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Now this is a spicy 40-points burger, well done JB*!
Both Burks (+13 in 18 minutes) and Bojan (+7 in 24 minutes) did something useful and Thibs was able to use them in a game where OG didn’t look right at all (I’m mildly worried) and DiVo’s powders were wet again**.
The Hart Foundation did his usual job under the boards (I-Hart 14 and 4 blocks, J-Hart 13) and overall the defense was really pointy, keeping the Kings at 91 isn’t an easy task.
Very good win, 5th consecutive game we held the opponents under 100-points and an OG-fueled little 3-games winning streak.
Next stop the Warriors… Let’s Go Knicks!
* But a 2:6 AST:TO isn’t pretty at all.
** He’s shooting 34.8% in 7 March games (31.7% 3FG%) and 36.5% (34% 3FG%) in 12 post-ASG games. Can we say he’s slumping?
I’m not too worried about OG. It didn’t look like his elbow was hurting him. Just his shot and timing was off last night but the defense will always be there. He’ll come around.
I think rust has to be expected, just like some little discomfort post-surgery, that probably hampers his shooting motion a little bit, while his defense is already back to All-Defense level.
He completely changes our team so it’s great to have him in time to round into form before the playoffs.
I watched the final six minutes and I still can’t believe how badly Brunson pantsed (I think) Keon Johnson. Not sure I I have ever seen anyone beaten so badly in a big moment.
https://x.com/benritholtznba/status/1769220732393775377?s=46&t=0wqff4cNt-sCGcDs-uMExw
Mitchell said his injury was still bothering and that he would sit out tomorrow’s game against Indiana. The Knicks have two really tough games coming up – especially if they continue to shoot poorly – but there’s a prime opportunity to try to move out of the Boston side of the bracket.
Hartenstein made two plays that illustrated why I think he’s a better overall starting (i.e. finishing) C than Mitch. One was the drive left on Sabonis for the and-1, with a swished FT. The other was the pass to Brunson on a cut for a layup and-1 (Brunson missed the FT.) Those were monster skill plays in crunch time when the Kings were at maximum defensive intensity and beating the shot clock was an issue. It would be awesome to get Mitch back, but I hope he is more of a second unit guy upon his return.
It was ugly at times, but a really good win, Sacramento is pretty good and I thought they played some excellent defense at times. The refs also allowed the game to become a slugfest which I’d say benefits our style more.
I’m not even thinking about seeding because the east is all screwed up right now. Orlando is 5th, Indiana is 6th, and then Miami and Philly are both in the play in right now… wouldn’t you rather face Orlando or Indiana than potentially get the Heat or Philly in the first round with Embiid back? But those 4 teams are also like 3 games away from each other (and so are the Knicks) so it’s impossible to know how the pieces will fall.
The Knicks never really fell out of 4th while playing a bunch of games without OG. They’re not going to fall out of fourth now.
The thing that struck me last night about the Kings is that they’re really one of those teams that relies purely on talent. They’re talented enough that that isn’t a big deal most of the time, as when the going is good, they’re all happy (New Orleans is like this, as well. Both young teams). When they get punched in the mouth, though, they really seem to collapse a bit (when Sabonis tried a full court bounce pass down by 2 with, like, five minutes to go, I just thought, “Oh, okay, these guys aren’t serious. That’s very good news for the Knicks”).
That typically bodes really poorly for them in the playoffs (same with the Cavaliers. The Cavs have won some monster comebacks recently, but they were mostly based on some fluky shooting from Strus and Wade). I would be shorting the Kings, Pellies and Cavs for this playoffs easily.
The Magic are a bit more interesting, in that I think they’re probably more reactive to coaching, they just don’t have enough shooting. I don’t think the Magic are going to collapse when they get hit with adversity, at the very least.
The key, of course, is that we know the Knicks will never quit when the going gets rough. Thibs is all about that fight.
Was this really Burks first decent game as a Knick this time? I can’t think of any others
I don’t know if Mitch will be back and I don’t know who they’d start if the situation arise.
But I-Hart, while not a great (72.8% season 69.3% career), is a way better FT shooter than Mitch (36.8% season 52.0% career), so I have a little preference about who should play in close games…
P.S.
I was very impressed by the sheer amount of space I-Hart covered on defense yesterday.
