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  • Knicks’ OG Anunoby glad he decided to undergo elbow surgery – New York Post
    [New York Post] – Thu, 14 Mar 2024 08:15:00 GMT
    1. Knicks’ OG Anunoby glad he decided to undergo elbow surgery
    2. OG Anunoby’s injury return marks beginning of Knicks redefining roles
    3. OG Anunoby lifts Knicks to blowout win over 76ers in return
    4. Knicks forward OG Anunoby will reportedly return vs. 76ers
    5. Knicks Bulletin: “I probably should have taken myself out of yesterday’s game.”


  • Report: “Some internal concern” about Julius Randle’s delayed return – Posting and Toasting
    [Posting and Toasting] – Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:00:00 GMT
    1. Report: “Some internal concern” about Julius Randle’s delayed return
    2. Knicks’ Tom Thibodeau Provides Julius Randle Update amid Shoulder Injury Rehab
    3. New York Knicks Star Reportedly Misses Out On $1.3 Million Bonus
    4. Insider Reveals Concerning Update on Knicks Star Julius Randle
    5. Knicks get another encouraging Julius Randle injury update


  • Photo Essay: Knicks City Dancers Enter a New Era – The Cut
    [The Cut] – Wed, 13 Mar 2024 12:00:22 GMT

    Photo Essay: Knicks City Dancers Enter a New Era


  • What questions do you have for Knicks vs. Blazers? – Blazer’s Edge
    [Blazer’s Edge] – Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:33:18 GMT
    1. What questions do you have for Knicks vs. Blazers?
    2. Knicks vs Trail Blazers Prediction NBA Picks 3/14/24
    3. New York Knicks vs Portland Trail Blazers Prediction, 3/14/2024 Preview and Pick
    4. New York Knicks vs. Portland Trail Blazers Prediction, Preview, and Odds – 3-14-2024
    5. Anfernee Simons, Top Trail Blazers Players to Watch vs. the Knicks – March 14


  • Josh Hart pulled one rebound shy of first career 20-20 game: ‘Thomas Thibodeau wanted to take me out of the game’ – New York Daily News
    [New York Daily News] – Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:30:47 GMT
    1. Josh Hart pulled one rebound shy of first career 20-20 game: ‘Thomas Thibodeau wanted to take me out of the game’
    2. Josh Hart on Tom Thibodeau’s coaching style
    3. Knicks’ Josh Hart is the hardest working man in the NBA
    4. Josh Hart feels ‘solid’ through recent Knicks ironman stretch
    5. ‘Appreciate It!’ Hart Benched A Rebound Short of Historic Box Score


  • NBA writer predicts potential Knicks trade target will stay with current team – Daily Knicks
    [Daily Knicks] – Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:00:01 GMT
    1. NBA writer predicts potential Knicks trade target will stay with current team
    2. Donovan Mitchell playing for Knicks wouldn’t surprise ex-teammate
    3. Ingles Still Holds Hope For ‘Special’ Mitchell Knicks Union
    4. Latest Donovan Mitchell Update Is Bad News for New York Knicks
    5. 3 Teams that could compete with Knicks in potential Donovan Mitchell trade


  • 5 Knicks at risk of being traded this summer – Daily Knicks
    [Daily Knicks] – Wed, 13 Mar 2024 12:00:17 GMT

    5 Knicks at risk of being traded this summer


  • Knicks vs. Blazers: Start time, where to watch, what’s the latest – Hoops Hype
    [Hoops Hype] – Thu, 14 Mar 2024 07:33:20 GMT

    Knicks vs. Blazers: Start time, where to watch, what’s the latest


  • New York Knicks Reportedly Make Roster Move – Fastbreak on FanNation – Sports Illustrated
    [Sports Illustrated] – Thu, 14 Mar 2024 06:46:12 GMT

    New York Knicks Reportedly Make Roster Move – Fastbreak on FanNation

  • 68 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.03.14)”

    I was watching an old documentary about Bukowski and somebody asked him how’s about feeling old and close to the end of life and he answered “It’s not about the years, it’s about still having all of your MOXIE”.

    I fell from the chair 😀

    Anyone here have any insight on this year’s quarterback draft? As a long-suffering Bears fan, I’d like to know what mistake they plan on making.

    Wow, Knicks 11 1/2 point favorites tonight in Portland.

    That seems a little steep, no?

