Spurs can’t miss.  Our close-outs are lazy, we’re being beaten repeatedly in transition, the beautiful, liquid movement of players and ball that we’ve seen on offense for the last couple months is utterly absent.  We’re down 27.  You want to be down 18? Cool, then you can blame the refs.

OG has been awesome, 14 in the first, just hit a three to open the second half. Looks like the one human in a fucking muppet movie out there.

Wemby elbows KAT in the jaw.  If they’d called the Wemby flagrant on Brunson last game, and if they upgrade this one, then he’d be suspended for next game.  All this shit matters, but you can’t holler too loud when you’re down 29 either. It’s 29 again, by the way.  Also, this game feels like it started 6 weeks ago. They call the flagrant.

Wemby is gonna get a rep as a dirty player pretty soon, wouldn’t be shocked if he already has one among players. League isn’t gonna want that, from a brand perspective.  It’s a subplot for the future, doesn’t really matter now.

Spurs take a quick, silly three.  Long rebound. Great cut by OG and find by Hart, Anunoby with the flush.  We have to win this series in transition, not against settled defense. Jalen buries a three.  Down 22! The crowd goes wild!

Lineup stat to keep an eye on: Raekwon, Method Man, and Ghostface Killah are currently a +5.

I’m a big tennis fan too — you’ll notice I’m spending a lot of this talking about sports besides basketball! not a coincidence! — and you always have to remind yourself that if you’re up a set and down 5-0 in the second, you’re actually still winning the match. They could go up 100 and until the final whistle, we’re technically still winning the series and go to bed no worse than tied.

Breen reminds us about the big comebacks against the Celtics lsat year.  Not really making me feel better about this one but it always fun to remember that the Celtics couldn’t get past THE SIXERS this year. Lol. Lmao. Schadenfreude really has its purpose.

If you’re reading this and thinking “This isn’t very good, I’m not sure where he’s going with this gimmick” I am here to tell you (1) I know and (2) nowhere.

My wife just walked in and changed the TV settings from “dark mode” to max brightness.  And an OG three instantly cuts it to 19! Wizard Of Oz shit in my living room.  Welcome to Munchkinland! Knicks gobbling up rebounds.  Keep your heads.  19 points with 17:33 left to play is, at least, into “crazier things have happened” territory.

Wemby to the bench now, Shamet/Alvarado come in for us. Smallish lineup with Brunson, Hart, and KAT at the 5.

Hart immediately hits a three.  It’s 16 now.  If this is gonna happen we need to take a BIG bite now with Wemby on the bench.  Get a stop or two and this place gets LOUD.

The stop comes. Shamet misses a transition three. Hart goes up in a sea of black shirts and tips out the rebound and gets fouled by Kornet in the process.  Deafening “Let’s go Knicks” chant.  If it’s gonna happen, it’s gotta happen now.

Castle draws a foul and makes two. This guy seems to have grown a lot over the course of this postseason and even this series.  He’s ice right now.  This is a young core finding itself; the prospect of being a footnote is miserable. KAT just picked up his fourth on a Harper blow-by. The air is out of the balloon.  Harper makes 2, Spurs by 20.

This post is basically art therapy at this point.  I implore you to scroll to the comments.  I’m not planning to edit this.

Brunson draws a third on Harper and sees his 20 foot heave drop.  Makes the freebie.  Harper answers.  Can’t get enough stops to eat into this lead. Still down 19. Brunson middy and it’s 17. Harper airballs a three and the crowd gets loud.  Timeout Spurs. Maybe? Nahhh.  But…maybe?

In the 1996 World Series, the road team won the first 5 games: Braves, Braves, Yankees, Yankees, Yankees.  Yanks close it out at home in 6.  Maybe the best night of your humble correspondent’s sports life? A repeat of the pattern here would top it.  The only thing that I can imagine could be better than your baseball team winning it all when you’re 11 is the world showing you that it still has some magic in store for you when you’re 40.

Word count: 1514.  It’s not even the fourth quarter yet guys.  I haven’t said ANYTHING. I’m wandering down a text window on a WordPress page because to stop would be to sit quietly and contemplate that this might be our best chance for a generation and we might be blowing it.

But, no, not now.  We’re on an 18-6 run.  We have the ball.  Alley oop to Mitch! 5 assists for Jalen.  Down 15.  Surely not.

Fox and Wemby miss a combined three 3-pointers on one possession. Not even trying to use clock.  Still some of the arrogance of youth there, though it might be a net positive for them right now.

Wemby sure looks like he hit Clarkson with a moving pick.  No call, Vassel hits a three. Air out of the balloon again.  If you’re still reading, type “gramophone” in the comments, you win a prize.

OG gets the best roll of the night on a 3.  15 again, we’re on top of the flow now, crowd on it’s feet.  Still a huge mountain to climb.  Fox dribbles off his foot, out of bounds.  33 seconds left. Time for a two-for-one?  Get it to 10 at the quarter? Maybe???

No two-for-one.  One possession and it’s a shit show. All 5 players practically turn it over.  Wemby misses, this dude has not caught a single pass in the post tonight, at least that I can remember.  What happens when he realizes that he doesn’t have to make this fair for the other teams? Do we get another shot at this before he gets old, retires? Don’t think about that now. Down 15 after three.

Where would this rank among heartbreaks, if we just fall on our faces from here.  Don’t think about that now.  Wemby might have one more stretch on the bench and, if not, he is starting to look a little tired.  Two quick threes? Cut it to 9? Make them blink, get the crowd into it, grind it out?  I still haven’t hit backspace.  I’m leaving all the stupid, optimistic palpatations of a romantic heart here for you to see.  Laugh at me.  I’m not giving up on this team now.

We’ve got another challenge on what looks like a 50/50 out-of-bounds call. Mitch or Wemby? Wemby or Mitch? I was 22 years old when this game started.  I think Othella Harrington got some minutes in the first quarter.

14 minute long commercial break. Unclear at this point any time I see Jason Sudeikis whether he’s in character as Ted Lasso or not anymore.  It’s a life choice.

Knicks win the challenge, our ball, do nothing with it. Harper makes a layup. Mitch misses an alley oop.

I think the fairy dust is off Landry Shamet at this point.  It’s been very, very fun and he’ll never paying for a drink in a bar that I’m in for the rest of his life, but we need to win or lose this with our main dudes.  I really don’t want to spend the summer wondering what could have been if Bridges and OG and Hart had gotten more of Shamet and Clarkson’s minutes. Shamet misses another three. 10 minutes left, down 18.

Getting better looks but the absolute lid is on the basket right now. We’re playing better but to what end? Spurs have us at arms length, playing with their food.

Gorgeous cut by Bridges. Again, transition. Wemby swats at the block and misses, punches the padded stanchion. Bridges is the only guy on the team who doesn’t seem to care that Wemby is there. Brunson and Hart, they dribble into the lane, see him there, turn around and leave like the Grampa Simpson meme.  Bridges just takes his shot.  Doesn’t always go down, but really suits his personality. The guy just does his stuff, shows up every day, plays his defense, gets to his spots, puts it up when he sees the rim.  Exactly how you want your 4th or 5th best player to be wired. If we lose from here people will want to relitigate that trade again this summer. It will be exhausting. They built this team correctly; their timing might be shit.

2,200 words.  What am I doing?

Game back. Knicks get a stop.  I wrote that whole Bridges thing during the commercial break by the way.  This game began in 1992, I was six years old, Kiki Vandeweghe gave us a couple of good possessions.

KAT just drained a preposterous three from the wing, falling into the Spurs bench.  That’s really his first fourth quarter bucket of the series?  Jeez, man. Somehow we’re only down 12, a touch over seven minutes left. Maybe?  Nahhh.

My fear is that this game gets close enough that people really will be able to credibly blame the loss on the weirdly officiated first quarter.  That would bring me no comfort. If we’re gonna lose, let’s just lose. But, hey, better idea…

And, yeah! OG hits a three.  Same spot as KAT’s off a kick from Brunson.  And now an OG steal.  And a KAT runner in Wemby’s face!

Folks, we’re down 9! What is happening? 6:24 to go, Alvo fouls Castle on the floor.

Castle makes the pair.  Spurs already in the bonus.  There’s basically no way we can win this game if they don’t miss some free throws, no matter how good we are.

Jalen into traffic.  Gets fouled by Castle. That’s 5 on him.  Hmm? Makes both.  Back to 9.  Hmmmmmmm?

Spurs can’t hit a three all of a sudden.  Knicks need to protect the ball, Brunson’s had his pocket picked twice this quarter. But now: he gets to the rim. Scoop, glass, net.  We’re down 7.  5 minutes left.  Spurs saving their timeouts. Fox bricks a pull-up, Wemby tips it out of bounds. Our ball.

MAYBE?

OGUGUA ANUNOBY WIDE OPEN CORNER THREE.

Spurs 99, Knicks 95.

My sister lives in Hell’s Kitchen.  Just texted me, “The city is loud right now?”

“The streets?”

“Not even the streets. Just like screaming from various buildings.”

Screaming from mine too, but I’m a thousand miles away.  I don’t think she heard me, hope she didn’t too because that would almost definitely mean I woke my kids up.

OK Spurs ball.  This game began in 1957. Nat “Sweetwater” Clifton gave them a really good shift on the defensive end in the second quarter. Fox three.  Jalen layup. Wemby from the top of the key.  Down 7 again. not looking good.

Quick pass, quick pass, Alvarado three.  It’s 104-100.  OG is guarding Fox out to the three point line, miss, no rebound, out of bounds.  Knicks ball.

Breathe, Kevin. Breathe, reader.

Here comes Jalen.  4 starters plus Alvarado for Bridges.  Jalen three off the bounce!  WE’RE DOWN 1.  WHAT IS HAPPENING.

HART HART HART HART WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

The Ewing finger roll just happened again.  I want to die.

My computer wants to install updates.  I’m fighting it.

Wemby misses a free throw.  Garden up for grabs. Looks a little shook. Another? Please?

HE MISSED BOTH.

Knicks ball down 1.  1:45 left.  This is Brunson time.  Can it happen?

BRUNSON FLOATER.  WE’RE WINNING. 105-104, 1:22 LEFT.

