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    This is the best, and certainly most enjoyable Knicks team since I became a fan at around 1990, but I will not think it’s a great season unless they get 4 more wins.

    Maybe not a GREAT success, but making the NBA Finals is certainly a successful season.

    But yes, now that they’re here, just win the fucking thing. You’re playing against a bunch of 21-year-olds that you ALREADY BEAT in a playoff-esque situation. Just fucking win this thing already.

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    Z-man’s prediction record:

    Knicks in 5 over ATL
    Knicks in 5 over PHI
    Knicks in 5 over CLE

    Wrong all 3 times!

    So what the hell, Knicks in 5 over SAS!

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    Maybe not a GREAT success, but making the NBA Finals is certainly a successful season.

    Normally it would, but not the way things turned out. Last year going into the Indiana series I thought finals or bust. This year, against a very young team, it’s championship or bust.

    Their window was last year, this year and next year, before their core players start exiting their prime. Better win it now.

    Am I so much of a homer that I don’t understand how the oddsmakers think the Spurs are such an overwhelming favorite?

    I understand the Spurs being slightly favorites, but 2:1 favorites seem a bit much.

    Formative Knicks years/things:

    Books/articles after the fact about the 1970 and 1973 championships.

    Knowing early on that I was going to be a pioneer out of home in life; realizing that MSG was in the middle of Manhattan and therefore convenient and, most importantly for that (bygone) era, non-suburban.

    Micheal Ray Richardson becoming an all-star, great assist guy, terror on defense. Loved that dude.

    The unfortunate and undoubtedly partying-induced whiff to the Bulls in the 1981 best two of three playoffs.

    The nice spring weekend in 1983 where they gave the Sixers a nice but losing run in back-to-back Sat/Sun games at MSG. Truck Robinson’s bricked free throws down the stretch.

    Bernard as top-30 all-time player between January 1, 1983 and the day in early 1985 when he blew out his knee.

    The 1984 playoff run, including taking a great Celtics team to seven in the second round and Bernard lighting up every Celtic who tried to guard him. The Friday night MSG Game 6 in that series.

    Road trip to NYC and MSG to see Michigan beat Notre Dame in the NIT final, sealing pioneer ambition and destination.

    The sky-high potential but ultimately never played together front line of Ewing, Bill Cartwright, and Bernard.

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    Am I so much of a homer that I don’t understand how the oddsmakers think the Spurs are such an overwhelming favorite?

    Weird to me too. Seems like an over-index on the regular season metrics of both teams, but as Nate Silver pointed out in the piece linked yesterday sustained playoff over performance is predictive.

    It’s not so obviously absurd I’d recommend anyone bet their rent money on the Knicks–I’d peg it as pretty much a toss up myself–but it’s the first series line I’ve seen in a while that I truly think is substantially off.

    “Their window was last year, this year and next year, before their core players start exiting their prime.”

    There are 4 players who make up the “nucleus” of this team: Brunson, KAT, OG, and Mikal. I truly believe that all have at least 3 peak years left after this one. KAT is the oldest at 30. He doesn’t rely on elite athleticism. Maybe he declines a tiny bit, but I see him aging pretty gracefully. So at the very least, the “physical” window for this core is open for the next 2-3 seasons.

    That doesn’t mean Leon should sit on his hands. I’m just disagreeing that they are exiting their prime after next year.

    The 1984 playoff run, including taking a great Celtics team to seven in the second round and Bernard lighting up every Celtic who tried to guard him. The Friday night MSG Game 6 in that series.

    I was at that game too, I believe it was the one where beforehand Cornbread Maxwell said “the bitch won’t score 40 on me” or something to that effect. Bernard said hold my beer.

    I was actually a Rangers fan during the Knicks heyday in the 70’s (because my dad was) and I gravitated over to the Knicks during the Ray Williams/Michael Ray Richardson years. Then my friends and I got season tix the day they won the lottery in 1985 and I’ve kept them ever since. And selling tix during the lean years was a challenge to say the least.

    The 90’s was a glorious time to be a Knicks fan, Knicks vs. Bulls playoff games were as intense as any sporting event you’ll ever witness. Started taking my son to games around 1999 (he was at one of the Heat playoff games and being only 6 was a little rattled by the crowd noise) and then came the dreary 2000’s.