    That seems a little steep, no?

    Not when both Bogey and Burks are healthy

    Boston was a 9.5 point favorite a couple days ago in Portland but a bunch of their guys were out

    Boston was a 9.5 point favorite a couple days ago in Portland but a bunch of their guys were out

    and they beat them by 22!

    As Macri reports, for Portland, Malcolm Brogdon and Shaedon Sharpe remain out, while Jerami Grant is day-to-day.

    We signed Mamadi Diakite to a 10-day. Mmkay.

    Luka with a hamstring injury. One of those “hate it for the sport, but benefits us” things, since I highly doubt they can tank their way into the top-10 again…though they may well view that as a challenge.

    One might reasonably view the reward of resting Brunson tonight as outweighing the risk of losing the game, but who am I kidding?

    Ty Halliburton seems to have lost his 3 point mojo which would be nice for us if it keeps going

    Diakite has played 84 percent of his NBA minutes at center. This makes me wonder about Mitch all over again, based on the timing.

    Diakite has played 84 percent of his NBA minutes at center. This makes me wonder about Mitch all over again, based on the timing.

    Thibs just wants another C to play over Bojan

    It could be planning ahead to lose iHart… Taking a look at some third string options (since Sims isn’t exactly showing out). Hate to think about not having Isaiah next year, but it’s hard to believe he’ll be back.

    Thibs is a center whisperer. Whoever we be a beast on defense and the boards.

    If we can’t bring back iHart or have to trade Mitch to bring him back we should probably just draft a center

    Weak bones in the lower extremities is not a good thing for a big man’s longevity… That’s why I was with Z-man in being patient about extending Mitch in the first place. Even then it seemed possible his career might be cut short by recurring injuries. Unlike Z-man, I thought the idea of “80% of Mitch at 20% the price” was absurd, but the idea that he might not play more than half a season in any season going forward is not. So were he to be a big piece in a trade (with iHart being retained), I’d be sad but not against it in principle.

    Which means we may be looking for a backup… especially since iHart’s Achilles seems to be an issue as well. Precious has been pretty good, but we might be thinking of what DRed suggests – someone at a near-minimum salary, drafted or not. In terms of value at that position, not a crazy idea.

    I fell from the chair 😀

    LOL

    it’s about still having all of your MOXIE

    Only bright minds are worried about moxie… Bukowski and E! 😀

    Is the movie Knox Goes Away about the Knicks trading Knox to Atlanta? 😀

    New York

    Julius Randle Expected to be out until at least Mar 21

    Mitchell Robinson Expected to be out until at least Mar 23

    Mitch may be closer than we thought.

    Drafting a big would make sense and there’s some decent ones in the draft, but I can’t help but think we didn’t purposefully hang on to all our first round picks in order
    to use them.

    Oh, silly Hubie. Do we *ever* actually have a tendency to use our draft picks?

    Having said that, I hope that you’re correct and I’m incorrect about that.

    It could be planning ahead to lose iHart… Taking a look at some third string options (since Sims isn’t exactly showing out). Hate to think about not having Isaiah next year, but it’s hard to believe he’ll be back.

    Or maybe…. just maybe Thibs and Rose are looking at the upcoming schedule and after GSW next Monday (which is possibly winnable) they have Denver Thursday (100% loss) and might need extra bodies if they decide to rest Brunson, J Hart, DDV, I Hart and OG and give them a 5 day blow before returning home vs the Nyets…. Hey…. anything’s possible.

    Macri’s newsletter today is pretty interesting. He examines the history of the phenomenon wherein team’s offense falls of a cliff when a heliocentric player sits, in light of our…considerable struggles sans Brunson.

    The conclusion is it happens to basically every team with one player who stands out from the rest–even this year’s Nuggets have what would be an almost league-worst offense with Jokic on the bench. Randle and OG may be able to mitigate this somewhat, but the best approach may well be to just accept it and just absolutely hammer defense in the non-Brunson minutes.

    Relatedly, re: the draft, it’s well-known to be weak at the top but if we do wind up making two picks (doubtful) it seems deep enough to come away with two quality players.

    Fit wise, a guard and a big would make a lot of sense. Collier, McCain, Simpson, and Kolek all strike me as varying degrees of realistic and sensible. As far as bigs go…I mean, Zach Edey would be an immediate fan favorite right?

