Knicks Morning News (2016.04.08)

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Carmelo, Dolan both have lot riding on Knicks coach (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 04:19:40 GMT)

    If Carmelo Anthony needed a lesson on how to really throw his weight around Madison Square Garden he could have asked Patrick Ewing.

  • [New York Daily News] Raissman: MSG TV still avoiding big questions for Knicks (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 01:29:09 GMT)

    When he is on camera, Phil Jackson is hard to miss.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Become 2nd NBA Team to Win 70, Beat Spurs 112-101 (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 06:36:43 GMT)

    Stephen Curry and the Golden State Warriors reached a milestone that only Michael Jordan’s Chicago Bulls have achieved in the history of the NBA.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Beat Spurs, Sew Up Home Court Advantage (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 06:06:28 GMT)

    The Golden State Warriors clinched home-court advantage through the NBA playoffs on Thursday night, riding a strong defensive performance to a 112-101 victory over the San Antonio Spurs in a historic meeting of the league’s top two teams.

  • [New York Times] Warriors 112, Spurs 101: Warriors Beat Spurs to Reach 70 Wins, Two From Matching Record (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 05:38:43 GMT)

    Stephen Curry scored 27 points as Golden State became the second N.B.A. team to win 70 games in a season. The Warriors must sweep their final three games to surpass the 1995-96 Bulls.

  • [New York Times] NBA Capsules (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 05:33:42 GMT)

    Stephen Curry scored 27 points and the Golden State Warriors became the second team to win 70 games in a season by beating the San Antonio Spurs 112-101 on Thursday night, wrapping up home-court advantage throughout the playoffs.

  • [New York Times] Timberwolves Follow Golden State Stunner With Win Over Kings (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 04:45:34 GMT)

    Gorgui Dieng had 18 points and 13 rebounds, Zach LaVine and Nemanja Bjelica also scored 18 points, and the Minnesota Timberwolves beat the Sacramento Kings 105-97 on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Rockets’ Playoff Hopes Dim After Loss to Suns (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 04:18:28 GMT)

    James Harden wore a somber expression in a virtually empty locker room late Thursday night, a scene that painted the perfect picture of the Houston Rockets’ season-long struggle with failure and frustration.

  • [New York Times] Heat Rally Past Bulls, 106-98 for 46th Win of the Season (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 03:42:36 GMT)

    Dwyane Wade wanted Miami to view Thursday night as a close-out opportunity, a chance for the Heat to essentially finish off a Chicago team desperate to keep its season alive.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Hawks Top Raptors; the Rockets and the Bulls Fall (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 03:29:10 GMT)

    Jeff Teague scored 23 points as Atlanta, in third place in the Eastern Conference, topped second-seeded Toronto. Houston and Chicago lost and neared elimination from the playoffs.

  • [New York Times] Teague, Korver Help Hawks Hold Off Toronto (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 03:03:43 GMT)

    Jeff Teague scored 23 points, Kyle Korver added 14 and the Atlanta Hawks held off the Toronto Raptors for a 95-87 victory on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Suns End 7-Game Skid With 124-115 Win Over Rockets (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 03:03:41 GMT)

    Mirza Teletovic scored 26 points off the bench, P.J. Tucker added 24 and the Phoenix Suns dealt another blow to the Houston Rockets’ dwindling playoff chances with a 124-115 victory on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: A Plea for Patience Probably Resonates With Phil Jackson (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 03:02:12 GMT)

    Jackson would have to agree with the points Sam Hinkie made in his 76ers resignation letter, given the critiques of his Knicks tenure so far.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Don’t Plan to Rest Stars for 2 Games vs Warriors (Fri, 08 Apr 2016 01:37:18 GMT)

    If the Golden State Warriors are going to set the NBA single-season wins record, they will have to go through a full-strength San Antonio squad to do it.