Heart pounding.  I can’t stop typing now, I can’t stop this bit. I can’t shift the vibes.  Just keep typing, Kevin, just keep typing.

Castle steps on the baseline! Knicks with the lead and the ball.  This game started in 1777, I think Francis “The Swamp Fox” Marion hit a couple threes in the earlygoing.

Shot clock violation, Knicks gonna go offense defense, Spurs call timeout, with the ball.  We get a stop and they might need to foul.  Maybe?  MAYBE?

I might start laughing, I might start crying.  I might walk my dog to the Wisconsin state line tonight.

Surely you’re not still reading this but, if you are, you’re in the future. Can you call me? Can you tell me how this ends? I’m stuck in the bad place, where despair and hope collide. John McEnroe is high-fiving Larry David.  I haven’t spoken a coherent word out loud in an hour.  My wife understands, somehow, she’s here with me for whatever happens.

Fox misses a pull-up.  Somehow, we don’t protect the glass. Josh Hart.  Josh Hart of all people isn’t there for the rebound. Of all the ways to lose.

Castle back to the line.  He hasn’t missed on tonight.  He made big ones last game. He makes the first.

Please, hoops gods, please if you think some of those calls shouldn’t have gone against us.

MY POWER JUST WENT OUT.  THERE’S A STORM IN CHICAGO AND I LOST POWER BEFORE THE SECOND FREE THROW.

IT’S PITCH BLACK IN MY HOUSE.

It’s on my phone now.  I still don’t know if he made the second one.  I can’t post this because I do’nt have Wi-Fi.

I couldn’t make this up.  What is happening.

Googled it on my phone, still getting data. I guess he made it.  Our ball down 1. Worried our race is run.

My wife is here with her iPad.  The power isn’t coming back on. I’m on a small screen the rest of the way.

Brunson went to the rim, didn’t get the call.  Spurs in transition.  OG block.

OG Anunoby.  OG fucking Anunoby.

Alvarado about to go backcourt, either they give a foul or Brown called a timeout? Whichever it was, it saved us.  It’s our ball on the side, we have 6 seconds, we’re down 1.  You already know how this ends.

I’m sitting in a pitch black room in Chicago, my wife’s iPad on her lap.

I’m gonna stop typing, watch the possession.  See you on the other side.

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HOLY SHIT

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Brunson with the seemingly-too-fast trigger.  Left enough time for OG to sneak through, not a body on him, volleyball tip, into the basket.  McEnroe can’t believe it. Seinfeld can’t believe it. I can’t believe it.

I’m still sitting in the dark.  This game started in 1451, Mehmet the Conqueror had a dominant first quarter.

Gonna stop typing again, watch the Spurs possession.  See you on the other side.  Look out for the lob.

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OH. MY. GOD.

I am sitting in the dark.  I am gasping into the shoulder of my wife’s fleece.  Build the OG Anunoby statue.

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Down by 29.  Down by 20 in the fourth. I don’t want to read this back. I don’t want to edit it.  This wasn’t supposed to be a bit when I started it.

I still don’t have power, I still don’t have WiFi. I still don’t have any bigger picture reflections on this.  Let me try:

This team has, all season, defined itself by taking every single opening left to it.  Refs be damned, luck be damned, 89-inch-tall basketball aliens be damned.  They haven’t given up.  We haven’t given up.  The crowd was deafening down 20, down 25. They made every possession matter.  They had a half-dozen “Dammit, there goes the last chance” moments, and made another chance.  And they win the game on a weak side offensive rebound and tip-in by their quietest star.

You let the Knicks hang around, you lose.  It’s that simple.  It’s been that simple.

We do this one more time, we’re home.

Gonna hotspot my phone and hit “post.”

See you Saturday.

Breathe.

307 replies on “2026 NBA Finals Game 4 PREcap: Knicks 107 (3) – Spurs 106 (1)”

Down 27, I went and put a pair of exercise shorts on. For some reason they went on backwards.

Will guard these shorts with my life:

Also, the Spurs are dumb as shit.

And fuck Wemby

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Listening to Mitch Johnson presser.

This is not done yet but dude looks like they accepted defeat since at least 20 minutes ago.

How is that possible?

I left sports bar for my full team offsite to head back to my hotel to be in misery alone. Little did I know I’d be losing my mind and voice in my hotel room. EPIC COMEBACK, I still don’t know what happened or how we actually did that!! Blows the Cleveland comeback out of the water. WOW. THiS Fing TEAM!!!

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Historic recap for a historic game.

I moved from my bedroom to the living room and they came back.

I bought an OG shirt last week and he does this.

I must confess feeling a little narcissistic right now.

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i just rewatched the last play and i think kat deflected the inbound and saved the game. looked like castle had a clear path back door for the finish.

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I’m in awe of OG’s performance. 33 points in 15 shots. Guarded Wemby a bunch. Blocks Fox in the last play and then that outback?

Build the statue now.

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There is really something to be said about a group of guys never ever giving up and believing they can still win. We’ve now seen them do this so many times in the last few years of the playoffs. There is such an insane amount of mental fortitude required to do this shit.

It’s not that the Spurs just missed shots, Knicks woke up and were working their tales off on defense finally.

Let’s not forget OB blocking Fox’s Latin attempt at rim in those final seconds

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I hope we get a Ben Stiller video of that tip in.

How am I supposed to sleep?

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We need the internet to come up with a Wemby choking clip set to the tune of Zombie by Cranberries.

In your heeeeaaaaddddd, in your headddddddd

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How am I supposed to sleep?

I said it a few days ago. Open another fucking bottle of wine already!

When they were down 29, i went to my basement because I had to log into my work laptop to update some software and for whatever reason I couldn’t log in. as I sat there in quiet because I had no desire to put the game on on my phone while I was downstairs I actually heard a drip drip drip I went to check it out and my boiler was leaking

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Thank you all so much for keeping this website alive, and thank you Mike and Bobby and Jim for asking me to do this again. What a fever dream. What a life. We’re all in this together.

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Had they not been down 29 and me completely giving up, there’s no way I would have noticed that my boiler was leaking. it might have been weeks before I noticed

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Mike Brown is a philosopher king. Love those postgame comments.

And yeah, it was dumb of Fox to shoot but that was superhero shit from OG

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Thank you all so much for keeping this website alive, and thank you Mike and Bobby and Jim for asking me to do this again. What a fever dream. What a life. We’re all in this together.

Thank YOU and Mike and everyone – this is an awesome community, and we fucking deserve this.

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We need the internet to come up with a Wemby choking clip set to the tune of Zombie by Cranberries.

In your heeeeaaaaddddd, in your headddddddd

you were right hubie, that was even better than a physical gut punch…

he’s now helped his team to two losses in the nba finals…

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As noted in the game thread, I never lost faith.

But OG was on a mission from Gawd. That I did not expect.

Best win since 1970.

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I think ptmillo is right – KAT saved us in the last play. He tipped the ball. Hart was late, Castle would have scored.

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Hubertsays:
June 10, 2026 at 22:30
Taylor Swift’s presence is only marginally worse than Trump’s.

This might have aged worse than “OG is overpaid”.

Sorry, Taylor.

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I think ptmillo is right – KAT saved us in the last play. He tipped the ball. Hart was late, Castle would have scored.

That was a BIZARRELY bad inbounds pass by Harper. It’s like he just half-assed it.

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I too love that this site has stayed all these years. Fun reading you guys.
Smart, creative, and an emotional rollercoaster.
Brunson may be the king of NY, but OG is the prince.

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I think ptmillo is right – KAT saved us in the last play. He tipped the ball. Hart was late, Castle would have scored.

Some of you guys had your eyes open for the last play? Wow, that’s amazing.

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I can’t think of a better cleansing after orange man showed up yesterday than this

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Wemby looked like a spoiled child being not allowed to have his undeserved toy.

Losing respect for the guy game after game

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If KAT tipped it than clock should’ve run out before the ball reached Castle.

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I’m not a T Swift fan at all but I do find it funny that Trump attends game 3 and we lose but T Swift attends game 4 and we have the greatest comeback ever.

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Hard to see but it looked like a wounded duck

Yeah, I think it was just a TERRIBLE pass that was SO bad that it looked like it was tipped.

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I’m not a T Swift fan at all but I do find it funny that Trump attends game 3 and we lose but T Swift attends game 4 and we have the greatest comeback ever.

And wasn’t she supporting the Cavs when she attended the ECF?

The first person to name his next child OG should be Josh Hart. I’m so happy for him that he doesn’t have to live with those two plays the rest of his life.

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If Brunson was the greatest free agent signing in franchise history, is OG the greatest trade in franchise history?

I’d have to say so. Just look at how much we leveled up once we got him. Brunson is the man, obviously. KAT has been great and is obviously an all star. Hart and bridges are great role players.

But OG is such an amazing two way talent who can score at an elite and efficient level while playing some of the best defense in the league and he can do it at all 5 positions. And then the mental aspect of his game. It’s almost comical how this dude is so non chalant. Like I imagine even after he made that tip in his heart rate barely rose. He’s like the most zen basketball player ever.

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Yeah me too Hubs. Hart has done so much for us it would have been a shame for him to get blamed for a loss tonight and ruining the Brunson hart friendship legacy.

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The greatest thing for me is that my son is 11 and my daughter is 14 and they are both experiencing this entire run with me. These are core memories that we are forming together. More importantly, these are lifetime imprinting memories for them. I’m so happy for them. And you know what I’m happy for my old ass as well. I damn near cried with OG tipped that in. It had the same impact that the LJ four-point play did on me, like it did for many of you. One more game to go and Nirvana can happen.

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Was she? I know Travis was at a Cavs game that was at Cleveland and was supporting them but was t swift also supporting them or was she just there with him?

Also: It felt like the second half was officiated fairly. Nothing egregious, just two teams playing and no obvious advantage given by the refs. Funny what happens when that happens.

Scott Foster in Game 5, for sure.

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OG should go in the rafters if we win this thing

Old Doogie would have a field day with this

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Yeah I’m sure the league isn’t going to give up the ghost yet and they’d probably
Love a spurs win after this comeback to bring it back to another game at MSG. But I don’t want to give them that chance. We need to break their souls early on Saturday.

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Jalen’s game will be forgotten given OG’s heroics, but he was SO good in the second half. Had to hit so many grenades just to make it possible. Yeah, there were a few dumb plays, but they don’t win it without him.

