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    Count me among those who are very (pleasantly?) surprised that nothing has gone down yet.

    The Kawhi situation makes me think that we look at caps and aprons with a little naïveté. Ballmer got caught, but owners, agents and front offices can set-up alternative income streams through endorsements and partnerships to make-up for cap limitations. When you get teammates to sacrifice straight salary, then the commitment speaks volumes about a team’s culture. If Ballmer’s and Kawhi’s punishment is light or nonexistent- that undermines the entire cap and apron system. A player that leaves is doing so because they are ready to move on or the owners are unwilling to make up the salary shortfall.

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    Can’t believe I watched all 10 minutes of that, Owen. And maybe need to watch it again. Such a long time coming.

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    Count me among those who are very (pleasantly?) surprised that nothing has gone down yet.

    I’m assuming the best! 🙂

    Lol Detroit is giving John Collins 50 million dollars. Not the best plan.

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    Whatever happens with Mitch, knowing that we are bringing back 8 of our top 9 is awesome! And if somehow Dolan relents and we go into the season with both Mitch and Huk in the fold, man, that would be LIT!

    Speaking of which, my daughter convinced me to get tix for tomorrow night’s concert at Jones Beach Theater….Santana and the Doobies. So what that it might be 100 degrees? I wouldn’t be surprised if at least 1 Knick is there. Might wear my Willis jersey!

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    Count me among those who are very (pleasantly?) surprised that nothing has gone down yet.

    It’s probably good news on the Mitch front, but it could also mean we are working on a deal to move other players to make space.

    Speaking of which, my daughter convinced me to get tix for tomorrow night’s concert at Jones Beach Theater….Santana and the Doobies. So what that it might be 100 degrees?

    That’s a great place to see a show. Have fun.

    I’m seeing them tonight in Saratoga Springs. Also a great place.

    Woke up this morning, walked into my office to check the news, breathed huge sigh of relief that there was no “Mitch signs with Pelicans” news.

    Tobias Harris must be gone. Not really convinced John Collins has ever been the answer to any team’s problem.

    …at least I’d guess this is a Harris replacement instead of a Duren replacement. If he does replace Duren, good for us.

    I’ve never been to jones beach for a show. I always puss out on the shlep. Looks like a great venue though, and I love the Doob-way more than The Dan.

    But the heat, my god the heat.

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    This will be my 4th time seeing Santana, starting back in April 1975 at Colgate U. Unfortunately I will have to be relatively sober this time. I have seen them twice at JBT and it rained hard both times but I still had a blast. Hopefully Carlos still has it.

    Lol Detroit is giving John Collins 50 million dollars. Not the best plan.

    I think that’s a good move for Detroit. They replaced Tobias Harris with a better player who is 5 years younger and saved $9.5M.

    Wow, Norman Powell to the Bulls? Doesn’t that suck for the Heat?

    Someone reported he was gone after the Giannis trade. I thought it was weird because his shooting/perimeter shot creation definitely fit a need for them.

    “Speaking of which, my daughter convinced me to get tix for tomorrow night’s concert at Jones Beach Theater….Santana and the Doobies. So what that it might be 100 degrees? I wouldn’t be surprised if at least 1 Knick is there. Might wear my Willis jersey!”

    Saw Santana at Jiffy Lube Live in Virginia not so very long ago. He still had it then, and probably still does.

    “Is Collins a good signing for Detroit?”

    Is Collins a good signing for *anyone*? His picture is in the dictionary next to “untapped potential.”

    Someone reported he was gone after the Giannis trade

    I assumed it was hard cap thing. They just signed Timmy to replace him.

    Powell to the Bulls is good for us. He could have really helped a team like Detroit.

    Someone reported he was gone after the Giannis trade. I thought it was weird because his shooting/perimeter shot creation definitely fit a need for them.

    They were hard capped after the Giannis trade and didn’t have enough space to realistically sign him unless they dumped more salary somehow.

    Powell to the Bulls. Good for us on a few fronts–the Heat’s depth is looking bleak, more cap space comes off the board.

    Still, seems like a binary question of whether we’re willing to go over the second apron or not when it comes to Mitch.

    I’m not the first person to make this observation but if the second apron, out of nowhere, has become an absolute no-go, Kolek and Dadiet’s salaries all of the sudden loom large such that not getting real contributions from them next season would be a massive disappointment. I mean, they could be the difference between Mitchell Robinson and Kevon Looney at this point.

    I think (80’s were a blur) I saw Santana and UB40 when they had concerts on one of the Piers on the West side…I recall it poured heavily but the show went on…dude is one of my favorite guitar players.

    ps …googled it..was 1985 …Pier 84

    It is really fun/wild to watch free agency and all these trades from the perspective of reigning champs. Most of the moves I’m like “lol, what the F are they doing? They think that’s gonna be enough to beat us?”

    It’s a fun feeling!

    I have a good feeling about Mitch. Feel like Leon is working something out right now with KAT and we’re gonna bring the big guy back.

    I also think maybe, just maybe, Lebron is going to happen.

    I know. Crazy thoughts. But I think it’s possible and I think it would be a good thing.

    wonder if marcus smart is a backup plan for fvv, or if there’s something more wrong with fvv’s health…

    the rockets massive potential seemed to crash dive last post season…

    seems like a binary question of whether we’re willing to go over the second apron or not when it comes to Mitch

    I think we’re past that. I think Mitch is trying to get the best deal for himself and the Knicks are unwilling to go over a certain number unless he gets an offer. The Lakers are probably holding this up more than anything else.

    Houston Rockets:
    “Bogdan Bogdanović agrees to a 1-year deal (multiple reports)
    Marcus Smart agrees to 2-year deal (per ESPN)”

    Very underwhelming. That’s not even our Bogey. I think ours might be done in the league.

    I’ve always wanted to see Santana Live but thinking my time to do so is running out.

    One of my favorite Santana albums is the Live album with Buddy Miles from 72. I think it’s just called “Santana and Buddy Miles Live.”

    I think those are pretty nice pickups for the Rockets who didn’t have a PG last year.