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    21 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.04.08)”

    1. To continue the last thread, yeah, Phil seems to have done at least an OK job so far, with some great moves in there as well (Grant for Hardaway, Porzingis, and Lopez. His bad moves were mostly short-term, like Rambis and Afflalo. Yes, he did hire Fisher.). It’s in filling in the backcourt, coaching, and his triangular obsesssions that hold us back at this point. We’ll know about all three in the next 6 months.

    2. The only interesting thing in Isola’s piece today saying Dolan mostly has stayed out of basketball affairs and only blocked Jackson changing the medical staff:

      Dolan’s message was simple: they work for me. You run the basketball operation. But other than low-balling Steve Kerr, Dolan has mostly stayed out of basketball decisions. He’s been true to his word.

      What! Only low balling Steve Kerr? Isn’t that a little like saying, “Other than that, Mrs Lincoln….. how did you like the play at Ford’s Theater!”

      So Jackson picked the best possible guy (Kerr) and Dolan “low balled” him? I thought that was on Jackson, but apparently not.

    3. What! Only low balling Steve Kerr? Isn’t that a little like saying, “Other than that, Mrs Lincoln….. how did you like the play at Ford’s Theater!”

      So Jackson picked the best possible guy (Kerr) and Dolan “low balled” him? I thought that was on Jackson, but apparently not.

      Kerr had a handshake deal to be the Knicks’ coach, but then the Warriors came calling with a better team and more money. Considering what we know about Dolan (he’s vindictive as all hell), he didn’t want to match the Warriors’ offer after Kerr broke his handshake deal. While I disagreed with that (I figured you should at least try to match the other offer), I find that extremely hard to call that “low-balling.” The odds are that Kerr turns the Knicks down even if they did match the Warriors’ offer (which is why Jackson didn’t push the issue). The Warriors situation was just a lot better than the Knicks. Closer to his family, with a better team and more money? And more control? I mean, come on.

    4. Anyone else find it very unbecoming for Rambis to be trashing Fisher?
      Especially when the team has been worse with him than it was with Fish?

      Players aren’t playing particularly hard for him.
      KP has regressed.
      Rotations make no sense (even less than Fisher’s!)
      And yet Melo still playing 38 minutes/game.

    5. Kerr had a handshake deal to be the Knicks’ coach, but then the Warriors came calling with a better team and more money. Considering what we know about Dolan (he’s vindictive as all hell), he didn’t want to match the Warriors’ offer after Kerr broke his handshake deal. While I disagreed with that (I figured you should at least try to match the other offer), I find that extremely hard to call that “low-balling.” The odds are that Kerr turns the Knicks down even if they did match the Warriors’ offer (which is why Jackson didn’t push the issue). The Warriors situation was just a lot better than the Knicks. Closer to his family, with a better team and more money? And more control? I mean, come on.

      I have no idea precisely what went down, but Isola used the term “low balling”. Your description of the events isn’t low balling by any sense of that term.

      Only a moron wouldn’t chose the Warriors once the position became available. Is there some published timeline of the Kerr Jackson negotiation? If they were in some sort of agreement and Dolan was dickering over price and then Kerr was approached By GS, then that is almost worse then the Bargs trade.

      I am curious how it actually went down.

    6. Anyone else find it very unbecoming for Rambis to be trashing Fisher?
      Especially when the team has been worse with him than it was with Fish?

      Players aren’t playing particularly hard for him.
      KP has regressed.
      Rotations make no sense (even less than Fisher’s!)
      And yet Melo still playing 38 minutes/game.

      Of course it’s unbecoming, but hey, look who his mentor is. This is pretty much status quo now.

    7. Some Knicksy false rumors I’m starting…..

      “Reports are that Dolan is interviewing Isiah Thomas for GM”

      “Stephan Marbury is due to retire from China and will be the next coach of the Knicks, working only AWAY games.

      “Knicks are trading Carmelo Anthony and 2 future 1sts for Deron Williams – because we need a point guard and want to corner the market on D-Wills.”

    8. I am curious how it actually went down.

      Huh, like so many stories involving this team, it has apparently changed repeatedly since 2014. At the time, it was that the Knicks offered 4 years/$20 million and the Warriors offered 5 years/$25 million. That Kerr verbally agreed to sign with the Knicks, but then the Warriors came in with their better offer.