More than once he went close or beyond the three point line to help and then run back in time to protect the rim.
You kind of expect this from an healthy Mitch, not from a player dealing with achilles soreness…
Some of Brunson’s shots last night were ridiculous, he gets bottled up down low and somehow finds a way to get a shot up (and in).
The guy is a freaking 6’ 1” magician
Burks and Bogdanovic were terrible early om, but the buckets they got in the 4th were key for the win. I haven’t commented much on the trade because I don’t think it’s fair to evaluate it now, specially since everyone involved seems to be cursed and unable to hit shots ever since (Grimes is 13/70 on field goals in his 6 games with the Pistons!!).
I just can’t believe two 40% 3 point shooters have simply forgotten how to shoot, so they’ll be fine. Our playoff hopes depend on how well Randle comes back from his injury anyway, so that’s when we’ll have a clearer picture of how it all went.
If you define slumping as playing at a level significantly below one’s career norms, sure.
As an observer, “cromulent” and “regression to the mean” are two of the most commonly use phrases around here. They both are accurate descriptors. DDV is experiencing regression to the mean.
He has over 8500 NBA minutes and a record of a player who is competent on all sides of the ball and a somewhat better than average all around player whose offensive efficiency numbers have been trending up throughout his career. He is on a recent, long and bargain basement contract, with terrific value. This is all demonstrable.
However, he isn’t the second coming. He had a month of December where he shot the ball like the love child of Steph Curry and Klay Thompson with a supernova, hotter than the Sun-run of a higher TS% than Curry ever booked when he played 5 or more games in a month. Any objective soul knew that was unsustainable. He didn’t morph from a 37.2% career 3 ball shooter to a 49% 3 ball shooter. Might he settle in as an excellent +/- 40% 3 point shooter, certainly possible, but he is currently experiencing the evil twin of being on a heater.
Yeah, those guys should be fine in their proper roles on this team. They are simply not in their primes any more and can’t handle starting-level responsibilities. But the shooting should stabilize as they get more comfortable. Road games probably help.
It also probably helps that Thibs has them on a short-ish leash.
but he is currently experiencing the evil twin of being on a heater.
Sort of coinciding with the departure of his evil twin
Well played, Sir!
Yeah, DDV reminds me a lot of Starks, huge heart and lots of talent and athleticism but with a ceiling that could be exposed against certain players.
I love IHart and I hope we resign him and he plays the rest of his career here but I am not ready to say he is better than Mitch. I think both have strengths but overall I think Mitch is just a bit more impactful and disruptive on the defensive end.
In my opinion, the best scenario once we are healthy is the two of them splitting the minutes almost even so both are constantly rested. If that happens, Mitch should start and play all of his minutes with the starters and IHart should come off the bench and play all of the bench minutes plus a little more with the starters. With Randle healthy we do not need IHart’s passing as much and we can utilize his passing to help organize the 2nd unit which desperately needs more playmaking.
Overall, I think the starting unit will benefit more from Mitch’s disruptive defense and his better finishing near the basket, and the bench will benefit from having another playmaker in IHart.
Mainly though it will be awesome to have 48 minutes of elite defensive play from the center position again and we need to keep both for as long as we can.
Really interesting to read about what we’ve been seeing, which is refs not calling things much. Two articles in The Athletic, one Katz’s on the game last night and another about the Lakers-Warriors game, both talked about how the refs are letting things go more like in the playoffs, likely because of the crazy scoring binges going on earlier.
I think this hugely favors the Knicks because they’re very physical anyway. They so remind me of the 90s Knicks, except our Patrick Ewing is only 6′ 1″.
IHart is arguably a better all-around player than Mitch, and the advanced stats back that up. He is close to Mitch in every category where Mitch has the edge, and far, far better at certain things that make a huge difference, like passing, scoring outside of 3ft, and FT shooting.
I don’t get the point about “we don’t need iHart’s playmaking as much when Randle is back. Playmaking is always a good thing. Let Mitch feast on the boards against second units and have Bojan’s back on D.
How much of a difference does it make to have a center who can space the floor all the way out to like 7′ from the rim? Hart’s taken 27 shots all year from outside the 3 second area
I can’t feel strongly about who we should start between a fully healthy iHart/Mitch because if that problem really comes to pass I’ll be too god damn happy to care too much. My guess is this season we’ll gravitate towards iHart provided his health continues to be sturdier, and that seems like the right decision.
