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  • NBA playoff results: Knicks stage ’90s party at MSG; injuries take center stage; Hawks, Nuggets roll – The Athletic
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  • Eastern Conference Recaps, April 21: Jalen Brunson Led New York Knicks Past Cleveland Cavaliers – Sports Illustrated
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  • Knicks’ RJ Barrett breaks shooting slump in 19-point Game 3 – New York Post
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    Knicks’ RJ Barrett breaks shooting slump in 19-point Game 3  New York Post

  • Immanuel Quickley celebrates and other pictures from the night in … – Hoops Hype
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  • Knicks’ Early 2023 Free-Agent Targets – Bleacher Report
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  • Knicks-Cavaliers Game 3 live updates: Knicks cruising in fourth quarter – New York Post
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    Knicks-Cavaliers Game 3 live updates: Knicks cruising in fourth quarter  New York Post

  • Knicks get extra boost from electric Garden crowd: ‘Shaking in there’ – New York Post
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    Knicks get extra boost from electric Garden crowd: ‘Shaking in there’  New York Post

  • NBA playoffs: Knicks hold strong in Game 3 as young Cavs get rattled in the Garden – Yahoo New Zealand News
    [news.google.com] — Saturday, April 22, 2023 2:08:00 AM

    NBA playoffs: Knicks hold strong in Game 3 as young Cavs get rattled in the Garden  Yahoo New Zealand News

  • Derrick Rose’s Cameo Punctuates Knicks Game 3 Win – Heavy.com
    [news.google.com] — Saturday, April 22, 2023 1:43:48 AM

    Derrick Rose’s Cameo Punctuates Knicks Game 3 Win  Heavy.com

  • 2023 NBA playoffs: Scores, results, series schedules, times with Knicks taking 2-1 series edge on Cavaliers – CBS Sports
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    2023 NBA playoffs: Scores, results, series schedules, times with Knicks taking 2-1 series edge on Cavaliers  CBS Sports

  • Cleveland Cavs blown out by New York Knicks in Game 3, 99-79 – Akron Beacon Journal
    [news.google.com] — Saturday, April 22, 2023 1:15:00 AM

    Cleveland Cavs blown out by New York Knicks in Game 3, 99-79  Akron Beacon Journal

  • Cavaliers 79-99 Knicks (Apr 21, 2023) Game Recap – ESPN
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    Cavaliers 79-99 Knicks (Apr 21, 2023) Game Recap  ESPN

  • Knicks vs. Cavaliers score, takeaways: New York rolls to 99-79 victory over Cleveland to take 2-1 series lead – CBS Sports
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    Knicks vs. Cavaliers score, takeaways: New York rolls to 99-79 victory over Cleveland to take 2-1 series lead  CBS Sports

  • Knicks 99, Cavaliers 79: “YES BABY YES” – Posting and Toasting
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    Knicks 99, Cavaliers 79: “YES BABY YES”  Posting and Toasting

  • Jalen Brunson, Barrett ‘Bounce Back’ Energize Knicks Fans in Win vs. Mitchell, Cavs – Bleacher Report
    [news.google.com] — Friday, April 21, 2023 11:30:09 PM

    Jalen Brunson, Barrett ‘Bounce Back’ Energize Knicks Fans in Win vs. Mitchell, Cavs  Bleacher Report

  • Knicks romp past Cavaliers 99-79, take 2-1 series lead – The Associated Press
    [news.google.com] — Friday, April 21, 2023 11:14:26 PM

    Knicks romp past Cavaliers 99-79, take 2-1 series lead  The Associated Press

  • Knicks hold down Cavaliers in Game 3 rout – Reuters
    [news.google.com] — Friday, April 21, 2023 11:11:00 PM

    Knicks hold down Cavaliers in Game 3 rout  Reuters

  • What a Relief! Knicks’ Bench Joins Resurgent Barrett to Crush Cavs in Game 3 – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Friday, April 21, 2023 11:09:51 PM

    What a Relief! Knicks’ Bench Joins Resurgent Barrett to Crush Cavs in Game 3  Sports Illustrated

  • Knicks’ defense muscles up on Cavs in Game 3 romp at MSG – ESPN
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    Knicks’ defense muscles up on Cavs in Game 3 romp at MSG  ESPN

  • Knicks ride lockdown defense in Game 3 rout of Cavaliers to retake series lead – New York Post
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    Knicks ride lockdown defense in Game 3 rout of Cavaliers to retake series lead  New York Post

  • Cavaliers Go Cold From The Floor As Knicks Dominate Game 3, 99-79 – Sports Illustrated
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    Cavaliers Go Cold From The Floor As Knicks Dominate Game 3, 99-79  Sports Illustrated

