Knicks Morning News (2018.07.28)

  • [ESPN] Fizdale gets to know Porzingis in visit to Latvia
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 10:21:29 AM)

    Knicks coach David Fizdale has spent time getting to know Kristaps Porzingis this week during a trip to Latvia.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks signing Noah Vonleh is low risk, high reward
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 1:15:00 PM)

    By signing Noah Vonleh to a one-year deal, the Knicks have a player to fill in for the injured Kristaps Porzingis who can help other players around him develop.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks’ Fizdale on Porzingis’ rehab: ‘We don’t want to rush it’
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 11:01:00 AM)

    New Knicks head coach David Fizdale said he wanted to have a strong sense of communication with center Kristaps Porzingis, and visiting Porzingis’ home in native Latvia has been a big step.

  • [SNY Knicks] Here’s five things you didn’t know about Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 8:45:14 AM)

    Mitchell Robinson was a bit of an unknown in this year’s draft to say the least, so here are five things you might not know about the Knicks’ new big man.

  • [NYPost] David Fizdale goes the extra mile for Kristaps Porzingis bonding
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 8:20:11 AM)

    Knicks coach David Fizdale has gone international to better his relationship with his best player. Fizdale and his wife, Natasha Sen-Fizdale, ventured earlier this week to Porzingis’ hometown of Liepaja, Latvia, where the couple spent quality time with the Knicks big man and his family, including his brothers, Janis and Martins. Fizdale made sure to…

  • [NYDN] Convicted child rapist busted for illegally selling Statue of Liberty sightseeing tour boat tickets
    (Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:00:00 PM)

    A convicted child rapist was arrested for illegally hawking Statue of Liberty sightseeing boat tickets on park land, authorities said.

    Marc Wellman, 53, was busted on July 20 while selling tickets for the Circle Line company in front of the Staten Island Ferry station, police said.

    The arrest came…

  • [NYDN] The three-fifths New Yorkers: That’s how City Hall treats NYCHA
    (Saturday, July 28, 2018 2:00:00 AM)

    Those of us who have the honor of serving the NYCHA tenants in our congregations, and who have worked with them and their fellow residents to force NYCHA and City Hall to treat them fairly and humanely, have finally realized the heart of the problem.

    NYCHA residents — nearly 500,000 of them — are…

  • [NYDN] House of charlatans: Rep. Jim Jordan follows his President down a dark road
    (Saturday, July 28, 2018 1:10:00 AM)

    From their perches on the House Oversight Committee, Reps. Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows have been busy worker bees, attempting to sabotage Robert Mueller’s necessary investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

    This week, the bees stung, filing preposterous articles of impeachment…

  • [NYDN] Go, go, go: The economy is roaring, mostly
    (Saturday, July 28, 2018 1:05:00 AM)

    The U.S. economy is a galloping horse, a jet plane that’s reached altitude, an express train hurtling forward in the days before the subways started creeping: Pick your metaphor, and it’s mostly true.

    In the second quarter of the year, growth hit an estimated 4.1%, a significant acceleration over…

  • [NYDN] What #MeToo means now: Private sector lurches forward, Albany stumbles with transparency
    (Saturday, July 28, 2018 1:00:00 AM)

    The #MeToo movement has delivered an overdue comeuppance to many powerful men, upending decades in which women’s claims of indignities and even assaults were ignored.

    Left unresolved: How to navigate the brave new world. It is easy to say credible accusations should carry career consequences; it…

  • [NYDN] Readers sound off on the Daily News, Vladimir Putin and abortion
    (Saturday, July 28, 2018 12:00:00 AM)

    Voicers’ balanced views make News

    Forked River, N.J.: Voicers like John Canny are happy that one of the most important things to our democracy — freedom of the press — is under attack. Canny says he will read the New York Post instead because the Daily News is a leftist paper. I actually read both…

  • [NYDN] Man angry over broken phone drives car into Verizon store
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 11:30:00 PM)

    RALEIGH, N.C. — A 74-year-old man ranting about a broken phone drove his car through the glass storefront of a Verizon Wireless store in North Carolina, authorities said Friday, stunning shoppers during the dinner hour at an upscale mall.