    I forget who, but some analyst described their offense last year as “throw the ball up and let Adams/Capela grab the offensive rebound”. They desperately need ballhandlers.

    Smart had a +9.9 on/off last season for LA. Sure, that might be due to being a defensive specialist on a roster of offense-only stars, but that’s a huge number.

    It looks like the tanking reforms worked because the bottom of the East is coming up and the middle is getting stronger. The East will be tougher next year in the regular season, and wins totals may be suppressed. But I see no real challengers present.

    The Celtics will always have a puncher’s chance because of the volume of threes they shoot.

    Everyone else looks like their best outcome is Knicks in 5 instead of 4.

    wtf! Sixers steal Huk!

    Good. Huk has been human excrement on a basketball court since day 1.

    Nice guy, though.

    Chicago is having a sneaky good offeseason. So is Houston. Toronto is awfully top heavy, but that’s a dangerous starting 5 they have there. I think with or without the rumored LeBron and AD moves for the Dubs, they will be healthier and much better next season. Philly is beginning to load up too. Sheesh.

    I say all that to say, come for the throne at your own risk. It feels unreal to finally be the team that other teams are loading up to shoot down

    So as of right now we have no back up center.

    hope Mitch is coming back and even if he is, we will still need a third stringer.

    Mitch and Looney?

    Good on Huk for getting more than the minimum.

    Well Mr. Dolan sir, in your infinite wisdom you were absolutely correct that Huk could replace Mitch at a fraction of the cost, but unfortunately now that that’s no longer an option I’m afraid our hands are tied and we have no choice but to bring back Mitch.

    Well Mr. Dolan sir, in your infinite wisdom you were absolutely correct that Huk could replace Mitch at a fraction of the cost, but unfortunately now that that’s no longer an option I’m afraid our hands are tied and we have no choice but to bring back Mitch.

    LOL, honestly, if this was Leon’s plan…let Huk go somewhere else so now Dolan has to go over the apron to get Mitch back…good on him.

    But even so, we’re also gonna need a third center!

    Also, plenty of offseason left, I’m aware, but as of now I am befuddled that we didn’t take one of the many cromulent seeming centers available in the draft.

    Yea we absolutely can’t lose Mitch and Huk in one offseason. Maybe Jemison can replicate what Huk was as a 3rd C- provided we go over the apron to re-sign Mitch

    OKC trades Wiggins and Joe to keep the starting 5 intact, but has surplus McCain and Topic to slide into their minutes. It’s a masterclass.

    I’ll miss Huk a bit, but I’ll REALLY miss Mitch, so please work something out, Leon!

    Also, one of my fav Santana stories is that Dean Ween stealthily recorded the solo for Transdermal Celebration on Carlos’ rig in the middle of the night that was set up for a AM spot he was doing the next day to plug a new record.

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    I will miss Huk and think the Knicks and the fans are going to miss him as well. $3.4M is obviously at the high end of his range, and if we go into the apron to sign Mitch I’m not sure we would be allowed to pay him that.

    He will likely make the Sixers better. Huk can rebound and run the floor all day, and they are best when they get out in transition with Edgecombe and Maxey. Drummond is more of a halfcourt guy like Embiid. Bona is bad. So just on the basis of possibly being a primary backup, and possibly more when Embiid predictably breaks down, it’s a good career move for Huk, let alone the extra million or so.

    If nothing else, the Sixers put us in a bind. If we don’t keep Mitch now, the backup C spot is that much worse.

    Hopefully something surprisingly good is in the works.

    I would have liked to see Huk develop more but I’m not really crying about it. Let’s see what we do

    so long huk…enjoyed having him on our team…he should get a chance at having a much larger role and court time for the sixers…

    The thing that more than makes up for losing Huk is the long-term cheap deal for Mo. It’s just unsettling that our current C depth is KAT and { }.

    The juiciest outcome would be signing both Mitch and Looney. I’ll be on Cloud 9 if that happens.

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    The juiciest outcome would be signing both Mitch and Looney. I’ll be on Cloud 9 if that happens.

    and Lebron! 🙂

    But seriously, I bet the play here is to resign Mitch and get Looney too. That actually would be a big upgrade for us.

    Hoopshype has Vucevic ranked above Mitch on their free agent list. That seems silly, but I wonder what he would cost?

    Edit: never mind, he just signed with Orlando for 3.9 mil.

    even with all the recent moves in the east – still feels like with have the best threesome (jalen, KAT, OG) in the conference…

    “Hoopshype has Vucevic ranked above Mitch on their free agent list. That seems silly, but I wonder what he would cost?”

    That’s ridiculous. The rookie minimum is too high for Vuc. There’s a reason the Celts want no part of him.

    “…and Lebron! 🙂”

    My hope is that he takes his decrepit talents to the Warriors and is in the ER with something like food poisoning on the night they play at MSG so he doesn’t even get a tribute video. Fuck that bitch.

    The top-10 on my personal “I will despise you 4eva list are the following folks:

    Isiah Thomas
    Steve Mills
    Phil Jackson
    Joel Embiid
    Paul Pierce
    Reggie Miller
    Tyrese Haliburton
    Kevin Durant
    LeBron James
    James Dolan

    Wemby is getting up there but he’s young enough to turn it around. Or maybe not.

    Jordan was just to magnificent and he beat everyone, so he almost transcends this list as a mythical figure of sorts.

    Why LeBron? I’m not arguing either for or against the hate—I just want to understand it better.

    “Good G-d, Z!!!”

    Sorry, that The Decision debacle was it for me. The way he strung Knicks fans along just to milk the drama, just to form a superteam of mercs and play for the weakest fanbase in sports. Just like Kevin Durants more candid spurning the Knicks because they “…aren’t cool any more.”. Seeing either of those guys don the blue and orange would turn my stomach.

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    Got it. I would only disagree with the gap between a vehement abhorrence for wanting him on the Knicks and actually wanting the man to experience physical pain or discomfort. LOL

    At least Phil and Isiah stayed far away from the glory of this championship.