    Since I’m getting up in years, I always worry that my son and I won’t be able to celebrate a Knicks title together, but boy is this the best chance we’ve had since he started wearing his Knicks onesie.

    Knicks in 6, going to that game and I may need throat surgery afterwards (-:

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    Sorry I’m late to the party, but It’s pretty fantastic how this Finals run has brought our board together (E waxing poetic about past Knick greats like Ebenezer Scrooge on Christmas Day? What??)

    But damnit, I want 4 more wins. I want legend status for Brunson. Redemption for KAT. Sidekick celebrations with Hart and Mikal. I can already imagine all of this.

    It’s right there for the taking. All gas no brakes. Hop in, losers, we’re going Larry O’Brien shopping!

    Odds makers will come to their senses after Knicks blow them out in game 1.

    Think the way to beat this team is to defend at a high level, get out of the fast break, force them into thinking vs reacting by running multiple actions simoultaneously and most importatnly shoot 45+ threes per game.

    Mathematically, they can not over come 15+ made threes vs an opponent with low turnovers.

    Here is their record vs teams that made 15+ threes this season.
    4 Wins, 9 Losses (.308 Win %)

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    In other words, score 120+ in 4 games with low turnovers and we start naming elementary schools after Jalen Brunson.

    I truly think that our experience and seasoned veterans should overtake their youth and mistakes relatively easily—five games, or possibly six at most, since we do not have HCA (remember when the NBA Finals used to be 2-3-2 instead of 2-2-1-1-1?). The Spurs are a very, very good team, but they’re just not ready for a championship yet. Next year, sure, but let’s win this thing now before that team takes over the league.

    The *only* thing—and I do mean the only thing—that is bothering me is the Mitch thing. I can’t see it being series-changing, but I just hate that we kept him healthy all year long just to see him get injured off the court in between the Conference Finals and the NBA Finals. It just seems so…….unnecessary.

    I think I’ve told my origin story before. It involves Marcus Camby and a stuffed penguin.

    I found basketball fascinating pretty much as soon as I could watch TV and have a basic understanding of what was going on, but my dad was way more of a baseball guy and never really cultivated my interest. He was hardly actively opposed, it just wasn’t his thing.

    So I went up the chain of command, and asked his father, who was in fact a diehard Knicks fan, to take me to a game. He very happily agreed, and we had a great time. I wish I could remember the specific game, or even the season, but I do know 1) I was very young and 2) it couldn’t have been later than 2000-2001, because I got a Marcus Camby jersey in a style the Knicks stopped using after that season. So the oldest I could’ve been was 6, but I think I was closer to 4.

    When I first got it, the jersey was a big on me, but I did eventually grow taller than ~3 feet. To this day, the jersey is in pristine condition and has been bestowed upon a stuffed penguin that very same grandfather also got me at the Central Park Zoo.

    I was pretty much hooked after that. I had a Marbury jersey and idolized that man, as it would be years before I would learn about things like asset optimization and opportunity cost. Crawford, Nate, Al Harrington, and David Lee were also among my earlier favorites.

    It wasn’t until middle school or so that it started to actually bother me that the team sucked, but the silver lining there was tickets were fairly affordable, allowing me and a close childhood friend, who is now dating Kylie Jenner and doing a lot of other cool stuff, to save up some allowance and put our faith in Danilo Gallinari from the nosebleeds very frequently.

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    Yeah, the Mitch this is really upsetting.

    I feel like, unless he’s able to play meaningful minutes and contributes to us winning it all, this could be the end of mitch as a Knick, which is unfortunate.

    He’s had his moments these playoffs but, to be honest, he hasn’t been THAT impactful, mainly because we’ve been so dominant and he hasn’t played nearly as many minutes as I thought he would going into these playoffs.

    If we win and he’s limited, Leon will think we don’t really need him. And if we lose and he’s limited, Leon might blame him for us losing.

    I don’t know. Love Mitch and would hate for him to go out this way, but this injury is really unfortunate timing and the fact that it didn’t happen on the court (and he maybe tried to hide it) makes it doubly so.

    That being said, I think we can still win even if he’s limited.

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    I like that we’ve handled San Antonio pretty well in our games this season, including the Cup game. Kind of like they handled OKC during the regular season, winning 4 of 5 games against them.

