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Knicks Morning News (2024.06.01)


  • Bold predictions for 2024 NBA offseason, including big Knicks moves – sny.tv
    [sny.tv] – Fri, 31 May 2024 16:03:23 GMT
    1. Bold predictions for 2024 NBA offseason, including big Knicks moves
    2. Jalen Brunson-Isaiah Hartenstein pick-and-roll, dominant Knicks starters and more
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    4. 1 trade and signing that could make New York Knicks title contenders
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  • Why Isaiah Hartenstein could be the best big man available on the market – Yahoo Sports
    [Yahoo Sports] – Fri, 31 May 2024 13:46:58 GMT
    1. Why Isaiah Hartenstein could be the best big man available on the market
    2. Another report it’s going to be next to impossible for Knicks to keep Isaiah Hartenstein
    3. Fischer’s Latest: Hartenstein, Thunder, Claxton, Valanciunas, Cavs
    4. Knicks Rumors: Isaiah Hartenstein’s NBA FA Contract Could Be ‘Upwards’ of $100M
    5. Thunder Could Become Serious Suitor for Free Agent Isaiah Hartenstein, per Report


  • Julius Randle ‘would love’ to stay with Knicks long-term as uncertainty looms – New York Post
    [New York Post] – Fri, 31 May 2024 20:31:00 GMT
    1. Julius Randle ‘would love’ to stay with Knicks long-term as uncertainty looms
    2. Breaking down Jalen Brunson’s star card, Julius Randle’s future and more
    3. Knicks’ Julius Randle Gives Shoulder Injury Update, Says He’s ‘Healing Up Great’
    4. Randle wants to be part of something special with the Knicks
    5. Julius Randle ‘healing up great’ and ‘excited’ about Knicks’ potential


  • Knicks projected to draft Indiana’s Kel’el Ware with No. 24 pick – Posting and Toasting
    [Posting and Toasting] – Fri, 31 May 2024 10:00:00 GMT

    Knicks projected to draft Indiana’s Kel’el Ware with No. 24 pick


  • New York Notes: Nets, Tsai, Brunson, Knicks, Randle – hoopsrumors.com
    [hoopsrumors.com] – Sat, 01 Jun 2024 00:00:00 GMT

    New York Notes: Nets, Tsai, Brunson, Knicks, Randle


  • Jalen Brunson: Narrative That Knicks Lost to Pacers Due to Injuries ‘Pissed Me Off’ – Bleacher Report
    [Bleacher Report] – Sat, 01 Jun 2024 04:18:45 GMT

    Jalen Brunson: Narrative That Knicks Lost to Pacers Due to Injuries ‘Pissed Me Off’


  • Knicks’ Johnnie Bryant to interview with Cavaliers for head-coaching job – New York Post
    [New York Post] – Sat, 01 Jun 2024 02:47:00 GMT
    1. Knicks’ Johnnie Bryant to interview with Cavaliers for head-coaching job
    2. Sources: Cavs clear to interview Johnnie Bryant, Chris Quinn
    3. Cavaliers coaching search: Cleveland to interview Kenny Atkinson, James Borrego among others
    4. Report: Cavs can interview Warriors’ Atkinson for head coach vacancy
    5. Cleveland Cavaliers coaching dossier: Kenny Atkinson just fits


  • Stay or Go: Should the Knicks re-sign Precious Achiuwa? – sny.tv
    [sny.tv] – Fri, 31 May 2024 13:51:54 GMT
    1. Stay or Go: Should the Knicks re-sign Precious Achiuwa?
    2. Knicks Forward Named Dream Candidate for Grizzlies
    3. Report points to Precious Achiuwa as someone who could man the middle for the Grizzlies
    4. Knicks Face Tricky Decision With Young PF


  • Knicks Named Surprise Landing Spot for Superstar but Would Have to Move Randle – Heavy.com
    [Heavy.com] – Fri, 31 May 2024 15:44:32 GMT

    Knicks Named Surprise Landing Spot for Superstar but Would Have to Move Randle


  • Knicks projected to draft Virginia’s Ryan Dunn with No. 25 pick – Posting and Toasting
    [Posting and Toasting] – Sat, 01 Jun 2024 10:00:00 GMT

    Knicks projected to draft Virginia’s Ryan Dunn with No. 25 pick


  • Milwaukee Bucks Superstar Listed As New York Knicks Dream Target – Wisconsin Sports Heroics
    [Wisconsin Sports Heroics] – Fri, 31 May 2024 14:39:37 GMT

    Milwaukee Bucks Superstar Listed As New York Knicks Dream Target

  • 36 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.06.01)”

    Happy Pride everybody. May all your panties have much uproar. Stay hydrated.