    That’s unfortunate. I liked Huk as a 3rd string C.

    Would have been nice if we walked away from the draft with a C to put on a rookie deal.

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    Well that’s why I said something transient rather than something like I hope he blows his knee out.

    “Hoopshype has Vucevic ranked above Mitch on their free agent list. That seems silly, but I wonder what he would cost?”

    Vucevic is so bad! Glad he’s going to Orlando (and one of the Wagners is going to Brooklyn). Orlando gets worse and Brooklyn remains irrelevant. Amazing!

    I remain a Hukporti truther and am sad to see him go – I think he can be a good second string C in this league. Wish him luck with his career, though I also hope the Sixers are terrible.

    Imagine being on the Knicks bench, watching us absolutely humiliate the 76ers and thinking “I want to join that team!”

    I kid. It’s a good opportunity for Huk.

    Mitch could miss his entire next contract and still be more valuable than Vucevic

    I actually disagree completely with Z-Man (surprise!). I really like and admire LeBron.

    That said, on at least one level, Z-Man and I are the same: both of us can hold a petty grudge against someone we feel wronged the Knicks forever.

    So while I may disagree about LeBron specifically, I respect and admire the deep level of disdain.

    What’s going on with the Lakers? LeBron, Smart and Kennard all chose to leave in free agency and Hachimura is rumored to be going too. They used to be a team that players wanted to play for. Maybe it’s the new ownership, but I really have no idea. Cdiggy, any comments?

    Yeah, the Decision was douchey and I hated early career Lebron because I thought he was corny.

    But once he went back to Cleveland and won that title in 2016, I’ve gained respect for him and at this point, I think he’s fine.

    I just feel like if he did want to come here for a super cheap contract to help us repeat, he’s old enough now and the team is established to where it wouldn’t really be about him. It would more be a fun little side story and not the main narrative.

    With LeBron’s salary off the books, I suspect the Lakers will make a play for either Duren or Kessler first. Mitch would be their Plan B

    I’m sick to my stomach. Fuck James Dolan now and forever.

    How the FUCK is it possible to have this horrible of a day weeks after winning a championship?

    Huk will always be remembered by his legendary post-chip presser. Fuck them picks on repeat.

    Ewwww so about that report of Towns taking less money by Dolans radio buddy

    Yeah

    Ran one of the highest payrolls in the league for dogshit teams for years on end. Won’t do it to defend a fucking title. Is this the penalty for Isaiah Thomas not having been the guy who put it together?

    And LA is getting Kessler. I guess Silver had to deal with the LA/Boston sucking issue.

    My favorite season recap video yet. They keep coming. Didn’t think I would get emotional watching one of these at this point but that was a terrible read.

    https://x.com/KingBacca22x/status/2071349548287443212/video/1?s=46

    Here we are on July 1st and still getting emotional. I agree that was the best video Ive seen as well. How about Mike Breen on that call. Such a professional to keep his composure. “Knicks fans this is not a dream!”

    That is gross. Any team but the Celtics. Mitch, seriously????

    I like that trade for the Jazz. Don’t think Kessler moves the needle much at that price .

    I hope those assholes get an X-Man, Dominque, Maravich experience out of Mitch. I love Mitch, but that is some nonsense. Hope it’s not a Willie Naulls to the Celtics run.

    3 years at 47 million. So 15 million a year, which is exactly what he makes now.

    Honestly, I could completely understand if it was more than what he’s making now. But to not resign him for 3 years at the same price? Why?

    We just lost 2 centers. WTF are we going to do now?

    Per Shams Sharania : The Los Angeles Lakers are acquiring Walker Kessler from the Utah Jazz for unprotected first-round picks in 2031 and 2033 and first-round swaps in 2028 and 2030, sources tell ESPN. Kessler will sign a massive four-year, $130 million deal with the Lakers.

    That is expensive.

    Hukporti can be replaced by Sochn honestly – I don’t see him as at that valuable

    Mitch – yeah..

    Oh well, 2025-26 was a magical season. What an exciting and improbable Championship run that will definitely not be repeated.

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    Not surprised it was Boston. Embiid clowned them in the first round. No one needed size more than them.

    I’m happy for Mitch. He gets his bag, he gets to start, and he goes to an organization that values him. He’ll do great in Boston, and I wish him well.

    I do hope this means we’ll leak how he broke his hand now 🙂

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    My issue is why punt the draft..

    Why not just take Tarris Reed at pick 25???

    Also, I am inferring from here that Mitch is signing with the Celtics. But I can’t find any such news reports. I hope it isn’t true but suspect you all are right and I hate it.

    F* Mitch to the Celtics. Ugh.

    Now we need to think about hiring LeBron as a backup Center? I don’t see it.

    Unless Herb Williams is still available….

    Walker is pretty damn good and a great fit given how badly they need defense.

    By my hastily thrown together spreadsheet, that basically puts them at the salary cap. So they still have a bunch of money to potentially spend/moves to make.

    The NY Post just ran a story about it. It’s true. 3 years for 47 million.

    Just to be clear, I don’t hate LeBron and greatly admire his career. I’ve marveled at his greatness, just like all other all-time greats. He’s been a great ambassador for the game and is on the same side of many societal issues as I am. He’s a good family man and probably a good friend.

    My negative feelings towards him are SOLELY related to the question of whether I ever want him to enjoy a single minute of grace in a Knicks uniform, or on the Knicks bench, or in tribute to him at MSG (in that order). Same with pretty much everyone on my list of “villians.”

    Except maybe Dolan. Especially right now.

    My issue is why punt the draft..

    Why not just take Tarris Reed at pick 25???

    I really do think the Spurs traded ahead of 31 so they could take both Reed and Quaintance to fuck us over. They sure as hell don’t need more centers.

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    We are going to have to trade Deuce now for any shot at a decent center, although are there even any good enough options priced low enough for us to do that?

    With LeBron’s salary off the books, I suspect the Lakers will make a play for either Duren or Kessler first. Mitch would be their Plan B

    So curious to know what Utah does. They have a real logjam in the front court. If they match any offer sheets for Kessler. Surely they have to trade either Markennen or Jarren Jackson. Especially with Ace Baily looking good. Gonna have to pay Keonte George eventually.

