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at least at the moment:
Expected Lineup
PG Miles McBride
SG Mikal Bridges
SF OG Anunoby
PF K. Towns
C M. Robinson
MAY NOT PLAY
G J. Brunson Out
Expected Lineup
PG D. Mitchell
SG Norman Powell
SF Pelle Larsson
PF A. Wiggins
C Kel’el Ware
MAY NOT PLAY
C B. Adebayo Out
G T. Herro Out
G T. Rozier Out
this seems a bit more winnable without bam have to contain guys like powell and jaquez tho
I totally remember the Admiral’s quadruple double, I had no idea that that was still the most recent instance of it happening! Of course, blocks weren’t an official stat until the 1970s, but still, that doesn’t explain why it’s been over 30 years since someone has last done it!
I’ll be honest, I’m even a bit surprised that it was even a Grade 1 ankle sprain. The fact that it was actually a sprain kind of concerns me, because that REALLY didn’t look like he did much more than roll his ankle a bit harder than normal. That just makes me worry a bit that perhaps Brunson is more liable to sprain his ankle than other guys who haven’t had as many ankle issues as him.
He’s definitely more liable now. The reinjury rate on ankle sprains is extremely high. Did he sprain his ankle before? I don’t recall.
Yeah, he missed 15 games due to an ankle sprain last year.
And he’s had other ankle injuries, but it seems like more of his injuries have been in the foot rather than the ankle.
https://sportsforecaster.com/nba/p/200616/Jalen_Brunson/transactions
Oh, I forgot that’s what he missed time for.
I’m not KnickFanInCelticLand but a quick google search supports the idea that one ankle sprains makes you more susceptible to future ankle sprains.
Congratulations, Wendell Carter. You’re on my permanent shit list. Say hello to Joel Embiid, Jaime Jacquez, Andrew Lang, PJ Brown, and Denis Potvin.
Was Potvin the guy who broke Ewing’s wrist?
I can only speak from personal experience as someone who played basketball multiple times a week for over 40 years and has sprained his ankles dozens of times, including once requiring a cast for a couple of weeks. I found that after several sprains, the severity of sprains actually decreased, probably because the ligaments were already stretched out from prior sprains. Rather than blowing up like the earlier sprains, they just got a little swollen and sore for a few days.
Not sure if that’s the case with Brunson, but if you look at this video, he really turned it pretty seriously, and then just walked it off. A first-time sprain of that nature would probably have had him writhing on the ground in pain, and out for weeks instead of days.
No, but I edited it to add Andrew Lang (and your ex, Joel, for pulling down Mitch) shortly after the original post.
Crazy part was Knicks signed Andrew Lang prior to the 1999-2000 season and he actually started 10 games early in the season before Ewing returned from his torn achilles. Ewing played the final 62 games of the season, no load management or sitting out back to backs.
So, was Potvin the guy who broke Bernard King’s knee?
sure donnie yes he was ask a stupid question get a stupid answer
That one was actually for you, Doogie!
My dad has been telling me since I was 5 or so that Tino Martinez was on a hall of fame track until Armando Benitez hit him in the back at some point.
I have no idea if it’s true, or even when the alleged career altering HBP happened. But TNFH Sr. is sure of this, so I got an early introduction to these kinds of shit lists.
An obscure one of mine: the National League, for forcing Chien-Ming Wang to run the bases.
When compared to other sports where there is going to be contact, basketball is pretty good at having few dirty plays or players. Part may be that so much of the game takes place in the air and players know what what damage a push can do, part may be the flagrant rules, but I suspect the chief deterrent is that unless you are Bill Lambeer, there usually is someone on the other team that is 5 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier than you ready to defend his teammate.
Charlie Ward was considered a lowkey dirty player when he was on the Knicks.
The 90’s Knicks had a rep around the NBA for being “thugs,” particularly Oak and Mase. Derek Harper was known as very physical and chippy. Folks can decide for themselves whether that rep was earned.
My most hated “dirty” opponents that easily come to mind are Pete Rose, Roger Clemens, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, Kevin Garnett, and Joel Embiid.
It does seem to me that the NBA is going away from ‘dirty play.’ Back in the Charlie Ward/Bill Laimbeer days most teams had one or two players who played with excessive force (and not just brute strength like Moses or Unseld, but nasty stuff). Nowadays there’s Dillon Brooks and at least the earlier version of Grayson Allen (haven’t heard much about his play lately). Not many others seem to cross over to the dark side…
The current Knicks don’t really have anyone like that. I could see taking a swing at OG, but out of frustration, not anger. In truth, speaking of frustration KAT gets frustrated easily and takes some cheap shots at people. More in retaliation, but still.
I remember Benitez hitting Tino Martinez. He’d just served up a 3 run homer to Bernie Williams that blew the game open and in frustration threw the next pitch straight into Tino’s back. He missed a few games, but came back and had an equally good second half of the season, so not sure it derailed his career.
charlie wards rookie season began right after laimbeers final season had ended with no overlap way to take up the torch if true
lol the Clippers are 3-8 and the Thunder still have their pick from the Paul George trade.
Did I say lol? I meant oh shit.
Rick Robey and joe klein were thugs in a long line of Celtics thugs
the wildest thing to me, Hubs, about The Clippers is everyone focuses on how many picks they gave up to get Paul George but the real heist in all of that was taking rookie Shai off their hands.
I mean, the Clippers were a 50 win team that took the Warriors to 7 games in the first round and had rookie Shai on their team and they blew it up for fucking Kawhi and Paul George which got them exactly nothing.
