Years and years in the making and now it’s here and words fail. Let’s start with the facts, because I don’t need to think of them, just to record them.
The New York Knicks are champions of the NBA.
Jalen Brunson, a benchwarmer’s toddler in the locker room during the 1999 Finals run, is the Most Valuable Player of the NBA Finals.
The margin: a perfect mirror of that last Finals, a 4-1 victory over the Spurs, all four wins in games that the Knicks trailed by double digits.
We’re here. It happened. It actually happened.
It’s real.
Names leap to mind, names of those who fell short — sometimes in tragedy, sometimes in farce.
Ewing, first, the Godfather of the franchise for a generation and more of its fans. In the building last night, still looming so large that even Karl Towns disappeared inside his euphoric bear-hug when it ended. Photographed later with the L O’B and an ear-to-ear grin. Not a touch of resentment or regret on his face. Joy. Pride. Release, after much of a lifetime spent carrying the undeserved weight of dashed hopes on his impossibly broad shoulders. Finally, the thing he always wanted to be, the thing that was always denied him. Finally, a part of this.
Oakley, his consigliere, in attendance. Shamelessly banished for years, here for the end, part of the celebration. Sprewell, Houston, LJ, Marbury, Melo. Each with their own story, their own roots. Each with their own kinship with the city, the fans. Each with the particular dream — of boyhood promise or narrative redemption — that a title would have brought them, would have brought us. Each of them in evidence at some point during this run. It’s for them, and it’s for us.
Plenty more names, names used as a punchline now: recycled screenshots of starting lineups with Kyle O’Quinn in them, pictures outside the Frost Bank center of Chris Copeland jerseys, memories of Al Harrington rim-hanging technicals, Andrea Bargnani bricks. Iman Shumpert on the postgame, not the joyful kid of our memory anymore. Jeremy Lin in the studio, smiling through it, pushing down the melancholy of what might have been.
And then the names of more recent vintage. The names of players here not in body but in impact. Julius Randle: inconsistent, infuriating, at times unfocused — and ultimately good enough to get us Towns.
R.J. Barrett, saddled with the mark of the consolation prize from inception. It never looked easy, he wanted it so badly. Immanuel Quickley, a joyous surprise after a generation of promises squandered. Their talent and dedication, coupled with the organizational ruthlessness that we lacked for so long — that all champions must at some point finally embrace — ultimately gave us OG Anunoby. They own a part of this.
Do we want to spare a thought today for Alec Burks, who had his moments? For Nerlens Noel, a defensive force who couldn’t catch an entry pass even if a trillion dollar bill was taped to it? For Kemba Walker, a New Yorker to the core, who loved being a Knick but didn’t have anything left in the tank when he got here?
All three were sent to Detroit in June 2022. The haul?
Some guys you never heard of.
Some picks that never amounted to anything.
And roughly $30 million in cap space to sign Jalen Brunson.
And so we’re back to the beginning, to the facts on the ground. To a roster and a front office and a coach who will be legends in the city for the rest of their lives, and beyond. But we don’t get any of it without the journey, without the good and bad decisions, the rare nights of glory and the many nights of pain, the bad contracts and the second-round draft surprises and the coach hires who didn’t work out. All of it, it’s all part of the story, all threads in the banner. All those names, all those nights. There is connective tissue from all of them to the people standing on a podium in Texas last night, lifting a trophy on behalf of all of them. On behalf of all of us.
This franchise has rarely loved us back. It’s OK to admit that. I booed James Dolan on my TV during a trophy presentation last night, in fulfillment of a lifelong dream. The banner doesn’t have to whitewash the problems along the way, shouldn’t whitewash them. It’s all part of the story. We kept loving them anyway. You did, and I did, and everyone else reading this did, and we huddled together in spaces real and virtual when every hope seemed doomed, when all faith was delusion, when we had to pull every scrap of glory around us like a blanket against the unfeeling darkness. We’re here now. An orange sun is shining in a blue sky. We made it, and we made it together, and we can and should remember it all.
Past, present, future. I left Long Island for college in 2003, moved to Chicago in 2009 with my college girlfriend, my soulmate. Married her in 2015. Had a daughter in 2020 and another in 2023. Bought a house. Built a life.
Last night was our 11th wedding anniversary. 11, like the number emblazoned across the torso of our MVP. 11 years, the traditional gift is steel. Steel, like his resolve. Like the resolve of this team, built in his image.
(Also, we splurged on a steel firepit for our backyard. There’s more to life than the Knicks, after all.)
She was with me on the couch when it ended. She sat and watched with me all these years, on so many couches, watched us take a chance on Jared Jeffries for a SECOND time, committed her life to a man who got way too invested in Quentin Richardson and Langston Galloway, went to bed by herself some nights so that I could sit up and rant to all of you about JR Smith’s shot selection and Mike Woodson’s rotations. 11 years is big, man. We’re all nothing without love.