    If Im L.A id go after Kessler with a real aggressive offer. Not sure why Utah doesnt Value him. He’s 7’2, strong & can shoot.

    “We don’t deserve a championship”

    Sorry EB, no one deserves a championship more than us.

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    So curious to know what Utah does. They have a real logjam in the front court. If they match any offer sheets for Kessler. Surely they have to trade either Markennen or Jarren Jackson. Especially with Ace Baily looking good. Gonna have to pay Keonte George eventually.

    Kessler got traded to the Lakers

    I take this shit personally. Seriously? Both backup bigs to division rivals?? REALLY? I would expect Hukporti to take whatever deal he can get, but not Mitch. At least not with Boston. What do we blame for this? Dolan’s mandate slowing down our process to be able to offer Mitch a competitive deal? Money and opportunities for big men kinda drying up? I feel like now WE HAVE to trade pieces we don’t wanna give up just to replace Mitch’s minutes, because I don’t like the remaining options in free agency

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    I wonder what the Leon and crew have planned. I would imagine (and hope) they have plan B, C, D, or whatever. Maybe it is a trade, and/or signing a vet like Looney.

    I think we need 2 quality centers and maybe another who can play the 4/5. Maybe there is a place for Sochan. He can eat up some regular season minutes playing center against some players. I know he can’t shoot, but he can guard a variety of players and pass and dribble some.

    I have no idea if Looney is any good anymore. But, I liked him in the past. He was sort of like old school-boxing out, being in the right spots, and making the right plays.

    Maybe they trade for Missi from New Orleans?

    Bring back Jemison?

    tought to root for anyone in a celtic jersey…..mitch is gonna test my limits…i think the only guy ever that i could root for when they wore that puke green was tiny archibald..loved that guy

    Henri Veesaar was sitting on board the entire second round and could have taken a flyer on him .

    If Im L.A id go after Kessler with a real aggressive offer. Not sure why Utah doesnt Value him. He’s 7’2, strong & can shoot.

    Kessler can shoot in the same sense that Mitch can shoot.

    So, wait……. We think the Celtics are going to give Mitch the starting nod over Queta? Sounds like a bad plan for all involved, if that *is* the plan.

    My depression just got worse: What if Mitch really *is* healthy now, and can thrive in a 30-35 minute per game starting role for the Celts without getting hurt? It’s a possibility.

    “Henri Veesaar was sitting on board the entire second round and could have taken a flyer on him.”

    Yeah, I said that about 47 times (once for each million that Mitch ended up getting) during the draft, and was probably rebuffed about 45 of those times.

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    26 the whole thing makes no sense , the team knew they weren’t going over the second apron and a cheap flyer was sitting on board.

    Here’s the thing I didn’t want to say when I wanted Mitch back…

    Part of the reason he’s been so impactful the last two years is because KAT’s been so shaky.

    But we’re only a championship team if KAT just truly evolved.

    And if KAT just truly evolved we really don’t need a $15M backup at his position.

    I really, really, really wanted Mitch back. But we are OK. KAT is the man now.

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    “Henri Veesaar was sitting on board the entire second round and could have taken a flyer on him.”

    Yeah, I said that about 47 times (once for each million that Mitch ended up getting) during the draft, and was probably rebuffed about 45 of those times.

    He was sitting on the board for a reason. The same reason Knick legends Maciej Lampe and John Wallace were.

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    Kat

    – was healthy this season . Will needs his minutes lowered I assume after a long season and needing him come playoff time

    – gets into foul trouble a lot. What happens now when that happens..

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    My depression just got worse: What if Mitch really *is* healthy now, and can thrive in a 30-35 minute per game starting role for the Celts without getting hurt? It’s a possibility

    That will probably happen. He’s 28 years old and he only had one major injury while he was here. 30-35 mins is a lot, though. He’s more of a 28-30 guy. And the Celtics will probably do a lot of Jayson Tatum at the 5, too.

    All of the reporting and evidence points in the direction of this truly being an audible by James Dolan. Between our draft night, free agency, and long-term planning leading up to this point we seemed completely unprepared for the possibility that going into the second apron for a single season was some kind of no go.

    I have a lot of confidence in the front office and won’t be surprised if we’re able to pivot in a way that keeps us in quasi contention, but what made the Rose era so compelling was the chops of the front office combined with Dolan’s tolerance for spending.

    If we’re now a small market fucking team, well, that sure does complicate things now doesn’t it?

    He was sitting on the board for a reason. The same reason Knick legends Maciej Lampe and John Wallace were.

    I guess we shall see if he is better than whoever the Knicks bring in .

    We’re only a small market team when it comes to paying into revenue sharing. Dolan’s Razor at work again.

    I wonder what the Leon and crew have planned. I would imagine (and hope) they have plan B, C, D, or whatever. Maybe it is a trade, and/or signing a vet like Looney.

    “I have these two quarters that I’m allowed to spend. Want to come join us for 50 cents?” – That’s effectively Leon’s plan.

    “I have a lot of confidence in the front office and won’t be surprised if we’re able to pivot in a way that keeps us in quasi contention, but what made the Rose era so compelling was the chops of the front office combined with Dolan’s tolerance for spending.”

    Where are all the cheap but cromulent ring-chasing centers? Are we back to…….yuck…….Ayton now?

    This feels like when we seemed completely unprepared for hiring a coach upon firing Thibodeau. They pulled Mike Brown out of their asses, and it seemed to work out famously. Can we do the same with back up centers now?

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    But hey, James Dolan got to spite the NBA! He’s really showing everybody who’s boss.

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    He’ll blow the ankle before Thanksgiving. Enjoy his 15-20 minutes a night. Once those skell Celtics fans get dark his head will really rattle.

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    This makes the draft strategy seem very odd in retrospect. We’ll see how the rest of it pans out I guess, but we probably should have selected a big.