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One thing I have to give Brown a lot of credit for… he packed the paint in the 2nd half even though the Spurs hit everything in the first.

How many times have we seen a team quit on its Josh Hart strategy after he makes a few? But Brown was like “fuck that half, I dare you to do it again”, and it worked.

Between that and the Alvarado sub (and probably a few other things I’m not thinking of right now), this might have been the best game anyone’s coached for the Knicks since Holzman.

EDIT: I thought the last play was great, too… I know Brunson missed the shot they drew up but A) it was a quick shot, and B) they drew Wemby out of the paint. I can’t sit here and say he drew it up for a tip in, but I think he intentionally created room for it.

OG and Jalen were the dynamic duo tonight.

But that KAT contested 3 and Jose’s 5 points in the quarter were huuuge also.

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If Brunson was the greatest free agent signing in franchise history, is OG the greatest trade in franchise history?

I think it has to be the deBusschere trade. Knicks had been a .500ish team for several years and were like 22-20 when they made the trade. They immediately become title contenders making 6 straight ECF (including the year they got him), 3 Finals, and 2 titles.

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Jalen’s game will be forgotten given OG’s heroics

44 of the toughest minutes I’ve ever seen a PG play (full court pressure almost every time). 36 pts on 25 shots. 7 assists, 5 rebounds. Carried his team with KAT and Mikal absent again. Hit that ridiculous three over Wemby.

I ain’t ever gonna forget that.

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Maybe to further fuel Hubie’s hatred of Breen (I jest), I can’t believe Brunson didn’t get a bang for his 3 pointer over Wemby to cut the lead to 1.

The OG tip in call was great, however.

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My wife made me turn it back on with the Knicks down four. The Spurs immediately pushed it to seven and I stopped watching.

When they got it to within one and Hart missed the breakaway layup, I actually felt weirdly content. Like even if we lost, we proved our point.

The way it played out at the end, I still can’t really believe it.

Wemby missed a key FT, let’s not forget that little chestnut.

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Its awesome seeing the old Knicks enjoying this run, even Lin said the current team being so good allowed him to reconnect with the franchise and Melo.

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Have to think that was the best game of Alvarado’s career…he was the x factor….

OG wanted the last shot but when brunson launched it…he instinctively made a beeline for the rim…kind of like a heat seeking missile

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That PREcap is fuckin’ sublime! I’m
talking Kant-level shit! Well done, Kevin!

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I think Taylor Swift was only at the Cavs game as Travis Kelce’s plus-one; she wore neutral colors and left the giveaway t-shirt on her chair after the game. Whereas tonight she was wearing Knicks gear.

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Well, I just woke up to a miracle. You’re welcome! Guess I’ll watch the second half tonight when I get home from work. 😂

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Regarding Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce mentioned on his podcast that she only went to the Cavs game because they were playing the Knicks. He laughed as he recalled her saying, “Oh, the Knicks! I know the Knicks!”

They’re one of the few sports teams she’s ever worn a jersey of that team at a game.

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A bit of a silly point is that that OG tip-in should be remembered as one of the greatest plays in NBA Finals history, and it WILL be, but it will be remembered LESS because the Knicks are winning this in five, and people pay less attention to big wins in series that are sweeps and gentlemen’s sweeps.

So that’s unfair for him.

HOWEVER, the “silly” part is, of course, who gives a fucking shit about the legacy of that play if the Knicks win a goddamn title on Saturday?

I wake up in the morning in Europe, reading through the comments as the first thing, not checking any scores before, and it’s the best experience I can think of, apart from watching the game live. Thank you.

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Pretty sure Taylor Swift spends most of her time in New York. Of she’s going to be anything, might as well be a Knicks fan.

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Well, I just woke up to a miracle. You’re welcome! Guess I’ll watch the second half tonight when I get home from work. 😂

So I too missed the greatest comeback in a meaningful game in Knicks history. Cynical take- Silver engineered a massive rise is NBA popularity with casual fans in a most unintended way. That block and tip-in by OG will now rank with Willis walking out on the court in the Knicks canon.

I pushed Kevin’s recap ahead of the Morning robot. Just in case anyone was confused. 😉

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Sam Vecenie made a good point in his podcast: Brown put OG on Fox halfway through this game and he dominated the matchup and basically destroyed the Spurs offense in the process.

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The greatest thing for me is that my son is 11 and my daughter is 14 and they are both experiencing this entire run with me. These are core memories that we are forming together. More importantly, these are lifetime imprinting memories for them. I’m so happy for them. And you know what I’m happy for my old ass as well. I damn near cried with OG tipped that in. It had the same impact that the LJ four-point play did on me, like it did for many of you. One more game to go and Nirvana can happen.

Same for my son and I – what a crazy last quarter that was!
This team never gives up.
ONE MORE TO GO

It is absolutely CRAZY how thin the margins are in these Finals. 4 games in and all 4 games have been within 1 possession within the last 72 seconds (Knicks went up by 4 in game 1 with 71 seconds left). One play here and one play there and this literally could have been a SA sweep.

Meanwhile – great point by someone on twitter – the clock should have started as soon as towns tipped that inbounds pass. If Castle had somehow managed to catch the pass cleanly and get a shot to go, it probably would’ve been reviewed and then reversed — that would have been the only way the end of this game could have been more bonkers.

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This was a great recap btw

Shout out to Rick Brunson. Loved Jalen’s comments postgame about how Rick never lost faith.

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Everyone was talking about where Brunson will end up ranking in the list of greatest Knicks of all time if we win, but OG is doing his best to climb up at least in my favorite Knicks ever list. He’s been our Scottie Pippen out there, a two way star that is always making plays.

Just have to win one more game out of 3, one single game between this team and immortality. I’m still in shock.

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good job BC posting this banner high in the sky…

ummmmm, Kevin exactly what prize did I win…

if it’s simply your undying admiration…yeah uh, thanks I guess…

The Brunson Alvarado thing is interesting… I missed a lot of things last night because I was delirious (I actually didn’t see the OG block on Fox til this morning!), but it really looked to me that despite Alvarado being in there Brunson was still brining the ball up the court and doing most of the ball handling. Did Alvarado actually give us more ball handling than Mikal, or was he just playing better than him? I kind of think it was just the latter, but again, not certain. And I raise this only to suggest that we might not have to go to Alvarado again in game 5 if Bridges just plays better.

Really a brilliant move by Mike Brown to put Alvarado in the game – dude is just not afraid to try different things, even in the biggest games. I am a little surprised they haven’t at least tried 2 PG lineups this series (until last night) – since it was the Kolek Brunson lineups that really popped in the NBA cup game if my memory serves correctly. I am not smart enough to know exactly why it works so well but I am not complaining.
But it sure seemed like they were spamming small/small PNR and getting the ball to Alvarado who was just making much better decisions with it than Bridges or anyone else really.

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Alvarado was a release valve for Brunson

Caitlin Cooper pointed out that he would start out possessions in the corner, guarded by Wemby. The Spurs were running an inverted ghost coverage where Wemby guards the corner man and helps off him to protect the rim. So the Knicks had Alvarado run around and screen and cut, making Wemby chase and recover, over and over.

By this time Wemby’s minutes are getting into the high 30s and he has a new defensive assignment corralling this 5’11 waterbug point guard. It might’ve affected his legs on those 3 missed FTs down the stretch.

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Keep thinking you’re better than us, San Antonio.

The thing that is so funny to me with the 76ers, Cavs and now Spurs is how unhumble these players are after losses.

Maybe I’m misremembering but it felt like when i was a kid, when they would interview players and coaches after playoff losses, they would always at least tip their hat to their opponent and say “we have to do better, etc.” Now it’s like they can’t ever admit they were wrong.

Obviously they want that confidence that they can still win but at what point do you just say “we got our butts kicked.”

I bet even if we win the spurs are gonna not give us any credit. Fuck these young arrogant pricks. You’re getting a lesson from grown folks right now.

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I don’t agree at all that the officiating was not rigged. In the 2nd half it was officiated like it should’ve been all game, and we won by 28. On the 1st they rigged it real hard. And it’s hard to tell if the big deficit at the half was because all our players were playing bad, or if they were playing bad because they couldn’t get in any kind of rhythm with the horrendous officiating. I STAND BY THIS*.

*although Silver and the refs will get a pass because… we won in the end!

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I think the refs made a bunch of bad mistakes/biased decisions that favoured the Spurs, including the two goaltends.

That said, they called a normal game in terms of fouls. Nobody was allowed to play WWE style. So it was not a surprise that Brunson had a good and efficient game.

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the missed goaltending call on Kornet was maybe the worst non-call I maybe have ever seen in an NBA game. It’s been lost in all the craziness of the 2nd half but someone has to bring that up and hold the officials accountable.

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How much money is Mitch losing during the playoffs? He’s been close to unplayable this series. I’m sad that he might have played himself off the team next year.

The refs had as bad a first half as the Knicks did. It was better second half but they were terrible for Q1 and Q2

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Alverado was playing fearless and he is able to handle ball well. That’s exactly the attitude they needed

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Alvarado was a release valve for Brunson

Caitlin Cooper pointed out that he would start out possessions in the corner, guarded by Wemby. The Spurs were running an inverted ghost coverage where Wemby guards the corner man and helps off him to protect the rim. So the Knicks had Alvarado run around and screen and cut, making Wemby chase and recover, over and over.

By this time Wemby’s minutes are getting into the high 30s and he has a new defensive assignment corralling this 5’11 waterbug point guard. It might’ve affected his legs on those 3 missed FTs down the stretch.

No doubt. But Mikal Bridges does all that too when he’s effective. It didn’t seem like a two PG lineup to me in the sense that I thought Brunson was still doing as much ball handling as he normally does. It just seemed like they put Alvarado in to do Mikal’s work bc he was having a bad game.

Again I’m just curious. I missed a lot last night.

I’m off to a music festival (Primavera Sound Porto) but would like to leave this comment i made on the morning thread that now maybe folks won’t read:
“I’m at a loss of words… just happy we have this AMAZING team, that never gives up! And happy to share it with this beautiful community!! 🧡💙”

Oh, and i was also pushing for OG being the Finals MVP on that thread. I think he’s been great and steady!