    Charles Michael Hager was charged with assault with a deadly…

  • [NYDN] Taliban official says group spoke with U.S. official about plans for peace talks
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 11:15:00 PM)

    ISLAMABAD — A senior Taliban official says the insurgent group has held the first direct talks with a U.S. official in a preliminary discussion about future plans for peace negotiations.

    This week’s meeting with Alice Wells, the U.S.’s top diplomat for South Asia, was an attempt to jump-start talks…

  • [NYDN] Five people indicted on charges of caging, abusing autistic woman
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 11:10:00 PM)

    NEW ORLEANS — Five Louisiana residents now face federal charges for allegedly imprisoning and abusing an autistic woman, two years after they were arrested on state charges in the case.

    Prosecutors allege a litany of horrors against the 22-year-old victim in an indictment made public Thursday evening….

  • [NYDN] Missouri duck boat sank after sudden change in weather, says NTSB
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 10:55:00 PM)

    ST. LOUIS — Video and audio recordings from a fatal tourist boat accident in Missouri show that the lake went from calm to deadly dangerous in a matter of minutes, the National Transportation Safety Board said Friday.

    The NTSB cited preliminary findings gathered from the video recorder camera system…

  • [NYDN] Trump, Putin open to another meeting, possibly in Moscow
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 10:35:00 PM)

    WASHINGTON — Rarely has an RSVP been so complicated.

    President Trump is open to visiting Moscow — if he gets a formal invitation from Vladimir Putin, the White House said. Russian President Putin said he’s game for a trip to Washington — but his answer came only after Trump retracted his invitation…

  • [NYDN] Asdrubal Cabrera traded to Phillies for Double-A pitcher as Mets’ selloff continues
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 10:35:00 PM)

    It seems the Mets, like the Orioles and Blue Jays, have no issues with trading in their division.

    Asdrubal Cabrera is being dealt to the Phillies, an industry source told the Daily News on Friday, for right-handed Double-A pitcher Franklyn Kilome.

    The switch-hitting infielder was the Mets’ best…

  • [NYDN] Michigan parents accused of beating their five kids, keeping them in ‘dungeon’ room
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 10:15:00 PM)

    LANSING, Mich. — A Lansing man accused of whipping and locking his five children in a dark, bedroom as punishment has been arrested on child abuse, unlawful imprisonment and gun charges.

    Police say 32-year-old Yenier Conde was arraigned Friday and ordered held on bond.

    His wife, 28-year-old Sarah…

  • [NYDN] Man arrested after allegedly stealing three vehicles, including tractor, and biting police dog
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 9:50:00 PM)

    DENVER — A man accused of stealing a tractor before leading Denver police on a slow-speed chase through the city also is charged with biting and choking a police dog and stealing two other cars.

    Denver District Attorney Beth McCann on Thursday filed 23 charges against 37-year-old Thomas Busch connected…

  • [NYDN] Mehta: Sam Darnold’s agent is only hurting Jets’ QB of the future with this selfish holdout
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 9:20:00 PM)

    Sam Darnold presumably followed the Jets’ first training camp practice Friday via his burner Twitter account, while his agent continued to senselessly leave him in limbo.

    Darnold is one of the final two unsigned rookies in the 256-man 2018 draft class due to super-agent Jimmy Sexton’s selfishness.

  • [NYDN] Daily Horoscope — July 28, 2018
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 9:00:00 PM)

    Via Tarot Astrologers

    General Horoscope for July 28, 2018

    Whether we’re recovering from emotional exhaustion or cleaning up leftover messes, everything seems larger than life. Ironically, the skies are rather peaceful today, as if they know we could use a dose of cosmic quietness. Thankfully, the…

  • [NYDN] Texas doctor sentenced to 10 years in prison after convicted of sexually assaulting patient
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 8:25:00 PM)

    DALLAS — A Texas doctor accused of sexually assaulting several patients was sentenced to 10 years in prison Friday after he was convicted of assaulting a woman who sought care for a physical disability.

    Donald Ozumba, 45, was found guilty earlier Friday of aggravated sexual assault of an elderly…

  • [NYDN] Mississippi officer fired after using stun gun on handcuffed shoplifting suspect
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 8:20:00 PM)

    A Mississippi police officer lost his job this week after his department released video of him using a stun gun against a handcuffed suspect, according to reports.