    Taking my son to the Darryl Strawberry number retirement game. Splurged for good seats. Straw was probably my favorite Met of all time, and I go back to the ’69 Mets. He is far from a perfect citizen, and wasted some of his enormous gifts away. He paid a heavy price for his poor decisions. Even with his fall from grace, I tend to be more forgiving of guys who grew up in tough circumstances, and who have been humbled as he has. I will be happy to honor him today for the joy he gave me back in the 80’s, remembering how he was the first ray of hope for the Mets after a godawful stretch, and that he delivered on at least some of his promise.

    Happy Pride, y’all!

    Since it’s so quiet in here, I’ll see if I can generate some yak by pointing out an interesting thing from yesterday, where someone said we were a bit spoiled (or the equivalent, too lazy to look) because we had Quick as the point backup.

    But I distinctly remember that there was the constant drumming of “he’s not a point guard, he’s a two playing point!” about Quick. Even as he got better and better at it.

    Which is exactly what I hear from people about Deuce. So you know, I wonder if maybe Deuce, being a workaholic and already surprising the hell out of me with his newfound deep ball, Brunsonesque moves in the paint, and drives to the basket, might, you know, actually work hard over the summer at his handle and with his passing and initiating.

    Inbounding is on Thibs. Man’s gotta hire an inbounding coach.

    IQ and Deuce have two things in common: a huge heart and a tireless work ethic.

    Both are going to continue to make incremental improvements in their respective games. But every player has a ceiling. Where is IQ’s ceiling? Where is Deuce’s ceiling.

    Personally, I don’t see IQ as a ever being a starting PG on a contender unless it’s kind of a Mario Chalmers/Derek Fisher kind of situation. Could it happen? Sure. But I doubt it.

    Same with Deuce, only more so. But I’d rather have Deuce on his deal than IQ on whatever his next deal is. And on this team, he doesn’t have to have a high ceiling.

    I brought up the need for a back up PG the other day but I do think you could be right about Deuce. There’s no reason to think he can’t improve his PG skills enough to become a serviceable back up PG. especially if we bring over Rojas and with a healthy Randle and Hart moved back to the second unit, we should have enough PG skills when Brunson sits to spend our money elsewhere.

    Happy Pride Day to all!

    I 100% agree with you Raven. Point guards take time to develop. I believe Deuce is continuously improving. We have him locked up on a cheap contract. I don’t think you can expect a rookie to come in and outperform him.

    Taking my son to the Darryl Strawberry number retirement game. Splurged for good seats. Straw was probably my favorite Met of all time, and I go back to the ’69 Mets. He is far from a perfect citizen, and wasted some of his enormous gifts away. He paid a heavy price for his poor decisions. Even with his fall from grace, I tend to be more forgiving of guys who grew up in tough circumstances, and who have been humbled as he has. I will be happy to honor him today for the joy he gave me back in the 80’s, remembering how he was the first ray of hope for the Mets after a godawful stretch, and that he delivered on at least some of his promise.

    Welp! Someone lost their Miles Bridges moral high ground on his way to bringing the whole family out to honor a wife beater.

    There’s a whole day for Darryl, huh? Hypocrisy of this magnitude makes me think it might still be a good idea to buy low on Bridges.

    howdy KB, woo hoo – summer has begun…

    remember to have a good day – on purpose…or as one of my grand parents were fond to say – don’t let the bastards grind you down…

    he was cajun, so he ended most of his sentences with the word: babe…

    Is Hubert the brother of Bob Neptune? Inquiring minds want to know…

    oh, and another thought…it’s okay not to be okay…

    it kinda though reminds me of another ma side family saying though: don’t show your ass in public…

    as a kid i used to always get that confused with the don’t shit where you eat saying…

    as it so happens, currently on dad duty (i am just trying to survive summer break 🙂 )…

    right now find myself preaching modesty and humility a lot…in small ways, in loud ways…my nerves are up – which means i’m more direct with folks than usual (it’s military me)…

    As a Yankees fan is it messed up to mention that Straw won 3 championships with the Yankees and while he was just a supporting player for them he hit more career playoff HRs as a Yankee than a Met!