I do think we should make keeping iHart a priority, and though it’s kind of a weird, atypical way to build a team I really don’t mind having a lot of money tied up in both Mitch and iHart. You don’t have to look any further than this season to see they’re great insurance for one another, and ~24 MPG, give or take depending on matchups, health, etc. seems like a good number for both of them.
Brunson…man, I’m starting to feel like as long as we have that guy, we have a chance, broadly defined. No offense to the hardcore Melo fans, but it’s not a feeling I’ve ever had about any other Knicks player.
How much of a difference does it make to have a center who can space the floor all the way out to like 7′ from the rim? Hart’s taken 27 shots all year from outside the 3 second area
i think i-hart provides a decent spacing advantage over mitch despite being a non-shooter, though not the same as a true 5-out lineup. most of this is just having the ball in his hands in the pivot some of the time as a legit passing threat; his front court touch time is 3-4X mitch’s who only stands outside the dunker’s spot to screen and dho. one of the most telling indicators comes from randle’s and brunson’s individual productivity disparities in the two years since we signed ihart:
brunson/ihart: 37.4 pts / 100, 54.5% 2pt fg%, 7.9 FT pts / 100
brunson/mitch: 34.5 pts / 100, 47.7% 2pt fg%, 5.5 FT pts / 100
randle/ihart: 37.0 pts / 100, 58.6% 2pt fg%, 8.9 FT pts / 100
randle/mitch: 31.8 pts / 100, 49.9% 2pt fg%, 5.9 FT pts / 100
Just watched, that game was entertaining as hell!
If Monica McNutt doesn’t get Wally’s job next year, something is seriously wrong. She’s got personality without being extra, she is prepared and knows her shit, is rooting for the Knicks but not in an obnoxious way. Move World to the post game show permanently! Loved the Kenny pairing too. Just a fun game to watch all around.
More playmaking is always a good thing but it’s not about whether or not the starters would benefit from his playmaking it’s that the bench would benefit way more. The bench is bereft of passing and tends to just take turns going one-on-one and is a disorganized mess. They desperately need more playmaking and IHart can bring that. He will still play some minutes with the starters and they will also benefit from his playmaking.
As for who is the better all-around player, I think you are both undervaluing what Mitch brings offensively and overvaluing what IHart brings. IHart can function as a playmaker out of the high post, which is something Mitch can’t do but Mitch is a better offensive rebounder and a better finisher around the rim. I would give the edge to IHart offensively but I don’t think it’s a huge edge and neither can really score outside of 10 feet anyway so it’s not like either one stretches the floor in any meaningful way.
As for defensively, I think the difference is also greater than you are saying. The numbers with Mitch vs IHart prior to the OG trade show the Knicks playing much better defensively with Mitch on the floor over IHart and the Knicks during the stretch between Mitch’s injury and OG’s arrival were pretty bad defensively. A lot of the season’s on/off and opp FG% numbers are skewed because IHart has gotten to play with OG and has logged almost a third of his minutes with him. Mitch has not had that privilege yet.
With all that said, I think they are both excellent players and fairly close in impact and should split time evenly. I am not actually that concerned with who is better, I personally think it is Mitch by a small margin but I totally understand why someone might think IHart is slightly better but that is not really my point. My point is once Randle is healthy IHart’s playmaking, while always helpful, will be more impactful with the bench so we should get him with the bench players as much as possible.
pt it should be pretty obvious to anyone who watches but I’m glad the stats bear it out. Mitch probably makes up some in offensive rebounding but he marginally clogs things up to the point where iHart has the edge. But I also think that in tight games you need as many options to score as possible and iHart’s ability to pass, drive, hit a floater, and knock down FTs gives him a clear edge.
A couple of threads ago, rama made a dismissive reference to my 80%/20% take on Mitch. I thought it was pretty clear that I was making the larger point that we could find an adequate replacement for Mitch at a lower cost, so If he left when he was a UFA it wouldn’t be as big of a deal as some were making it out to be. And like and behold, we found 90-110% of Mitch at a bit more than half the AAV.
I’m not a hater, just imo a bit more realistic than some here are about Mitch’s limitations and how they might hurt us against teams like MIA and BOS who can exploit them. It’s a good problem to have, especially at his price tag, but it’s a problem. I would prefer that one of them is swapped out for more of a stretch five who can defend, but those guys aren’t easy to find.
