The Knicks head to Dallas to take on the Mavericks, and since they’re away from the Garden, they’ll have their road court advantage that they’ve had for some weird reason this season.
So hopefully the Knicks beat the Mavericks, which will also help to make the Mavericks’ first round pick better for the Knicks this draft.
Let’s go, Knicks, get back to the winning streak!
169 replies on “2022-23 Game Thread: Knicks @ Mavericks. The Knicks Head to Their Home Away Home, Which Is, You Know, Anywhere But Home”
No Brunson. Out with a ‘hip.’
“CRY HAVOC, AND LET SLIP THE DEUCE OF WAR.”
— Julius ‘Randle’ Caesar
IQ starts.
( will avoid speculating on the Kemba revenge game)
Unfortunately, Raven, gotta report that that quote is from Mark Antony in the play.
Here’s one for Julius Randle Caesar: “I am as constant as the Northern Star.”
Damn it.
Nice quote tho for JR. Feels like ‘I am a stable genius.’
Brunson news is a huge bummer for both watchability and winnability.
The Derrick Rose Game?
Mitch with the post move?!?!?!?!?!
what did i just witness
Barrett out with a right hand injury, Deuce in…
JRC to critics of his play style:
“Hence! Wilt thou lift up Olympus?”
Mitch gonna score 20 today?
Without Brunson and RJ Knicks gonna struggle to score 100 pts.
Grimes has a lean and hungry look tonight!
Raven is gonna get that Deuce stop as an NFT
Can’t watch the game but watching your guys quote Shakespeare is fine.
What did Mitch do?
Mitch posting up like he’s Eddy Curry! That’s actually a compliment.
JFC stop fouling 3pt shooters
Lol, does Thibs have to play Cam now?
Grimes feelin it
Grimes better start missing. This efficiency is absolutely tanking his usage.
Sticking Randle on Bullock is funny. We’re stealing the Hawks’ strategy against us.
I wouldn’t be totally surprised if Thibs put in Svi. He can really shoot and the bench needs scoring.
Grimes has as good a chance of stopping Luka as I do.
Welp, hopefully Mitch has about 25 more of those post moves in him.
I should have known it’d be Rose. And a thirty point quarter without Barrett or Brunson is good. But I don’t know if we can keep it up.
Luka is still Luka it appears
Stuck on the Mavs cast, big homers but they did their homework and talk the Knicks factoids as well as anyone.
Barrett out for the game, no specifics. Randle on the bench with three fouls in the first. Rose sighting. This is gonna be a weird one.
To quote another ancient: Are you not entertained?
Was that Kemba and Frank on the court together? This IS weird…
Love seeing Deuce driving and not just spotting up from 3.
These Sims-Hart minutes together need to end soon.
Surviving the non-Randle minutes is somewhat impressive but then again the Mavs are playing a bunch of guys who weren’t good enough to be New York Knicks
The skies are painted with unnumber’d sparks of Wood’s high arcing threes.
RJ has a laceration on his hand.
Can’t ask much more from our short handed bunch
Gotta love the shorthanded effort tonight but not sure how sustainable it is. Glad we didn’t trade Mitch for Isaiah Stewart and a 2nd.
oh my god we’re running post ups for mitch
Mitch missed that post-up, but he’s still 4-5 so far.
Some infuriating defensive lapses between Randle 3s
Randle #1 lazy fuck … Mitch confirmed has zero post moves
I generally have no complaints about Randle’s play, but those heat check 3’s drive me fucking nuts
Grimes’ defense has been pretty bad the past few games but loving his aggressiveness on offense tonight.
The invisible sixth man has checked in
All in all excellent 1st half for the Knicks but the dreaded 3rd quarter is on the horizon.
Randle should be fined $100K for each time that he takes a shot in the last 10 seconds of a quarter that is not an assisted bunny.
Man, really gonna need to watch this later when I’m free.
Mitch post-ups?!
IQ with 11 assists at half!
Grimes only 4-5 misses from a big game!
Wow. What a half.
