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Z-man says:
July 20, 2026 at 00:17
On the July 9 thread, Doogie brought up Dylan Cardwell as a trade target. I wonder whether a bunch of 2nds and any of our non-rotation guys would be enough to pry him loose.
Knicks in ’26 says:
July 20, 2026 at 01:01
Would be even happier with Cardwell than I would have been with Cisse—as I’ve said a few times, we don’t use our draft picks, anyway, so we should definitely use them to pry away someone of value from another team. But I’m starting to get to the point where I’m thinking…….if they were going to do something like that, I don’t know what they’re waiting for. I don’t even know why they waited so long to extend an offer sheet to Cisse. I mean, yes, more guys might come available as the summer wears on, but so will our sense of desperation to other teams looking to pull a heist on us. And no one wants to help the reigning champs, in the first place, so although it feels beautiful to be able to finally write those words, that’s something else that we’ve got working against us, too.
The Cisse thing is just odd. As Doogie notes, we waited a long time to do it, and it had such an incredibly low chance of succeeding.
That said, it’s clear the FO knows we need a third center of some kind by the time the season begins. Maybe there’s a training camp competition, maybe we wait to see who gets cut by other teams, maybe another trade happens with a team that has too many centers?
[extremely fake Yoda voice]
There is another Moussa.
– Cardwell seems like the type of player the Kings should consider keeping if they want to turn things around.
[Speaking of Sacto, by my count, Doug Christie makes the sixth player from the 1994-95 Knicks to have a HC job either in the NBA or a major college program]
– Does OKC trading Dort change the thinking that OKC seemed comfortable being in the 2nd apron?
You don’t have to win either one to make extra money. You make more just by advancing further. Just being on the Knicks, Thunder, Spurs etc.. is likely to be worth more money than being on the 76ers unless you think the 76ers are better than the Knicks now.
For the best players, it’s extra money they don’t really need, but for guys like HUK it would close the gap even of just theoretical value until they do it.
It’s pretty clear that, now that all ownership sees the actual consequences of going into the second apron, we can safely conclude that not a single owner faced with the same circumstances today would have gone into the second apron to retain a TPMLE-level player like Mitch.
-While the OKC comparison is not perfectly analogous, it’s pretty clear that, like us, they a) had the best chance of fielding a proven championship team this year by simply running the one from less than 400 days ago back with Dort, Joe, and Wiggins, and b) like the Knicks, they parted with a key player (actually a starter), who on that championship team was similarly impactful to Mitch (4th in DPoY voting, 1st team all-defense) and who is clearly more reliable than Mitch (averaged more than 70 games over past 4 seasons). And like Mitch, he was the longest tenured home-grown player.
-The brilliance of Presti’s work over the decade (after his Blunder of All Blunders—squandering James Harden) was creating a framework based on flexibility and redundancy inherent in rookie-scale deals and unprecedented draft capital. The Knicks were unprepared to lose Mitch, not because of the apron, but because they didn’t have the foresight to have a viable low-cost replacement in the pipeline. Nor did they have the foresight to extend Mitch when they could have so he could have been traded (although Dort was traded for a pittance) rather than “lost for nothing.”
1000 percent to everything Z just wrote. It makes me feel slightly better to know that another team in much the same boat as us (perceived championship contender in 2027) had to make the same ugly decision as us (letting go of a key cog) because of the second apron. And like Z also said, in their case, it was actually a long-term *starter*. I guess misery really does love company.
Predictable responses, something like “Well, the Knicks don’t have the extended championship window that OKC has so they had way more reason/urgency to buck the trend, and besides, the non-financial penalties of going into the second apron are grossly overstated, so it comes down to Dolan being either cheap or stupid.”
While this all might be true, it is also probably the case that any of the other 29 owners/groups’ names could have been inserted into the statement and it would have not changed a thing. So we’re essentially bashing Dolan for not being different than all the others.
Is there anything that might distinguish the 2025-2026 New York Knicks from all of the other NBA teams? Maybe something that might give them a particular impetus to retain as much of the team as possible?
Nothing comes to mind immediately. But I do have a weird memory of something like this.
“Is there anything that might distinguish the 2025-2026 New York Knicks from all of the other NBA teams? Maybe something that might give them a particular impetus to retain as much of the team as possible?”
We care more about the situation with them because they are the only ones that are *ours*. Thus, it understandably hurts and affects us more acutely.
Whoosh.
Not really. I know.
Wait, let me see…the Knicks are trying to win a championship in 2026-27? Oh, I get it. All of the other 29 teams aren’t interested in that. OKC clearly isn’t interested because they just broke up a proven championship core. Boston clearly isn’t interested either. No one is!