Yeah I’m not saying iHart doesn’t make the offense better, I just doubt whatever extent he does is caused by his occaional floaters, rather than things like movement, ball handling, maybe he’s a better screener, etc
pt, what are those numbers like for just last season?
I don’t think switching either of them out for a stretch 5 is a good idea. There is no stretch 5s that we can get that will bring half as much defensively as either of them and our offense when we have been healthy over the last two seasons has actually been better than our defense so I don’t think we should trade defense for offense at this point.
Plus I think the offensive rebounding that both of them bring more than makes up for any space that they fail to create by not stretching the floor. And their interchangeability is a real strength and helps us when injuries hit.
DRed, I don’t think last season‘s numbers matter much, because I think iHart has improved, I think we sometimes forget that he and Mitch are virtually the same age. Both still have a window for improvement, and I think Mitch has improved defensively, and as a rebounder every year. But his offensive game might have actually regressed while Hartenstein seems to be improving further.
There was a pretty good stretch five available last year.. He even said that he would be fine with coming back to the Knicks. A package of Mitch, Fournier, and pics could easily have gotten it done. But they KB hive would have had a nuclear meltdown.
McNutt’s observations are so good that sometimes I think she should be on the coaching bench instead of the broadcast booth.
I have always been a Mitch supporter when other in my Knicks circle were skeptical. However, the eye test and PT Milo test demonstrate that the team is better with I Hart as the leading C.
If we look at the best stretch 5s in the game most of them trade offensive rebounding for outside shooting. Per 36, Turner makes 1.8 3s and gets 4.5 less orebs, KP makes 2.4 3s gets 4.6 less orebs, Chet makes 2.0 3s and gets 4.7 less orebs. These are the very best stretch 5s and none of them are available and even they give a pretty hefty trade off of three point attempts to orebs.
Our offensive is partly built to take advantage of those rebs and was third last year and when healthy has been very good this year. We don’t need a to change what largely works.
I think all of the on/off and shooting numbers between Mitch and IHart are flawed this year because we have been so much better with OG and Mitch hasn’t gotten to play with him yet. Once we get some data with OG and Mitch we’ll have a much better picture.
here are the aforementioned pairing numbers excluding all OG minutes:
brunson/ihart: 36.3 pts / 100, 54.2% 2pt fg%, 8.0 FT pts / 100
brunson/mitch: 34.5 pts / 100, 47.7% 2pt fg%, 5.5 FT pts / 100
randle/ihart: 37.3 pts / 100, 58.2% 2pt fg%, 9.2 FT pts / 100
randle/mitch: 31.8 pts / 100, 49.9% 2pt fg%, 5.9 FT pts / 100
I’ve just left Burks island, so i’m definitely not leaving Mitch island. For me, he’s the starter. I can agree we have to be careful if he finishes games, because FT shooting matters and iHart is a lot better.
PT do you have the numbers for Brunson and Randle on the court at the same time, with Mitch or iHart? Because i think some of those numbers might be when iHart was a backup and Brunson or Randle were with him on the court without the other.
+1 on the Monica over Wally, she’s so much more enjoyable to listen to and already seems to have nice chemistry with Kenny. Please keep her.
PT do you have the numbers for Brunson and Randle on the court at the same time, with Mitch or iHart? Because i think some of those numbers might be when iHart was a backup and Brunson or Randle were with him on the court without the other.
yes i actually ran these when i ran the original because i was similarly curious about the confounder of randle/brunson affecting each other.
jalen/randle/ihart
jalen: 35.3 / 100, 53.6% 2pt%, 7.85 FT pts / 100
randle: 35.0 / 100, 59.38% 2pt%, 8.5 FT pts /100
jalen/randle/mitch
jalen: 33.3 pts / 100, 47.6% 2pt%, 5.4 FT pts / 100
randle: 31.0 pts / 100, 50.3% 2pt%, 5.4 FT pts / 100
Ben R that’s a fair point about OG, he makes a huge difference.
As to the stretch 5 points, seems like a false trade off. Offensive rebounding would seem to be far less reliable in the playoffs than a floor-spacing or playmaking Center. Better teams know how to box out. They also know how to mitigate rim runners.