Mitch posting by design!! (WHAT?).
Grimes with urgency.
Sims gotta simmer down, though.
Big story to me is that IQ is totally locked in tonight. I’m starting to trust his instincts and court vision even when his shot is not falling. Lotta nice passes and team management. (no jinx, please)
I still think we’re pretending to be a fast team that can score at will (which led to sadness and madness in the last few games), but let’s make it so. WE CAN SCORE AT WILL 😉
It is a fun game, although it helps that no matter where you look there are Knicks everywhere…
Is Hart hurt or is he in Thibs doghouse?
Hart played a bit. 2/3.
PS — without RJ and Brunson, the ball is (seems to be?) going to every single Knick before a shot. Of course, we want those guys back, but it’s worth noting the (eye test) result. Whether we have enough shooters to finish will be interesting to see.
I might prefer Mitch 3s to Deuce 3s
On one hand 21 from Grimes is nice. On the other, he’s only taken 11 shots to get there.
damn Deuce, knock one down!
On Mavblogger they’re calling this the Quentin Grimes game…
Win or lose, IQ and Grimes showing up big time is just awesome.
Like a pack of wild dogs tonight…
I fucking love Grimes.
Leon is basking in the glow of Grimes tonight (so far).
This is comical, Mavs losing at home to our skeleton crew
To our skeleton crew or with our (former) skeleton crew
Non-Deuce Knicks are 16/24 from three
Edit: read the box score wrong, but it’s still 13/25 which is crazy
Deuce made a shot!
I guess with Brunson out someone had to take shoots, Unfortunately for Mavericks the guy is more efficient.
Luka even complains when he gets calls
Grimes max ceiling Tier 6B
I guess all we had to do was replace Barrett’s minutes with more Deuce (no jinx).
I have aired many grievances about the 2021 drat so it’s only fair I say we very well may have picked the single best player left on the board at #25
Hahn is a huge upgrade over Wally filling in for Clyde.
Okay Q4. This is the thing we’ve all talked about. We can stay with folks, but can we close? Let’s go!!
Watching the Mavs really gives you an appreciation for Luka, because you get to see how terrible the rest of them are
Rose c’mon man
“Hahn is such an upgrade over Wally filling in for Clyde.”
Well to be fair he’s got a pulse and speaks English…
Randle’s end of the quarter shots die many times before their deaths…
Knicks killing the Mavs on boards ( 37-27; 8-2 0n ORB)
When is Luka’s contract up? He’s gonna get really tired of playing with this bunch.
Deuce has the yips from 3 but he’s had multiple successful switches on to Luka tonight and has shown some other forms of life on offense. He’s tough to quit.
Just gonna say that Deuce is 3-3 from two…
Grimes ceiling down to tier 7C after blowing that layup
I like sims on luka…
man, is luka ever gonna sit?
WTF did Grimes do there?
get mitch back in
I hate when we let guys just walk into 3’s.
We’re a tired bunch right now
Knicks running out of gas.
Hart gets a WTF too
Our offense went cold this quarter
Hart is just a generic big if he isn’t passing like in LA. Not sure what to do with him
Grimes is the best #6 in Knicks history
IQUOHONES!
Time to bury the Mavs, not to praise them!
Quiiiiiiiick-leeeeee!!!
I fucking Q!
*whispers* this game isn’t great for the theory that we desperately need RJ Barrett’s usage
“Grimes is the best #6 in Knicks history”
Why diss Mike Reardon?
29-17 is a pretty nice line from Julius
Road warriors…
Is this gonna happen again?
I sort of don’t think there’s any point of caring about basketball games with these new refs.
Luka would be well within his rights to demand a trade before taking a shower
Thank you Deuce…one is big…
Deuce > Rory Sparrow
Holy shit, I can’t take this…
Thibs is new doc rivers of late game coaching … and the free throws… deuce hits both and this game is completely over …
Fates, we will know your pleasures…
For Christ’s sake hit ALL your god dam free throws you idiots
oh come on
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.