    This is a consensus of who I’ve seen mocked to us in various places:
    17 Kyle Filipowski 7-0 250 C Duke
    22 Ronald Holland 6-8 205 SF G-League
    39 Pacome Dadiet 6-8 210 PF France
    45 Zach Edey 7-4 300 C Purdue

    I suspect we’re going to keep at least one of these four picks, if not two, just so we can get some new cost-controlled players into the pipeline. Depending on what the FO thinks about Rokas, the ideal kind of player to get would be a point guard who can actually play point guard — even more ideally, someone tall enough to play next to Deuce, so they can trade off defensive responsibilities in the second unit.

    I definitely wouldn’t read much into the Diakite thing. iHart is hobbled and Diakite is a tall guy who was playing well in the G-League, my guess is that’s about it.

    It’s exactly the kind of thing we should’ve done instead of giving Taj Gibson crucial rotation minutes in 2024.

    I expect us to make 2-3 picks, I don’t expect us to keep them beyond our 2031 draft pick becoming tradable

    It’s exactly the kind of thing we should’ve done instead of giving Taj Gibson crucial rotation minutes in 2024.

    People keep complaining that we have useless G-leaguers at the end of the rotation instead of washed vets, but when the Knicks did that it was also wrong?

    People keep complaining that we have useless G-leaguers at the end of the rotation instead of washed vets, but when the Knicks did that it was also wrong?

    A warm body actively playing basketball in the G-League is a clear upgrade over Taj, yes.

    Did some speculative cap math, if we let Hartenstein walk we can stay under the 2nd apron, based on the (unlikely) assumption we keep all our picks, max OG, and sign Precious for $8M.

    We’d still have ~$4M before we hit the 2nd apron. Of course these numbers are based on the current cap projection, which is conservative. If it’s a bit higher, we may be able to keep Hartenstein instead of Achiuwa and still dodge the 2nd apron.

    I also noticed that OG will play his 10th season next year, the offseason after that he would qualify for the 10yr vet max instead of a 7-9yr max. He could potentially sign for a 1-and-1 instead of a 5-yeat max this offseason to get a big salary boost the next year… maybe he’d even take a small cut this year?

    Their cap situation is going to be fascinating, and I think it’s too early to even really guess what they’re going to do, especially because Leon clearly wants to use those picks in a deal, ya know? I’d love to know what the logistics are about going over the second cap after the big trade. Would they have to renounce guys to do the trade?

    Mamadi has an 11.5 BPM this season, another Leon Masterclass

    bkref has him with a 120% free throw rate, which seems miraculous, and I just realized that FTr does not mean what I though it meant.

    Action Bronson sits down with the boys today.

    I legitimately though it was going to be Alec Burks and was disappointed to find some big white wrestler dude.

    if we let Hartenstein walk we can stay under the 2nd apron,

    If it gets to this point, you just waive Bojan, right? You can’t let iHart walk to hold onto a salary.

    I legitimately though it was going to be Alec Burks and was disappointed to find some big white wrestler dude.

    Don’t you mean Queens’ own esteemed chef and accomplished rapper?

    Big game tonight- Monica on the call with Breen. Let’s hope the chemistry is great and she passes Wally on the broadcast depth chart.

    If OG opts out, we will be about $47 million below the tax and about $55 million below the first apron. If we can retain IHart for around $10-15 million, and then resign OG for $30-35 million that would leave us right at or a bit below the tax line. Our two 1sts will cost between $5-8 million depending where they fall and Rokas if we want to bring him over will be probably $2-4 million. If we are clever we should be able to resign IHart and OG and our two 1sts and bring over Rokas and still be below the apron or even below the tax if we get very good deals on OG and IHart.

    If it gets to this point, you just waive Bojan, right? You can’t let iHart walk to hold onto a salary.

    Yeah, rama just mentioned the possibility of iHart walking above and it inspired me to run the numbers. I don’t expect things to happen that way.

    Bojan’s waiver deadline is prior to FA starting, so it’s at least possible we keep him and it screws us on iHart later. Or maybe iHart just walks.

    Apparently RJ isn’t sick he’s missing games because his younger brother passed away.