Again, it really, really sounds like we don’t all agree that Dolan did a stupid thing here.
And the logic is not sound. Just because 29 other teams avoided the second apron this year doesn’t mean it made sense for the Knicks to.
Lastly, referring to Mitch as “a TPMLE level player” is either a typo (you may have meant MLE level player) or an egregious attempt to troll Mitch stans. I’m happy to give you the benefit of the doubt on that.
BTW, they did retain as much of the team as possible under the restrictions that every other team is abiding by.
If folks would just admit that the other 29 owners would have made the same decision that didn’t make sense, we’re all good. I wish Dolan would have done what makes sense. Alas, we live in a world that that is impossible no matter who owned the team (out of the current owners, most of whom are equally “senseless” and have proven as much.)
An argument could be made (a bad argument, and not one to be made by me) that the Knicks are the only one of the 30 teams who should not be worried about whether or not we win the chip in ’27. Because we know that champions do not repeat and thus we don’t have a shot in hell anyway, right? Right?
Seems arbitrary to say that no teams entering the second apron (so far) in 2026-2027 means it’s a restriction “every other team is abiding by” when 3 teams did it 2024-2025 (Suns, Celtics, and Wolves) and the Cavs did it in 2025-2026.
I happen to think if those teams could do it for a season without the apocalypse occurring, the defending champion New York Knicks probably could’ve weathered the storm as well.
“Folks” won’t admit that because it’s wrong.
For one thing, 29 other teams couldn’t even go over the second apron if they wanted to. It’s not something that’s mathematically possible for everyone.
More importantly, it only makes sense to go over the second apron to retain a player when the following conditions are present:
1) you have a team that can legitimately win a championship.
2) you have no viable replacement for the player you would lose
Those conditions were present for the Knicks, ergo they should have gone over the second apron.
Every time those conditions have been present in the apron era so far, the team’s owner went over the second apron.
Those conditions were not present for the 29 other teams, ergo they should not have gone over the second arpon.
Everyone did what made sense except us.
$130,000 is 2% of Huk’s career NBA earnings. You’d throw that guaranteed money out for the chance of making $250K if the knicks make the mid-season tournament?
Do you take the Knicks over the field in the East to make the cup finals?
Vegas has us around 10% to win the championship and split ~$770K bonus. So an expected outcome of $77K.
Philly is projected at 4.8% to win the championship.
Even if we paid him the absolute most we could pay Huk, it’d be a bad idea.
A few things of note on the Thunder’s decisions:
– they saved $300 million in luxury tax trading Dort, Wiggins, and Joe. I suspect that was their primary motivation, and I do believe 29 other NBA owners would have made that decision, too.
– they have Cason Wallace ready to move into Dort’s role. In fact, he already took it over in the playoffs. If we had a similar ready made replacement for Mitch, that would have been a compelling reason to let Mitch walk.
– they’re slated to be way over the second apron next year when SGA’s $25M raise and the extension for Cason Wallace kicks in. It didn’t make any sense for them to start the clock a year early.
Everything they’ve done this summer has been very logical.
OKC doesn’t need Dort. They have Cason Wallace, Ajay Mitchell, Jalen Williams, Alex Caruso, and Jared McCain.
Dort is expendable in a way Mitch was not.
I do think losing Dort will hurt them, though. He got played off the court against San Antonio but he was huge in their title run. But they saved $90M trading him. You expect a small market team to make that decision.
Speaking of San Antonio, I think they quietly had the best offseason in the league. Tobias Harris was a really good signing. Champagnie low key sucked for them. He’d hit every shot if you left him wide open but that was literally all he could do. Harris will help them a lot in those situations where they had to rely on Fox late in games. Plus he’s also bigger and can rebound.
But the smartest thing they did — and maybe the most impactful move anyone made this summer — was add Billy Donovan to the coaching staff. It reminds me of a move the Celtics made. In Mazzulla’s first playoffs, he was terrible. Then they brought in Jeff Van Gundy for the championship year, and he did a ton for that team (and for Mazzulla).
Mitch Johnson sucked in the finals. Having someone like Donovan will help them a lot.
I think the argument that going over the second apron for one year and keeping Mitch makes some sense, but not doing it doesn’t make Dolan a terrible owner. There are worse owners out there. Look at Portland’s new owner.
I don’t think OKC and the Knicks are remotely similar outside of both being championship contenders.
OKC had the deepest roster in NBA history last year. They literally had more good players than any team I can think of. They also have oodles of draft capital.