Ok this is the knicksiest fucking shit ever, come on. What the actual fuck
Vomit inducing
Fuck this team.
And I though nothing could be worse than that Chicago game…
phuk
Man, my feed stopped working and Dallas did something, I don’t know what, to get it to overtime
That’s just some Dolan’s Razor right there.
How many times will Knicks fans bleed in sport?
How we didn’t secure that rebound on Luka’s foul shot is mind boggling
Burn it all to the ground, this franchise is fucking cursed
This team is too painful.
> Man, my feed stopped working and Dallas did something, I don’t know what, to get it to overtime
Satan came out on the court and said the Knicks will never win a championship due to the sins of the owner. He gave the Mavs a 2 pointer with 1 second left.
Here we go with really bad execution… one on one … bad shot taking
sucks that one player is kicking our ass…
this was a bad loss…
Ready to go cold now too???
It’s incredible …
The defense has been stingy in OT…glass half-full
Knicks free throws are no worthier than the dust!
Lots of shot takers … no shot makers, late …
This is like Linsanity in reverse…
Knicks could use RJ right now.
This is affirming the 8 game mirage
You could turn off your TVs once this went to OT.
this is somehow even worse than the bulls game
That’s gonna get overturned
This is affirming the 8 game mirage
You know we’re missing two starters right?
I picked a bad night to curb my drinking…
Doesn’t matter who we’re missing… we had 9 point lead with 30 seconds…
That is as bad as it gets….
(tiny silver lining….Mavs pick more likely to convey!)
Of all the Knicks collapses, this foul deed shall smell above the earth…
They should all be pretty embarrassed about this.
This is more dispiriting than the Bulls. 9 points 1.5 minutes left.
I could’ve done so many other things with those 2.5 hours
Who cares if the pick conveys, it’s just gonna get traded for future 1st rd picks with a million protections.
The Knicks collapsing in the last minute of this game down 2 starters means they’re not better when they’re fully healthy?
(maybe this is a bad time to bring it up, but the foul the guy rather than let him shoot the 3 strategy took a hit there…)
Ugh. It was an amazing game until the last 26 seconds. They’ve got to make the foul shots if they want to close out games. But there was a lot to like in the way they performed in regulation. Tough L.
> I could’ve done so many other things with those 2.5 hours
Staring at a brick wall would have been more productive and fulfilling.
OTOH we just witnessed another Chamberlainesque triple-double…
The Knicks scored 7 points in the last minute of regulation while blowing a 9 point lead, which is insane.
“Okay Q4. This is the thing we’ve all talked about. We can stay with folks, but can we close?”
Not … yet.
They were fully healthy Friday night and choked worse at home against a garbage team.
Just saw the replay of Luka rebounding his own missed foul shot at the end of regulation. Grimes and McBride both had it and fumbled it right to Luka.
The Knicksiest of Knicksiest plays, one for the ages.
I fully believe being a Knicks fan is my punishment for being a Yankees fan.
Guys, ridiculous loss obviously, but 3 of these 4 losses were fluky. Siakam dropped 50, Bulls free throw meltdowns, and Luka’s historic night and injuries did all this.
It sucks and is the Knicksiest outcome possible but this hasn’t changed many of my thoughts regarding the team.
It really came down to McBride going 5-6 instead of 6-6 down stretch from line … tough free throws…
That’s it. Time to start trading some folks. Outside of Brunson and Grimes, everyone is expendable, especially given how many players they left unplayed on the bench. That was a trash loss and Thibs need to go.
Our old friends had a few chances to really F us and they couldn’t … bullock and Timmy couldn’t buy one
I don’t like the backpedaling D on dinwiddie.. it was giving him his rhythmic advantage… the shot he practices a billion times … quick jab to basket .. a dribble … pull up 3 from dead on … toooooo comfy
Yeah man frustrations aside this 4 game losing streak really has been flukey while the winning streak was pretty legit when you look at the point differential, the Knicks at 18-17 are actually slightly underperforming their expected record. But it’s just so emotionally draining watching losses like this and it just re-emphasizes the bullshit we’ve had to watch and deal with since the day JVG quit as head coach.