  • Cleveland Cavaliers-New York Knicks Game 3 gamethread – Fear the Sword
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  • Cleveland Cavs vs. New York Knicks live game score and updates – Canton Repository
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    Cleveland Cavs vs. New York Knicks live game score and updates  Canton Repository

  • NBA Player Who Voted Knicks as Worst Fans: ‘Maybe the People Are Too Rich That Go’ – Bleacher Report
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  • Knicks Villain Reggie Miller Surprisingly Welcomed in NY – Heavy.com
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    Knicks Villain Reggie Miller Surprisingly Welcomed in NY  Heavy.com

  • Knicks vs Cavaliers NBA Odds, Picks and Predictions – NBA Playoffs Game 3 – Covers
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  • How to watch New York Knicks vs. Cleveland Cavaliers: Live stream, TV channel, start time for Friday’s NBA game – CBS Sports
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  • Cavaliers vs Knicks Odds, Prediction | NBA Playoffs Betting Picks – The Action Network
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    Cavaliers vs Knicks Odds, Prediction | NBA Playoffs Betting Picks  The Action Network

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  • Knicks’ Immanuel Quickley using Sixth Man snub as career fuel – New York Post
    [news.google.com] — Friday, April 21, 2023 2:44:00 PM

    Knicks’ Immanuel Quickley using Sixth Man snub as career fuel  New York Post

  • What Will The Atmosphere Be Like Friday At MSG For The Knicks? – WTMM 104.5 The Team – ESPN Radio
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  • Cleveland Cavaliers at New York Knicks odds, picks and predictions – USA TODAY Sportsbook Wire
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  • Chuck, Shaq, and J.B. Bickerstaff sound off on MSG and the Knicks crowd – Posting and Toasting
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    Chuck, Shaq, and J.B. Bickerstaff sound off on MSG and the Knicks crowd  Posting and Toasting

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  • 82 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2023.04.22)”

    The doomed New York Knicks defended their home court and took a 2-1 lead.

    If you take a step back and watch the last two games from a distance, you can probably agree that we’ve lost our 80’s and 90’s habits and we’re not accustomed anymore to the ups and downs of close playoffs series, where every game is different and everything can happen.
    This time the key was a great defense (the Cavs’ 79 points are their lowest outcome of the season) paired with a well distributed offense after an awful start.

    THOUGHTS:

    – If you did hear the pundits after Game-2 this series was running at full speed to a gentleman’s sweep for the Cavs. Now we’re up 2-1 and it doesn’t mean anything, it’s the playoffs, where after a win it’s always “next game!” (until the couch or the Trophy)…
    The Cavs will come out as in Game-2 e we need to be ready this time… Keep the pedal to the metal.
    And anyway we’re DOOMED šŸ˜‰

    – Knicks’ defense tonight really really good.
    Opposing teams can have a hot shooting night, but if you keep this kind of defensive intensity good things tend to happen.

    – The Cavs didn’t play well, but did we play well in Game-2? They can’t score but their defense is very good. They did look a bit “scared” by the atmosphere and the weight of the game now the shock is over, so they’ll be more dangerous next game.

    – 3 games and there isn’t a player on both teams that had 3 “very good” games in the series. Some of them are 0-3. It’s time for Randle to have one.

    – I’m worried for Grimes’ shoulder. He’s not playing well but I want to keep our depth intact. You can never know who will be hot in a playoffs game, more candidates, more chances.

    – Both teams shot blanks at the line (NY 61.1% CLE 58.8%).
    It was a blowout so this time it didn’t matter but remember, we won Game-1, the only close game so far, because we hit FTs at an higher than usual 86.4% and they didn’t. It can happen again.

    1Ā° QRT
    In a loud Garden a brutal offensive display for both teams, with a lot of energy and physicality but even more confusion.
    RJ showed encouraging signs (10 points, 2-3 2FG, 2-3 3FG), Julius didn’t (2 points, 0-2 2FG, 0-3 3FG, 1 TO). Score tied 17-17.

    2Ā° QRT
    Offenses sputtered until midway through the quarter, when Brunson lead the Knicks on a 13-3 run in 3:20 that expanded the lead to 11. The Cavs’ reaction wasn’t strong, they closed the gap to 8, but in the last 30 seconds IQ first hit a three and then assisted RJ for a dunk to expand the Knicks’ lead to 13 at the break (45-32).

    3Ā° QRT
    LeVert (11 pts) and Mitchell (8 pts) tried to mend the tear, but the Cavs never got closer than 9.
    Randle had 5 points in less than a minute (his only offensive outburst of the night), Brunson and RJ were steady (8 and 5 respectively) and the Knicks scored the last 8 points (kickstarted by a J-Hart bomb) and closed with a 17 points lead (72-55).