      Berman then said a few weeks later that the Warriors actually offered 5 years/$22 million. He also said that Jackson opened with 3 years/$13 million, before adding a fourth when he heard Golden State was involved. That would be the “low ball” offer. Berman, at the time, though, said that Dolan was not involved at all.

      Now we have Isola saying that it was Dolan who put the “low ball” offer out there, not Jackson.

      So I really don’t know what story is the truth. Dolan is a moron, so I’d easily believe he would do something like that, but Jackson wants to give Kurt Rambis an extension, so I shouldn’t put it past him, either.

    9. Of course it’s unbecoming, but hey, look who his mentor is. This is pretty much status quo now.

      Changing The Culture 2016

    10. Isola has been consistent at least. Here’s from an article when they were in negotiations:

      The Knicks, according to a source, are still the front runner, but the two sides have yet to agree to the terms of a contract. There are various reports that the Knicks are holding firm at offering Kerr a four-year deal while Kerr’s representatives are seeking a five-year contract.

      In theory, that makes sense from the Knicks’ standpoint because Kerr has zero head coaching experience. However, Garden chairman James Dolan has a history of overpaying his employees as evidenced by his decision to pay Jackson $12 million annually. In fact, Dolan likes to throw his money around as a way to show his power.

      So why squabble over years and money with Kerr? It could be just a negotiation ploy or perhaps Dolan is not thrilled about hiring Kerr.

    11. But nowhere in that 2014 Isola article does he mention that Dolan was actually involved in the negotiation. He just made reference to Dolan’s past involvement in earlier negotiations. The earliest I saw Isola actually specifically blame Dolan was in 2015. Heck, in the 2014 article, he specifically says that it doesn’t seem like a typical Dolan negotiation, right?

    12. You’re right. Isola tends to use Dolan and/or Isiah as the Knicks’ Keyser Soze. What seems likely is that the Knicks probably did have time to lock up Kerr before Golden State came around (they didn’t approach Kerr until Stan Van went to Detroit), but he was holding out for 5 years. In retrospect it was a bad move, but at the time, giving 5 guaranteed years to a guy with 0 years of head coaching experience would seem sketchy.

    13. @#9. I think ESPN and Bleacher Report have already picked up your D-Will rumor and run with it!
      “A Source close to the Knicks says…”
      :-)

    14. Any heavy judgment you make about the Kerr/Fisher situation is strongly tinted by hindsight. No one knew Kerr was going to do so well as coach. He was a mediocre executive who ironically hampered D’Antoni’s small ball style by trading for Shaq. He also bribed his way into tax/cap savings by giving Seattle 2 first rounders to take on Kurt Thomas. He didn’t seem particularly innovative or forward thinking in that role, and IMO as an analyst, he mostly spent his time stating the obvious in a folksy/pragmatic tone.

      W/r/t Phil, summer 2014/15 was just like summer 2010. We signed some okay veterans to okay contracts and became an almost okay team. We signed an aging star with serious injury red flags to a gigantic contract. But you can set a team back dramatically while at the same time making trades and signings that as individual bubbles all seem fair.

      What distinguishes a competent GM from a bad one is that he understands the big picture view and has the balls to make the kind of choices that are appropriate for a team in his team’s position.

      Phil hasn’t. The moves he’s made as a whole would fit for a mid-tier playoff team with a decent stock of young players already in hand. He’s brought in a second rounder here and there; he hasn’t sacrificed the future. But he hasn’t done much to improve it.

      Without a GM that can see reality, your team will go nowhere. Guaranteed.

    15. For the record, I do have something better to do than watch this game-just not for another 20 minutes

    16. For the record, I’m posting this from the VIP section of Moulin Rouge in the Red Light district and I have no idea what is going on in this inconsequential game. That said, I really like playing Melo 20 minutes and counting in the first half here. Anyone can hit the driver. Kurt Rambis putts. Comma omitted.

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