Setting aside my personal feelings for Mitch, it’s absolutely true that it would have been far better if we had a serviceable alternative waiting in the wings. But we can’t even sniff, I don’t know, Paul Reed.
That’s the crux of the issue.
But look, we probably trade Deuce for a backup big st some point and maybe life goes on.
The irritating thing for me is that the FO was planning to go into the second apron from what I have read and then Dolan said no. He should have told them this last year, not after winning a chip.
I don’t really care what other FOs would or would not do – as we have all discussed here in earlier years, most of them are idiots (NO, Wiz and Charlotte until recently, Phoenix, etc etc). Not quite an appeal to authority, but it certainly doesn’t move me what other teams are up to.
We should have kept Mitch and gone over. That would have given us the best chance to repeat. We did not. That was dumb. Now we are weaker, and we may not have the injury luck we had last year and it may turn out to be fatal because we don’t have enough in reserve. More to the point, we had an answer for just about any style our opponents could play. Now, not as much.
No, Mitch was not a major factor in the playoffs. His focus seemed inconsistent all year. But unless the medical team knows something we don’t know, IT WAS STUPID NO MATTER WHAT OTHER TEAMS ARE DOING.
You know it’s true, because ALL CAPS never lies.
yeah well, it’s monday…
Anyway, Mitch is gone, I’m sad about it, it was stupid, life goes on. That championship run was the best thing I’ve ever experienced with this team, and I guess it’ll have to be enough. Still got orchestra seats…just don’t have a lot of confidence the band will be playing for us come next Spring.
As great as our finals run was, I think you could argue that Mitch J was the main reason SA lost the series.
Presti basically said that they were ok going into the second apron, and de facto blamed ownership, saying it was a financial decision.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/nba/thunder/2026/07/19/sam-presti-okc-thunder-lu-dort-aaron-wiggins-isaiah-joe-nba-offseason-trades/90975474007/
folks, I made my peace with the decision when Hubert shared the total one year cost of keeping Mitch.
Spending ~$75m on Mitch of which 78% is shareholder money, – is a negligent fiduciary decision. This would make MItch #1 in player in the NBA for total cost to the team.
Just think if you own shares in a business and some nepo baby burned through all your cash for Mitch. We would all probably sue Dolan for negligence.
Now if this was someone like Steve Ballmer who is worth $140 billion that it’s ALL his money to burn then he has to bear paying it if he wants to sit in front of the camera or with his friends and family and say “the only thing he cares about is winnig”
I think it’s pretty clear that, in reality, these aprons were invented to take the fiduciary onus of winning off the billionaires (owners/shareholders) and putting it on the millionaires (players), which imo is fucking lame.
I don’t know man…think anyone living in nuevo york or worse yet – jersey, should not be allowed to use the term: “folks”…
strictly for use for those of us who’ve spent some time living below that mason dixon line…
people…they are people…just people…y’all need to stop trying to be cool like donnie and me…
sure, donnie is strictly a bi-coastal type dude, however he gets to say what he wants, cuz, we all know he has an extremely limited social filter, and most likely embarrasses his kids often in public…
unlike myself, whom is a paradigm of normality in any and all public settings…I never embarrass my kids…at least very rarely…not all the time maybe…
EP
Spending 75million on Mitch, while it may be technically true as fact is sort of a fiction. If you are in the luxury tax, it is because you signed all the players to get there before Mitch.
It’s the total cost of the last Domino. If you ever owned a business and your next employee costs you X because of compliance rules outside of buisness needs, you’ll havea different perspective. I know small buinesses owners here that make it a point to stay under 100 ermployees but could use 110-120.
I live in NYC since 1991. Get out of here with that bull shit.
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They may have fooled the union but they definitively turned the apron as a hard cap for at least 90% of the league. Adam Silver is proud of it.
It would have been more honest of they just called it a hard cap but then the analyst, media capologist and Brock Allen types around the league would all be unemployed.
It was $65M. $15 in salary plus $50M in tax.
That said, you only asked what it would cost if we had made all the moves we made and then brought back Mitch.
The front office could have reduced that number to around $20M if they had been permitted to go over the second apron.
The article Marechal posted officially dispels the notion that the Thunder were motivated by the second apron.
Another false equivalence down.
just finished up on Tales from the Loop…as good as advertised…beautifully done work…
You’re spending $50M to try and win a title, not for Mitchell Robinson specifically.