Chase Utley wins my award for dirtiest baseball player I have ever seen. I was a little young to have watched Pete Rose in his heyday but I know for sure Chase Utley was looking to maim every time he was on the basepaths.
Even his name sucks. It’s the kind of name you give to the snobby rich kid in a Rodney Dangerfield movie who gets his comeuppance at the end.
I would say pretty definitively that Sam Presti is the greatest executive since Red Auerbach. Outstanding draft picks? Check. Massive trade wins? Check. Great FA signings? Check. Setting a team up for a sustained period of winning without enormous amounts of luck? Check.
Obviously at some point soon, Presti is gonna have to sacrifice some stars to stay under the apron, but it seems that he can just keep finding studs on rookie contracts to continually fill out the back end of his rotation around a SGA-JDub-Chet core…or even trade one of those guys to acquire more picks as guys on rookie-scale deals blossom into stars.
They might not win it all every year or even get to the finals, especially if Wemby continues to develop and stay healthy, but thank goodness for Knicks fans that they’re in the West.
I hated Utley but didn’t consider him to be particularly dirty, just a good ol’ fashioned country hardball player that had the Mets’ number.
As brilliant as he has been, I think at some point there are going to be diminishing returns to what Presti is doing (if not already).
Look at this:
At some point, OKC is going to have to start releasing quality players or rolling out picks. There are only so many available roster spots and they’ll have so many talented players some will have to be released. Some that are kept will also feel underutilzed at the end of the bench and want out etc..
Maybe he can do some consolidation of picks, but I think sharp teams should keep an eye on OKC for some potential nice pickups in coming years as he sheds NBA caliber players he can’t fit.
Strat, they can consolodate those picks to trade up, or use them in consolodation trades. Even if there are diminishing returns, they are so stacked, they don’t need the same kind of value return to sustain excellence. That work is already done.
Watching highlights of the Yankees Royals playoff games from the late 1970’s is pretty wild, take out slides at 2b was crazy not to mention getting into fights on the field and nobody gets ejected.
Since we helped him get 3 of his best players, it would be nice if he keeps us in mind if he has to sell guys like Aaron Wiggins for 10 cents on the dollar.
“Fourteen charged in New Jersey betting ring that allegedly involves college athletes, mafia”
Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Call me crazy but last couple of seasons I’ve watched plenty of OKC games and I just don’t really see it. Like I know they’re great cause the stats bear it out and yes defensively especially in today’s NBA they are truly elite but outside of SGA and to a lesser extent Jaylen Williams I don’t see all this great talent.
They do seem a bit more vulnerable come playoff time as we’ve seen past couple of seasons but yeah even I’ll admit I’d be shocked if they don’t win at least 3 or 4 more championships in the next decade.
I agree with all that.
My major point was that eventually they’ll have so much talent and be so deep some decent NBA caliber prospects are going to leak out. Other teams might be able to pick up some good talent that didn’t make the early cut in OKC. Then you never know, one of those could end up being really good.
IMO defensive talent is still underrated relative to offensive talent.
OKC is a great defensive team.
IMO great defense is more stable than great offense.
IMO, their offense is also more stable than many teams because they can score efficiently inside, in mid range or from 3. They are not obsessed with and heavily reliant on 3s. They can take what the defense is giving them.
IMO they are close to a perfectly built team.
They are defense first, offense second and the offense is diverse and stable. It’s not all 3s.
I know from my own experience that whenever I am badly off about a team (non injury related), it’s usually because I underrated their defense or didn’t pay close enough attention to how the bad the defense was because they were so loaded on offense.
You crazy.
Though, I do remember young Donnie saying almost the same thing about the 90s Bulls, even 3 rings deep. So I crazy too.
The thing with the Thunder is when they’re in a close game, they don’t seem all that great but when they get rolling defensively you’re just dead. In almost every playoff series they had (the pacers being the lone exception) there were 2 games the other team had no chance in bc they couldn’t even bring the ball up. They seem a lot better this year, too. Ajay Mitchell is huge now.
It’s kinda wild we have Jokic and them at the same time, one the greatest individuals and one of the greatest teams, both at their peak.
The craziness embedded in BBA’s “call me crazy” is the lack of appreciation for how good Chet has become. The dude would have easily been the first pick in the draft if it wasn’t for his skeletal frame coming out of college. Chet is basically a low-key superstar. He’s putting up 23 and 10 plus 2.6 stocks per 36 and has a .718 TS% on 22.3% usage. He’s shooting 38% on 3’s on decent volume. He has a .449 FTr and hits 88% from the line. The SGA-Chet-JDub core is one you can build around for a long time.
Beyond that, Presti is obviously the best in the NBA at evaluating players and transactions. Presti found Wiggins, Joe, JWill, and Ajay in the second round, and Dort as a UDFA. He could sacrifice a very promising player in Giddey to snag a low-cost all-defense wing in Caruso without any worry about what Giddey would become. He has Diebng and Topic waiting in the wings. And he can deal anyone outside his big-3 without missing a beat.
Most of us saw this coming for a long time, but it’s turning out even better than I had imagined.
Isaiah Joe was drafted and then cut by the Sixers for some reason.
Idk if it’s so much Presti has an unusual ability to evaluate talent, but that front office seems good at identifying guys who could turn out to be useful and then drafting so many of them that you don’t even remember the guys who don’t make it. They might also be better at developing players than most other teams.
I worry this applies to the Knicks with their offense being so good. People keep posting that our defensive rank is ok, but it just doesn’t look very good to me.
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