    It is clear that they have gelled since then and that their young players are developing at a very fast clip. Wemby, Castle, and Harper showed a lot of maturity in that OKC series. Champegnie is a guy who really worries me as a opportunistic sniper. They don’t really have any stiffs on D.

    But it’s also pretty clear that we have gelled as well. We are better on both ends now than we were, even in March.

    I’ll throw one more thing out there that hasn’t been mentioned much. OKC may have been the defending champs, but they are still a very young team. Chet just turned 24. JDub just turned 25. Cason is 22. McCain is 22. Jaylin is 23. Ajay is 23. Even Shai is only 27. The only two rotation players older than Shai are iHart (barely), Kenrich (fringe of rotation) and Ol’ Man Caruso. They almost succumbed to the pressure last year vs. Indiana and definitely did this year.

    Meanwhile, all 5 starters on the Knicks are at least 28 (and 29 by July 17) and the youngest player in the rotation is Deuce at 25. That has to count for something, no?

    swifty, I literally agree with every single word that you wrote (although I admit that I hadn’t previously thought this misstep would cost Mitch his Knicks-ship). I suppose that it certainly could—it’s difficult because he’s really unique in the NBA, so his other “stuff” would have to counteract that, and of course we have no idea how the front office sees it. Probably depends on the next couple of weeks, as you said.

    “He’s had his moments these playoffs but, to be honest, he hasn’t been THAT impactful, mainly because we’ve been so dominant and he hasn’t played nearly as many minutes as I thought he would going into these playoffs.”

    In a maybe counterintuitive kind of way, this actually heartens me a little bit. Although he has certainly had his moments here and there (the dunk over Embiid obviously comes to mind), he really hasn’t played much or done much—which of course leads to my conclusion that we don’t need that much from him to win this series, anyway. I guess just the Wemby thing bothers me a little bit…….but just a little bit, as we have OG to cover Wemby and KAT to cover their PFs. Mitch could have certainly helped on that behemoth, but probably not absolutely necessary. (And it would be a good test of whether or not Wemby is true to his word on “ethical basketball,” because someone playing ethical basketball would certainly not target Mitch’s injury, right?)

    It’s going to be interesting and a good series, but I 82.4 percent believe that we got this.

    Yeah Champagnie worries me as much as any player not named Wembanyama. He’s been automatic from three the whole playoffs. No one in those first 3 rounds really killed us from downtown (Sam Merrill completely lost his shooting touch)

    That being said, no one else on the Spurs is much of a sharpshooter from downtown, so IMO the goal is to limit Champagnie’s open shots and let the chips fall where they may with the other guys

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    San Antonio scares me a lot because I feel they’re just improving and adjusting at such a fast rate that a long series works in their favor, but on the other hand we should be way more rested and prepared physically to handle it, so I don’t know what to think of this.

    My biggest wish is that they come out in game 1 still emotional about the OKC series win and we surprise them and steal a game. If we split the games in San Antonio I’ll be very confident heading into MSG for game 3.

    I think in Game 1 Jalen (and to a lesser degree possibly, Mike Brown—but for sure a collective effort) survey what is going on and figure out what roles he needs to play and not play against this team. Then he implements what he/they learned to Game 2, and we take that game to put them on their heels.

    Mitch is very endearing in many ways, but I’ve lost a lot of faith in him for a bunch of reasons, mostly the grotesque FT woes.

    Even before this mess of a development I was ambivalent about bringing him back. I get that he’s the longest tenured Knick, that it would be hard to replace him, especially given our cap situation, etc. But this is a culmination of why I never wanted the Knicks to be in a position of depending on him. Just the skill limitations, legit injuries and FT woes were enough to make me feel that way. But we really should not have to be thinking about this right now, at this once in the last 27 years moment.