My dad flew in from New York, he was on the couch with us too. The person who sent me down this path, who apologized for it more than a few times. Got on a plane by himself, sensed it was going to happen in 5, told me he had to be with me if it did. Brought the memories of two titles from his adolescence, just saw a third in his 60s, saw it sitting next to his granddaughter.
My oldest daughter, she’ll be six next month. The present and the future. Wore her Brunson shirsey to day camp, to watch the game, to bed after it ended. Told me that KAT is her favorite now. Told me once that “the Knicks are like our buddies.” Watched every first half with me as it happened, watched every second half on tape the next day except for last night. Last night, we let her stay up. She asked the kind of questions, all postseason, about the rules and the history and the personalities, that made it clear that she’s really getting it. It’s clicking. She’s one of us.
What if I hadn’t had to wait this long? What if they hadn’t let me share it with her? Every fanbase gets the title it deserves; this was also the one I needed.
And each of you has your own story. As much as we all shared the journey, we also each had our own, personal and special to ourselves. I hope the culmination of yours has brought you peace and joy.
I hope that this team, that chose as individuals and a collective to become the best version of itself in front of our eyes this season, taught you what it taught me. That we are better together than we are alone. That we can find things in ourselves that we weren’t sure were there before. That when we sacrifice for something greater than ourselves, life pays us back in kind and the victories are all the sweeter for it.
So much more could be said. About the game itself, about the feeling from the outset that as badly as we were playing, the Spurs were once again failing to deliver the knockout blow. A deficit shrinking from 13, to 8, to 4. Too much time left on the clock. Brunson finally good, too good, better than good, a virtuoso meeting his biggest moment with his finest performance. A team that took every opening all season, in the end the only heuristic that mattered. I haven’t even mentioned Bridges, who hit huge shots, who did his job all season and finally won appreciation in the playoffs. There’s so much to say about KAT, who picked Brunson up a few times this postseason and needed Jalen to return the favor last night. About OG, who got us here with his game 4 performance and so many others along the road. About Mitch, who grabbed the biggest rebound of his life and had the presence of mind – not always his strong suit! – to immediately get the ball out of his hands and to a competent free throw shooter. About Josh Hart, the captain’s best friend and basketball soulmate, the mortar in every one of this team’s cracks. None of this — NONE — happens without Josh Hart.
We’re not dancing, at least not yet, without Jose Alvarado. The same belief might not be there without what Tyler Kolek gave us against these Spurs in the finals of the NBA Cup. Landry Shamet, holy shit Landry Shamet. Dammit, Shamet: I love you.
Most of life is about thinking your way to rational conclusions, plenty of people who know basketball way better than I do did just that, and that will serve them well most of the time. But this was never a team for the mind. It was a team for the heart, for the soul. You had to feel your way to the right answers with this group. And for months now, if you’ve wanted to see it, there has been plenty of evidence that as long as the 2026 New York Knicks drew breath, as long as their belief wasn’t well and truly crushed, they were going to find a way.
This sounds like magical thinking. It probably was. But, sometimes, life gives you magic. And if you’re very, very fortunate, sometimes it even lets you see it coming.
So: we wake up today a new fanbase, on some level new people. What we’ve been for all these years, we’ll never be again — at least not for another five decades. This dream, this fugue state, will fade. We’ll lose games again, we’ll mismanage the cap and fumble draft picks. Players will get hurt. You will yell at your TV again.
But even when you do: you’ll have this. The last month, the last week, last night. Today. Tomorrow.
They’re yours forever.
They’re ours.
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Knicks were the #1 offense and #1 defense in the playoffs. Net rating for the entire playoffs was 15.7.
They just broke the all time record for net rating in a single postseason.
Great stuff, Kevin!
I’m so glad Oakley got to be part of the celebration. Very cool.
Great post. I’m glad you gave credit to Leon for putting this team together. I think he’s the real unsung hero of this entire effort. Yes, Brunson gave up 100 million and he deserves the lion’s share of the credit among the players for his unselfishness. But Leon was the architect who put this team together (when no “big name stars” wanted to come here) and had the brass to realize Thibs wasn’t going to take it to the finish line. I hope more on this board give him his flowers.
Great post Kevin!
Great work, Kevin, thank you. I used to write finals recaps for an Israeli daily in the 1990s and the angle you found for this one is so original and perfect for this blog. You should definitely get a ring.
Max I want your recap too. With grades. But this is a championship game, you have to give everyone an A!
Coming back and writing these posts and reading your comments is like going to my 15 year college reunion and finding out that we all became billionaires
What a perfect encapsulation of rooting for this team, both the specific iteration and the Knicks writ large.
I am not definitively entering offseason mode, but something you touched on that I’ve been thinking about as it relates to the draft, offseason, etc. is one exceptional thing about this particular team is how much value we wrung out of every last roster spot. It’s a huge testament to Mike Brown, the front office, and of course the players themselves.
We have no fewer than 13 guys who at some point or another felt pretty essential this season. I mean, we had perfectly rational 100+ comment threads about Diawara’s contract situation and he didn’t even play in the playoffs until we had firmly beaten the brakes off someone.