    4Ā° QRT
    Everyone expected a Cavs comeback, or at least a last charge, but it never came and they never threatened. New York managed the situation well and showed glimpses of good basketball while the crowd went crazy and the lead ballooned to 27. Thibs surprised the world and send in D-Rose and Jeffries for the last 4 minutes, another evidence that the game was over. Final score 99-79.

    STATS OF THE GAME:

    Turnovers – NY 14 CLE 21
    Steals – NY 14 CLE 7

    But

    Points Off Turnovers – CLE 28 NY 8. What??!!??

    They scored every time we did lose the ball and we didn’t?

    Numbers are funny sometimes šŸ™‚
    Anyway great defense.

    PLAYS OF THE GAME:

    2nd 3:43 Jalen Brunson makes dunk (CLE 27 NY 38)

    Gave the Knicks the first double digit lead and probably broke the Cavs’ spirit (useless information: Brunson had 2 dunks in the regular season).

    3rd 2:03 Josh Hart makes 25-foot three point jumper (RJ Barrett assists CLE 55 NY 67)

    The Cavs had cut the deficit to 9, J-Hart’s three stemmed their effort and sparked the 8-0 run that basically closed the game.

    GRADES:

    Brunson A
    Numbers don’t look great (21 points, only 1 FTs, 6:3 AST/TO, 2 STLs) but his best shooting night so far (he’s 2-16 from 3 in the series after tonight 0-4) and the points came when needed, first to expand the lead and then to quell the Cavs’ ambitions. I appreciated that he didn’t force things and did focus on involving the teammates.
    And his footwork, oh his footwork…

    Randle C
    The worst shooting night of his already bad series (3-15 for the game, 18-55 so far), But he was engaged on defense and we don’t really know how much his ankle’s bothering him, so he get a parzial pass.
    The lenght of the Cavs’ defense give him issues, but we need All-Star Randle as soon as we can.

    Barrett A
    Game MVP, or at least highest “above expectations” (Brian’s the real MVP).
    Solid all around game (19-8-3) with efficient shooting (5-6 2FG, 3-6 3FG) and a controlled composure. He was burned a couple of times on defense during LeVert’s little explosion but was competent for most of the plays.
    If there was a way to guarantee this level of performance I would be satisfied, but after 4 years we know him too well…
    I predicted 2 good games for him in the series, he gave me the first, I’m waiting the other.

    Grimes C-
    He was having a terrible offensive series and tonight he bricked almost everything, but I hope his injury isn’t too seious. We need his defense against the Cavs’ backcourt.

    Robinson B+
    He can basically only dunk, he’s a target because people know he’s a 48% FT shooter, but he set the tone on defense with his blocks and quick hands and his 5 OReb were huge.
    There will be time to talk about his glaring (lack of) offensive prowess, right now let’s say that he and I-Hart are keeping tight against the fabled Cavs’ Twin Towers.

    Hart A-
    Does your ankle feel better Josh? He rebounded after a game he shouldn’t have played and yestarday he was again the ultimate glue guy (13-6-1, 2-3 2FG, 2-2 3FG, 2 STL). Sometimes playing at fast forward is risky (4 TOs) but he does so many things you forgive him…

    Quickley B+
    I really hope that the inbound-step on the line turnover was the nadir of his well below-average series.
    Yesterday it worked as a wake up call and after that he did play better. Still a little more hesitant than usual on offense, his defense was very important, and would be so for the rest of the series especially after Grimes’ injury.

    Hartenstein B+
    The clumsy part of two different pairs (The Odd Couple with Mitch and the Hart Foundation) had another nice game sprinkled with some very good defensive plays and a couple of thundering dunks.

    Toppin B+
    Sit down please.
    Okay, now I can write it: Obi Toppin had 4 steals in a playoffs game. If you haven’t passed out, he had 3 rebounds too. And a block. An assist. A meaningful three pointer. Two highlights-reel dunks (one of them an “and-1”).
    He’s yield so far has been a pleasant surprise.

    McBride, Rose, Jeffries NA
    Only Rose took shots (respect!) but it’s nice to see you guys, please say hi to Evan, thanks

    Thibs A
    Playoffs win, overcoming Randle’s night and Glue’s injury.
    This time we were prepared, not sharp at the start but prepared for the fight. Keep it up.

