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35 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.06.09)”
I didn’t get a good offer to cash out. Confidence in OKC was still pretty high after game 1 and hedges were expensive. I’m trusting the Pacers to get a game in Indiana instead and maybe put some fear in the bookmaker.
i too expect the pacers to win a game at home but not both of them
That’s fair. Betting OKC can’t be much of a hedge.
The box score shows the Thunder played 14 guys last night is that possible?
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…hahaha! Just kidding! 😛
Just trying to check who is still reading the blog. 😉 😀
They unloaded the bench late but played their normal 10-11 guys….
You watch them and there are four guys on the team who I would swap for Bridges and feel confident we’d improve substantially….
Yeah, Mikal was a disappointment this season. Is there a track record of players getting a lot better in the 2nd season with a new team? Can we have hope?
Spit-take successfully provoked. 😉
…and Hartenstein is their 2nd-highest paid player at 28.5 mil.
Leon did about the best he could do with his plan, but the OKC model is a work of art.
Is there a track record of players getting a lot better in the 2nd season with a new team?
Yes, and with the Knicks quite recently–Julius and Jalen and iHart
I thought the max number of active players was 13
it is 15
Not to say that Leon Rose hasn’t made mistakes, because he definitely has, but it’s a lot easier to do what OKC did when you’re starting out by trading Russell Westbrook, Paul George, and Chris Paul vs the 21 win shit show that Phil Jackson and Steve Mills left us with.
Hartenstein’s glow up started in the second half and playoffs of his first season, but his second was much better overall in a variety of ways. It sounds absurd now that we all think, 100% correctly, that the stupid Early Bird rules cost us multiple championships, but he was largely considered a disappointment in the first half of his first season. Some people even felt that Leon got had by his high BPM with the Clippers.
Me neither. The team made the ECF healthy. It was tweaks away from taking the next step. Now it’s in shambles, being torn apart. Dolan.
Reports of Russel Westbrook moving closer to signing with Hapoel Tel Aviv on a mega deal:
REPORT: Hapoel Tel Aviv Preparing “Never Before Seen” Offer To Lure Russell Westbrook To Europe
Met offense is now handily one of the best in baseball.
It’s incredible what a series in Coors Field can do for a group.
WRC+ 116 (4th in MLB, 3rd in NL)
Runs per game 4.62 (8th/5th)
BB/K 0.48 (3rd/2nd)
OPS 756 (6th/4th)
WAR 12.5 (5th/4th)
BABIP 285 (21st)
Cmon, don’t be so down. The team isn’t getting torn apart, it’s just getting a new coach. Of course there is no guarantee we will be as good, but it’s unlikely we will be bad. You have to think about the possibility the players are right, they weren’t working well together. If this true, they could be better, assuming they still put forth effort. I’m hoping so.
And I hope I’m not jinxing anything with this comment.
iHart supposedly had a nagging injury during his stint here. I’m not sure how much of that was improvement vs being healthier.
The glass half full view of Bridges is that he has taken more FTs in previous seasons, and doubling his FT rate could make him a very good player.
So many things are possible for Knicks 2025-26.
We do not know the coach.
We do not know the roster, but we know that the Knicks could bring back the same roster because the top seven (KAT/OG/Hart/Bridges/Brunson/Mitch/Deuce) are all signed for next year.
We are starting with a talent base that got the 3 seed and to the ECF this year. Even if there are trades, I would not expect that the short-term talent base will go down.
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SAS says we should hire Mark Jackson
I am now officially at DEFCON 1 or 5, whichever is the bad one…
Oh Owen, he pushed your button. Clickbait, Owen. He’s a professional provocateur. It’s how he makes his money. It’s his schtick. Which I’ve always wanted to hit him with, right in the face… although it looks like someone did that to him earlier…
Idk, is Dolan dumb enough to listen to SAS? Otherwise, we should be fine.
The problem is that Mark Jackson might be one of the 15 current or former NBA coaches that Leon Rose has actually heard of
Instead of hiring Mark Jackson, can we just make a Bobblehead that says “hand down, man down” any time you touch it? Should be cheaper.
They should dispense with the Executive of the Year award and just give Sam Presti Executive of the Century.
I’d be ok with Taylor Jenkins. He was dealing with a shitshow in Memphis and will probably do well with law-abiding players. I forget, does Sam Cassell have character issues, or is he just not a great coach?
I forget sometimes that there are regular folks simply tuning in for some knicks basketball talk, not sure how they might find the place, but if they did – what a mad bunch we must seem…
fair to point, my fanatism died down over 20 years ago, were it not for the passion infested upon me by folks, surprisingly many of whom are not even on this continent, i’d probably have a more nihilistic view of the knickerbockers than donnie pacers fan since March of just a few months ago…
which is to say, that flame might’ve burned out…
people tell on themselves, a lot…
what the heck
Mets have 3 of the top 25 qualified pitchers in ERA
Senga – 1.59
Peterson – 2.80
Holmes – 2.95
That’s not including Canning who would qualify if he weren’t a little under the innings threshold.
We’ve certainly seen that play out in ways I won’t go into on hoops blog …
Question: while I share the concern of many here about the next coach, can we put the “Leon is clueless and only hires his former clients” schtick to bed if he brings in someone good? I feel like we’ve been here before (with players, not the coach), and while there are some risible errors, there are also pleasant surprises. The jury is out, and this may be the defining moment. If he somehow he nails it, it would be nice to avoid the doom and gloom for a change.
rama, was that an actual attempt to preemptively prevent doom and gloom?
Kicking to curb yadda yadda.
Would be nice, though…
I think the worst part of the doom and gloom has been preemptively freaking out because Dolan was involved in the firing.
Someone said this yesterday and I think it is true. Just because Dolan used to be incompetent and meddling doesn’t mean he is now. 99% of his incompetence and meddling came before he hired Phil Jackson. He has largely stayed out of all bball decisions except when a firing of a coach was justified. His biggest mistake with Phil was waiting to fire him after Phil got to draft Frank.
I’m not saying he’s good or that he’s a good person. Just that he is older than he was back in the Isiah/Donnie days and he really hasn’t shown himself to be an idiot in a long time. People do mature and grow up, even entitled silver spoon billionaires! The worst thing he’s done in recent history was the stupid fued with Oak and some of that was Oak’s fault.
It’s only logical that if firing someone would cost him $30 million dollars that as the owner of the team he might want to have a say in that decision. It’s also not out of reach to think that Leon WANTED Dolan to be the one who signed off on it since Thibs is a personal friend of Leon. And all the things we’re reading in the paper suggest that the reasons he was fired lines up with the reasons we all thought he should be fired.
And a lot of names have been floated out as possible coaches. We just don’t know what decision will be made and, of course, the uncertainity is excruciating. Thibs brought a base level of competence and was a security blanket to some degree.
Now if they star fuck and get some bad coach and then trade half the team for Durant, we can fully go back into LOL Knicks mode. But I just think we should reserve judgement and not just freak out immediately simply because Dolan was involved in the firing process. That process seemed to play out in a logical way.
Pretty much agree with you, Swiftie, but I used ‘preemptively’ first…
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