It’s a far cry from the days of Chris Smith. If you, like me, would like nothing more than to run it the fuck back and give these dogs a chance to go back to back, it makes for an interesting offseason.
I really want us to just keep everyone and run it back, but at this point Leon Rose has bought so much good will for the job he’s done that I have absolute confidence and will trust anything he decides.
It’s insanely hard to keep a team together in this era of parity and punishing aprons, so he’ll have some hard decisions to make, but I feel very good about having him and his crew at the helm.
Lost in the fact that Brunson score half of our points last night is that the nova trio accounted for like 90 percent of our points
Hart ended up shooting forty percent from three this series and his shots last night were all needed. He played an unsung role in the entire series despite potentially being blamed for losing us the game if we had lost game four.
Dude snagged so many rebounds and played great defense. Mikal also came up but last night and in game two.
I mentioned some of the guys the Spurs’ D disappeared in this series but how about our defense?
Stephon Castle was 1-10 last night… his only FG being the putback dunk that was the Spurs’ final points of the series… over the last two games he had twice as many turnovers (6) as field goals (3).
De’Aron Fox was 3-15 last night, barely better than John Starks in game 7, and we might have made his contract unmovable.
We made Luke Kornet and 6MOY Keldon Johnson completely unplayable in the series.
But the most impressive thing of all is what we did to Wemby. 16-44 over the last two games. And people are saying we invented “the Wemby rules”: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HGoQd4Y4Jkw
Some appreciation for Dylan Harper, though, who had a remarkable 46 pts on 31 shots over the same span.
Exhausted but still flying high today. Great article Kevin!
I think we will probably keep Mitch at roughly his current rate, as he’s already made good money and probably wouldn’t get much more on the open market anyway.
Shamet on the other hand might get pulled away. He hasn’t earned a serious contract yet, so I wouldn’t blame him if he took a midlevel type contract from some other team. Obviously I’d love to keep him, but it just takes one other team…
This was incredible, Kevin. Truly.
Meanwhile, Alvarado is hanging out in my hood enjoying Puerto Rico day celebrations.
Just saw someone wearing a “Brunson, Egg and Cheese” t shirt and that’s the good stuff.
2026 could be the year both the Knicks and Yankees championship droughts come to an end…
I just this minute caught up with the game thread and post-game threads, took me like 2 hours! Glad that you and your wife enjoyed EEC as much as we did, it is a truly blissful getaway as DR all-inclusives go. Thanks for the shout-out!
I was so shocked to see Wemby getting a break on the bench with like 4 left last night. He’s gotta work on conditioning
I want to do some Knicks-related questions for my video mailbag this week, so two things:
1)Does anyone have any Knicks-related questions they would want to hear me answer away from this wonderful place?
2)To answer someone else’s question, what are your favorite movie or (especially) TV references to our favorite team?
First and foremost, I wholly concur with every shoutout to the Knickerblogger community, especially to Mike K, and also to Brian, and Owen, for creating this place of congregation for all of us who love this team. Many of us have gotten to know each other quite well even without ever meeting in person. And a special shoutout to our loyal posters who are many time zones away, who burned the midnight oil to celebrate and suffer with the Knicks fortunes. I have learned so much from all of you, and not just about basketball, but about myself, and about life.
Still, most of us don’t know each other very well. Some share more personal stuff than others, and some reveal their personalities more than others in their posting. But under the surface, there’s enough familiarity and life experience to know that most of us have experienced hard times in our lives that make the fortunes of the Knicks seem very small in comparison. There have definitely been times in the KB era that this blog served as an escape from other way more important things. So to all…the regulars, the lurkers, the reformed trolls, the returners…thank you for being there, especially at times when I needed you most. I am overwhelmed with joy that we get to celebrate this improbable championship run together, today, tomorrow, and forever.
LONG LIVE KB!!!
Alan: what is the TV equivalent of this magical run?
I wrote this and I’m not saying every detail is perfect, it was just straight out of my head, but they are my random thoughts I shared on my social media:
Where to even begin with these Knicks. I’m sure most people don’t know, but I’ve been a Knicks fan my entire life. Not a, kinda pay attention when they are good fan, but a watch every game even when they only win 20 games in a year fan. Believe in Frank Ntilikina kinda fan even though he is awful. A scream “Fuck Boston” in a packed bar when Amare hits a three kinda fan and then of course it was a tenth of a second after the final buzzer. I’ve watched them miss out on getting #1 picks with bad records. RJ Barrett instead of Zion Williamson. Signing Langston Galloway to an overpriced contract because he was mediocre for a season. Trading every draft pick in the world for Carmelo. Pat Riley abandoned us by fax to go to Miami and build a championship roster. Van Gundy being drug across the floor on Alonzo Morning’s leg. Watching John Starks miss 3 after 3 in game 7 against the Rockets, but also dunking over Michael Jordan in the playoffs. The Ewing fingeroll, Anthony Mason tough as nails… rest in peace. Charles Oakley… Let me tell you something, if Oak was on this team Wemby wouldn’t have knees right now. Charles Smith’s personal heartbreak under the rim missing putback after putback. This was like watching my childhood get closure. I loved those guys. I played like those guys. Chip on my shoulder. I could defend anyone, I didn’t care how big they were. I wanted the best guy on the other team. You weren’t going to score on me and I’d body you the whole way. New York State of mind, all that. I harassed my parents until they got me in the Knicks kids fanclub. I used to set up every poster, sticker, pennant, all of it for EVERY game the Ewing Knicks played during the season when they lost in game 7 against Hakeem. I had a meltdown before game 7 because I got kicked out of the living room by my brother because he wanted to hang out with his future wife… Dick. I blame that loss on him, half kidding, because I had to reset the whole thing downstairs and it screwed up the luck.