    This time the key was a great defense (the Cavsā€™ 79 points are their lowest outcome of the season)

    Not just the Cav’s lowest points this season, but ANY team this season

    the Cavsā€™ 79 points are their lowest outcome of the season

    Their lowest point total of the regular season was 81 points in the infamous Knicks/Cavs game that turned our season around and sustains our momentary delusions that we might not be doomed.

    McBride, Rose, Jeffries NA
    Only Rose took shots (respect!) but itā€™s nice to see you guys, please say hi to Evan, thanks

    DaQuan Jeffries has now played infinitely times as many minutes in the playoffs as he did during the regular season. He’s committed infinitely times as many fouls & played in infinitely times as many games.

    The rest of his stats remain the same as the regular season.

    Not just the Cavā€™s lowest points this season, but ANY team this season

    My bad.
    I heard something about it but I didn’t have time to check so I went with what I was sure šŸ˜‰

    Being efficient during the Playoffs is a sign of quality and greatness that many RegSeasHeros lack.
    I’m ok with Knicks horrible bball so far as long as they’re imposing their will and win their worse than them opponents.
    If we could come away victorious with a soccer score by having 1/20 fts 0/60fgs against Cavs 0/20fts 0/60 fgs id be delirious…but Excited!
    šŸ™‚

    Not to be negative, but last night was an anomaly. Our defense was great as usual, but the anomaly was Cleveland missing good looks all game. It doesn’t take away from the defensive effort, but I just know guys like Garland aren’t gonna go anywhere near 4-21 again. Or Mitchell isn’t gonna have 6 Randle-esque turnovers. Regardless- holy shit did our guys put on a defensive clinic! We had a couple of plays where guys didn’t closeout like they should, or where had a brain fart and let the Cavs get to where they want. Just a couple. But overall, I thought the defensive rotations, the hedging to make the Cavs think twice, rim protection, and active hands were damn near perfect. I’m proud of that.

    You know what else I’m proud of? The fact that we have a star that knows how to play the game at PG. His shot making isn’t what made me feel like that during the game. Nah. Brunson showed me that he will do what it takes and that his hoops IQ is sky high. He made it a point to try to get Grimes activated early last night, and I really appreciate that. I’m sure Grimes does too- he just needs to calm himself and make his shots. BTW..Godspeed Q Dot.

    I’m also proud of the way Randle and RJ played. Knowing his shot wasn’t falling, Randle did the little things to keep the team in a groove. Mostly. There was a couple of times that if he had hit the floor for a loose ball, he would have came up with it. And RJ was incredibly efficient, and the Cavs had no answer for that.

    This series has been everything I thought it would be so far. I didn’t really expect 2 blowouts, but the first 3 games did not disappoint. Can’t wait for game 4

    I watched the game on replay when I got home from a Dad band gig, and man, was that some ugly hooping. But we were a lot less ugly than they were and Iā€™ll take it.

    The Cavs, in particular Garland, really seemed kind of rattled by the moment, but that will not be the case tomorrow. The Knicks will have to play a lot better to go up 3-1 (are you listening Julius?)

    It was a great win. I don’t really value that much being a blowout, it’s just one game. And i had the same reaction after game 2. Now my focus is on game 4, they’ll certainly come energized to try to not get into a hole, and after the experience in game 2 we must handle things a lot better this time. And we’ll be at MSG with the help of the crowd. History says it’ll probably be a 2-2 tie when it’s a series as leveled as ours, but i’m hopeful we’ll play like we usually do and that will give us a good chance to prevail in the end. Being ahead 3-1 is a big deal, it’d be amazing if we can do it.

    Also- let me be fair and honest.

    The Cavs play GREAT defense fueled by Mobley’s instincts and ability to cover ground. Even with 2 small guards not known for playing defense, Bickerstaff has crafted a really good scheme around his talent. When they got stops last night, I couldn’t do anything but respect it. Makes me want a longer PF that can move next to Mitch lol. No disrespect to Randle- I still think his game is perfect for this team and the city, kinda like Mason with a better jumper and less defense. But I just love how Mobley plays the game next to Allen. He’s the defensive hub like KG was in Minny. It’s beautiful to watch.

    the mvp was garland… the cavs had the advantage in this series but even something like a 5pt rating advantage can get wiped away if you’re taking stupid shots and forcing the issue… he had some great looks that he missed and then it got to his head…

    it’s a similar story to game 1 though… i don’t know how long this can last.. but ISM played well and that’s all it takes to win a series is for teams to go ice cold at the wrong time… there’s been some curious choices from bickerstaff that have been helping us also..

    it’s going to be difficult to imagine a series where we win and randle never really playing all that well…. but it’s very easy if they don’t ever score 80 pts… there was a point where the cavs D was giving him the exact looks the atlanta D gave and he didn’t really respond all that well and i imagine that’s going to be problematic before the series is over….

    but the crowd came to play last night…. def less vitriolic than the atlanta series although for whatever there was a bunch of f trae young chants because why not…. but that was one of the greatest nights at msg that i can remember…

    Not to be negative, but last night was an anomaly

    Perhaps, but it proved game 2 an anomaly, as well. That’s enough for me.