Mitch would have never signed a 1yr deal for $15m. Multi year deal adds other year 2 & 3 risks/issues. It’s a reasobale assumption that Mitch may have signed a 1year $20m deal and that was the “its only money scenario”. Once you go multi year…risk calculation changes.
our destiny lies ahead…
anyine got any more prospects for us to snatch from some other team?
Do we love Cam Skattebo because he is a fun-loving lunkhead, or do we not like him so much because he is likely to keep doing stupid things and only playing half-seasons in a predictably short career?
“anyine got any more prospects for us to snatch from some other team?”
Seems that many teams have put a lot of potential transactions on hold pending the LeBron Announcement.
“Y’all” is the best, most inclusive second-person, plural pronoun in the English-speaking world.
I love Cam Skattebo because he falls squarely in between the name you would give for skipping large flat stones across the water, and a small chewy candy that comes in many colors.
mmmmmmmm candy…
about 40 hours or so in to the fast…food is feeling way more like a want than need…
i do miss chocolate, even right after i’ve eaten it…getting ready to make some chili dogs for the boys…mmmmmmmm hot dogs…
hopefully dart and skatteboo are just young and crazy…we will see if both are still on the field next january…
Good point on Dart. I had forgotten that he could also be a little reckless with his body. Harbaugh might be able to coach it out of him; a little bit more difficult to do with Skattebo.
Someone posted a comment on the Athlectic today stating Cam ” was born with CTE”.
Well, that’s just a little mean/politically incorrect for those of us without senses of humor, maybe. shrug emoji 🙂
Thybulle to Lakers. Wonder how they have all of this newfound $$$?
Ziaire Williams to Lakers, too.
Nice, geo. How long are you fasting for? 48 hrs? 72?
Fasting used to be a fun challenge, but as I get older, it gets harder and harder do it and not feel half-dead. Supposed to be very healthy though.
I’m not sure how fasting can be healthier than eating well. Most people don’t eat that well, so fasting themselves away from the crap for a short time would be a good thing. But for those few who actually eat well as a general rule, eating less doesn’t make as much sense.
takes like 14 hours or so after eating to reset you bod…the longer you go the more the stuff in your gut goes from processing food to repairing cells…
normally I just do the intermediate fasting stuff, eating only between 12pm and 7pm…it provided me with some much needed dietary structure…
ha, my natural default setting tends towards doing not structured stuff…
this is my first extended fast past 24 hours…
I have some decent reserves hanging around on my body, so, could go for a while…
haven’t really pushed myself toward ketosis before…hopefully the signs for that state begin to appear soon…it’s supposed to feel really good, with lots of energy and clarity…
we shall 👀
total fast time will run around 65 hours…
ha, no way am i doing some intelligent form of food reintegration…
I’ll be pigging out, on something…
OAKAAK Mario Hezonja is apparently returning to the NBA.
weird science at play doogie…weird science 🤔
I liked Matisse, partly due to the name, mostly because I like defensive nutjobs. I was going to say he never really developed any other part of his game which was sad, but he shot almost 40% from three last year!
Unfortunately if he’s gone to the Lakers he’s dead to me…
May?
Knicks winning the championship was the first sign of the apocalypse, maybe this is the second… 😂
I hope he has a brother named Picasso, although that’s a lot of pressure.
You can’t forsee a possible coup from the #2 guy who must be lusting over this roster. Sort of like old Eris tossing her Golden Apple.
Letting the fox into the henhouse, something, something…..
We disagree on the value of HUK given we lost Mitch.
I’d rather have a young Huk than an old Drummond and continue trying to upgrade the backup C position via trade until the deadline. Drummond is 3rd string player at this stage when you consider his defense. Huk is the better defender.
We disagree on the “instrinsic value” of playing on a superior team that’s more likely to earn extra money via the Cup or playoffs. Intrinsic value doesn’t guarantee you will cash or how much you will earn even if you do, but it’s long term value that should be part of a lower level player’s thinking.
Given the circumstances I’d even rather have Huk over Clarkson. I don’t want to relitigate Clarkson because I like him and the players and management love him, but we don’t need him and imo his end of season play is overrated here.
Without knowing HUK’s thinking, I believe he would have taken a discount to stay in NY like Shamet and Alavardo if we aggressively wanted him to and did a few things differently.
I still think Leon either has some other plan (trade) that has not come to fruition yet or they screwed up by letting him go.
It almost certainly factored into Dolan’s decision also.
Why is it that everything has to one thing or the other these days?
Sometimes there are many factors to consider.
Is Mitch worth that amount per year in terms of playoff wins produced given his injury history and FT issues in the playoffs (including taxes)?