Brunson, New York’s first real Captain since Derek Jeter, I mean, what can’t you say about the guy? Underdog, under sized, great footwork, but not the fastest. He’s really just an average 3 point shooter. But clutch. More clutch than LeBron. Kobe, Michael clutch. The will to win no matter the odds. 45 last night after getting beat on game after game. At the end of the day he did the last beating.
OG. Without him the Spurs win the series 4-1. He was the most consistent Knick throughout the playoffs. I’m sure he feels vindicated after this Championship since he won a participation trophy one with Toronto. Defensive stalwart, impeccable timing, historic tip in. He’ll have a jersey hanging in the Garden after he retires and he should.
KAT. This guy pisses me off but I still love him. He refuses to not make bad fouls and his rep has really gifted him a bad whistle. But he has a big heart, and he was a big reason why they won 14 straight games. He’s the best three point shooting center of all time. That’s factual.
Josh Hart. Goofy as they come, funny. Heart on his sleeve. He’s the heart of this team. The emotional center. 6’5″ snagging 14 rebounds and dishing 10 assists on any given night. They had to win for him because of his errors in game 4. He would have never forgiven himself. “Forget about those picks!” Said about his much maligned teammate…
Mikal Bridges. He had a bad regular season. People complained, he didn’t. Then he played magnificent for over a month in the playoffs shooting like 8000% from mid range and carrying the offense when Brunson had a bad shooting night. Part of Wingstop™ with OG, taking the point of attack on defense so Captain Clutch could focus on putting the ball in the bucket.
Mitchell Robinson. I have to finish with the big guy. He is the only Knick that’s been drafted by the team that signed a second contract with them in something like 30 years. He’s the loveable big guy that does stupid stuff sometimes but it’s kinda like awww shucks. Like breaking your hand right before the NBA Finals start while you’re at home.
I really don’t care if these guys ever win again. They’re all legends forever now. They avenged so many wrongs their forefathers went through during the era of Jordan. 53 years to get here, sorry if I have to wipe a few tears.
One of my favorite little things is when BBRef updates their front page to show the team that just won the title. Made sure to grab a screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G1wUilehPNR5KcL_5HfLskNCiLvMcFEv/view?usp=drivesdk
Joey Tribbiani was one of us.
I think this is the main reason why so many people, including some people here and even myself, slept on the Knicks’ chances.
This was an ELITE defensive team. We had the #1 defensive rating in the playoffs. We had been the #2 defense in the league since January 20. It was not a good defense, it was a great defense.
I think some people out there still don’t get it even after we hoisted the LO’B. There was not a player in this rotation that did not bust his ass on defense. The Spurs were the #4 offense in the league this year. They were fully healthy. We STUFFED them.
Guys who you don’t think of as great defenders played outstanding defense for this whole run.
When Harry Met Sally – Billy Crystal missing the toy basket with the foam ball trying to give the Knicks their first championship since 1973. Woody Allen watching the Knicks on TV in Annie Hall. Burt Reynolds working at MSG in Paternity – Knicks adjacent, but not really.
My fave TV reference is definitely Fox Mulder being a Knicks fan.
Off the top of my head, my fave movie reference is Patrick Ewing playing an angel in The Exorcist III.
To add to JK47’s points, for all the talk about Brown’s offensive adjustments, what he did to the defense was even more impressive. He made KAT a great defensive center, and all but erased the idea of Brunson as a weak link through his scheme. Brunson rarely exposed them this postseason. It’s incredible stuff.
Their ORtg dropped from 119.6 in the reg season to 106.4.
The Cavs were #6, just a smidge behind SA at 119.2. Their ORtg against us was 101.3.
We were a great defensive team.
An episode of the Odd Couple where Oscar Madison (Jack Klugman) goes to the Garden for work and they show some original footage of one of Red Holzman’s team, I think it was the 1970 team but I’m not sure.
In 1985, when the Knicks won the draft lottery, my close buddy and then diehard fan (who incidentally was at the game 5 in 1970 where Willis went down), he immediately worked the phones to wrangle season tickets.