    If OG opts out, we will be about $47 million below the tax and about $55 million below the first apron. If we can retain IHart for around $10-15 million,

    The numbers are up in the air right now, but these seem low to me. I’d be surprised if OG gets less than $35M, I view that as closer to his floor for next year. Meanwhile iHart is making $9M this year and I think deserves a bigger raise than $1M, something in the Mitch ballpark averaging ~$15M. If it’s ascending, that’d start around $13M. But I could be way off…

    The conclusion is it happens to basically every team with one player who stands out from the rest–even this year’s Nuggets have what would be an almost league-worst offense with Jokic on the bench.

    I think the issue Macri is really looking for is a team missing its key playmaker and it doesn’t have a backup that can take over.

    Most teams have a backup PG, but my own studies (during my more serious basketball gambling days) indicated that when the gap between the starting PG and backup PG is huge and the starter is hurt, the drop off on offense is greater than the stats would lead you to believe, at least for a few games until the team reorients.

    An ever risker position to be in is to have a forward or center be the key playmaker driving your offense. Guys like that are so rare there is almost never a high level backup that can handle it from the same F or C position. So what they have to do is switch their offense even more by putting a more traditional PG in charge of the playmaking. That can screw things up for awhile.

    There are exceptions to this.

    For example, guys like Kobe and Peirce demonstrated they were so skilled, they could take over playmaking responsibilities if the PG was hurt without skipping much of a beat. But generally, if your major playmaker is out you’ll have some significant issues for awhile unless you have a damn good playmaking backup.

    And obviously, if that guy is also a key scorer on top of running the offense you are going to have even bigger issues.

    Idk… I think we’d be lucky to get iHart at AAV 15mil. But also, what does that say if you pay him more than Mitch? It probably means Mitch gets traded. It’s a tricky conundrum.

    Rama, by your standards, Kevin Durant was a crazy injury risk after he had more than one incidence of foot problems and eventually needed surgery.

    You are right about OG I thought he was 6 years in not 7. He is more likely $35-40 million and then the max we can give IHart is $16.2 million but I think he is more likely in the $12-14 million range to start with $10 being the floor.

    I still think right around the tax line is probably what we should be looking at once we resign both. That still leaves enough room for two rookies and Rokas if our goal is staying below the first apron. It’ll be tight but I think it is totally possible, especially if we release Sims giving us an extra $2 million to play with.

    KFniNJ, he was/is. And he has missed lots of time. But like Kawhi, when he’s healthy, he single handedly transforms a team. So he’s worth it.

    But so was Walton, and he barely played in his later seasons. Sampson, Oden, Yao, there are lots of examples of guys who had short careers because of lower leg injuries. It doesn’t always mean a short career, but I’m players who are prone to them, it ain’t a good sign.

    I mean, Kareem, KG, Shaq, plenty of great tall players who never dealt with that. But ones who do… They’re a risk.

    That’s terrible news shit RJ’s brother. No parent should have to endure that.

    Apparently RJ isn’t sick he’s missing games because his younger brother passed away.

    Geez, that’s terrible

    Yeah just read about RJ’s younger brother, horrible news. I have a younger brother and even though we’re pretty old adults by now I still can’t fathom having him pass away.

    That is terrible about RJ’s brother. I like RJ, he seems like a good guy. I hope him and his family the best through all of this.

    What a tragedy! At all ages it’s hard, but at RJ’s age i can’t even imagine how you process the loss of a younger brother. 😢

    Yes, let’s lay off of RJ for a while. Glad it’s something we can come together on.

    And OG is back!!! Pay him whatever he wants (within reason)!!! If Hart isn’t a uniquely skilled player, then OG almost certainly is in the way that he transforms our team with his presence on the court. We’re very fortunate to have both of them on our squad.

    Condolences to RJ and the Barrett family.

    I would be surprised if OG signed for less than $40 million. I’m pretty sure teams like Philly and OKC will offer at least that much, if not more, considering the new cap. I hope the Knicks at least have an idea what it is going to take to sign him. The one thing that can happen is for OG to walk for nothing.

    OG is re-signing. Probably about $35 mil AAV so we have flexibility. I would bet on it.

    I think you mean “can’t happen,” gkhenman. I’m not correcting; I’m merely checking for clarification.

    And it still happens that every time I see your moniker I can’t help but think of Henny Youngman.

    You are correct Doogie, I meant can’t. Feel free to correct me anytime. Oddly enough, kids used to call me Henny Youngman in elementary school. I remember him for having some pretty funny one liners on a service called “dial-a-joke”. That’s how old I am.

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