    From Charlotte Steinberg(?):

    The Knicks have called the Pels about “Brandon Ingram and Jose Alvarado. Mitch, Bojan, and others would be sent out. Both team[s] would swap 39.7 million in salary.”

    Ingram would be a great sixth man, but I don’t know how willing he is to do that

    Interesting trade idea. My first reaction is no, but it’s not a horrible idea. Seems like a crowded front court…

    I thought the same as I haven’t watched the Pels much, but on BBR it says Ingram played 72% and 68% of his minutes at the 2 the past 2 years…

    If Ingram plays at the two, can he actually defend shooting guards? I’m really asking, because I have no idea. Alvarado’s stats make him look like a competent backup point guard, and maybe better than competent

    I am intrigued about Ingram… he’s still pretty young, he can shoot 3s and create some offense for himself, and he’s become a more willing passer lately. He brings some size, but not a lot of physicality or defense, so I’m not sure how he’d fit next to OG and Randle, but I could be sold on the idea for the right price.

    It would be tough to lose Mitch on his amazing deal, but he’d be going to his home state…maybe he’d be happy with a trade there.

    Ingram seems to be hurt every year, but so does Mitch. He also seems to lack some grit. He’s on an expiring deal, so maybe in a lesser role he’d be a good fit as a long 2 next to Brunson. I would need to do more research on him to determine whether he’d be a good fit in this team’s culture.

    Here’s one interesting take on Ingram.

    Let’s be clear. Ingram shouldn’t be in trade rumors. But his reluctance to shooting three-pointers has forced his hand. The 6’8 wing possesses so many tools that make him attractive in today’s NBA, such as playmaking chops, effective ball-handling, rebounding prowess, and overall shot-making.

    However, that is all negated by the fact that Ingram looks more and more like a new era version of DeMar DeRozan, a player who can’t seem to get out of his own way, due to his insistence on basing his diet on mid-range shots.

    Unlike DeRozan, Ingram doesn’t make up for it by generated a high amount of free throws. He used to cash in just enough three-pointers to make it worthwhile, but after scaling back on the shot (3.3 attempts per game after the All-Star break, and just 2.0 in the playoffs), it’s fair to wonder if Ingram is capable of building a sustainable offensive game that’s efficient enough to play off of Williamson, who requires space to operate.

    Generally, most stars need to have spacing optimized around them to do their thing. Ingram, it has become clear, is a complementary high-end starter, and thus his pathway to success is by embracing the concept of elite efficiency.

    That starts by balancing his mid-range shot diet with more outside shots, and in an optimal world the three-pointer would get more attention than the mid-range area.

    Instead, Ingram seems to insist on the formula being the other way around. Not only does that send a worrying signal to the Pelicans, it’s also lowering his trade value as most teams would prefer floor spacing, as to what Ingram currently offers.

    I’m not bothered by his playoff performance because it’s such a small sample size with a bad team against a very good team. For all that matters, the only other playoff series he played in he did very well against the Suns in 2022 in 6 games.

    He does have a worrying tendency to try to play the game like kids these days imagine the 90s were all about in their fantasies, full of fancy pull up midrange jumpers, but he is clearly capable of shooting 3s historically and as a 2nd or 3rd option on offense his shot creating skills are bound to be more valuable.

    Like I said, I’m not sure, but I’m intrigued by the idea. If the Knicks can’t find a star anywhere, he would probably be at the top of the list of the non-superstar players I’d look at for the right price.

    When teams are willing to dump their 26-year-old former All-Star, I don’t think you should want a piece of that.

    “When teams are willing to dump their 26-year-old former All-Star, I don’t think you should want a piece of that.”

    Yeah, there’s that.

    I get the argument, but our superstar was dumped by a team unwilling to pay him 55 million over 4 years, so…

    Front offices can be stupid very often, and it’s not like the Pelicans are an example of great management in the first place.