This happened shortly after the most devastating sports moment in the 12 years since the last championship—the Bernard King ACL tear. The 3 of us worshipped Bernard, and we thought he might bring us back to relevance if they could build a team around him, and lo and behold, we hit the fucking lottery! At that moment, every Knicks fan alive could smell a championship brewing, and the fact that us 3 single and callow fellows would be there in person for that ride of destiny filled me with joy.
Alas, that is where the pain and suffering as a post-70’s Knicks fan began for me. 41 years ago, almost to the day. Nothing ever turned out right. Ewing and Bernard never teamed up. Michael Jordan came along. Then Hakeem. The high water mark was being in attendance for Game 5, leaving in a screaming, drunken stupor, so close that you could taste it. Then more Michael. Then Reggie. The Ewing suspension. The Ewing achilles. And then, the Ewing era was over, with many highlights and memorable moments, but no banner, no trophy, no rings.
And then the millennium turned. Now I was married with children and no longer able to afford the tickets. The schnied since the King injury was now 15 years, and the team was not gonna get there on the shoulders of Allan Houston and Latrell Sprewell. My son became old enough to become a fan, and has been my sidekick in watching and attending games since then. He’s now 27. My two girls, 24 and 29, also became diehards.
And all my boy and my girls have known at best is the muted joy of non-contender type victories from a team that was part-snakebitten and part-#lolKnicks. One fucking bitter second round exit in 2013, a couple more recently, and the excruciating dagger of the Game 1 loss in the Indiana series before bleeding out in six.
The futility was especially hard on my son. He feels things very deeply, and I wish I had a nickel for every time he said “Dad, all i want if for one of my teams (Knicks, Mets, Jets) to win one championship.” What I knew he meant was for us to experience one together, knowing that I was getting older and that nothing in life was guaranteed.
So for us to be together for last night’s clincher, me, my. son, and my two buddies of 50 years…especially the one who didn’t pay attention to the Knicks in the early ’70s but still kept the tickets through all the terrible years…is up there with the very best moments of my life.
During the car ride home this morning, my son was in the back seat and on the radio we heard Tyler Myrray’s radio call. And when he said “Next stop, the Canyon of Heroes!” I looked in the rear view mirror and could see him sobbing with joy.
100% We’ve been a missing to bad defensive team the last several seasons and Brown turning us into a legit great defense was amazing.
You’re right @darules!
I’ll go even further and I’ll give an “A” for the whole season to everyone, it was perfect.
And like someone wrote in another thread (I think it was KBA) we’re the first team to make “the double” in a season.
Definitely a top-10 movie reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ehKyvsfe0
In watching the 4th quarter again, one thing that really stood out to me was how many of our big defensive stops had OG right in the middle of them. His impact went waaaaay beyond the box score.
The Thunder held the Spurs to a 112.7 offensive rating. So the Thunder turned them from the #4 offense in the league into the #23 offense.
We turned them into the worst offense in the NBA, worse than the Nets.
We didn’t just get a title, we also got magic.
The Miracle at MSG was beautiful beyond my wildest imagination. The 29 point comeback, and then the three iconic plays at the end: the OG block, the OG putback, the Towns deflection.
We got that iconic visual of OG soaring in to gracefully get that putback, one of the most aesthetically pleasing plays I have ever seen on a basketball court. They can never take that moment away from us.
Game 5 was amazing in its own way but Game 4 was art.
Bidiong, nice post, but I think you need to change your moniker to “Bidiong Chip.”
The person I may be happiest for? The Sartorial Splendor — Clyde. After announcing his way through decades of despondent disaster, this one’s for you, Walt.
Z-man! What fucking joy. Cheers to you and your son getting paid out by the universe.
I’m just glad that the Knicks finally got back to the Finals after their last Finals appearance against the Kings in How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days (which ended before that Finals was resolved, right?).
The Knicks defense got better and better with each quarter in most games. The Spurs might have fatigued some but the Knicks D was unreal.
Also shoutout to Mike Brown. He was like a mad scientist with little ego. He experimented. He listened to ideas from his coaches and players. He seems like just a good guy. All under immense pressure. Amazing job by the coach.
Also, Kramer v Kramer
Best part about having NBA League Pass is they have every single regular season and playoff game available to watch going back to the 2012-13 season plus a bunch of older games in their hardwood classics team sections.
So from now on I can watch any game from this magical season in an instant until presumably the day I die, the yearly fee of over 100 bucks is well worth it…
Also Nike gotta do a “Just the Tip” campaign
I just watched the postgame again — sweet. It’s all there.
In addition to buying another Knicks t-shirt or two, I really want to get a framed shot of the OG tip-in play. Any suggestions? I’m happy to frame it myself. Just not sure of the best places to legally buy pics like that (as opposed to downloading the image and printing it myself at CVS, which is bullshit).