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This is appalling. I can’t think of a basketball explanation for it

My only explanation is that it looks worse than it is from this angle, but otherwise no excuses.

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The refereeing also has to do with how the Spurs play defense and their reputation. I’m sure if the Washington Wizards played defense like the Spurs do in a random January regular season game they would all foul out by the 3rd quarter.

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One last thing before i go, i promise i’ll read all of this thread and the next one (if there is one) when i get back, Gondrezick (new user?) wrote on the last thread:

Most tickets for Game 5 in San Antonio are being purchased by New Yorkers, with 37% of sales coming from New York.

The get-in price has also surged by $1,000 following the Knicks’ Game 4 win

Top billing states:
• New York — 37%
• Texas — 12%
• New Jersey — 8%

That’s 45% from NY/NJ… San Antonio invaded by Knicks fans? 😀

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Just read that in the second half, San Antonio took 12 trifectas with ten seconds or more on the shot clock. Their execution and basketball IQ in the cauldron is flat out awful, and not even close to championship timber. It’s so bad that it’s almost an insult.

In terms of specific plays, Fox’s attempted layup at the end was one of the stupidest plays you’ll ever see. No one ever does that in the NBA.

I can’t see them shooting or executing effectively enough for the full 48 minutes on Saturday. This one looks over.

This team is fucking undying. Thunder, Cavs, hawks had no true identity at the bottom of their well. Down thirty fold that shit up. If winning ain’t easy then it ain’t for them. This team has a vast reservoir of pure fucking hero once the clean drip drops. Holy shit. I love them. I love all yall.

In terms of atmosphere and atmospherics, from my double-digit floor UES apartment, I could hear the fans — loudly — from a watch party (*) down the stretch of the comeback as I watched the game on TV. And then the various celebratory hoots and hollers as smaller groups of people made their way either home or to their next destination.

Wouldn’t be a proper New York Knicks championship without the “New York” part and that one hit all the “New York” notes.

Top-grade stuff.

(*) That will require further investigation to ID the exact location.

We had a Bargnani moment with the Josh Hart missed layup, they had a Bargnani moment with Fox getting tunnel vision and going for the layup at the end. I still think it was a harder decision for Fox than people are making it up to be, when he gets control of the ball he’s already close to the sideline and it would be real hard to control it and dribble it out without risking a turnover or an out of bounds, but obviously he made the wrong choice. I just don’t think it was a JR Smith with the Cavs level of stupidity play.

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I just woke up. I had the craziest dream. The Knicks were down 29, made the greatet comeback in NBA finals history and my favorite player leaped into the paint and made a putback shot for the win with a second left. I wish it were true…wait what? Holy Shit!

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Okay, so I guess KAT did tip it?

It was still a terrible pass by Harper to ALLOW it to be tipped, though.

Yeah I think what is so satisfying about this team is that they really are the old cliche sports team that digs down deep and just “finds a way.”

In a world and age where sports is dominated by analytics (which has it’s place), it is really refreshing to just root for an old school TEAM that wins. Better than the sum of their parts, never gives up, rah rah rah. It makes me feel like a little kid again, filling me with wonder and hope.

Like seriously, this team makes me want to be a better person. They’re inspiring. It’s fucking magical.

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Somehow missed this from Wemby, another punk attempt:

Holy shit this is disgusting. This is Bill Laimbeer territory. NBA absolutely needs to crack down on this but we all know they won’t.

Yeah Brian, he absolutely tipped it.

Wemby should be suspended.

The Castle play is interesting. I don’t see him step out of bounds. He does seem to hit Hart across the face. In the moment I thought they called an offensive foul.

Gramophone! This is a great, historical document.

How. The. Hell. Did OG tip that in?! It’s one of the craziest tip ins I’ve ever seen from a pure touch perspective, I’d be amazed at it if it happened in the 3rd quarter against the Wizards in January.

I never fully lost faith, but at the half the bar chatter definitely was revolving around our chances of winning a 2-2 series. Of course, with this fucking team people were also saying “if they can just get it to 20…” completely seriously, and as it turns out correctly.

One more and this becomes the stuff of legends.

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Hilariously, my wife (who barely cares about the Knicks) was MUCH more pumped about the OG tip-in than I was, as I was just SO confident they’d find a way to score that when they DID, while I was obviously pumped, I was cool about it, while SHE was freaking out.

So even watching the game with me live, I’m supremely confident in the Knicks. 😉

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By the way, so yeah, had the Spurs scored, it would have just been overturned because of the tip, right?

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Hilariously, my wife (who barely cares about the Knicks) was MUCH more pumped about the OG tip-in than I was, as I was just SO confident they’d find a way to score that when they DID, while I was obviously pumped, I was cool about it, while SHE was freaking out.

lol this is NYC in a nutshell right now, isn’t it? All the people who never cared are going nuts.

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By the way, so yeah, had the Spurs scored, it would have just been overturned because of the tip, right?

I was wondering whether they would have been allowed to challenge and have the cool to realize that the clock should have started earlier?

On the OG play, Fox comes over and doubles the Brunson shot attempt but doesn’t really get near the ball, it’s a weak contest. Brunson probably didn’t even see Fox because Wemby was guarding him, it was an unnecessary double team.

Fox’s weak double of course leaves a huge lane open for OG, and OG glides in to get the iconic tip.

Somehow missed this from Wemby, another punk attempt:

https://x.com/Nickyfries1/status/2065066595962036661

Does anyone have an innocent explanation for this shit? Is he really just a completely reckless asshole?

By the way, so yeah, had the Spurs scored, it would have just been overturned because of the tip, right?

Holy shit, yeah! Though there’s also a world where it doesn’t necessarily occur to the Knicks to challenge, right? Sounds crazy, but I’m not sure KAT would know to raise hell about the possibility the clock didn’t start on time. It’s a relatively obscure thing compared to out of bounds calls, fouls, etc.

OG wanted the last shot but when brunson launched it…he instinctively made a beeline for the rim…kind of like a heat seeking missile

Just watched the replay, the Golden Child was a statue as OG went for the tip. That should be a meme! ( btw- the first time I watched the last 5.7 replay, I cried even though I knew the result)

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I’m still just waking up and haven’t had a chance to read through the thread much yet, but I hope Alvarado got some love here because he was key down the stretch. What a great signing. So was Towns who tipped the ball on the final possession. By the way, the clock should have started the moment he tipped it.

Is he really just a completely reckless asshole?

No. He’s actually a total scumbag POS vermin.

By the way, so yeah, had the Spurs scored, it would have just been overturned because of the tip, right?

well I’ll tell ya mister king of positivity and optimism, while your universal gravity seems to be pretty irrefutable at this point in time, it sure does seem like the game officials are doing all they can not to easily concede…

My 91 year old mother who has watched 4 total basketball games in her life just called me and asked, “That was very exciting. Does that kind of thing always happen?”. I told her, “Yes mom, maybe every 50 years or so”.

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looked like someone stuck a stun baton up his butt and turned it all the way on…serious erratic body movement…

it looked like at some point he may have wanted to try and set a screen, what happened with his body, was something else…

cool or whatever that wemby is seeking out all this contact and welcoming the physicality – hopefully he never realizes his body just ain’t built for that shit…guy is nothing but a body full of overly exposed joints…

This is incredible: the cast of The Gilded Age — in full period costume — losing their shit as they watch OG’s tip in.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DZb7bH8Rprc/

This is incredible, but I don’t see Carrie Coon. I need to see Carrie Coon celebrating this Knicks win, Alan.

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So for me it was a win-win-win.

The Knicks utterly improbably won.

After the two early incorrect fouls on KAT I turned the TV off and sat in bed with a book and a large martini, thus preserving my mental health.

And Little Raven, who is now 17 and hates my obsession with the Knicks because male teenager, turned it on possibly to spite me and kept me updated toward the end, and possibly has accidentally turned himself into a Knicks fan!

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Does anyone have an innocent explanation for this shit? Is he really just a completely reckless asshole?

It makes so little sense that I’m not entirely convinced it’s not AI.

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Here’s another angle of the Wemby on OG play. A little better than the original angle I posted:

Ok at least this looks like Wemby was just moving wrong and made that weird move to avoid a collision. Still weird, probably not as much assholish as we thought.

the best thing to do is always to tell a bunch of people who really just want to be mad together that they should be a less mad.

i don’t think the wemby play is as bad as it looks. i think sochan was holding him as he tried to set the screen, and wemby was frustrated and kind of swung back to push sochan off while angrily (and spastically) jumping to freedom like a ferret being carried out of petsmart by a ten year old. the live game angle of that play was from the center court camera and he wasn’t as close to hitting or aiming for OG as the depth impaired baseline angle made it seem. it was still reckless and goofy.

i don’t think it’s crazy to call wemby pretty dirty in that he does some worse than bush league shit when he is frustrated. the naz reid play in particular was a no-brainer suspension. also as long as everyone hates me already the game was not rigged by zach zarba.

edit: (i see the other angle just got posted)

Alan, I really enjoyed all of the seasons of The Gilded Age before the Knicks celebration. The fact that this video exists is supremely awesome. Maybe, James Naismith makes a Newport appearance…

Is he really just a completely reckless asshole?

No. He’s actually a total scumbag POS vermin.

OK, after seeing the other angle, I’m willing to remove the word vermin, but the rest stands. 😉

This front office converted Guerschon Yabusele’s fat ass into Jose Alvarado. They paper clipped that bum into a guy who played crucial fourth quarter minutes and was a massive part of the greatest win in franchise history.

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Zach Zarba the zebra…

what is this insistence on balance and fairness and whatnot – let the hysteria run wild and naked from our fingertips…

Kevin’s frenzied, fanatical and utterly mad post/thread/present and post cap was pretty freaking amazing…

kinda wondering now though when mister milo may get a thread posting duty one of these days days…

similar to our other premier posters, his word salad is some pretty tasty stuff…

as long as everyone hates me already the game was not rigged by zach zarba.

I’m with you on that.

I said in the game thread these refs seemed innocently incompetent rather than conspiratorial actors.

What they did to KAT was terrible and it influenced the game, but they did the same thing to castle in the second half and that influenced the game just as much.

And we got away with a lot, too.

Overall I think last night the refs might have actually favored us.