    Let’s hope he can still make a positive difference out there in these most important games of this young millenium. If he’s a part of winning this series, all is forgiven. If not…

    My Knicks origin story is two-fold:

    1) NBA basketball, believe it or not, was the first sport I ever got into at the age of 10. Before that I was just practicing judo very unwillingly and doing uncoordinated sports activity in school. A disaster. During the summer of ’94, a few days before the soccer World Cup began (and stole the other half of my sports heart), my grandpa gifted me a couple of Upper Deck cards packs. I instantly loved them and in a few days (I was a very spoiled only grandchild) I had like 200 different cards and started absorbing a lot of NBA lore. At that time Italy was lagging behind so the cards were from 1992-93, aka Bulls-Suns Finals, and not the Knicks-Rockets series. I’ve always had a thing for underdogs, so I started following the NBA rooting madly for anybody who could dethrone the status quo or the heavy favorite. That brought me root for, in order: Magic (swept – they were probably the heavy favorite in that series, but the Rockets just ousted my at that time beloved Suns, so…), Sonics, Jazz and Jazz. Then 1999 came around. I didn’t pay that much attention to the actual Knicks run apart from reading a few things on magazines, but then the Finals came around and they were broadcast. An 8-seed making the Finals, without its starting superstar center, against a boring and heavily favorite team? During weeks when I was lovestruck and the whole universe looked like my oyster? You know what follows.

    2) I kinda lost track of the Knicks during some of the darkest Isiah years (I started veering a bit towards the Suns thanks to Mike D’Antoni and the Spurs thanks to my favorite player ever, Manu – who played for my hometown team and also signed me an autograph back in the days), but then… we drafted Gallo. And he was awesome. Sorry Melo, but fuck Melo. I wanted Gallo. I never forgave Donnie Walsh (not the Pacers fan-merc who’s still toiling around here – joking Donnie, I love your takes). I married the Knicks forever since the Knicks-Nuggets game where Gallo, still ours, went toe to toe with Melo, still theirs.

    (Of course Melo has been the vastly better player. But don’t fuck with my toys!)

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    I still think the Knicks have a significant shooting advantage over the Spurs (and will be much more lethal than OKC could be). Out of their 8 main rotation players, they have one non-shooter (Mitch) and one reluctant good shooter (Hart). After Champagnie and Vassell, their shooting declines quickly. OKC was easier to guard because of that, and for whatever reason they kept running a lot of poor shooting lineups (Dort and I-Hart starting, Chet completely reluctant to shoot).

    My single biggest worry about the Spurs is their defense. They have a bunch of guys in the 6’3″ to 6’7″ range who are rangy, tough, athletic, and tireless, and who can take risks because they have Wemby behind them. They have all kinds of players to switch on to Brunson, and so long as Wemby is lurking in drop, especially when the 3’s aren’t falling, it may get hard to score efficiently. Even Kornet is a good drop defender. And we are definitely gonna need Josh Hart’s size out there for defense and rebounding, so he is going to have to hit enough 3’s to keep Wemby from dropping off of him, even more so than vs. CLE.

    Love the hype videos….

    https://x.com/TommyBeer/status/2061248808537694416/video/1?s=46

    My Dad is an OG Knicks fan, back to the 69 team. Used to go to games with Bill Goldman.

    I was obsessed with ball my whole life, I had a bomb squad poster up in my bedroom for way too long, but it was the arrival of WFAN that really turned my fandom up to 11.

    I can remember listening to West Coast games on my clock radio under the pillow at night long past my bedtime. Me and Clyde go way back.

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    Z-Man’s (correct) takes are a bit worrisome and optimism-sapping. It’s probably right that the Spurs are slightly favored.

    I think the “are they ready yet?” thing, while understandable, is overplayed.

    I’m putting my hopes and wishes much less in the age thing than in their lack of shooting and sloppiness with the ball, plus OG and KAT making this a more complicated matchup for Wemby on both ends.

    Knicks in 5. Perfect karmic revenge for Knicks losing in 5 in 1999. The universe seeks and finds patterns in this way.

    Obviously the March 1 game is the most instructive. The Spurs had just won 11 in a row, and after losing to us, went on to go 19-3 in their remaining games, with all three losses against the Nuggets. So they were both in the midst of a tremendous 29-4 season-ending run, and had the bad taste of the Cup loss still in their mouths. And yet, we handled them fairly easily, outscoring them in all 4 quarters and winning going away. So while they may have improved, we clearly are not overmatched against them.