    All of the reporting and evidence points in the direction of this truly being an audible by James Dolan. Between our draft night, free agency, and long-term planning leading up to this point we seemed completely unprepared for the possibility that going into the second apron for a single season was some kind of no go.

    You’re right.

    The radio interview seems to have cost us Mitch and being able to use 24 and 31 on the bpa.

    We’ll probably never repeat because of this and the team will decline sooner than it had to. But we’ll always have “flexibility.”

    I’m glad it’s over. Now I can go back to enjoying highlights. It was the uncertainty that was killing me. As my old therapist used to say, “it’s hell in a hallway”.

    Dolan got his title . I personally don’t think he cares what fans think.

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    So the question is will Brown go hack-a-Mitch when we play Boston?

    My guess is no

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    Call up OKC and get Jaylin Williams. Pretty sure he’s available.

    It’s FAAAAAR worse for me that he’s going to the team I hate more than any other team in professional sports.

    That said, I have been resigned to losing him since it became clear that Dolsn’s decree was not misinterpreted. It’s just that the delay gave us false hope. And to lose both him AND Huk to division rivals, while not even drafting a raw C with upside, is an especially bitter pill.

    But I certainly won’t miss the anxiety I have felt every time Mitch headed to the FT line, and the anxiety I felt going into the finals when it was revealed that his “broken pinky” was actually a “boxer’s fracture.”

    And I have to remind myself to stay true to my posts prior to the championship being sealed: If we win, I don’t care what Leon/Dolan does with the roster afterwards short of trading/losing Brunson. Nothing can tarnish that O’Brien Trophy or sully that banner that will soon be in the rafters for the rest of my kids’ lifetimes.

    And I am an optimist at heart and so maybe things work out for the best. We’ll see!

    So the question is will Brown go hack-a-Mitch when we play Boston?

    Anybody should do that. It will keep his minutes down and it’s basically a turnover on offense. Once he’s off the floor it’s back in the chuck and brick 3 point offense with no offensive rebounding.

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    You get your 1A star that changed your franchise to take a paycut and do…this?

    I’m sad to see Mitch go but this doesn’t derail our chances to repeat. Our biggest problem is at backup center. Our starter is one of the best in the league. We need 15 minutes of cromulent C play.

    I love Mitch and wish him the best. I don’t see a revenge game. I’m not scared of him as a Celtic. I don’t think he tipped the balance towards them. Kind of glad they’re tying up cap into a player who hasn’t stayed on the court and can’t shoot at all. Maybe he finally evolves now? Celtics just bet 47 large on it. But, 2nd apron or not, I’m thinking long and hard before I do that deal.

    Sorry EB, no one deserves a championship more than us.

    I’ll rephrase:

    James Dolan doesn’t deserve a championship

    You get your 1A star that changed your franchise to take a paycut and do…this?

    While at the same time you’re asking your #2 star to take a similar paycut.

    Lakers went wild in the last 30 minutes. Kessler, Mamukelashvili, Grimes, Sexton.

    Is Wemby available? He’d be fantastic in limited minutes

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    Dolan didn’t want to pay the center position a combined 73 million..

    Lakers went wild in the last 30 minutes. Kessler, Mamukelashvili, Grimes, Sexton.

    Is it crazy to say I’d rather have LeBron, Rui and the picks

    Sexton makes no sense . A guy who needs the ball and plays no defense

    Is Wemby available? He’d be fantastic in limited minutes

    You deserve a prize for this

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    The Lakers looks so good, Lebron just changed his mind. lmao

    Moving on from Lebron was so the right move I didn’t think it was possible for the Lakers to screw this up, but they exceeded my expectations.

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    Is Wemby available? He’d be fantastic in limited minutes

    Mitch is still better than Bitch

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    Calming down. Post-championship Mitch- fragile, flawed and behaviorally challenged may have grated on his teammates as time went on. We may have dodged a huge bullet.

    With the loss of Mitch every 2018 player who was drafted by their team is now gone

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    Other than getting duped into keeping Bronny, I like the Lakers off-season so far

    Safe to say this is the first bad day post-championship.

    I guess Looney and another vet center could, in net, be better than Mitch and Huk. But losing mitch to the celtics fucking hurts.

    Wow. I mean I didn’t expect to necessarily repeat but I expected us to try instead of just conceding for the sake of Dolan’s wallet.

    It always seemed like we honored players who left it all out there for us, even ones who didn’t do much winning. I sure didn’t expect us to reward our literal franchise savior, who left money on the table for the sake of our team building, with this giant Fuck You.

    Fuck You, Jalen. Owners win championships. That’s the message of this offseason. Only Dolan could have done this. What a fucking turd.

    Losing Mitch sucks, in basketball terms and emotionally……however, what may have gone under-rated is the Knicks improved medical staff, and all they did to keep Mitch healthy and ready for the playoffs. Perhaps Boston will follow the same playbook, but $15M+ a year is a lot for a player to never play back to backs and be limited to 20 mins a game, esp if that team is not an immediate championship contender – tbd until this Jaylen Brown situation gets worked out. And no, I will not be rooting for Mitch as a part of the Celtics, that’s too far!

    Leon better have quite a plan to replace TWO Cs now.

    To be honest, I would have let Mitch walk for 3 years with a player option in year 3 for 47.4M also. The under/over is probably 100 games over the 3 years and he declines along the way.

    The thing is, if I knew Mitch was walking I would have a plan B and C and I would not let Huk walk for a stinking million dollars or so.

    Post-championship Mitch- fragile, flawed and behaviorally challenged may have grated on his teammates as time went on. We may have dodged a huge bullet.

    I highly doubt it.

    If a dumb team like Sacramento or New Orleans had signed him, maybe this argument could fly.

    In all likelihood, Mitch will be a very good starter for the Celtics and we will always wish we had him.

    Our draft night looks totally incoherent now. I don’t even know where to begin. We neither maximized on cheap, high-ceiling talent nor addressed what is now an absolutely glaring need.

    Again, it all has the look of being rug pulled by the idiotic, narcissistic, nepo baby owner.