Both Randle and Brunson, especially Randle very much struggled over the first 10 or so games this season and most of those minutes were with Mitch. I would be curious what last year looks like and what the overall offensive numbers looked like.
Maybe we are a bit better offensively with IHart we are at least as much better defensively when you exclude the OG minutes.
ok last one, last year only (22-23)
randle/mitch 33.2 pts/100, 50.9% 2p%, 5.4 ft pts/100
randle/ihart 37.8 pts/100, 59.2% 2p%, 9.4 ft pts /100
brunson/mitch 33.5 pts/100, 48.5% 2pt%, 5.4 ft pts/100
brunson/ihart 34.0 pts/100, 55.8% 2pt%, 8.9 ft pts/100
If Mitch gets back in time I think the only reason to start him or play him a good amount with the starters is just to see what it looks like before the playoffs
The numbers corroborate the eye test. When you put on top of that the fact that iHart was compromised the first third of last season, the difference when they are both healthy is hard to refute, and I think Thibs is smart enough to see the difference, although we’ll see.
I agree Monica is a lot better than Wally, but to be fair to Monica she’s good at it. Because being better than Wally is not a high bar. Sorry, Wally!
It hurts but I think IHart is better. He moves the ball and moves without the ball much better than Mitch. Who is still a beast and a major love of my life.
It’s not really a knock. I think IHart could be a top 12 center in the league when fully healthy.
Thanks. Offense seems better with iHart, i don’t know what is the difference on defense, Mitch looks better by the eye test. But let’s wait for Mitch to get back and see what Thibs does. He has more data to properly evaluate the two.
Zman is that the eye test that told you Mitch was like the 50th best center in the NBA?
Mitch’s offensive boards were an integral part of our offense when he was healthy, but I also think that makes him fit better with the 2nd unit.
In any case, Thibs can choose between the two depending on the matchup, and I would have have IHart against the best centers (to draw them out of the paint and for his one to one defense) and Mitch for the rest (for his help defense and offensive rebounding)
The best part is we don’t have to choose. We can keep both and have them split time and that way they both stay healthy and rested. I like IHart with the bench cause they need his passing more but honestly I don’t really care as long as both players are getting 20+ minutes a game.
I would do everything I can to keep IHart. He could get an offer bigger than the $16.2 million we can pay him but I doubt he will. I hope Leon doesn’t get too clever and lose him. I am trying to be optimistic.
DRed, I would put my history of Mitch takes up against anyone on this board, including at draft time.
Simple solution, just keep both of them.
fans love it, coaches love it, refs probably like it – the players, many maybe not so much…
Donovan Mitchell has a fractured nose
milo, you better hope mitch don’t ever find where you live – he’ll send the dogs and that old coach out to get you…
thank you tristan thompson’s roided up elbow…
Cade Cunningham just took an incredibly stupid shot that lead to a Heat buzzer beater.
It’s going to be tricky to pull it off, but yes, that’s the clear answer.
That Cade shot was Nate Robinson class stupid
milo, you better hope mitch don’t ever find where you live – he’ll send the dogs and that old coach out to get you…
been hyperfanning since the mid 1980s and mitch is in the pantheon of my favorite all time knicks. was hoping we would take deanthony melton with that pick until i saw mitch block a 3pa in summer league having started with a foot in the paint, and yam in a kevin knox weather balloon lob thrown two feet behind him. just a massively likable player who has come a long way refining his defensive fundamentals as his insane athleticism has ebbed.
jamal murray is a dawg…oops…
Kyrie with the crazy lefty hook shot for the win.
Preposterous shot by Kyrie
https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength Mavs have the easiest schedule left in the West, they could end up ahead of the Kings for 6th
Fournier with a plus-12 in 31 minutes in a close loss to the Heat, 4-8 from three, 18 pts, 4 rebounds (!), 3 steals (!).
Who knew.
I’ve been harping about the spacing issues between Randle and Mitch for as long as they’ve been playing together. Of course that extends to Brunson and it was even worse with RJ. That’s why I was so insistent on trading either one of Randle or RJ unless we traded Mitch and got someone like Myles Turner instead.
The moment we signed I-Hart it was pretty clear he was going to help with spacing. His 3 point shooting hasn’t lived up to what were probably unrealistic hopes, but the spacing is still better and his overall offensive skill set superior to Mitch’s even if not more than meh. The surprise to me was that he’s actually good defensively too.