    Itā€™ s still anyoneā€™s series but a bounce back win after a blowout loss is a good step, one that I frankly thought they might not make. Which, without this step, would put the off season moves into ā€œdo we have the mental toughnessā€ rather than ā€œadding to a solid coreā€ territory. So if it is only 2 wins (in a series we are doomed to lose) I will happily but reluctantly take it.

    Perhaps, but it proved game 2 an anomaly, as well. Thatā€™s enough for me.

    Exactly!

    These Knicks are like a box of chocolates.

    So was the 99 team, and this is the most fun I’ve had since then.

    Is Brunson a top 15 player in the league? Heā€™s certainly the most unlikely star Iā€™ve ever seen. Not supposed to do it at this level and yet he does over and over. What a unique player.

    Non fit aside, I can pretty easily see 15 players better than JB. But, darules, canā€™t easily see a trade for a top 15 which includes him that makes sense. So half agree!

    Knicks depth proving valuable. Julius has shot terribly and we’re up 2-1. RJ comes up big last night. (What if we could have that on a nightly basis?) If someone goes down others can step in. CLE has a problem on offense with two guys who need to be really close to the basket. Can Mitchell / Garland carry them? Seems like Brunson’s not gonna let us choke under pressure.

    If we get to round two should the whole team get their job back?

    Watching the rewind now – just the second half, which is the right half to watch. We just crushed them at the start of the fourth, great defense, big shots, Brunson unstoppable, fast break opportunists…a lot of different looks. It was not a fluke, and not just because Garland was ass (though he was). Hart is very solid on Mitchell, our own Mitchell was dominant inside, when they don’t double-team Brunson he’s vicious inside. Not that they can’t make adjustments, but we were in total control without Julius playing much better than Garland.

    Randle has shot terribly on high usage and we are still 2-1. Two main reasons:
    -We have Brunson/IQ, Hart, Mitch and Hartenstein instead of DRose/Elfrid, Bullock, Nerlens and Taj.
    -CLE does not have Trae Young.

    Speaking of which, the Hawks did a number on the Celts last night. I hope they can make that a series and at least wear them down a bit, especially if Embiid is going to be compromised…

    I’ll be at game 4 tomorrow, not sure the matinee crowd can be as vocal as Friday Night Knicks at MSG, but I’ll do my part. Obviously this is a must-win for CLE, just like game 2, but it is pretty close to a must-win for us as well, so we have to match that level of desperation, like we didn’t in game 2. I’m expecting another ’90s type of game.

    Who cares about anomalies? Itā€™s the playoffs. The goal is to win games, win the series and move on to the next round.

    The Cavsā€™ lack of a bench really hurt them again in this one. Their fans wanted to see more Danny Green, and he gave them 12 minutes of nothing yesterday. Their best bench piece is whichever of Okoro or Levert isnā€™t starting. Osman has been ā€œmehā€ this series.

    Meanwhile our bench got outstanding play from Josh Hart, who appears to be back at full strength, and solid play (finally) from Quickley, as well as quality minutes from Hartenstein.

    When you have eight or nine good players and they have five or six, that matters.

    Such a strange game… To win by 20 (27 really, we stopped at that point and let DRose heave random shots at the basket) with one of our two leaders doped up with ketamine just seems unlikely in the extreme. Maybe scratch out a 2-4 point win, but in the 20s?

    I think the game ball goes to (Brian) the Cleveland collapse. All the good stuff that happened — forcing turnovers, RJ playing decently, Brunson turning it on, an excellent D. That’s maybe how you get a close win, especially with your leading scorer out (of it).

    But damn, I’ll take it.

    “Meanwhile our bench got outstanding play from Josh Hart, who appears to be back at full strength, and solid play (finally) from Quickley, as well as quality minutes from Hartenstein.”

    Don’t forget Obi, who has quietly been key for us, posting the highest BPM on the team in his 45 minutes.

    Also, to me, Josh Hart and Caris LeVert are nominal starters. So the real “bench” comparisons are IQ/iHart/Grimes/Obi vs. Okoro/Osman/Green/whoever. That’s not a fair fight. I’m a bit surprised that Bickerstaff isn’t sticking with Dean Wade…the dude started a bunch for them…

    The other thing is that between Mitch, Brunson, Barrett, iHart, JHart, and IQ, those guys shot 63% from the field (every one over 50%). Six of your seven highest minute players. Even Obi played well although he shot 3-8.