    Between his petty fights with Mamdani (which consisted of little more than Dolan lying about permits and giving the worst public speech I have ever seen) and sudden about face on spending, you almost get the impression he didn’t actually enjoy this run and is reveling in short-circuiting it. Maybe that’s too much armchair psychoanalysis and he’s just truly an idiot who can’t be talked out of a stupid idea that found its way into his thick head, I don’t know. But it’s impossible to make rational sense of any of this.

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    Not drafting a center sticks in my craw now. But I think Leon will have something up his sleeve.

    Our title has the entire league in a blender. This might be the wildest offseason ever. If we emerge from it with only a talent downgrade at backup big things could be a lot worse.

    Hubert made a great point that KAT took a clear leap during the playoffs (the Ringer NBA 100 had him jumping from #29 to #12 on the back of this postseason.) We didn’t need Mitch to produce much to win a chip because KAT was that good on defense. We can expect real first-tier big production from him going forward, with the only knock being his foul trouble. In that sense, we can replace Mitch’s production (not his true talent level ofc) with an innings-eating backup. Not an elite level minutes-restricted player like Mitch.

    The front office doesn’t likely have a Plan B because they never thought they would need a Plan B until the owner did what he did.

    What are the chances we end up having to trade Deuce to get a center?

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    The owner told them this right before the parade. They didn’t just find this out today. Begley has been taking about other options in his articles for a while now.

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    “Not drafting a center sticks in my craw now. But I think Leon will have something up his sleeve.”

    It stuck in my craw during the entire draft, especially in the second round where there were definitely cost-controlled centers available. We had the pick on anyone we wanted—we had the first pick in the second round!!!

    Our draft night looks totally incoherent now. I don’t even know where to begin. We neither maximized on cheap, high-ceiling talent nor addressed what is now an absolutely glaring need.

    Again, it all has the look of being rug pulled by the idiotic, narcissistic, nepo baby owner.

    In fairness, it also looks like every draft we’ve had since 2021.

    There’s a couple things we’ve always known about this front office: they don’t love the draft and they don’t love Mitch.

    It’s not just losing Mitch. It’s that we apparently planned to lose him while punting on the draft where we could have grabbed a replacement. Made no proactive moves to mitigate the impact.

    Now we’re left we pretty much no good options, hoping one of the few net negative bigs left will take our TPMLE or having to part eith assets just to end up with someone inferior to Mitch anyway.

    We’ll always have 2026 to remember as the year we 1) ended the title drought and 2) became the only small market team ever to play in New York.

    The owner told them this right before the parade. They didn’t just find this out today. Begley has been taking about other options in his articles for a while now.

    You can’t plan for this type of shit in two weeks. The roster is a culmination of a multi-year process. Changing key parameters halfway through your plan is just not conducive to smart decisions.

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    I love Mitch and seeing him go to Boston is a gut punch, but I think we can run it back even sans him and have a good shot at repeating. The problem is that the margin is much thinner this year than last year–though we sort of knew that given the Hali and Tatum injuries and later the OKC injuries.

    The worst thing about this whole affair isn’t necessarily what we’ll miss on the court–it’s that James Dolan is back to his meddlesome ignoramus self and it by all indications fucked our offseason planning (we certainly would’ve taken a center in the draft had we known what JD the Straight Shooter had in store for us.)

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    I’ve got two words:

    Moses.

    Brown.

    Molloy Legend! I went to see he and Cole Anthony play Christ the Kings’s Jose Alvarado and Cofi Cockburn . What game that was.

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    To be honest, I would have let Mitch walk for 3 years with a player option in year 3 for 47.4M also. The under/over is probably 100 games over the 3 years and he declines along the way.

    This doesn’t matter! We made it to the top of the fucking win curve! Marginal wins are worth infinite money! Every alternative is structurally way worse!

    FUCk

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    I think Queta still starts btw, and Mitch comes off the bench.

    I agree. Queta was an unsung hero of that team, not Jalen Brown.

    It’s gonna suck to find out Mitch can shoot the three at a decent clip…

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    Hubert, the Celtics just fucked up the Brown situation and have a Tatum that is still not quite 100%. They have bigger fish to fry. Mitch was an itchy wallet move, because why not -they have some money, so stick it to the Knicks.

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    I’m not gonna roast Leon over this draft because, well, chip. Whatever he has done there has worked out. BUT. There was a guy who very clearly fit our needs waiting right there on the board for us, a high floor player who is very likely to be a passable backup C, and who is likely to be a better option than whatever Leon fishes out of the dumpster.

    I don’t really get it.

    Ever think because Dolan is currently paying Dadiet to never play he didn’t want to draft somebody at 25..

    Maybe that’s too much armchair psychoanalysis and he’s just truly an idiot who can’t be talked out of a stupid idea that found its way into his thick head, I don’t know. But it’s impossible to make rational sense of any of this.

    Oh no yeah it sounds like his usual pattern of self-sabotage for sure.

    I submit the possibility that Leon and even Dolan did everything in their power but Monica McNutt was right all along and Mitch just wanted something more than being a backup.

    I am guessing a vet signing and a small trade. And maybe keeping Jemison.

    Also, I didn’t think of what some are saying, but yeah, maybe Mitch wanted a bigger role. We will see if it works out for him, b/c I think the Knicks tried their best to keep him healthy and available.

    I’ve got two words:

    Moses.

    Brown.

    I totally forgot about him lol. And honestly, he did show some really good flashes when he did get minutes in the league. That’s actually not bad for a backup C platoon at best, great as a 3rd C.

    The worst thing about this whole affair isn’t necessarily what we’ll miss on the court–it’s that James Dolan is back to his meddlesome ignoramus self and it by all indications fucked our offseason planning (we certainly would’ve taken a center in the draft had we known what JD the Straight Shooter had in store for us.)

    200% agree

    Everyone is assuming this is all Dolan, but don’t count me among them.

    Dolan obviously has the final word, but Mitch’s injury history has been a problem for years.

    His inability to hit FTs is a problem specific to the playoffs.