UPDATE: Duh. I can Google it myself. The NBA store has at least one, though it’s not the angle I’d prefer.
https://store.nba.com/new-york-knicks/collectibles/og-anunoby-new-york-knicks-unsigned-fanatics-authentic-2026-nba-finals-game-4-largest-comeback-in-finals-history-tip-in-photograph/t-36253020+d-0172172314+f-3536823379+z-9-963677487?utm_medium=cse&_s=ak1944nba-pla&sku=213211775&srsltid=AfmBOopTfTxNGffvpHnXf63vV4YOIUZkeEYFVf9OgXf6jYuUFSLIqq2S83g
Aesthetic comment: Really hope they do this year’s banner in the same font and size and color scheme as the other (Knicks) banners on the iconic ceiling. No need to deviate.
If there was one sad thing in that game last night… one moment I wanted so bad… it was 90-88, Brunson under the basket, throws it out to a wide open Josh Hart for three…. would have been a legendary make.
Related: who on this year’s team gets their jersey retired besides Brunson? Mitch, for being around for so long on top of getting a ring? OG, for the franchise’s greatest play ever? KAT, for being our other All-Star? Hart, for being Hart? Jose, for the vibes?
I think we should go over the second apron and bring almost everyone back, but I also think we should try to get guys at very specific numbers that are as league-standard as possible, because any trade over the second apron has to be exact. So it won’t be about “the best deal” or saving money, it’ll be about the full mid-level and whatever numbers will buy us the most flexibility.
But right now I don’t want to think about any of that. I’m very happy to continue basking.
I think the biggest thing for me is feeling that we achieved some sort of cosmic balance. As I said a few days ago, it just seemed like every tragic moment in Knicks history had its inverse in this series, including winning in 5, losing only game 3. When we went into the fourth quarter down 10, I had no doubt at all. Nerves were fine. We would win. Fucking imagine that, with this franchise, this history.
Demons exorcised.
Right now I think Brunson is the only lock to get his number retired. KAT would be next assuming he plays a few more years with the Knicks since he’ll probably be a HOFer.
OG and Hart would have to put in a few more years too I would think but if OG can make an All-Star team and continue making All-NBA defense he’d be right there with KAT.
Of course if they all somehow win another title then all bets are off…
All the kids that are gonna grow up idolizing Brunson and not all the corny fuckers making “decisions” with fucking burner accounts making small arguments about their giant little egos. The future is bright.
Wow, we did it!!! I guess it’s real. The destination is amazing, but I’ve appreciated the journey with you all too.
Appreciate having this community to vent to in game threads, as well as learn from and throw in some thoughts of my own on off days over the years.
The team is truly a team but I’m also happy the captain got to show the whole world on the biggest stage what he can do, singlehandedly willing us to victory on a day KaT was in foul trouble and no one else could consistently put the ball in the basket. Jalen scored more in the 4th quarter than everyone on the Knicks for the entire game. In fact, only Wemby and Harper had more full game output than Brunson’s 4th.
This man is NY. Hardworking, intelligent, and a leader. Beats you not with his size or jumping ability but well honed skills, guile, and balls as big as the Hudson River! Wowowow
Re jerseys, the Knicks have such a weird approach. Half the 70s teams that won had their jerseys retired, deservedly or not, along with Red. Then… Patrick. That’s effing it.
So it could be half the team again, or just Jalen.
Lady Raven said in a year, all the babies born in NY will be named Jalen.
What a great article, Kevin. Thank you. And thanks to Mike, Brian and the gang for keeping this alive. I’ve learned so much about basketball and statistics and TV (ha) from being an everyday reader. Unfortunately I don’t have the bandwidth to post often or with the frequency required to really be in the conversation. I watched the game with my 14 year old son who is a huge fan and my wife and daughter. A perfect night on a leafy Westchester block with friends and neighbors on an outdoor screen. I grew up in Manhattan. And something inside me really wanted to be there to feel it more authentically. And I rarely want to go into the city these days. But I’m happy how it went down. What a run. What a team. What a fan base. What a time to be a Knicks fan.
I think that eventually the entire starting lineup gets retired because they ended a 53-year title drought and did so in a very team-oriented way. Obviously Brunson is a given. After that, KAT and OG seem most likely. Hart is the “Heart and Soul” and Bridges is the “Iron Man” so I could see it evntually happening.
Mitch is a maybe, but barring some future achievement, I think he’s on the outside looking in…just not enough minutes per game. Maybe if he is retained and goes on to spend a few more distinguished years here. But probably not.
I’m also assuming that this starting lineup will be together for at least another year, so there will likely be more playoff victories. That will only help their cause.
I checked to see whose jerseys the Pistons retired after their 2004 championship since that team isn’t a bad comp to us
They retired the jerseys of Billups, Hamilton and Ben Wallace but not Rasheed Wallace or Prince. Kinda surprised about Rasheed, he was pretty instrumental to their success.
Also https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZjTI0uFAFV/?igsh=bHhtaWlid3ppNW5q courtesy of Mr clarence
I managed to order one of those fancy hats they wore and I also splurged for the Mitchell and Ness Champions jacket. I’m going to wear both once and then display them for the rest of my life in my living room.