    The shocking video shows former officer Daniel Starks place the stun gun against the back of a shoplifting suspect, who is not resisting…

  • [NYDN] Aaron Judge knows he dodged a bullet with wrist injury: ‘It could have been a lot worse’
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 8:15:00 PM)

    It could have been a lot worse.

    At least that’s the Yankees’ mantra a day after disaster seemed to strike in the form of a 93 mile per hour fastball off Aaron Judge’s right wrist on Thursday night. Judge sustained a bone chip fracture in that wrist, but on Friday the Yankees insisted that their…

  • [NYDN] Superintendent resigns after accused of pooping on high school track
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 8:10:00 PM)

    KENILWORTH, N.J. — The school superintendent accused of repeatedly defecating on another high school’s track has resigned.

    The Star-Ledger of Newark reports the Kenilworth school board accepted Thomas Tramaglini’s resignation Thursday. In an email and voicemail sent to staff, the board said it…

  • [NYDN] Trump touts economic growth, but it hasn’t lifted his support — or his party’s election prospects
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 7:50:00 PM)

    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump jauntily celebrated the strong growth numbers released on Friday, appearing in the sun-kissed Rose Garden to claim credit for a humming economy. Yet his own numbers — for the public’s approval — remain unusually low for a president presiding over good times.

  • [NYDN] Ackert: Aaron Boone is optimistic Aaron Judge will return in three weeks, but the Yankees have to find a way to fill that hole
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 6:45:00 PM)

    Aaron Judge seemed a little less certain about the timeline for his expected return from a fractured wrist bone than the team did. The Yankees slugger, sporting a light cast on his right wrist, said that “they haven’t told (him) much” about his rehab for the chip fracture.

    He is just hopeful to…

  • [NYDN] Giants GM Dave Gettleman, with cancer in remission, has same spirit and sense of humor: ‘My energy’s good’
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 5:10:00 PM)

    Dave Gettleman has lost his hair but not his spirit or fervor for the Giants and for life.

    “Let me tell you something,” Gettleman, 67, his cancer in remission and his sense of humor in tact, said Friday in his first public appearance since an early June diagnosis. “(Defensive line coach) Gary Emanuel…

  • [NYDN] Field of Dreams contest winner, 14, invokes Lou Gehrig’s perseverance in winning essay
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 5:00:00 PM)

    Akiva Boyarsky is a young man who understands and appreciates the grind that goes into achieving your goals.

    He’s one of the Daily News’ 2018 Field of Dreams essay contest grand prize winners, and he’s certainly put in the work to finally earn the grand prize.

    “Over the years I have been lucky…

  • [NYDN] Yankees game against Royals is postponed due to rain
    (Friday, July 27, 2018 4:45:00 PM)

    The Yankees game against the Royals was postponed because of rain Friday night.

    The game was rescheduled as a split doubleheader on Saturday at 1 and 7:05 p.m.

    The Yankees will flip their scheduled starters, with Luis Severino pitching the 1 p.m. opener and CC Sabathia pitching in the nightcap….

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    42 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2018.07.28)”

    1. I just looked back at the PGs we’ve had for the past 10 years. Yikes!

      Because I’m a masochist, I had to do this, too. And since being a Knick fan by definition makes us all masochists, you have to do it, too:

      08-09: Chris Duhon, Nate Robinson, Anthony Roberson (didn’t know what we had there, though not really a PG)
      09-10: Duhon, Robinson, Toney Douglas (Do What Toney Douglas Do)
      10-11: Raymond Felton (played well til traded), Chauncey Billups, Douglas, Anthony Carter
      11-12: Baron Davis, Mike Bibby, Douglas, Iman Shumpert (oon after turned into a SG), Jeremy Lin (brilliant for a month, then gone)
      12-13: Jason Kidd (though mainly a secondary ballhandler in 2-PG looks), Felton, Pablo Prigioni
      13-14: Felton, Pablo, Chris Smith, Toure Murry (remember when we were briefly excited about him?)
      14-15: Jose Calderon, Langston Galloway, Pablo, Shane Larkin
      15-16: Caldron, Galloway, Jerian Grant
      16-17: Derrick Rose, Brandon Jennings, Chasson Randle
      17-18: Jarrett Jack, Ramon Sessions, Frank, Trey Burke, Emmanuel Mudiay

      The modern NBA’s most important position, and we’ve run out… this.