    Yeah I think thibs should give OBI a few more minutes. He seems to give the Cavs problems

    On that note, as disappointed as we might be with drafting Obi at #8, was Okoro any better at #5? Certainly not in this series thus far…although his knee might still be barking.

    Knox did, and put up 12pts & 12rebs on 16 shots.

    Was that his first triple double?
    šŸ™‚

    Re: CLE’s underperformance, that was the main reason for going for the 4-5 matchup. It was clear that CLE was just as inexperienced in the playoffs as us, and the one guy with lots of playoff experience has been a key cog on mostly underwhelming playoff teams. So nothing that has happened thus far is all that unexpected. We just have to hope that they continue to be rattled by the pressure while the Villanova Boys keep us on an even keel.

    BTW Garland tweaked his ankle, that could stiffen up overnight and the quick turnaround to Sunday at 1 might be a factor.

    Obi seems correctly cast in his role as backup power forward who can give you some easy buckets off the bench. Probably would be exposed with heavy minutes but is definitely useful in certain matchup situations. Not ideal for a lottery pick, but not useless either.

    Re: Obi, agree 100% JK, he is best suited to be an energy guy off the bench on a good team. And while having him hang on the perimeter is not an ideal situation for him personally in the short run, I’ve come to expect that when he gets an open look from 3, it’s going in. That’s a pretty big deal, and it seems like a lot of his made 3’s are momentum-changing. He’s been pretty ideal for us in his limited role, especially against a team that has such a drop-off at PF whenever either Allen or Mobley are on the bench.

    itā€™s horrific and fantastic that we are up 2-1 averaging 79.5 points per play in the half court. Thatā€™s 7 points worse thank in the Hawks series. But our transition has been fantastic (rj, hart and obi have all helped a lot) and so has our defense. i think mitch has won the allen battle more decisively than it looks statistically. garlandā€™s shooting helped last night, but weā€™re also shooting 28% from 3 in the series. quickley was really disappointing on offense in the first two games, not just result wise, but really failing to create advantages and kind of walking into where the cavs defense wanted him to go. last night he was better. but heā€™s been really incredible on defense. itā€™s crazy to be a small guard who isnā€™t even enough of a one on one stopper to stymie caris levert and yet still be an awesome overall defender, but iq really breaks the tape when it comes to help defense at his position.

    iā€™m hoping grimes his healthy so we can see him at his best. i donā€™t think heā€™s as far from a really useful performance as it looks. itā€™s not a huge surprise that randle has struggled against mobley, though 30% on 2PA in 8 career playoff game is starting to look a little musty. Itā€™s bad luck that his 3pt shot also isnā€™t falling. thank god for jalen brunson. heā€™ll probably shoot better than 12% from 3.

    hi d-mar, hope you’re rested up after your workout playing last evening…

    if you don’t mind, how long have you all been together, is there a particular type of music that you enjoy playing?

    geo, sorry to hear about your recent issue, hope all of that is behind you and retirement puts it to bed forever.

    thanks owen…sometimes it can be useful to know when to pick up your chips and cash them in…

    fear and general stubbornness can make doing the smart thing tough…

    the thing that sticks with me the most at the moment – finding it necessary over the last 35 years to step away from work on 4 other occasions…

    and how cool it is that this is the first time I’m not in the midst of a nervous breakdown…and, i’m actually prepared…and, it’s a date I chose…

    usually when I stepped away before I went to hide and numb myself as much as possible…last time I went to get help…

    I really don’t think I’m retiring z-man, I just need to focus on family, health and home…

    one big lesson I learned from taking off about 7 months last year to get better – you can get a lot of shit done around d the house and with your life sans work…

    I just gotta be smarter reference work going forward…no more high volume, time-sensitive coordinating and processing situations…

    I don’t know, maybe security guard or grocery store stocker…

    hey – shoot, has it been a year yet for you z-man?

    it’s only been about 6 months right?

    any major lessons learned?

    d-mar, can I ask whether the band you saw last night was Sloan (aka the Greatest Band of All Time)? I know theyā€™re playing a couple of nights at the Bowery Ballroom.

    Also, I would like to add Go NY Go! For all of the infuriating moments, this has been the most fun team Knicks to watch for so many years.

    I love how much Mitch has grown as a person as a player (and his interviews) but I mostly love how he realises the other teams are going to try and prevent him from getting rebounds all game so he will selflessly box out and let his teammates go for the bound. He is the anti ā€œGet the f@&k out, Tyson!ā€ and that is awesome.