    Breaking his own hand just prior to the finals in a non basketball way should have sent the entire team and management into a tizzy of anger (and probably did).

    If he needs some mental health help, I feel bad for him. There’s other evidence of that besides his own admission and the broken hand. So he should get it. But this is not a reliable player and imo he’s highly likely to start declining during this contract.

    We aren’t talking about a starter and we aren’t even talking about a reliable backup. We are talking about a VERY good backup player when he’s playing at 100%, but that translates into about 1/3rd of the games and may not include the playoffs.

    Quite frankly, the bigger mistake was letting Huk go for a stinking million dollars and not drafting a big if you know Mitch is out because now you need a backup and 3rd string C and the 2nd and/or 3rd string has to be better than Huk or equal and cheaper.

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    we certainly would’ve taken a center in the draft had we known what JD the Straight Shooter had in store for us

    Again: we have never addressed our needs in the draft. We have always operated exactly as we just did.

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    I submit the possibility that Leon and even Dolan did everything in their power but Monica McNutt was right all along and Mitch just wanted something more than being a backup.

    For this to be true, every Knicks beat reporter would’ve had to miss a crucial element to this story. Here is what Begley said today:

    From a Knick perspective, club has a ton of appreciation & respect for Mitchell Robinson as he departs for Boston, per source familiar with matter. Robinson's exit is seen a casualty of the situation re: NYK holding team salary under 2nd apron. Robinson, a 2nd-round pick eight…— Ian Begley (@IanBegley) July 1, 2026

    One also presumes that if there actually was no second-apron ducking mandate, we would’ve simply drafted players at #24 and #31 instead of waiting for our favorite stash and/or rookie-minimum options.

    There are simply a lot of people telling us exactly what happened, one of them being Dolan himself.

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    we’ll be fine, less certain for mitch…good move financially, but boston ain’t as friendly a place as new york…

    just means some other fortunate soul is gonna get a chance at a ring and knick immortality…

    This feels like when we seemed completely unprepared for hiring a coach upon firing Thibodeau. They pulled Mike Brown out of their asses, and it seemed to work out famously. Can we do the same with back up centers now?

    yep, pretty close to exactly how this situation seemed to go…

    Fuck I just saw the news. This fucking blows and makes our draft trades super confusing. What are our options now? Looney who apparently fell off a cliff two years ago?

    Can’t wait to sign Gerschon Yabusele to the TP-MLE for the 2nd year in a row

    There is no way Dolan didn’t make a ton of money this year from them winning. What an idiot

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    From a Knick perspective, club has a ton of appreciation & respect for Mitchell Robinson as he departs for Boston, per source familiar with matter. Robinson’s exit is seen a casualty of the situation re: NYK holding team salary under 2nd apron. Robinson, a 2nd-round pick eight…— Ian Begley (@IanBegley)

    Well, that’s pretty convincing.

    Not this, though:

    One also presumes that if there actually was no second-apron ducking mandate, we would’ve simply drafted players at #24 and #31 instead of waiting for our favorite stash and/or rookie-minimum options

    Again, we’ve never done that.

    “The front office doesn’t likely have a Plan B because they never thought they would need a Plan B until the owner did what he did.”

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t Dolan’s stupid “suicidal” comment *before* the draft?

    “What are the chances we end up having to trade Deuce to get a center?”

    Yes, let’s get rid of our longest-tenured player, and then immediately also get rid of our second-longest-tenured player (Deuce). Who would it be after that? Brunson?

    I don’t even know who we’d have to be bringing in at center for me to feel OK about also losing Deuce.

    Now I’m starting to fear the next thing is Leon resigning.

    Thought about this. Very few people are that dramatic. At most he’ll quiet quit and leave when his contract is up.

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t Dolan’s stupid “suicidal” comment *before* the draft?

    Dolans comment – June 17th
    Draft – June 23rd

    Knick fans should spend next year booing Dolan every chance we get. Even when they raise banner

    Mitch is going to backup Queta in Boston either from the outset or when he inevitably picks up a knock that keeps him out for 10 games, so he’s not leaving for a bigger role. He wanted the security of maintaining his current salary.

    Leon is not quitting over a backup center. Get a hold of yourselves. That is your PTSD talking.

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    Trading down and taking Nickel seems right in line with the Knicks draft MO. Older player with good numbers who fit the coach’s system.

    Not that drafting Nickel was mutually exclusive with drafting an earlier player.

    Kayil might be a little less Knicksy, but definitely within the realm of stuff they’ve done.

    The future may well prove me wrong, wouldn’t be the first time, but I truly think everyone analyzing the wisdom of signing Mitch to this specific contract is badly missing the forest for the trees.

    There is zero indication that we analyzed the pros, cons, alternatives, etc. and concluded it wasn’t optimal to re-sign Mitch and go into the second-apron in 2026-2027 (you know, the season directly following our first title in 53 years).

    There is every indication Dolan heard somewhere that the second-apron is “basically a hard cap” or something to that effect, and is now operating accordingly.

    That means there will be no “more optimal” second-apron window and no Mitch replacement the actual basketball experts we employ thought was a better fit. We’re just going to have a worse roster moving forward, period.

    Maybe we will in fact go into the second-apron in the future, but if that happens it will almost certainly be because someone finally got this stupid idea out of Dolan’s head, and it will almost certainly be too late to assemble the best possible roster under the circumstances, which is almost certainly the roster that won the NBA championship.

    As you can see, I’m leaving open the possibility I’m wrong about all of this. I definitely didn’t think we would be able to trade Julius Randle for KAT, for example. But there are a lot of datapoints in favor of the Dolan Rug Pull theory, and it really sucks.

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    There is no way to sugarcoat that in the short term, we are likely to be worse.

    But if to keep Mitch, we had to match what Boston gave him, there’s no way to sugarcoat that there was substantial risk…even if one thinks that contract was moveable a year or two out. Teams over the second apron are at a disadvantage when forced to trade a player to avoid second apron penalties. And if he got seriously injured, the cost of moving him would be that much higher. I’m not trying to spin the move to let him walk as a positive, only saying that I’m willing to accept that there was significant risk involved in signing a backup to a 3-year deal with a player option while being virtually guaranteed to be facing the second apron in 2 more of the next 4 years.