I love Mitch, but he’s not an ideal fit with Randle and Brunson. He’s also going to be tough to keep on the court late in playoff games because he can’t hit a free throw.
Still, if we get him back this season and he’s in decent shape he’s going to impact games defensively and on the offensive boards. So the sooner he’s back the better.
Ultimately though, I think management understands that he’s not going to be the starter with Randle and Brunson, which is why I’ve been bringing him up as the trade chip that gets combined with Bojan for an upgrade at SG.
I think I-Hart is going to be the long term starter unless they find a way to upgrade him also.
There’s a lot of offensive rebound opportunities on the 2nd unit, Mitch could lead the league in oboards in 15mpg with those guys.
This is ideal. Between Mitch’s injury history and iHart’s Achilles issues which, remember, affected his play last year too, there’s good reason to believe neither can handle a starter’s minutes load.
All that said, Achiuwa looks like a really solid backup C and Mitch could fetch a nice piece in a trade. If we draft a 3rd string C with our 2nd round pick we’ll be set.
dang milo, so mitch is cooked…
PT’s numbers are pretty convincing about Haet’s offensive impact. But I still might prefer Mitch in certain matchups. Mitch is stronger than Ihart, and we might need this in certain matchups. For example, I’ve seen Mitch defend Embiid pretty well, and I’m not sure Ihart could handle him as well.
Man, IQ is kind of a mess…
I did one of the coolest gigs of my career today: I played synthesizer on the soundstage of Sony Pictures for the upcoming film Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F. There were ten of us in the “synth section” and we played along with the giant orchestral ensemble that does these big budget studio films.
I played a vintage Yamaha CS80 synth, which was Vangelis’ favorite keyboard and which goes for around $80K.
IQ let us down tonight
What happened to IQ?
what was Herbie Hancock playing on Rockit?
Herbie played the vanishingly rare Rhodes Chroma synth on “Rockit.”
The CS80 was the main synth used on the original Blade Runner soundtrack and it appeared on countless classic albums.
That sound so cool, JK! Did you play the Faltermeyer title track, or is it entirely new compositions for the new movie?
bet the set up was a bit more modern than this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0NVZl3ESZ4
JK- that is absolutely so cool! Beverly Hills cop is one of my favorite movies of the 80’s (im 48), and even my kids have heard Axel F. Can’t wait to see the new movie and hear your work. This blog is full of some cool dudes.
It was all new compositions although some of them did incorporate the iconic Axel F melody. I had never done one of those big orchestral soundstage sessions so it was a really cool experience.
very cool and a funny way to learn they’re making a new beverly hill cop
I assume Eddie Murphy is in this one too?
Vic gets 33-15-7 with 7 blocks. Frightening.
Meanwhile, I know he’s in purgatory, but Mikal is not living up to my expectations as the secret missing sauce.
And congrats, JK. That is sensationally cool.
Not only is Eddie Murphy in it, they even got Judge Reinhold out of mothballs
wow, that sounds like industrial sized music…were you all playing at like the same time…
how many total folks, and how big an area did it take to fit everyone?
something like that must be intense to coordinate and make happen…
were there 10 total folks playing synthesizers?
that sounds incredible…wall of sound…
There were ten of us in the synthesizer “section” but that was just a small part of the whole orchestra, which I’m sure was well over 100 people. We were seated directly in front of the French horn section, and there were like ten of them alone! There was a full string section, woodwinds, brass, percussion.
It was in a giant orchestra soundstage, the John Williams Music Building on the Sony lot in Culver City. Airplane hangar-sized room. The technical aspect of it alone was stunning. They had headphones for every member of the orchestra, so probably like 150 sets of headphones or more. Insane complicated microphone setup. Everybody is getting paid union scale and we went into overtime, so I can’t even imagine the expense that gets racked up doing a session like this. They rented probably like $300K worth of synthesizers. It was really an experience that I won’t forget.
that’s incredible…I’m sure the vibrations from all those instruments must have been something to feel…
I’m gonna have to google it – it’s really hard for me to even picture that much activity going on…
yep, that sounds like a pretty darn good day at work 😊
airplane hanger sized room…
do you get food/bio breaks?
did you know some of the other folks performing?
Love that story Jk!!!