    2. Can you blame anyone for desperately wanting Trey Burke to be good and/or for us to sign Kyrie? (I’ve pretty much given up hope on Frank as PG, but hey, we’re due!)

    3. Ahh, more painful moments, thanks DW!

      When you posted that Burke video yesterday, I thought of how many painful Knicks moments I have endured since the Willis Reed days of my childhood. There were the monstrous ones, like Cassell’s 3, Reggie’s 8pts, Charles Smith, the finger roll, the Hibbert block…and the little ones, like Burke, McConnell, Jack, etc.. Even winning when we were praying for losses b/c of TH2, Ndour, Holiday…Damn, we’ve had it rough!

    4. But considering the lack of stars, the albatross Noah contract, the 2-guard conundrum, and the questionable status of KP, I am as optimistic about our 5-year outlook as maybe anytime in that span, which is harder now given how many times that optimism was crushed!

    5. Boy, that list of point guards. There were some I liked, but even though I liked them I knew they weren’t great; and the others were worse. If Phil had actually managed to do the paperwork on time we might have Rubio, but . . . Knicks.

    6. I wonder what the negotiation process looked like, if that is what the Knicks ended up giving up for melo.

      I mean, did Denver ask for 3 #1s and part ownership of the Knicks, but the Knicks negotiated it down to just the whole team sans Amare and only 1 #1? And then they all high-fived eachother for stealing melo?

    7. Argh, what’s done is done.

      In much better news, I looked at Robinson’s high school tape and he actually has a really nice stroke!

      His college situation was incredibly odd, but if it wasn’t we wouldn’t have him. It’s crazy we got such a talented (and big) guy so late in the draft. I was trying to be conservative on his outlook at first, but the prospect of a kp/Robinson frontcourt is pretty damn exciting.

      Now hopefully Burke or whoever can get these guys the rock where they need it.

    8. I mean, did Denver ask for 3 #1s and part ownership of the Knicks, but the Knicks negotiated it down to just the whole team sans Amare and only 1 #1?

      The coup, at the time, was hanging on to Landry Fields.

    9. I posted this at the end of yesterday’s thread, but I think it’s kind of worth repeating:

      Trey Burke
      .563 TS%
      36.4 AST%
      9.5 TOV%
      25.1 USG%
      .145 WS48

      Kemba Walker
      .572 TS%
      27.4 AST%
      10.4 TOV%
      27.4 USG%
      .150 WS48

      Burke was more of a passing-oriented PG than Kemba last year, but overall Burke’s game is similar: solidly efficient scorer with very low turnover numbers for a PG. Their steal, block and rebounding numbers are also very similar.

      Kemba did this in 2700 minutes while Burke did it in only 800 minutes, but if Burke can extrapolate his 2017-2018 over a full season’s worth of minutes he’s very similar to Kemba Walker. Even if he falls off a bit, say his TS% takes a dip to like .530 or something but his AST/TO numbers stay good, then he’s a poor man’s Kemba Walker, which is still a good outcome.

    10. Yes, he looks good. I’m expecting he will be our starting point guard this fall, but stuff could change.

    11. I hope you guys are right but I just don’t think he gets to the rim or the line enough to be Kemba and he’s also worse at defense.

      Unfortunately I think JJ Barea is more likely.

    12. At least some of my optimism is related to Fizdale. He seems like a great coach for kids. Not sure how the X’s and O’s will turn out, but he should be an upgrade from Horny, Rambis, Fisher, Woody and D’Antoni (maybe he’s successful now but he would not be well suited a rebuilding situation, as he proved with us.)

    13. I looked up JJBarea’s stats versus Burke’s. It’s a pretty good comparison. See below. Getting someone like that for the price of Burke is a good deal, but is still not really a league average starting point guard. Of course, we all hope for more.

      https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=J.J.+Barea&player_id1_select=J.J.+Barea&player_id1=bareajo01&y1=2010&player_id2_hint=Trey+Burke&player_id2_select=Trey+Burke&y2=2018&player_id2=burketr01&idx=players

    14. @4 Charles Smith is still trying to get that put back to go down, thanks for reminding me.