After the two early incorrect fouls on KAT I turned the TV off and sat in bed with a book and a large martini, thus preserving my mental health.

Lol swap the martini with a Rolling Rock and that was me. My wife called me to convince me to turn the game back on.

I’m with you on that.

I said in the game thread these refs seemed innocently incompetent rather than conspiratorial actors.

What they did to KAT was terrible and it influenced the game, but they did the same thing to castle in the second half and that influenced the game just as much.

And we got away with a lot, too.

Overall I think last night the refs might have actually favored us.

Concur.

Someone more poetic than me (you there Silverman?) should do a write up of that OG play, because it embodies his greatness so perfectly. It’s not just the tip. He did so many good things on that play. He got himself into position for an open 3 when Fox left him. And Jalen probably should have passed him that ball, I think it was a better shot than his.

What I love about the play so much, though, is that when he didn’t get the ball back he just ran to the rim. I bet you 9 out of 10 NBA players either hesitate or don’t even move because they’re upset they didn’t get the ball there. They feel out of the play and give less effort. I think that thing he did needs more attention. It’s unselfish. It’s humble. And it was fucking beautiful. I just loved it.

I’ll gladly eat shit for the rest of my life for thinking he was overpaid. To be fair, I didn’t think this player wasn’t worth $42M. I didn’t think OG was this player! The guy in these playoffs is worth so much more than what we paid him. This is max player shit. God bless you, OG.

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The thing that bothered me most about the loss on Monday is that it seemed to take the magic out of the run, had no idea that it could be put back!

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I don’t want to complain amid all the euphoria I’m feeling. However…

I wouldn’t mind the first KAT foul if they had been calling that body bump all series. Or if they called a foul like that during the rest of the entire game. But neither happened, and that’s what makes it infuriating. It was just a silly foul call on KAT that felt entirely bespoke for him and him alone.

And I’m already ready for more shenanigans during Game 5.

I just want a consistent whistle, that’s all.

And we’re not getting that, either for nefarious or incompetent reasons.

And we’re still up 3-1! That’s incredible.

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I’ll gladly eat shit for the rest of my life for thinking he was overpaid. To be fair, I didn’t think this player wasn’t worth $42M. I didn’t think OG was this player! The guy in these playoffs is worth so much more than what we paid him. This is max player shit. God bless you, OG.

A guy playing this well in the playoffs in a year where you win the championship obviously isn’t overpaid. That’s a given. Dude’s been phenomenal this spring.

KAT isn’t overpaid at this level, either. They’re one/two in playoff BPM, both at over .700 TS%. Put that together with a less efficient but massively clutch tentpole superstar/straw that stirs the drink, and you get … this.

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I woke up pinching myself to make sure that what I saw last night actually happened. This is just unbelievable!

I truly want this less for myself and more for my wife and kids, and for all diehard Knicks fans who are too young to have experienced the championships. This is a very deserving fan base. And a very deserving team that represents the best of them and the best of this great city.

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I also gotta say… and I’m just repeating myself at this point but whatever… that was one of the best coached games I’ve ever seen. Bravo, Mike Brown. Bravo!

Everyone’s talking about the Alvarado thing and how great that was, but another thing that I think deserves praise is his commitment to the defensive strategy of packing the paint and daring them to shoot even after the Spurs hit like 75% of their threes in the first half. So many coaches would have panicked. We see it all the time when Josh Hart starts making shots. Brown stuck with his guns and dared them to keep doing it, and they shot themselves out of the game.

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Not a big fan of sports talk shows (as in I avoid them like the plague), but Wilbon has a nice bit on ESPN about just how stupid the Spurs were.

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KAT isn’t overpaid at this level, either. They’re one/two in playoff BPM

As long as you got an 8 man championship caliber rotation it doesn’t matter how much anyone gets paid. I know that’s what some people were trying to tell me, but I doubted the premise, i.e. I didn’t think this was a championship caliber combination. Now that it clicked and it is, IDGAF how much anyone makes. Pay ’em all the max!

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Another thing I’m thinking (I had my cappuccino late today so I’m getting the 10am hyperactivity at 12pm!)… they’re going to need a bigger parade!

You will not be able to pack the amount of people who will want to see this thing in the canyon of heroes. You’re going to have to start that thing in Harlem.

“And I’m already ready for more shenanigans during Game 5.”

If there was some Silveresque conspiracy, I think we are past that point. The flagrant on Wemby when we were 29 down is a low-key crucial asset. Another flagrant on Saturday and he misses the next game at the Garden if there is one. I know he is protected but if he lashes out it will be reviewed. I would hate for that to happen, both from a basketball perspective and I want the Knicks to win in style perspective. But I think it will be a small influence on how aggressively he plays.

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You will not be able to pack the amount of people who want to see this thing in the canyon of heroes. You’re going to have to start that thing in Harlem, go all the way down to battery park, then snake around up to city hall.

Cross the damn bridge into Brooklyn and finish it in Prospect Park after slowing down in front of Barclays!

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waiting patiently for all to get some of their exuberant posts out in the world…

what is really possessing my mind at the moment though:

what book were you reading last night raven?

were i to wager – I’d guess something in the non-fiction category…maybe something historical…

Thinking about it, the Josh missed layup/missed rebound felt like the KAT offensive foul in the Cavs comeback. I was sure it was over when it happened.

have to agree strat, as much as I’d like to see wemby banished for the rest of the series – i crave sad wemby at the post presser even more…

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Those Josh Hart plays strangely gave me confidence bc I kept thinking there’s no way the universe will do this to him. He doesn’t deserve being included on future lowlight reels with Charles Smith.

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The thing that bothered me most about the loss on Monday is that it seemed to take the magic out of the run, had no idea that it could be put back!

Serious question: did tonight make Monday worth it?

We have to see what happens next, but if we close this out I think it may have ended up being a blessing in disguise.

The Charles Smith thing is interesting because man, other teams really don’t hold on to their trauma as much as the Knicks do, right?

You don’t hear Utah fans still talking about Karl Malone getting the ball stolen from him with the Jazz up one late in Game 6 of the 1998 Finals, right?

Hell, Orlando fans don’t even really talk about Nick Anderson the way that Knicks fans talk about Charles Smith in a game that wasn’t even the Finals!

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howdy rama, how goes life in mongolia today?

hopefully you brought some knick gear to sport…

more questions to nowhere – is there a distinctive smell in the area there:
– spices
– plants
– animals
– people
– burning fuel (wood, coal)

considering the amount you travel and the distant locations, probably silly to say stay safe, I’d imagine you’re kind of an expert on that by now…

The Knicks tried the two PG lineup because they felt they needed quicker possessions, to create more overall possessions in the game. As it turned out, the double PG attack was incredibly effective, so now that gives the Spurs another puzzle to solve.

Mike Brown has really coached rings around his opponents. We have the horses to beat anybody, but his holistic approach to coaching is really making a difference.

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Everyone’s talking about the Alvarado thing and how great that was

Watching Alvy front and then box out and then foul Wemby with passion was like fictional-sports-movie inspiration times ten.

Those Josh Hart plays strangely gave me confidence bc I kept thinking there’s no way the universe will do this to him. He doesn’t deserve being included on future lowlight reels with Charles Smith.

i literally was about to post the same without the trademark inexplicable hubert/cronin confidence angle. one of my top seventeen emotions last night was just being so fucking happy for josh escaping from the precipice of eternal scapegoat. not only the layup and the rebound but there’s a solid chance that if kat doesn’t tip the inbound he is the winsome spectator frozen in the background of castle’s game winning still shot. that would be such a cruel fate for josh of all people.

in fact the singular lasting moment from last night for me will be the half second when josh was on the floor after fouling wemby following the smoked layup and the gravity of the flub seemed to briefly overwhelm him and jalen, kat, and gta all came over like fucking gangster therapy dogs to snap him up without making a big thing of it.

https://x.com/DJAceNBA/status/2064934878831878503?s=20

I hope someone points out to the league that there might be more value in having Taylor Swift in a Knicks jersey for a winning team than there is in a guy like Wemby being face of the league

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the trademark inexplicable hubert/cronin confidence angle

I do not deserve to be lumped in with Cronin!

I only have confidence in the morning. I’m a quivering pile of jelly by the time they’re checking tickets at the garden.

Brian has been the game thread hero of these playoffs. When all of us are getting tossed in the storm he is the lighthouse steadily showing us the way.

Brian is to the game thread what OG has been to the Knicks.

Brian’s confidence is holding us up like the last jenga block.

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Lol, apparently some Knicks fans threw eggs at Wemby? I don’t exactly condone it, but it’s funny.

This is incredible, but I don’t see Carrie Coon. I need to see Carrie Coon celebrating this Knicks win, Alan.

She’s from Wisconsin, so probably a Bucks fan. Sad.

Lol, apparently some Knicks fans threw eggs at Wemby? I don’t exactly condone it, but it’s funny.

Maybe Wemby wanted a Croque Madame?

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more value in having Taylor Swift in a Knicks jersey

Don’t forget the Haim sisters attracting a distinctly different but no less charming demographic of smart grrrrls. 😉

But I think it will be a small influence on how aggressively he plays.

I said this to my buddy last night when Wemby got called for the flagrant in the second half. That he would play a bit more passively because in the back of his mind he would be worried about getting suspended. And that did seem to be a turning point for us.

The other thing about Alvarado is I think Wemby quite clearly hates the little fucker.

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According to Nekias Duncan, the Knicks scored 1.75 ppp in the second half when running P&Rs at Wemby. They did it 21 times.

I think the Spurs are playing him way too many minutes. 44 is crazy for a big man. And he has to cover so much ground.

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Do you all remember that scene in Moneyball where Billy Beane finally goes out to watch the A’s play and they are about to lose the game, and all of the doubt and negativity about the team flashes into his head, but then the team goes on rally back and win? This Knicks comeback last night, down 29 points, after all of the negativity from Game 3 felt the closest to it I’ve ever experienced in my sports watching life.

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I think the Spurs are playing him way too many minutes. 44 is crazy for a big man. And he has to cover so much ground.

That’s why I’m a little afraid of the next three games because they all have an extra day of rest.