    I love the enthusiasm of I-Hart backing him up and the way he always looks over to Thibs for approval when he makes a good play.

    And stoic Jericho surprising a smile when he throws it down or sends it back.

    I wasnā€™t sure about IQ at the beginning of the season because he seemed to be trying to be too serious for some reason, without the joy he had in previous seasons. But then he started dancing and prancing again and all was right.

    This isnā€™t basketball related, but it is always awesome to see how much Randle loves his son. Plus that dude is a beast and his physicality is something to behold.

    I love Brunsonā€™s leadership and calming presence. And the Brunson frown. And how his teammates emulate the Brunson frown.

    I love Josh Hart for being Josh Hart. What a trade!

    I love Grimes for his quick decision making and his perfect posture shooting the ball and driving the ball.

    I love Deuce for his passion and picking up his man full court nearly ever time down the floor.

    Heā€™s not getting much time, but when the raw feed shows Fournier going through is pre-game warmup ritual, it is a thing to behold.

    I could go on, but basically what Iā€™m saying is we have a pretty likeable group of guys for the most part.

    And most of all, I love Breen and Clyde. I live in the UK and spend extra money just so I can access the Knicks freed to listen to Clyde. He is truly the Goat and I wish I could make League Pass pay that money directly to him.

    Thank you all for allowing me this moment of positivity.

    I’ve gone in to sub at my old school and helped the new principal (my longtime assistant principal) with some clerical things. It was eye-opening to see how much was going on in her office while not being responsible or even involved in it. Being there totally stress-free was hard to imagine beforehand. I am more fully aware of how oppresive the stress was, probably to the point of being detrimental to my physical and mental health, and how glorious it is to have the necessity of it…and the underlying fear that something could go terribly wrong on any given day that could have derailed my career…that any occasional boredom and uslessness I feel is such a tiny price to pay for the liberation from stress. I’ve also gotten to spend a lot more quality time with my struggling son, and it has meant a lot to him, he’s doing quite a bit better since I retired. That’s the best part of it!

    That’s great to hear, Z-man. Almost as great to hear as us getting an easy text modifier function back on the desktop site. Haven’t checked mobile yet. I love you, Mike K.

    And most of all, I love Breen and Clyde. I live in the UK and spend extra money just so I can access the Knicks freed to listen to Clyde. He is truly the Goat and I wish I could make League Pass pay that money directly to him.

    I watch a lot of tennis these days, and on very legal and very cool streaming sites, you can find the no-commentary feed that they provide to content creators for global highlight reels and unaffiliated archival footage. Just pure competition, untouched by aural advertising and gushing/annoying ex-pros and the like.

    If it came to it, I would pay BIG money to never hear a tennis commentator slobber all over a good match. And the NBA is even worse. But to intentionally watch a Knicks game with Breen and Clyde muted? Never. We really are a lucky fanbase in that way.

    correction: to not have the necessity of it…

    (just trying out the new functionality)

    Antipioneer, nice positivity. I agree wholeheartedly, as critical as I am sometimes.

    And Z-Man, nice to hear. I just finished a delightful nine-month sabbatical (mongo severance package), and surprisingly it was okay. And recently picked up a new gig that seems non-toxic and relatively stress-free (first time in a very long time for either/both). Probably just the honeymoon, but I’ll take it.

    And for the record, we are so doomed tomorrow…

    And most of all, I love Breen and Clyde.

    Based on the way he presents himself in broadcasts, I always thought Breen was a low-profile accessible and relatable person. I was shell-shocked when I heard Jeff Van Gundy revealing Breenā€™s primadonna side in a radio interview on Wednesday. Rightfully considered an “elite” broadcaster, Breen has his own dressing room which is inaccessible to the other three broadcasters who stay…in the hallway! He meets with the others right before the start of the broadcast and, JVG continued, Breen always likes the camera to capture his face first, do it from a specific angle and distance, and so on and so forth. I guess I will never see Breen the same again.

    I had one personal encounter with Breen, and it was delightful. It was pregame in the bowels of MSG. I was with a group of school kids at an event where they would eventually line the route on the Garden where the Knicks came out for their warmups. We were just hanging out while a bunch of celebs walked by, including Dolan.

    Breen then walked passed us. after he got a few steps away, he saw that I was looking at him admiringly and pointing him out to the kids. He then stopped in his tracks, walked back to us with a big smile and shook hands with me and the kids. It came across as an incredibly genuine gesture of kindness, considering that he was actually on his way to his job.

    So I’m going to call bullshit on JVG…if anyone is a bit too big for his britches, it’s him.