      Not to mention Ewing and Starks taking turns in different games shooting like Stevie Wonder against Houston in the finals. If one of those guys just had an awful shooting game instead of catastrophic, the Knicks could have been champions.

    15. (maybe he’s successful now but he would not be well suited a rebuilding situation, as he proved with us.)

      He was doing fine with Gallinari, Chandler, and Fields. Then “he whose name shall not be spoken” wreaked havoc on all that was good.

    16. Barea has a fairly average turnover rate though, while Burke has managed to keep his impressively low throughout his career. To me the low turnover rate is really Burke’s “hook,” it’s the thing that makes him kind of unique.

      Burke is similar to Barea in that he doesn’t get to the line much though, so… maybe he’s like Barea with a better A/TO ratio? So a “rich man’s” Barea or a “poor man’s” Kemba, somewhere in there.

    17. Very few diminutive PGs in NBA history have put up a 30+% assist rate with under a 10% turnover rate in significant minutes. The names that come up with Burke are Terrell Brandon, Mike Conley and Gus Williams. If you lower the bar somewhat to 12%, names like Chris Paul, Allen Iverson, Nick Van Exel, Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, and lo and behold, Steph Marbury pop up. Some of the names are higher usage guys that maybe don’t turn the ball over because they either get fouled or simply miss shots. But it is pretty impressive how well he takes care of the ball given how much he passes.

      One thing that is clear is that Burke’s low FT rate really stands out. I wonder if he realizes that and can work on it. He looks to be physically up to the task, and did get up to .247 in the G-League. I wonder if Perry and Fiz are aware of this and are making it an area of emphasis for him. I guess when you’re hitting long 2’s at 56% you don’t need to get fouled, but that can’t last.

    18. Yeah Van Exel is another guy who came to mind. Trey is definitely slicker than those guys so you never know I guess.

    19. If you discount the pre-Knicks Burke, I don’t think JJ Barea is a good comparison at all. JJ never posted a WS48 of over .100, has a career TS% of .516 (never above .535 in his prime), never had an OBPM over 1.1 in his 20’s (Burke’s was 4.2). Burke is also a potentially better defender due to his a 6’5″ wingspan. He may not be as crafty or clutch as Barea was ith Dallas in a limited role, but he certainly was a better all-around player last year than Barea ever was, and much more capable of being a starter and playing 30+ minutes a game. IF he plays like he did last year!

    20. Yeah, like I said last night it’s the free throw rate that is likely the key for Burke. It’s very tough to finish inside or draw fouls for a 6 foot guard, but if he can’t shoot at least 3 to 4 free throws a game it’s hard to see him maintaining efficiency on offense, specially as he’ll be playing against starters and will be one of the main offensive options / will be guarded closely. That’s one of the things Kemba does much better than him and helps him be an effective player on offense.

      He has the quickness to do it I think, but since he’ll probably always be a minus on defense he really has to keep a good ts% and the same ast to TO rate to be a plus starter.

    21. One of the things that works against guys like Burke drawing fouls is that he’s so adept at getting a good look at the basket by getting his man off balance and then going to step-back moves for jumpers, or using floaters instead of getting all the way to the basket. It’s amazing that he put up a 56% TS without getting fouled much, but yeah, that’s probably not sustainable. Interestingly, he shot an incredible 73% from 0-3 ft. That’s higher than Paul, Curry or Harden ever shot, and on a par with Clint Capela!! Is that sustainable?!

      Re: defense, another thing that stands out about him is that he hardly commits any fouls. he only averaged 2.0 fouls per 36, which suggests that he could be more aggressive defensively.

    22. Herre’s another fun fact about Burke’s season. Only 4 guys who played over 700 minutes have posted a TS of 56% or higher on a usage of 24% or higher and a FT rate of under .200.

      Klay Thompson (3X)
      Steph Curry and his Dad
      Jason Terry

    23. I look at our PG history like this:
      Golden years: Clyde
      In Between: Ed Sherrod
      Since then: A guy we made fun of because of a pic of him eating cupcakes, a guy with a party SUV, a guy who won the heisman, a guy who do what only he do, a guy who tore it up in China and is now tearing up The Basketball Tournament, a guy who do what he do, whatever that means, a guy who we had to sign to keep his crazy brother happy, LINSANTY, and Pablo. sweet, sweet Pablo. how I miss him.