    On that note, if I had to compare this “improved” Knicks team to any team in the league, it would be the Denver Nuggets. KAT and Brunson are at least soemwhat similar to Jokic and Murray, and I think our supporting cast beyond those two is better than theirs. While two of Denver’s 3 wins vs. the Spurs can be discounted, the April 4 loss in OT was telling. Wemby had a magnificent game…34/18/7 with 5 blocks, and other guys played well, it wasn’t enough to overcome the Nuggets, who got a great game from Jokic, but didn’t do anything special except shoot 41% from 3.

    This series seems hard to handicap because both NYK and SAS are novel opponents for each other. The Knicks are a very polished offense, can play legit five out and have the dual attack center of gravity with Brunson and KAT able to act as initiators. The Spurs bring length and defensive energy that the Knicks haven’t seen yet.

    The Spurs are rightfully favored. Not an easy final boss.

    Seems like an over-index on the regular season metrics of both teams, but as Nate Silver pointed out in the piece linked yesterday sustained playoff over performance is predictive.

    Recent games vs. longer term was always a signficant complication for me as a gambler. My experience was that you needed around 20 games or more for a sample to be somewhat significant, but trades, injuries, young player development and mid season adjustments can make certain games less relevant.

    I’d be willing to focus on the Spurs from the 2nd half on including the playoffs.

    The Knicks are more complex. They made some defensive changes during the season that I think are probably sustainable. But some of the changes to the offense have been more recent, teams will tend to adjust back eventually, some of it might be matchup specific and some of it might just be unsustainable shooting (Mikal, OG and Shamet)

    I’m less convinced the Knicks will sustain their recent much higher offensive efficiency against a much better defensive team.

    I don’t know what the right odds are.

    I have San Antonio to win it all at 45.28 – 1 from the start of the season. I bet the Knicks last night. So either way I cash and I don’t have to have any internal emotional conflict about making a score on SA vs the Knicks winning. Beyond that I am clueless.

    My single biggest worry about the Spurs is their defense. They have a bunch of guys in the 6’3″ to 6’7″ range who are rangy, tough, athletic, and tireless, and who can take risks because they have Wemby behind them.

    Spot on. 100% my concern too.

    Their youthful legs, switchability and Wemby backup will easily enable them to guard and harrass Brunson 94 feet on every possesion. Straight out of the Indiana Pacers playobook. That’s the problem with Deuce, Shamet & Clarkson back court. Alvarado is too small to play with Brunson against Spurs backcourt offensive skill and length.

    This the Knicks achillies heal and the only major release valve Leon never addressed.

    The one hole in the Spurs defense is that they really don’t have a true PF-type to bang with OG. He may wind up being the decisive advantage in this series, so long as he doesn’t get stupid and put his head down to challenge Wemby at the rim. OG’s biggest bugaboo is driving into traffic and either getting stripped, or forced into a bad (or blocked) shot, or turning it over while clumsily falling down. He has to stay in his lane…power drives when he has a clear advantage and there isn’t a rim protector (in this case, an historically great one) waiting for him. A lot of that will depend on Brunson and KAT getting him the ball where he can do damage, as well as Bridges and Hart.

    Just scored 2 tickets for game 1 in San Antonio. Going with my son. I never thought in my wildest dreams. I would be attending a Knicks NBA finals game in my lifetime. I’ve been to every round of the playoffs that they’ve been in since 2001. When I actually had some money as an adult. Lots of lean years with no playoff appearances. One of my buddies is still trying to score game 6 tickets for us. If the series goes six games. At the garden. which is the holy Grail. Attending this game one is gonna be special for me as a lifelong fan. My first playoff game was in 1993 in the first round against the Pacers. My first game was in 1985. It’s been a long time coming.

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    Are the Spurs gonna put Wemby on KAT? Doesn’t that draw Wemby away from the basket and negate his rim protection?

    My guess is they put Vassell or Castle on him and let Wemby freelance on Hart

    llcoolbp, that is freakin’ awesome!!!! I was just thinking about asking whether any KBers would be at the game, and now I know there will be at least 1! I wonder how many Knicks fans will be infiltrating enemy territory, we’ve been kinda spoiled by the first 3 rounds!

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    Pretty interesting that the only 2 teams that the Spurs lost to the entire post-ASB regular season were us and Denver — perhaps not coincidentally KAT and Jokic are by far the best stretch 5s in the league (it is actually crazy how few true stretch 5’s there are).