Derrick Rose officially well done… I think arcidiacono could give us more at this juncture
Tough loss. This is what “play the kids” looks like. They will grow from these end of game experiences.
It also gets tiresome when almost every game the best player on the court plays for the other team.
i mean we managed to dodge the other teams’ best players during the win streak and the season…. and overall we’ve basically had one of the easiest schedules in the league if you account for that….
lady luck will take things away as much as it will giveth… and this is sort of what that looks like…. and we’re still ahead all things considered….
if you want an indication of how good we are… we are now 18-17 and amongst 4 teams between the 6th and 9th seeds with half a game separating everyone… that’s much closer to where we should be than whatever that win streak was….
If you had told any of us before the game we’d lose in OT without 2 of our starters, and that Grimes, Quickley and Randle would all have great games, we’d be pretty satisfied
It was obviously the nature of the loss that was vomit inducing, but big picture, a lot of positives.
you know what – fuck it – i’m doubling down on this evenings entertainment and watching Black Adam…
how much worse can it really get…
I mean, when Jalen Brunson misses the game entirely and RJ Barrett gets hurt a minute in and you go into overtime and yet still only play nine dudes? That’s just dumb. It’s just flat out dumb. It’s “Winning today’s game matters more than anything” thinking, which is, you know, dumb. What the fuck is up with this bullshit?
I don’t knock the players, they played a heck of a game in this loss. It was a thrilling game, and Grimes was magnificent, but you lose a starter a minute into the game, while playing without another starter, and you still only play nine guys? This is just clown shoes.
Was going to wait until tomorrow, but I’m about to ingest a very large amount of single malt so who knows when I’ll get up.
Two reasons we lost (well, more than that, but two big ones):
Randle. Last four minutes, the Knicks stopped playing the beautiful game (someone mentioned earlier how everyone was touching the ball before shots) and went to dreadful Randle isos. Over and over and over again. It was maddening and incredibly ineffective. And guess what? We lost a nine-point lead in moments.
Miles ‘Douche’ McBride. Yeah, I said it. For 44 minutes he was perfectly cromulent, couldn’t hit a three to save his life but so be it. But when they went away from passing it around to the Randle isos we watched him literally catch Frank Disease — from Frank no less! Deer in the headlights, the entire Mavs team played off him daring him to shoot and he wouldn’t. Allowing the Mavs to pack the paint. If Randle goes iso-mad you have to surround him with three knockdown shooters, and we only had two. Plus he was just too short for Dinwiddie, he guarded him well enough but Spencer just rose up over him time and again for his shots.
I actually blame both of these things on Thibs, for not actually recognizing the slow-motion car crashes that were occurring.
And now time to drink. Cheers.
Oh yeah — Mitch Robinson DID score 20. So there’s that.
I 100% agree with Brian. You just can’t play this few guys less than half way through the season. I understand shortening the rotation after the Cam fiasco. I wouldn’t let Cam’s unprofessionalism cost me my job either, but they need more depth. If there’s a trade to be made, they need to go ahead and make it. If there’s no trade somebody’s got to get out of the doghouse. Does anyone know why they traded Feron Hunt?
This game was also a sad reminder of what we don’t have. The Knicks absolutely threw the game, but the Mavericks have the dude who can get a 60/20/10 triple double to carry this garbage dumpster fire of a roster to such an unlikely win. It is what it is.
Remember before the season, when we all said that the roster didn’t make sense, that they had too many guys and they couldn’t play them all? And we all said, “This roster is built for a consolidation trade” and then they just…didn’t do that. And then instead they just…stopped playing guys. That was dumb. This is dumb.
man, when do we play the pistons again…
wow, what a mess Black Adam was…
We should petition the league to make games a minute shorter. We’d be unstoppable.
But seriously, how the fuck does this shit keep happening?
Was super interested in watching a replay of this game, but knowing the ending…