      Only way that group gets worse is if Mardy Collins hung out with Cosby while at Temple.

    24. OMG…..I forgot!!! A guy who won rookie of the year thanks to a sweet tear drop, but was famous for tying his wedding ring to his sock while he played, and then cheating on his wife with a stripper. And he thought Harry Barnes was possessed. But Rod Strickland was cool

    25. Kind of why I’m not that against signing Kyrie. A real pg makes everything else so much easier. He’s a melo level talent, but he’ll only cost money and he plays a more important role. Adding him and a top pick to KP, Robinson, Frank and Knox is at least interesting.

    26. Toney Douglas Do What Toney Douglas Do was a great nickname, even if he was never much of a player.

    27. Melo never posted a .200 WS/48 regular season (Kyrie did that last year) or playoffs (which Kyrie did twice). Kyrie Irving is a legit top 10-12 talent in the NBA and is the greatest ball handler ever, so the Melo-level comp is actually underselling how good he actually is. Kyrie Irving is more like an Amar’e Stoudemire level talent and that’s absolutely worth the max so long as the knees hold up which of course is the caveat in all of this. Adding Kyrie and a high lottery pick to a healthy Porzingis and a young Knicks team is about as bright an outlook the Knicks have had since the Melo trade ruined the decade.

    28. @31, Glassive, with all due respect, Kyrie is a great dribbler, not as great a passer. What about, in no particular order, Magic, AI, Cousy, J-Will, Stockton, Isaiah (the 1st), Steph, and, in my mind, the greatest ballhandler of all time, Pistol Pete?

    29. I won’t go into the whole ball handling thing, but I do agree Irving is a better player in his prime than Melo was. The whole media fawning over Brad Stevens actually undersold what a fantastic season he was having before getting injured.

      I don’t think he’ll ever be a fantastic passer but that’s not what he does, he’s a primary scorer who can also create a bit for others. I don’t think he’s the most ideal fit next to Porzingis but if you could guarantee to me he’ll stay healthy for 80% if his games I would not be against it at all.

    30. Kyrie would be the best NYKs guard since the sainted duo of Clyde and Pearl. He’ll provide great scoring and clutch play. Not a great defender, nor a great creator for others, having had LBJ carry that load in CLE. We would need to find playmaking from other sources. Would be a good PnR player with KP and possibly Rob. Won’t cost anything other than money, but I hope the Cap hit isn’t to severe. Imo, overall he’s the quickest pickup to take us to contender status.

      In fact, Pearl is a great comp for him: great competitor, bad knees, great dribbler and scorer, not much else. Clyde and the rest compensated for Pearl’s deficiencies, including the lack of playmaking for others, and I believe the NYKs would have a similar set of traits to integrate and cover up for. I still say go for it.

    31. Kyrie looked into the eyes of the beast and slew him with one of the great daggers in NBA history. I like that.

    32. Z. Great clutch shot no doubt. One of the greatest. Kyrie a great offensive player on both ends of the court. Go for him but form the roster to complement his strengths and weaknesses.

    33. That’s the main difference to me.

      Going for Melo destroyed our team because A) he was not a superstar B) we gave up every possible asset to get him.

      There’s a chance Irving, who is actually a superstar, is not a superstar for the Knicks simply because of injuries and decline towards the end of the contract when he would be 30, but it would be just like if we had signed only Amare: we would still have all our assets and could get out of the contract much easier or build around him if we still had the players and assets we threw Denver’s way.

      I don’t think the Knicks would be contenders just by adding him, but it’s 100% a better move than adding Melo at that price ever was (or adding Melo as a free agent for that matter). I’m still scared about the injuries and I’d obviously rather get a guy like Durant, Giannis or Anthony Davis, but there’s legitimate reason to be excited about a possible move like this, specially if Knox, Robinson and Ntilikina show good signs of development this season and we get a high draft pick.

    34. The fact that Z-man bases his desire to acquire a player on one shot attempt tells you everything you need to know about his basketball evaluation acumen.

    35. @41 I see you’ve been over-sampling what you bought last week. Better slow down or it won’t last.

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