    San Antonio had a ~110 DRtg for the season
    124 against us
    129.2 against Denver

    I feel slightly confident…

    except for the Mitch factor. Sounding like he has a boxer’s fracture which mean he did something dumb a la Amare in 2012 and punched something – which probably explains why Mike Brown seemed so frustrated. Boxer’s fractures usually occur near the knuckle – I have no idea what kind of splint he could wear that would allow him to comfortably catch lobs or handle the ball at all on DHOs. But have to imagine they’re trying every splint permutation that exists and maybe some that don’t yet exist.

    Their youthful legs, switchability and Wemby backup will easily enable them to guard and harrass Brunson 94 feet on every possesion. Straight out of the Indiana Pacers playobook. That’s the problem with Deuce, Shamet & Clarkson back court. Alvarado is too small to play with Brunson against Spurs backcourt offensive skill and length.

    They’re going to have Hart bring the ball up a lot I would imagine — if they want to harass him with Harper/Fox/Castle then that means Wemby won’t be guarding him.

    Pretty interesting that the only 2 teams that the Spurs lost to the entire post-ASB regular season were us and Denver — perhaps not coincidentally KAT and Jokic are by far the best stretch 5s in the league (it is actually crazy how few true stretch 5’s there are).

    Only problem is that Wemby will guard Josh Hart and force him to shoot contested threes over his outstreched arms.

    Spurs will give him the Caruso treatment and funnell FGA to Josh and away from others. Same as with SGA. Wemby will clog the middle and force Josh to shoot between 10+ 3FGA.

    By the end of the series, Mike Brown will end up starting Landry Shamet.

    The Spurs bring length and defensive energy that the Knicks haven’t seen yet.

    The Spurs are a great team, but Detroit’s midseason defense was at least as good IMO. Orlando without Paolo is also strong.

    There is no shotblocker as good as Wemby, but we have experienced long, athletic defenders before. Also, transition points are a must, since it will be a lot harder for them to guard our guys streaking to the basket after steals.

    Only problem is that Wemby will guard Josh Hart and force him to shoot contested threes over his outstreched arms.

    Spurs will give him the Caruso treatment and funnell FGA to Josh and away from others. Same as with SGA. Wemby will clog the middle and force Josh to shoot between 10+ 3FGA.

    By the end of the series, Mike Brown will end up starting Landry Shamet.

    Might be true – but we’ve already played 3 games against this team and averaged 124 points/100 possessions (fyi the #1 offense in the league had a 122 ORtg).

    March 1 – Hart played 30 minutes – net zero

    Dec 31 – no Hart (injured?) – started Diawara and Clarkson got most of what were probably Hart’s minutes

    NBA Cup final – Hart played 29 minutes, hit 1/3 from 3, was a +3 (granted Wemby only played 25 minutes due to coming back from injury)

    my sense is that they’ll definitely do this to Josh — but Josh being in the game means less Brunson bringing the ball up – so less concern about the Indiana situation you mentioned.

    I do think we will see a fair amount of 5-out.
    Wemby is amazing but we do also have a lot of different ways to win.

    The Spurs’ guards are big, but they lack big wings. OG will be guarded by a much smaller guy, and our the double big lineup (assuming Mitch is healthy) could also see some succcess.

    OKC can be big, but it’s telling that Caruso was their best Wemby defender. OKC without JDub and with Chet playing the way he was playing is a different animal.

    Regarding the odds, note that the Spurs are favored, but the Knicks at +1.5 games are favored, while if they were playing the Thunder, the Thunder were favored at -1.5 games (in other words, even the gamblers note that the Spurs are a more favorable matchup for the Knicks).

    I mean, it’s very simple. How do you beat the Spurs? Hit threes and take advantage of their youthful and sloppy play and abuse them on turnovers.

    That’s 100% the game plan for ANY team against the Spurs, and, well, guess what the Knicks are really good at? Hitting threes and abusing teams who turn the ball over.

    This SHOULD be a Knicks series win.

    The X-Factor is Dylan Harper 100%. You can’t really gameplan for a young player making “the Leap” in the middle of a postseason run, and that sure seems to be what Harper is doing. Dude’s becoming a star in front of our eyes, and he very much was NOT that in their last win against the Spurs.