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    Assets would need to be attached to get back under the second apron . No team would just take Mitch by himself.

    Assets would need to be attached to get back under the second apron . No team would just take Mitch by himself.

    The Celtics just did!

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    “As you can see, I’m leaving open the possibility I’m wrong about all of this.”

    I would hope so. No one was more skeptical than you about Leon’s chances of threading the needle with the hybrid method, or more wrong about it. Which is okay, we all make rash statements here! But respectfully, this sounds an awful lot like the “rudderless mess” assessment from exactly 4 years ago. I posted that thread recently and won’t bother to re-post it, but you should give it a good read, maybe it will help you think outside the box a bit.

    Do folks here truly believe that Leon & Co. really didn’t foresee the possibility of Mitch leaving as the draft was playing out? And that the FO is now saying, “Oh shit, Mitch left! If only we’d drafted a center!”

    My guess is that they saw the handwriting on the wall long before any of us did. I know that the “Dolan blindsided the FO” narrative has done a lot of heavy lifting around here but I’ve always found it to be a bit too pat so have never put much stock into it myself. I believe there is a plan in place for the backup C that has been percolating for a while behind the scenes. I’ll wait til all the dominoes fall before issuing any condemnations of the brain trust.

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    “Quite frankly, the bigger mistake was letting Huk go”

    Not even close, but it compounds the issue. There likely won’t be a dropoff between who eventually becomes #2 and Huk. And #3 is hardly the guy that will make much difference in a championship run. I liked Huk’s chances of “competing” for #2 but also felt more that he would ultimately be #2 insurance behind someone like Looney.

    Goodbye Mitch.
    Goodby Huk.

    Leon’s going to wait until rosters fill up to find the backups. Of course I’m uncomfortable.

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    I’m quite sad about Mitch leaving (and pissed that it’s the Celtics) but y’all need to take a pill.

    First, it’s not irrational to want to avoid the second apron for team-building reasons (rather than “being a cheap-ass billionaire” like so many want to assume). I’d like this team to be competitive for the rest of Brunson’s tenure (and beyond) and it’s GOING to require hard choices along the way. Paying our top 5 what we pay them makes it hard to fill out the roster, and it’s only going to get worse once JB gets extended for the max.

    Also, there’s reason to be concerned with overpaying a guy who has Mitch’s injury history and was occasionally unplayable during the playoffs (not forgetting the great work he did in limited minutes).

    This FO has found diamonds in the rough over and over again; they’re far from flawless but I do believe they will figure it out.

    Also, we just won the championship FFS. It’s all gravy.

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    Well Z-Man, why not weigh in? Do you think I’m wrong and this was actually a calculated decision from the front office? If so, why do you think literally all of the beat reporters have blown it on what amounts to a pretty god damn crucial detail?

    Because mind you, I am not saying the front office won’t find a way to salvage the situation. Matter of fact I said I had confidence they could! I am simply saying I believe what the reporters have said and what the fact pattern indicates: James Dolan very, very recently imposed a restriction that is nothing but bad for basketball purposes.

    I think you answering these questions would lead to a healthier discussion than me pulling up the Bargnani thread or some of your KAT takes in response. I guess I’m getting soft in my old age.

    Hubs,

    We’ve drafted plenty of players in the 2nd round. I get punting the first round pick bc it’s guaranteed. But there was literally no reason not to draft a center with that first pick in round 2. It’s not guaranteed. Even assuming we were going to bring back Mitch AND Huk, getting another center made sense because Huk was far from a sure thing and you could probably snag someone there who is already better than Huk.

    Honestly, this sucks. But outside of hte SA, this is a lot of money for Mitch and he’s going to start or at least play a lot more minutes for Boston. so not sure we were ready to commit to that knowing all of his warts better than anyone else.

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    Can you start a center whose FT% is in the 20s? We may be about to find out.

    FWIW, I don’t believe for a second that Dolan is doing this to screw Knicks fans. I think he wants to win more championships as much as any of us, maybe more.

    What I DO think is that he truly believes that avoiding the second apron at all costs is the best way to do it. He chose the word “suicidal” for a reason.

    Now that reason may be extremely ignorant, and he is a very ignorant man. No doubt about it. I feel confident that if Leon and Wes, and possibly Brunson or Brown, explained to Dolan that it was logical to go over the apron, he would likely have just overruled them because of that narcissistic belief in his own reasoning, just like Trump often ignores his advisors no matter what they say. Those two are cut from the same cloth.

    But I do think that this decision opens up possibilities that would not be open if we signed Mitch to this deal. We can agree to disagree on this, but no matter…it is what it is.

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    The only Center on board that was worth picking at 31 was Henri who went in the 50s. They could’ve drafted him at pick 47..

    I’m going to apologize in advance for my own salary cap/apron ignorance. Okay, now that I have that out of the way…

    Would it have been possible to have selected Tarris Reed at 24, and then also use the TP-MLE to sign Kevon Looney? I know it’s water under the bridge because that did not happen, but I’m wondering if that was a possibility given our unwillingness to act like a big market team.

    I’d like this team to be competitive for the rest of Brunson’s tenure (and beyond) and it’s GOING to require hard choices along the way.

    No doubt about that, but how many years is Brunson going to be a top guard? Keeping this team for a couple of years was a no-brainer to me. Our players are not 25 years old, they are 29-30. Their moment is now. Give them a couple chances at a repeat, then tear down the team (and maybe keep Brunson to be the mentor for a young and upcoming player). I find this absolutely befuddling.

    no reason not to draft a center

    One reason would be having someone in mind who is more NBA ready – if not better – than the choices available in the 2nd rd of this year’s draft.

    Knick fans should spend next year booing Dolan every chance we get. Even when they raise banner

    Oh, we will.

    I am going to the Celtics game when Mitch gets his ring and I will chant Fuck James Dolan until either everyone joins me or I get thrown out.

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