    So Iā€™m going to call bullshit on JVGā€¦if anyone is a bit too big for his britches, itā€™s him.

    There are two sides on each coin. I guess those otherwise very polite guys are not so friendly, at least to each other, as it might seem when they do the broadcast. It’s strictly business. The corporate world is a strange and surreal one.

    Having his own dressing room doesnā€™t seem that big of a deal to me

    Van Blunder is a weirdo. Breen is a gentleman in every way. One of the nicest people Iā€™ve ever dealt with in basketball.

    I’ve heard plenty of JVG interviews and not once has he ever said anything negative or derogatory about Breen, quite the opposite in fact. From all indications they all get along great including Mark Jackson, I didn’t hear the interview referred to above but I would assume there were some tongue in cheek comments by JVG.

    “I would assume there were some tongue in cheek comments by JVG.”

    Agreed, and JVG is notable for that kind of stuff…

    To be fair to JVG, he did not present his comments as derogatory but rather as funny. He was insinuating at best. He was talking about a crazy experience he had with someone who was trying to modulate his voice while in the same car with JVG on the way to an arena. Then he was asked about Breen and said he does not know because Breen has his own dressing room, and so on (what I wrote above). There was also a story about a celebrity in the 90s (he didnā€™t say who, but the hosts later concluded that it was probably Madonna) who had given specific instructions that nobody makes eye contact with her. People were prohibited not just from approaching or talking to her, but also from even looking at her.

    That was Wednesday around 4:15 pm on ESPN New York. I would love to go back and hear it again if anyone knows how. I was driving at the time and now I wish I had been more attentive to it.

    I am glad to read folks had positive encounters with Breen as he seems a likeable guy.

    If it was on ESPN NY it was definitely said in fun. JVG always does interviews with Michael Kay and they love making fun of Breen cause Kay went to college with Breen and they are very good friends.

    I kind of understand the ā€œdonā€™t look at meā€ thing when it comes to very famous celebrities, having been around some of them on the periphery.

    Somebody like Madonna walks into a room, every single person is just staring at her the entire time. Everything you do, every single person is observing. I realize thatā€™s the price of mega-fame, but that must get incredibly exhausting. Some people are just cool MFers by nature and it doesnā€™t bother them, but for certain personality types itā€™s just a complete nightmare.

    Itā€™s crazy that thereā€™s a Ranger game at 8 pm tonight and Knicks at 1 pm tomorrow. Thatā€™s some quick turnaround for the Garden.

    I have only been around one celebrity for whom there was a ā€œdonā€™t look at himā€ policy, and that was Lenny Kravitz. There was a ā€œdonā€™t talk to himā€ policy regarding Rivers Cuomo but looking at him was allowed.

    Most of us have a no look policy, we just don’t have to ask anyone to enforce it

    I knew someone who had that policy when she walked into her building with the doorman. People are strange!

    The concerns celebrities have are understandable. However, this comes with the territory, which territory also includes millions of dollars, lavish lifestyles, and a myriad of other privileges of all kinds. Protective measures should be put in place with discreteness and sensitivity. Celebrities are people, but others around them are also people, not dogs. Alas, what is the value of pawns in corporate games of tens and hundreds of millions of dollars?

    Neil Patrick Harris played a coked-up womanizing celebutard in Harold and Kumar. I think Van Gundy is probably going for a similar comedic approach with Breen.

    There was a ā€œdonā€™t talk to himā€ policy regarding Rivers Cuomo but looking at him was allowed.

    This is one of the best lines Iā€™ve ever read.

    The more I watch Bucks vs Heat I start getting irrationally excited about potentially getting to the Conference Finals.

    The more I watch Bucks vs Heat I start getting irrationally excited about potentially getting to the Conference Finals.

    The Knicks are doomed, but, like, for serious, right? How could you not be with both the Bucks and the Heat looking so bad?

    Injuries are part of basketball. The best team doesnā€™t always win the championship. Not only do we have a shot to get past the Cavs and Heat, weā€™ve played the Celtics tough also.

    If it was on ESPN NY it was definitely said in fun. JVG always does interviews with Michael Kay and they love making fun of Breen cause Kay went to college with Breen and they are very good friends.

    I deem you are correct. I found the discussion online and listened through this time. It surely sounds like they are pulling a prank on Breen. I can’t believe what they are saying can be true. Here’s the link. Listen to minutes 17-27. Your call.

    https://www.espn.com/radio/play/_/id/36237611

    Awful to see ā€œdipoā€ go down like that and I hate to see anyone injured but with every guy who goes down the door opens a little wider for us. Lakers putting the hurt on the Grizz is entertaining and Dillon Brooks deserves to be humiliated by LBJ.

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