I get why Detroit didn’t retire Sheed’s jersey, as he wasn’t there for long, but Prince is really surprising to me, he was there for 10 years and the entirety of their ECF runs.
Brunson obviously gets his jersey retired, hell we could do it now and nobody would question it, give him a statue too.
In hindsight I’m glad we didn’t hang the Cup Banner. Will be cool to hang them both together next year.
The Knicks never retired Carl Braun’s #4. He was a Hall of Famer who led the Knicks to 3 straight finals appearances. Maybe this Championship can open up some more retiring opportunities.
Spurs are scary but Wemby is gonna get busted up
Next year.
Yeah, the weird thing about the number retirement stuff is that Mikal and KAT have only been here 2 years each, OG 2.5, and Hart 3.5. Brunson would have been a lock even if we had lost, but even he is only here 5 years.
But this is sort of a larger-than-life championship that broke a 53-year drought for an original franchise. The Pistons has won 2 just 14 years prior to 2004. The 2X champ Pistons retired Isiah, Laimbeer, Rodman, Dumars and Vinnie Johnson. But even with two, Aguirre and consummate Bad Boy Rick Mahorn missed the cut.
Boy, the NBA sure must be happy Jalen Brunson bailed them out of having to either suspend Wemby or give him a very obvious star pass huh?
I agree that now that we won the championship, they should hang the IST banner. Maybe have it between the retired numbers and all the divisional and championship banners. I would think a good time to hang the IST banner would be on the night of the opening IST game when they use the funky court.
Man, those Pistons retired number choices really are BAFFLING. No Prince? No Mahorn? No Aguirre? While retiring so many other dudes? So weird.
So, yeah, based on that, I guess the entire starting lineup eventually gets their number retired except MAYBE Mikal.
“Boy, the NBA sure must be happy Jalen Brunson bailed them out of having to either suspend Wemby or give him a very obvious star pass huh?”
100%. I am so relieved we aren’t spending these 3 days in agony after getting royally fucked like that. I just hope it doesn’t get swept under the rug by the media now that it is moot. It truly could have been catastophic in so many ways.
One of my favorite things about this run is that it didn’t just show that the Knicks were the best team, but that NYC is the best city.
BTW, FUCK THEM PICKS!
“So, yeah, based on that, I guess the entire starting lineup eventually gets their number retired except MAYBE Mikal.”
I don’t think you can retire Hart without Mikal. The ‘Nova trio seems all or one, and my gut tells me all.
I was 100% sure that was going in.
“One of my favorite things about this run is that it didn’t just show that the Knicks were the best team, but that NYC is the best city.”
marechal, I couldn’t agree more. I mean, what other city in the world has a Clyde?!
I haven’t really started to think about next year yet, but for starters, I want to avenge those two losses to the Pacers really fucking badly. I would love for them to do the ring ceremony with Mr. Choke Sign 1.0 and 2.0 in the house.
Opening night when the Knicks get their rings is gonna be pretty fucking awesome to watch.
I think the Rangers are probably a good guide, too. They only retired Messier, Leetch, and Richter from a team that broke a 54 year drought.
Brunson is the Messier of the team. We don’t really have a Leetch or Richter.
I would think hanging both at the same time makes more sense. Celebrate the whole season, the historic double.
Inject this Mike Breen narrated championship video in my veins:
https://x.com/rami_lavi/status/2066314312252010912/video/1
I wouldn’t water down the ceremony for the championship banner with the virtually meaningless IST banner. I don’t see anything “historic” about the IST, which has only been around for 3 years and might not be around 10 years from now. Doing it in the context of the actual IST makes a lot more sense to me.
It might be a moot point anyway, since Dolan seems to be out on the idea of an IST banner anyway, in part as a FU to Silver.
It truly amazes me that we went 16-3 overall. 14-1 after game 3 against Hawks. I keep thinking about that. That is pure dominance. The Knicks also did it with a lot of class.
I’d bet batteries not included is way better than disclosure day.
watching the spurs’ post game pressers…
ha…you can hear the fans soooooo loudly in the background…
that’s gotta hurt…ouch…
now the series is over, and most importantly: we won, no hard feelings to the spurs/wemby…
hope to see them again in the finals next season…
The most amazing thing for me is that we won 9 straight road playoff games. I don’t care who the opponents were, that is the mark of a great and deserving championship team.
“no hard feelings to the spurs/wemby…”
Yeah, right, me too. SO hoping someone makes a compilation of all the violent non-calls that didn’t go our way through the entire series. I have seen the Fox-is-a-moron video by yelling guy, fills my cold, hard little heart with joy…
what goes on out on the court is one thing, what happened from the sidelines with the new york knickerbockers’ primary play by play announcer, is something else…
hard to begrudge wemby for getting away with near anything that might help his team win…
don’t hate the player – hate the nba and their janky refs…
One thing, none of this would be nearly as sweet without all the decades of shit that we endured.
Wouldn’t trade a single moment of any of it.