Told my gf that TSwift was on MSG to make her intrigued about nba and the knicks and she told me that Not only Swift but also Hailey Bieber was there too!
🤯🤩🥳

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Great post, Ras. I think we all had that moment last night.

Except Brian, of course. He was chillin’, looking at his watch, wondering why the comeback was starting later than scheduled.

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The other thing about Alvarado is I think Wemby quite clearly hates the little fucker.

Alvy’s in his head ;-).

Seriously though, with all our guys on their back feet and our best player at the moment OG being unemotional to the nth degree, I can’t thank Alvy enough for saying with his voice and play to all (down 29!): “This ain’t over!”

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“I hope someone points out to the league that there might be more value in having Taylor Swift in a Knicks jersey for a winning team than there is in a guy like Wemby being face of the league”

Yeah, 280 million Instagram followers alone, vs. three sour old Parisians discussing the Spurs over en cafe somewhere in the 4th arrondissement…

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Shit it’s almost 1 and I have a meeting at 3 I haven’t prepared for yet. I guess I’ll work.

Still haven’t watched the 2 last Quarters of this game.
I’m keeping them as a dessert after a great meal for my later graveyard shift!

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The Wemby flagrant happened at exactly the Spurs’ high water mark for the series. They were up 29 with nine minutes and change left in the third.

According to NBA.com, that was Anunoby’s 12th tip-in of the regular season and playoffs combined. It was the 7th non-dunk tip-in.

OG is back over .500 from 3 this playoff.

He leads the league in playoff OBPM.

A psych evaluation has determined that OG only has 3 emotions and 2 of them are related to grabbing and not grabbing a microphone.

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i don’t want to take bread off OG’s business manager’s table but i’m picturing a trojan billboard in times square with side by side photos of the moment he got his fingers on the ball and his infamous fractional-head hoodie selfie:

never again say ‘just the tip’

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The other thing about Alvarado is I think Wemby quite clearly hates the little fucker.

That’s why we love him.

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Stupid, pointless question… how many billionaires have attended the last 2 games? At least:

Swift
Jay-Z
Dolan
Dolan’s sleepy friend
Bloomberg
Kylie Jenner
Bob Iger
David Zaslav

According to Google there are ~3030 billionaires in the world, this represents 0.26% of them.

Re: whether KAT tipped the entry pass, and I apologize in advance for name dropping…

… I’ve become friendly with Ben Stiller over the course of reporting my Rod Serling bio (he’s a huge Twilight Zone fan). Since he was sitting right there filming it, I asked him if he could tell if KAT tipped it. He said, “I think so.”

Zach Lowe on his pod with Begley also said KAT tipped it.

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now that I’ve consumed most of the knicks’ game 4 perspective, switched over to listening to some spurs’ talking head homers try to explain/express what happened in game 4…

the taste of salty spurs tears in the morning is sooooooooo satisfying…

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The KAT tip of the inbounds pass is like a little extra Easter egg to the game.

He times the jump perfectly, makes a great athletic play, deflects the pass, and destroys a well designed play that honestly was a very likely heartbreaking layup.

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The 2 most important fingerings in Knicks history happened on back-to-back plays

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is there an msg version of the wu-tang clan halftime performance…

I’ve only found “shorts” of the performance, where folks like to film in that weird portrait view…like it’s still 2010 or something…

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That was a nice cut, Owen.

Hey guys, seriously, if the Knicks close it out, who wins Finals MVP? It seems it’s an absolute three-way tie between KAT, OG, and Brunson. They all clearly deserve it — can you have a three-way MVP?

If I had to guess, I’d say whoever is the ‘clear hero’ of the close-out game wins it via recency bias…

Been thinking about the whole Wemby as the next face of the NBA thing. The growing perception of him as a dirty player would represent a significant departure from the public images enjoyed by the league’s previous Faces. Even those who hated LeBron, MJ, or Magic/Bird would rarely, if ever, refer to their play as “dirty.”

What set all those players apart was an aesthetic component that elevated their games from the merely excellent to something generationally special. Wemby’s skillset for a man his size arguably meets that criteria. But will that be enough to eclipse his increasing dirty rep among fans of the sport? I have no idea how this will all play out but it will be interesting to see how Silver and the league’s marketing poobahs choose to navigate it.

heard some distant rumblings al that your bud benjamin may be planning on putting together some docu-drama of the championship run…

he has such an incredible eye for shots, even with just a phone…

hope it turns out to be true, it’ll be great…

don’t spend much/any time usually on facebook, did take some time to look for more of his game clips…

honestly, the love he expresses there for his parents, may have just put a little dust in my eye…pretty cool stuff…

Edit: found a vid by someone named mourtaz of the wu-tang that ain’t too bad…

That’s why I’m a little afraid of the next three games because they all have an extra day of rest.

I don’t think it’s necessarily an issue of in between games rest, it’s just that he probably needs more breaks within each game and the Spurs can’t afford to give him those breaks.

one thing i won’t worry about – wemby’s public persona, he has like a whole industry behind him, he’ll be more’n fine…

step out of knick fan mode for a moment:

he’s 22 and under intense public scrutiny…could have used the under a microscope analogy, and it would have fit…as we all scour for every angle and magnification of last night’s affair…

plus, he spoke out on the evil up in minny, appreciated that…

limited hard feelings after the series, and after we all get to relish in more sad wemby pressers shortly…

I think in Game 5 Wemby will get a flagrant, gets suspended for Game 6, but the Spurs lose in 5 anyway.

Lol, I just saw my urologist in one of the videos of fan reactions in the arena.

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think about it…wemby is out there wilding out – in all sorts of freaky directions with those way too long limbs – while KAT most likely feels like he can barely breathe on anyone out there…

hahahahahahaha…I want to see wemby help lose another finals’ game…let that be a part of his origin story…

make that now zoonotic and urologist that I’ve had to recently google to figure things out 😊

cranberry juice…lots and lots of cranberry juice…

very much kidding, hope you are well marechal…

Spurs shot 9-27 against OG, 3-16 in the 2nd half

OG led all players with 13 shot contests

He led the Knicks with 3 deflections

He spent 5:03 on Fox, who went 2-8 with 1 TO against him

He spent 3:32 on Wemby, who went 2-7

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I’m hating on Wemby right now because he is the main obstacle in the way of a championship for our beloved team. After this is all over, I’m not sure whether that will be my lasting impression. He’s definitely not doing himself any favors with his words and actions. But he’s only 22 years old, and I tend to cut kids lots of slack. He needs to learn and grow. Since he seems very intelligent, and there is no way getting around that he will definitely be the face of the NBA, he will adapt by either changing his ways or just embracing the role of villain. I’m guessing he does more of the former than the latter.

There really aren’t a whole lot of comparisons for Wemby in NBA history. Mikan, Wilt, Kareem, Ralph, Shaq, maybe Yao, LeBron…are really the only “larger than life” players who were expected to “break the game” when they entered the league in their respective eras. Only LeBron started at such a young age, and he was so strong that he didn’t have to worry about being roughed up. It seems to me that Wemby’s douchiness is at least in part rooted in the way he’s being banged and pushed around.

very much kidding, hope you are well marechal…

Lol thankfully I’ve only been for regular check ups.

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KAT had 35 touches.

Mikal Bridges had 32.

Alvarado had 25.

Obviously KAT didn’t play as much as usual, but that’s still kinda insane. Presumably 10 of those were from his rebounds too.

very unlikely, for a variety of reasons…for the knicks to become: the face of the league would be remarkable…

has certainly felt like an uphill battle…

One other thing I noticed after the game.

OG was being interviewed on the court and KAT comes up behind him and says “I love you, man!”

Just gave me so much joy. Grown man tears were shed last night.

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hope your meeting is going well mister hubie…hopefully your device is quietly tucked away…

thinking though, these might be some useful threads to feed to HAL, you know to get a fuller KB picture…for you know, simulation purposes and, i don’t know, whatever other useful or entertaining things HAL can do…

sadly, I feel myself to soon be primarily speaking with one of HAL’s associates, as opposed to all this typing…

probably need to adjust sooner than later…

anyone out there whom rarely types anymore?

OG was being interviewed on the court and KAT comes up behind him and says “I love you, man!”

Just gave me so much joy. Grown man tears were shed last night.

I noticed that too, and it was so wholesome.

KAT has been the elder statesman of the group. His interviews are all so good.

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Must feel amazing for KAT, after all the bullshit he had to deal with Butler throwing him under the bus, to have a roster that has his back. I feel that even OG was a bit less stoic than usual in that interview, he was showing some fire.

I’ve always suspected that the Butler thing with KAT was Thibs’s doing (*) and everything I’ve seen about KAT’s two years here enhances those suspicions.

(*) At whatever level of encouragement.

KAT seems to be a sensitive soul, but as we have learned recently he is far from soft. He shows a genuine joy when the team does well which is admirable. Id take his character over Jimmy Butlers any day.

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Alvarado was a release valve for Brunson

Caitlin Cooper pointed out that he would start out possessions in the corner, guarded by Wemby. The Spurs were running an inverted ghost coverage where Wemby guards the corner man and helps off him to protect the rim. So the Knicks had Alvarado run around and screen and cut, making Wemby chase and recover, over and over.

By this time Wemby’s minutes are getting into the high 30s and he has a new defensive assignment corralling this 5’11 waterbug point guard. It might’ve affected his legs on those 3 missed FTs down the stretch.

As a younger man, this is how I used to play against a better player. Just run around the whole time on offense hoping to get them gassed covering me.

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The thing that is so funny to me with the 76ers, Cavs and now Spurs is how unhumble these players are after losses.

The first thing out of Mike Brown’s mouth after game 3 was that the Spurs were better that game.

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Well, KAT’s about ready to have one more ring than Butler — so in at least that sense the cosmos sit in proper internal harmony.

Even after wins Mike Brown and the Knick players are pretty humble, it would be hilarious if after they win it all they go off and start talking mad shit.

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trying to be patient and wait for it to end (fingers and toes crossed in our favor) before looking at it too much…the advanced stats page for this series could be historic, or near it…

wemby’s name is going to be tagged with some of that history…hopefully though his sad wemby presser vids will live on forever too…

The Spo quote about the Knicks’ will to win is relevant basically every week with this team.

This is what good coaches do. They don’t have to pretend their team is better or deserved to win.