    When teams are willing to dump their 26-year-old former All-Star, I don’t think you should want a piece of that.

    I am agnostic on this as I don’t know the player well enough, but he was a one time all star 4 seasons ago, not a perennial all star. He is looking at a substantial extension.

    NO had the 27th attendance with the 10th highest payroll, that can’t be a good fiscal deal for them. Jonas Valanciunas is unrestricted and cost controlled Mitch probably looks good to them.

    This is what front office people get paid to evaluate.

    I get the argument, but our superstar was dumped by a team unwilling to pay him 55 million over 4 years, so…

    Dallas definitely did not dump Brunson. They wanted him, they just wanted to also keep their options open in terms of possibly packaging him with picks to get a star player. It was a terrible decision by them, but it wasn’t them dumping him. They fully believed that they would be able to re-sign him if they didn’t trade him.

    The history of teams actually regretting dumping young stars once they decide to dump them is very small. NBA teams make dumb decisions all of the time, they tend not to dump young stars who are under team control. It’s a major red flag.

    That sounds precisely like dumping to me, but outside of a semantics argument, why are we convinced the Pelicans are willing to dump Ingram anyway? Dumping for me means getting rid of someone for a low return or no return at all, what the Bulls are reported to be willing to do with Lavine now for example.

    The other report we’ve gotten about the Pelicans is that they want to negotiate with Atlanta for either Murray or Trae, which doesn’t sound like a dump at all, more like a sideways move with the idea that these guys fit better with Zion on a roster than Ingram does. For all we know there’s no way the Pelicans will simply trade him for Bojan + Mitch plus whatever crap we can throw together unless there’s a ton of picks involved they can reroute somewhere else for someone they think fits Zion better. That still wouldn’t mean they’re dumping Ingram, it would mean they think Zion + Ingram doesn’t work, which is a very different situation.

    And frankly, if they do want to dump Ingram for Bojan + Mitch and nothing else meaningful, then I’d gladly take him off their hands because it would be a very low cost flyer to take.

    It’s an interesting premise, Brian. And one that is consistent with my gut feeling. On one hand, there’s something about Ingram that doesn’t feel right. On the other, the Pels are kind of a mess and maybe it’s about his role being to big and what it would take to keep him.

    And that’s the rub. If you are considering Ingram just to be an offensive version of OG, meaning a third option on offense that can give extreme length at the 2, plus shot creation and scoring both on and off the ball, especially with the second unit, there’s far less risk than what the Pels would be taking by extending him. But there’s definitely some risk.

    In any case, I just don’t see it happening. But it’s worth a long, hard look.

    The Pelicans have two forwards each making $36M, Williamson and Ingram. It makes sense they would rather have two good players who are less redundant. I’m not sure their possibility of trading him should be thought of as dumping him. But that makes me wonder at the proposed deal. Getting Mitch and Bojan in return doesn’t seem to be enough for them if they want usable players who fit well with Zion and not draft picks.

    A post-trade starting lineup of…
    iHart
    OG
    Randle
    Ingram
    Brunson
    …would be a handful.

    I would assume that DDV and Hart were on the bench. Plus Alvarado, if he’s part of the deal.

    Is Deuce still here? Precious? Burks?

    A bench unit of Alvarado, DDV, Hart, Ingram, and a decent backup C would be pretty damn good. You could mix and match the other starters in so that everyone gets good minutes and consistent rest.

    It’s not the worst plan in the world.

    lol if Dallas “dumped” Brunson then why did Cuban file a tampering complaint with the league against us?

    Cuban got cute and didn’t lock Brunson up for cheap when he could. Hardly dumping.

    The history of teams actually regretting dumping young stars once they decide to dump them is very small. NBA teams make dumb decisions all of the time, they tend not to dump young stars who are under team control. It’s a major red flag.

    I think Mr. Porzingis was dumped twice by two different teams incorrectly and Boston is quite thrilled Dallas and the Wizzards did so. i’m sure there are many more examples if one thinks about it. It is the nature of the beast. Talent isn’t the only marker here. That is why they put erasers on the ends of pencils…. people make mistakes all the time.

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