“Wouldn’t trade a single moment of any of it.”
I have to be totally honest and say that I’m not sure how I feel about what we, the rank-and-file diehard Knicks fan, have had to endure on the way to this moment.
On one hand, if we were to have won a championship earlier, it would have been with a far less rootable team. I mean, I loved me some Bernard, some Ewing, some Carmelo…and I loved some of the guys we could have drafted or traded for that might have gotten us there sooner.
But on the other hand, many Knicks fans like us sadly did not make it to this glorious day. Like a poster named Dude…or the amazing older couple that sat behind us when we had season tickets during the Ewing era…or Willis Reed and Dave DeBusschere and Dick Barnett. I can imagine that a few diehards left us even up yesterday.
And for me, at least, the suffering was very real. I know it’s only sports, but there’s been a lot of painful moments and destitute seasons. All the while taking shit from those who couldn’t understand the ordeal that has been Knicks fandom the last half-century.
I guess the reality is that we can’t trade a single moment, whether we would want to or not.
So what I will say is that I have always gladly accepted the “burden” of being a diehard Knicks fan, from the time I was a little kid to this day, 60+ years later. My loyalty has never wavered, not for a second, and it never would have had they come up short this year, and all the years I have left. And knowing that nothing was promised to me or any fan, I feel fortunate to be on the other side of that long wait.
jimmy d got a front row seat at the ufc tonight…
he’s wearing the same coat…
all those tix cost were a sweep of the san antonio spurs…
oh well, not sure if he’s wearing the same pants and shirt…I bet HAL knows…
okay cs, just how much bad knick basketball did you watch, exactly…
and why, why did you watch any games featuring a poorly run entertainment organization incredibly underperforming, in numerous, too many to name, ways…
it wasn’t just bad, it was embarrassing, and often sad, livin’ that knick fan life…depending on the age of the people you met, usually mention early 70’s teams, patrick ewing, and or the dumpster fire for most of this millennium…
you know who I don’t want to get a ring: steve mills, no ring for you…
Geo I watched a shit tonne of Jason Smith, Lance Thomas, Alonzo Trier, Kevin Knox, Kevin Seraphim, Sam Dalembert and all the rest.
Hideous and dark days. Torturous in fact.
My point was only that having endured all of that has made this championship that much sweeter. And for that I’m grateful <3
And absolutely fuck Steve Mills
I forgot who first said it, but it hurt my feelin’s at the time…
made a comment about how sad things were with the roster, front office, medical staff, scouting staff, ownership, coaching, probably forgetting something…
and that and we were just all rooting for laundry…and clyde…hard truths hurt…
Orange sun in a blue sky indeed….
Great post and great thread.
My question would be about KAT. Starting about two months ago, he just seemed to morph into a different player and maybe person. His statistical impact was a little muted compared to his high water marks but he went on a run of 18 straight games with a positive differential in the playoffs, which I think was a record, and which ironically ended in the clincher. He only had four threes in five Finals games, including three games where he didn’t hit one at all. Not sure what the question is other than, what the hell happened with this guy?
And I also second the injection of Breen’s outro video into all our veins. Clyde and the verbal majesty of Breen have been the one consistent thing through the last 40 years and I honestly think Breen is the best to ever do it in basketball. Clyde, who does richly deserve this, has been the epitome of cool and somehow still sounds better to me than every Richard Jefferson they fill that seat with on the national stage.
Tyler and Monica had a great radio call too….
Also, two more bits of movie magic…
https://x.com/JustFreshKicks/status/2066209803735802125/video/1?s=46
https://x.com/IQfor3/status/2066222147454799881/video/1?s=46
Also, for those that need a hatewatch, clips of people doubting Jalen
https://x.com/fasho2k/status/2066155697830568074/video/1?s=46
I take your point that the IST is still new and hasn’t yet earned the full weight of history. But part of how something becomes meaningful is by treating it as meaningful.
I’m immensely proud that we won both. The Cup meant a lot to me at the time, and I think celebrating them together adds to the championship rather than watering it down.
The Cup is modeled on soccer, where doing the double is a massive distinction among champions. Teams that win the double are set apart from teams that win only the title. And the first team to win the double — Preston North End in 1889 — is still remembered for doing so.
It may seem less meaningful now because the tournament is new, but the double will gain significance over time. To me, the only thing that would diminish what this team accomplished is dismissing the Cup part of it as meaningless.
One addendum to the double issue:
When Sir Barton won the first Triple Crown, people weren’t even calling it the Triple Crown yet. The significance of winning all three came later. Yet they still remember him.
That’s my point about the Cup. This will become meaningful over time, even if it doesn’t carry that full weight right now. Dismissing it as meaningless by refusing to hang the banner would be disrespectful to the players who earned it. Because it certainly wasn’t meaningless to them.
I would hope Dolan doesn’t do that over some petty feud with Silver. He should be helping create the legend of this historic feat, not dismissing it.
Fuck the cup. Lemme know when it helps us win the chip and I’ll start caring who wins it.
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