Even after wins Mike Brown and the Knick players are pretty humble, it would be hilarious if after they win it all they go off and start talking mad shit.

Here’s the thing I wonder: Brunson is maniacally committed to the “we haven’t done anything yet” bit. He will not celebrate, will not smile, will not in any way seem excited until the job is done and the trophy is theirs. And the team has started to really follow suit on that in how they talk in postgames.

So if we do close out the Spurs, will Brunson smile? Laugh? Act excited? Or will he stay all business and immediately start talking about wanting to repeat?

Shamet hugging Alvarado – who took his spot in some ways – and saying “you changed the game” is the energy I need today.

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Also, good highlight cut, no commentary, just the Garden

https://x.com/nickythegood/status/2065081061013373132?s=46&t=0wqff4cNt-sCGcDs-uMExw

I’ve heard a bunch of people in the media (Howard Beck chief among them) try to minimize the Garden by pointing out other places (OKC in particular) are louder.

It ain’t about volume, Beck. Watch that clip Owen posted. Folks in OKC scream for dunks and threes and get loud AF during free throws and timeouts. The Garden understands the cadence of a game. It knows how to give support to the Knicks at the right moment, and how to make the other teams knees quiver in a big spot. And when something good happens, we’re not just yelling. We’re releasing.

Decibels got nothing to do with it.

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conspiratial hat back on…

if a person or group of persons wanted to influence the “flow” of the series – how many people would it take pushing the right buttons so know one else could verify the act…

I hadn’t noticed the quick foul on castle in the 3rd to sit him early with 4 fouls…

wemby finally gets his constantly deserving next tech during the run…

okay, so been watching the games without sound mostly – last night the telecast producer continually kept showing slo mo’s of knick poor plays, sure there was enough to show, but it seemed fashioned to reinforce a narrative…

it was predominantly all knick game miscues most the game, in slow motion…until late in the 4th…

Hey guys, seriously, if the Knicks close it out, who wins Finals MVP? It seems it’s an absolute three-way tie between KAT, OG, and Brunson. They all clearly deserve it — can you have a three-way MVP?

KAT’s out.

OG’s had the best performance. And I bet him the other day at 3500-1 so I hope he wins.

But Brunson is a no brainer. Don’t overthink it. Don’t scrutinize the efficiency. It’s Brunson, and it’s not close. Dude’s been bearing the brunt of the most hellacious defense in the world hyperfocusing on him for every single possession. No one else in the world could do what he’s doing.

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did anyone else get real irritated when the 👽 started with that pointing to the head thing with mitch…

that was some way silly stuff…karma is such a mirror…

if this follows through, one of the top 3 highest usages in a winning performance, I think…eva…

although watching jalen take time off the clock, even when behind, hug the heck out of the ball, not even worrying on passing or scoring until about 8 seconds left on the shot clock, at the end of games, causes me pain…

I think it’s OG, not Brunson. Leading scorers usually prevail, but OG has another great (not necessarily otherworldly) game and Brunson doesn’t score, say, 40 in a closeout, I think he gets the award. Everyone who has a vote – Zach Lowe, Fred Katz, Windhorn – is saying it’s OG as of now.

And frankly, that would be pretty great. Brunson is already in Knicks Rushmore.

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Also, don’t know about you guys, but it is such a weird feeling to be the guy who roots for the team that everyone is now hopping on the band wagon for.

I honestly don’t mind it. I live in freaking Omaha, where no one really gives a shit about the NBA or The Knicks. But in my office everyone knows I’m the guy who used to live in NYC and who loves the Knicks and I wear my gear into work often.

Over the last month during this playoff run, a few more people each week have been chatting with me about the Knicks. But today, it was like a flood. Everyone, even people who NEVER watch any sports at all were coming up to me like “The Knicks OMG! I love this team!”

After supporting a team for so long that was so bad and even the last few years as we’ve been good, having most NBA fans dismiss us..now on the verge of a title…everyone wants on the band wagon and I say come on board!

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I don’t mind the bandwagon, but it’s weird. It’s kinda like when your favorite band blows up. 5 years ago if I saw someone in a Knicks shirt, I knew that was my brother. Now it could be anyone. I remember taking the subway to see Knicks Hawks game 1 at MSG in ’21 (I also remember paying $150 for the ticket), and there was one other dude with a Knicks shirt on. We talked the whole way. Those days are gone.

Also I think people like us should have like special wristbands so we don’t have to wait in line to get into the bar, and there should be seats reserved for us when we get in.

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Also I think people like us should have like special wristbands so we don’t have to wait in line to get into the bar, and there should be seats reserved for us when we get in.

We all need to start wearing Kyle O’Quinn or Noah Vonleh shirts.

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Two fun bits from a Zach Harper piece:

Anunoby had one fewer make (seven) in the second half than the entire Spurs team.

Stat of the game: Wu-Tang finished plus-28 on the night.

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I’ve heard a bunch of people in the media (Howard Beck chief among them) try to minimize the Garden by pointing out other places (OKC in particular) are louder.

It ain’t about volume, Beck. Watch that clip Owen posted. Folks in OKC scream for dunks and threes and get loud AF during free throws and timeouts. The Garden understands the cadence of a game. It knows how to give support to the Knicks at the right moment, and how to make the other teams knees quiver in a big spot. And when something good happens, we’re not just yelling. We’re releasing.

Decibels got nothing to do with it.

Correct — that said, the demographics — primarily more moneyed, more female — of today’s crowds put a ceiling on the noise even at a “frenzied” Garden. I’ve written about the 2021 Hawks crowds and confirmed it yesterday by looking at my phone footage of the end of Game 2, and if you really want to go back in time look on YouTube at something like the first goal in Game 3 of the 1986 Rangers/Canadiens ECF, or the 90s playoff games at Yankee Stadium — and those BITD games have worse sound volume and mixing and quality than today’s broadcasts.

NFL games way back when used to regularly feature so much noise when the visiting team was in the red zone that the QB wouldn’t be able to hear and would back away from the center and raise his hands and tell the ref that. There were rule changes around that. Games routinely stopped because the fans were booing bad ref calls so loudly that the QB couldn’t be heard by the offensive line. That doesn’t happen anymore.

There’s really no comparison. Times change. The tradeoff is that there are *way* fewer drunks in the stands, way fewer fights, *way* less of a perpetual overlay of potential violence. With that atmosphere came way louder organic fan noise. The owners and the buildings gentrified that away every bit as much as Park Slope or Bed_Stuy did.

That said, the Garden is still loud and awesome, easily one of the best buildings in NA pro sports. Probably the best. Way the fuck better than OKC.

“Name 3 Knicks starters from the 2017-18 season” or something of the kind should be our password.

I’ve had several facebook friends who are big NBA fans of other teams post about how they hate to admit it but they love this team.

Last night was a moment that truly broke through into the zeitgest. I have gen Z co-workers who don’t care about sports of any kind at all talking about the Knicks.

It’s rare to have these moments. Other NBA finals of recent years have not had this. I had a co-worker today who is a football guy but, like a lot of dudes in his 40’s loved the NBA back in the days of Jordan say to me “this is the best NBA basketball in 30 years.”

So yeah, Silver. Give in to the Knicks!!!

Yeah it will be. It is what it is though.

We’ll always have knickerblogger though. Maybe we can make this blog password protected?

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“Hey guys, seriously, if the Knicks close it out, who wins Finals MVP? It seems it’s an absolute three-way tie between KAT, OG, and Brunson. They all clearly deserve it — can you have a three-way MVP?

KAT’s out.”

Please be careful with that type of language. I almost fainted (when admittedly catching up quickly) because I thought that KAT would not be playing in Game 5.

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We all need to start wearing Kyle O’Quinn or Noah Vonleh shirts.

Frank jersey and I’m wearing it to multiple games. Make it happen, Mitchell and Ness.

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This is why Silver is an idiot for letting Sam Presti basically write the NBA rules. The league is totally fine – much better even – when big market teams win.

Back in the 80s metalheads were considered misfits and losers.
Metallica came to Athens one month ago and there were 90.000 people in the stadium and a few thousands outside.
The tickets were sold out in about a few hours, one year ago while they became publicly available.
The crowd was so mixed with tv stars, politicians, actors, influencers,”metal tourists”, celebrities, bandwagoneers and other FOMOers that many oldskool original loyal metalheads felt bad for this ultra mainstream situation.
I didn’t give a shit about who came and why, went to the show and enjoyed it like i was 13yrs again!
Success is an extremely smelly shit that always comes with flies!
Embrace it!

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Yeah, right? This is a million times better for the league than Thunder Pacers last year.

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Don’t worry, the 30 new posters will run for the hills once we start displaying our characteristic vitriol for the inevitable crazy takes posted by all of us as the season grinds on.

If you can tolerate the board arguing over something like the 19th pick for 5 straight years or Frank Ntilikina for 8, you’re not a bandwagon fan

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The bandwagon is going to be horrific next year.

True, particularly because you know it’ll consist of fans who weren’t on board through the Dark Ages of the 00s and mostly 10s. They won’t know or respect the purest joy of us here who have. But that’s first-world problems for us.

Just listened to Lowe and Begley. Lowe’s breakdown of how the Knicks are solving Wemby is great. But there’s this part at the end where he talks about whether or not the spurs should move on from Fox… and I gotta ask… who the hell is going to trade for DeAaron Fox??? He’s got a 4 year max extension (the same deal KAT has) that hasn’t even started yet.

They mentioned Minnesota and Houston as teams that need PGs. Can you imagine if Minnesota salary dumped KAT just to end up with Fox at the same price?

Houston is interesting bc we know they want to dump Durant. And the Spurs would be terrifying with Harper at PG and Durant in the Champagnie spot. But would you really take 4 years of Fox to get off 2 years of Durant? And do your in-state rival a huge favor? I wouldn’t.

I think they’re gonna be stuck paying that dude $55M/year to be the backup PG.

I somewhat apologize bc I only partially followed the game online last night. I got back yesterday afternoon from my Vegas conference and, honestly, I missed my son quite a bit. So between that, and handling his bedtime duties, I knew that I couldn’t watch the game bc Knicks Fan Cdiggy can’t coincide with Dad Cdiggy. I texted JK47 a few times and peeped in on the score – I felt myself getting really despondent so i had to switch my focus away.