Is Mitch worth that many years given his age and injury history?
Is Mitch reliable enough to count on in the playoffs given possible mental health issues?
Is being over the 2nd apron so quickly worth it given the probability we will go over it later and that could impact our future picks and ability to retool inside Brunson’s window?
There were financial, Mitch specific and long term window issues to consider that reasonable people can disagree about.
leon seems to be more in favor of a proven commodity type…
no drafting, we are full of starters whom beside for jalen were established players…
honestly, i’ll be surprised if mo is actually our back up power forward to start the season…
big dice roll with the backup 4 and 5 position heading in to next season…
“Another false equivalence down.”
Actually, it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is an exact equivalency.
Presti is definitively saying that it wasn’t a basketball decision, it was a financial decision. He’s saying that the team would have been better (i.e. had a better chance to win another championship) if ownership would have been okay with going into the second apron.
In that sense, it is 100% analagous to Leon vs. Dolan.
And when the loudest voice on the “false equivalency” side admits “I do think losing Dort will hurt them, though” wtf is he even arguing about?
It’s actually possible that losing Dort is gonna hurt OKC way more than the Knicks losing Mitch. The Mitch stans among us won’t want to hear this, of course, and will insist that 1st team all defense starter Lu Dort to [insert name here] is less impactful of a dropoff than Mitch to Drummond, despite the fact that Mitch played 13.9 MPG in the playoffs and was a net negative in the finals.
Dort was a -63 against SAS. But okay.
“Dort was a -63 against SAS. But okay.”
Mitch was a -36 in 67 minutes (-0.54 per minute) vs. Dort’s -63 in 135 minutes (-0.47 per minute). But okay.
“Spending 75million on Mitch, while it may be technically true as fact is sort of a fiction. If you are in the luxury tax, it is because you signed all the players to get there before Mitch.”
No, it is a fact, plain and simple. There was a very simple choice: Keep Mitch for $65M in total financial cost (salary plus luxury tax) plus all of the penalties inherent in second apron, or lose him while having whatever you gained by letting him walk. None of the other players factored in to that decision at that time, they were already sunk costs. And once over the second apron, all of the other players signed this offseason could have been retained.
The position that Mitch should have been extended prior to the 2025-26 season is far more compelling. Then, like Dort, he could have been traded for some seconds.
Tell me, why o why do we torture ourselves in this manner day after day?!?
Oh, yes. We’re fans of the New York Knicks. It must be done.
OKC is actually in a much more dire “win now” situation that we are. The Spurs have a cost-controlled “Big 3” that are all ready to make a leap, especially Wemby, who looks like he is going to do to the WC over the next decade what LeBron did to the EC during all of his prime. If any team should have gone into the second apron this year at all hazards, it’s the Thunder. When I look at their cap sheet for 2026-27, it doesn’t look all that promising in terms of staying under the apron without running into massive uncertainty about their bench. I suppose they can use their picks to patch holes, but that is far from an exact science.
That’s the first thing you’ve gotten right all day.
The inserted name is Cason Wallace, he was the 10th pick in 2023, and there is no drop off bc he’s much better than Lu Dort.
Wallace (not Dort) made the all defense team last year. He also finished 7th in DPOY (ahead of OG Anunoby).
He is quite good.
It would be like if the Knicks let Mitch go bc they had Chet Holmgren on the bench.
Exact equivalency indeed 🤣
Think that’s enough internet for me today.
“The inserted name is Cason Wallace”
Lu Dort and Cason Wallace do not even play the same position. Dort will be replaced by distributing his minutes to multiple players. There will be situations where Dort’s 22-27 mpg are missed. You said it yourself.
Mitch will be similarly replaced. Five of those players will be Drummond, KAT, OG, Mo and Hart. There will be situations where Mitch’s 14-18 minutes are missed.
It is indeed an equivancy. Thanks for proving it!
The Thunder have exactly the same championship odds as the Spurs, meaning Vegas thinks that the slightest margin can mean the difference between being in the finals or not, let alone winning a championship. If Hubert is to be believed when he said:
So it was purely financial. In fact, they could care less about the other second apron restrictions because they have workarounds that the Knicks don’t (draft capital, etc.)
But the impact on their ability to win a championship will be felt this year. The Dort of 2 years ago is a Josh Hart kind of player. Replacing the impact or that guy is easier said than done. Similarly, we have no idea which Mitch would have shown up next year. What we do know is that we only have to replace 14 mpg come playoff time, and we have a guy who can do a lot of the stuff he did on a minimum deal to take some of those minutes.
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