As my wife and I begin to read the lil guy his bedtime story, JK texts me that the Knicks pulled within 4. But then my Knicks PTSD kicked in: I refused to get roped into a late comeback that I thought was gonna fall short. Then… 15 minutes later, I see an alert up on my phone. I sit up, read it, and my mouth drops down to the bed: it was from the Athletic… “Knicks complete 29-point comeback to go up 3-1”.

My mouth stayed open for like a good 5 seconds. The wife was like, “what?! What is it?”.
Again, I couldn’t really indulge bc it’s we gotta bring down the energy to put this lil boy to bed.

I missed the greatest comeback of my life. And I’m at peace with it only bc I was occupied with the one thing that matters more than the Knicks.

But you know I’ve been on these trolls heads today… hard!

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I have been a mess most of today, still quite hung over…drank a bunch of craft pilsners during the game and sipped scotch afterwards. Trying very hard to not get caught up in my feelings about what should happen or could happen. All I know is that if you asked me before the series started how I would feel if we went up 3-1 after 4 games, I would have said very happy. But I am also more than a little bit nervous, like way more.

But damn, I’ll take it!

On Saturday I’m planning to stretch out on my mezzanine and watch these fake contenders battle for a world championship!

I’m not nervous yet but I will be very nervous if we lose game 5. And I’ll tell you why…

Bit by bit, we’re losing players in this series.

Deuce and Mitch are done, and Landry seems to have used up all his magic.

But Mikal might be disappearing again. He was Atlanta-series bad the last two games. I’m not worried about it yet, but if we lose game 5 and he’s a ghost for the third straight game, I will be in a full blown panic.

So I’m hiking through the back woods of Yosemite National Park today wearing a Knicks cap and coming the other way is a guy wearing a Sprewell jersey.

Almost simultaneously we looked at each other and said “One more”

Goosebumps….

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If the Spurs break out to a first quarter lead again and then play smart and execute and shoot the basketball well and stop Knick runs with execution and making shots and win the game, I’ll be very nervous.(*) They’ve kinda dumb-shitted their way out of this series so far. If they reverse that, it’s definitely something to build on for a young team.

I don’t see it happening, but it certainly could.

(*) Especially given the fading by some Knicks, which Hubert already accurately described.

Has there ever been another NBA title contender constructed so contrary to the conventional wisdom as was this Knicks team?

Incinerating picks for cap space; trading ‘em in bundles for a middling role player rather than using them year after year to patiently “build through the draft.” Deploying assets and cap space not to build a roster of “super friends” but using them instead for an undersized guard deemed a B-list talent… a veteran big man long labeled as soft… a tenacious wing defender with a limited offensive game. And Josh Hart.

Most, if not all, of those acquisitions were widely criticized as overpays at the time they were made. And absolutely no one did foresee that this collection of misfit toys would ultimately mesh into the playoff juggernaut we’re witnessing now. I’m not even sure that Leon saw this coming. Every championship run involves a degree of luck and that so many Knicks players managed to find the best versions of themselves in time for this playoff run is likely due as much to a happy confluence of fortune as it is to the grand culmination of some master plan.

As much as anything, I suspect it’s the unconventional construction of this team and the improbable manner in which all the pieces have come together that has captured the imagination of the casual fan and now has the wheels of the bandwagon groaning under all that added weight.

Any of those guys could easily have bounce back games. Landry had like a 1.000+ TS% earlier in the playoffs so has regressed to the mean and is like at .400 this series, but he could very easily put up a .600 game and it’d be right AT his mean.

Ditto Mikal. I now know better than to doubt Mikal. He’s a flow state kind of player and if he finds that flow, look out.

Mitch and Deuce don’t look 100% physically, so I’m not expecting a lot out of them, but now we have Second PG Alvy cooking so we don’t really need Deuce as much.

We also have a coach with a holistic approach who isn’t afraid to put guys in situations where they can step up, and who will ride the hot hand.

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Any of those guys could easily have bounce back games.

100%

That’s why I said I’m not nervous now but I will be if we lose game 5 and come back home with all those guys still MIA.

I currently feel great about a bounce back game for most of them, and am even optimistic we’ll see the close-out Knicks deliver another cathartic blowout.

Watched the second half again with my son. Something I didn’t realize yesterday: Alvarado played the last 6 minutes on 5 fouls (he had 5 fouls in 9 minutes, and then none in the last 6).

What he did that was helpful was not so much handle the ball. It was super fast movement from behind Wemby to set screens, which forced the Spurs to help off shooters or open the driving lane for Brunson.

@philrosenthal.bsky.social‬
Turner Classic Movies offering a tribute Knicks fans tonight with Spike Lee’s “Do the Right Thing” and Ben Stiller’s “Reality Bites” running back to back beginning at 8 ET.

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It was super fast movement from behind Wemby to set screens

He’s honestly a better screener than OG or Mikal even before accounting for his off-ball movement.

At this point every Knick can go into a shooting slump for rest of the series but I’m sure Brunson will somehow find a way to win 1 more game.

If I weren’t married… and I guess she is now, too? Anyway, I love her to death.

We went into the series thinking that we had the veteran savvy/mental toughness edge. That seems to have made all the difference.

But all of these games have been decided on razor-thin margins.

That’s the only thing that worries me….that we haven’t won a game yet that screams “We are clearly the better team.”

So I am hoping that we stomp them (or eke one out) on their home floor to finish this up. If not, there will be a tremendous amount of pressure on us to win game 6 at MSG, knowing that if we lose we have to back to SA where they just beat us. We can certainly overcome that, as we did last night, but it took SA screwing up royally for it to happen. I’m not sure we can count on that happening 3 times!

In short, let’s just finish this team while their heads are spinning. I don’t care one iota if we win here or there. Home court obviously means very little. One professional 48-minute effort should get the job done.

Tommy Beer on his teammates picking up Josh Hart. I love you Tommy, great work, you are amazing, can’t wait to buy the book…

https://x.com/tommybeer/status/2065154642657657340?s=46&t=0wqff4cNt-sCGcDs-uMExw

Also, It’s part of a leading trend, PTMilo game thread comments ending up as beat articles. Not for the first time….

There are so many what-if moments. Have watched the last three minutes again and again, the NBA released it all. We got so lucky Like with Wemby’s second free throw miss. Towns gets the board and then drills OG in the chest with the ball, who isn’t looking for it. I think KAT was trying to get it to Brunson. That ball could have gone anywhere. So many small things in the last three minutes.

https://x.com/tommybeer/status/2065154642657657340?s=46&t=0wqff4cNt-sCGcDs-uMExw

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A couple of other absolutely crazy smaller moments earlier in the comeback. Alvarado’s corner three that bounced up and rolled around before going in. And I think OG had one like that too.

But I think the moment for me when I really believed we could do it was when KAT made that three right before the shot clock expired as he fell into the bench. He had been taken out of the game so early and struggled because of it so when he hit that it just felt like the belief from everyone started to set in that we could do this yet again.

Before game 3 I had a bad feeling and not only because of Agent Orange – just felt tight, bad vibes, worried about the refs, etc. Then I was thinking of how oddly inverse this series has been of Knicks history in our lifetimes – like some sort of cosmic rebalancing. A bunch of awful moments have had their echo in this run, but with good results. Last night continued the trend…

Ewing finger roll – Josh missed dunk/layup
Result: Knicks lose – Knicks win

Hakeem fingertip on shot – KAT fingertip on in-bounds
Result: Knicks lose – Knicks win

Knicks v. Spurs 1999, win game 3 – Knicks v Spurs 2026, lose game 3
Result: Knicks lose series in 5 – Knicks win series in 5 (???)

There’s more, but I’m still jet-lagged and can’t remember! Just feels like cosmic redress for all the pain we’ve experienced over the decades following this team.

KAT with some sly gamesmanship on that last play

didn’t notice at the time there were some fans screaming in harper’s ear, standing right next to him…

that has to be a bit disorienting…good job fans…

Almost simultaneously we looked at each other and said “One more”

Has a transient state ever felt so poignant.

Just found out that not only did Taylor Swift have a Stevie Knicks teeshirt, but the two young ladies she came with had Knickelback and Knickole Kidman teeshirts, respectively…

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The other two young ladies were the second and third most talented Haim sisters, Alana and Este.

My only real worry about game 5 and (hopefully not) beyond is that it’s way too easy to put a thumb on the scale and call quick nonsense fouls on KAT, thus destroying the game entirely.

If KAT gets to play normal minutes and isn’t on the bench after 62 seconds, we can handle these guys.

But I think the moment for me when I really believed we could do it was when KAT made that three right before the shot clock expired as he fell into the bench.

That was the moment that there was just no doubt, for sure.

Also, don’t know about you guys, but it is such a weird feeling to be the guy who roots for the team that everyone is now hopping on the band wagon for.

I legit love bandwagon fans.

We got some back when Melo got here, and then we had a burst of new fans during Linsanity, and then more fans in 2012-13. Due to being on ESPN’s blog network.

Since that is no longer a thing, we didn’t get an influx of new fans when the Knicks got good recently, but yeah, we are obviously getting more now.

I’m all for it. If they are truly just bandwagon fans, they’ll disappear. And if not, it’s always fun to have new people to talk Knicks with.

Also, as we have all seen, this shit sometimes falls apart QUICKLY. You just have to love the moment when you have it, and if a bunch of new fans want in on that experience, the more the merrier!

I had two different friends messaging me in the game about how they’re Knicks fans now, and I told them both “One of us! One of us!”

My wife was on the phone at the start of the game with a good friend of hers who lives in San Antonio.

Her husband is one of those fancy waiters who make bizarrely good money, and he said it was cool seeing the celebrities, as they all ate at his restaurant, but that there were also non famous rich New Yorkers in town for the game who were assholes, and one dude actually spit on him! And he told his wife that he was almost hoping the Spurs would get swept so that he wouldn’t have to see the asshole New Yorkers again for Game 5.

She was giving me some very good natured grief about the big lead (she got off the phone with my wife to go get dinner at halftime), and I told her, “This is just how these games go. The Knicks will come back in the second half.”

My college friend tried to get into the Nets for a while, but I keep telling her to become a Knicks fan instead, and this was our exchange during the game.

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