    But even THERE, while yes, Harper becoming a star is hard to gameplan, so, too, is KAT going from being a good player to becoming a fucking SUPERSTAR.

    I mean, it’s very simple. How do you beat the Spurs? Hit threes and take advantage of their youthful and sloppy play and abuse them on turnovers.

    I think that the Knicks win this series on the back of their defense more than their offense. I think they can really make the Spurs’ life difficult because of their lack of shooting. I think they are well positioned to stop Castle/Harper in a similar way that they stopped Maxey, and let Wemby beat you with jumpers rather than rolling to the rim.

    Hold up are we just gonna gloss over the fact that apparently TNFH was childhood friends with Timothee Chalamet??

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    Harper is an unbelivable talent. Kid is a baller with perfect height for a shooting guard and a 6’10” wingspan. Offensively, he’s already better than Castle.

    There are 4 players who make up the “nucleus” of this team: Brunson, KAT, OG, and Mikal. I truly believe that all have at least 3 peak years left after this one. KAT is the oldest at 30. He doesn’t rely on elite athleticism. Maybe he declines a tiny bit, but I see him aging pretty gracefully. So at the very least, the “physical” window for this core is open for the next 2-3 seasons.

    Hart is 31, Brunson and Bridges will be 30 in late August, and OG 29 next month. By the time the 27-28 season starts all of them will be 30+.

    You could get lucky and all or most of them will stay in their peak prime, but I think some decline will start showing. And unless there are trades, they will be on expensive contracts.

    Win it this year. You’re in the finals against a very young team. There may not be another chance.

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    Hold up are we just gonna gloss over the fact that apparently TNFH was childhood friends with Timothee Chalamet??

    Dude you read my freaking mind! Can’t believe I had to scroll this far to see this LOL

    Keldon Johnson off the bench scares the bejeezus out of me. We tend to have these ancillary role players with irrational confidence give us fits (Aaron Nesmith comes to mind) and this dude is primed for just that. Champagnie is cut from the same cloth.

    All’s I know is that I am going to be a wreck these next 2 weeks.

    Hold up are we just gonna gloss over the fact that apparently TNFH was childhood friends with Timothee Chalamet??

    Thought I’ve mentioned it here before! We were very close as kids, and now talk briefly roughly once a year when the Knicks are making a deep playoff run.

    In any event, do not let anyone ever tell you the man is not a dyed in the wool fan. I have heard, with my own two ears, him evaluate the play of Cheikh Samb.

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    I’m hyped to see Jalen Brunson in a finals again. This guy fucking wins and he’s playing for the good guys. If KAT is who he’s been for three series in a row we’re winning this in 6

    I saw someone hate on Chalamet recently for being a fake fan because they’ve only seen pictures of him courtside the last few years when we’re good.

    Like dude, he’s a young man. He wasn’t rich and famous Timothy Chalamet until like 5 years ago. He was at the games when we sucked. He just wasn’t sitting courtside.

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    He was at the games when we sucked. He just wasn’t sitting courtside.

    +1

    “One of us. One of us. One of us.”

    now talk briefly roughly once a year

    Please tell him some of us are aching for his HAMLET before he gets too old.

    Formative memories? Lets go:

    Memorial Day 93? Very hazy memory of that one, but I think maybe even watching them lose to the Bulls in 91 or 92.

    By 94 I was all in. I vividly remember listing to the Reggie game on the radio at a street fair in Tuckahoe and just being absolutely stunned. Of I course I remember the OJ game too. But for some reason I didn’t stay up for game 5 on the finals. I think I knew the inevitable by then. I did wake up early and watched CNN/SI to read the ticker that Houston had won.

    99 for the three point play we were at an Teen Night dance club thing in Elmsford. I I like to think Spida was there. And in the middle of all the girls dancing in miniskirts on the bar all the dudes were glued the game and went nuts watching it unfold.

    07-16, when the old man split town my mom and I would go every christmas until she passed away.

    ’23 I got engaged at MSG when they blew out the Blazers.

    ’26 my 91 All Star Ewing jersey just arrived in the mail.

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    they lack big wings.

    ha, made me go check their roster by height 🙂

    was surprised to see carter bryant was only 6’6″, he’s looks pretty full grown despite the baby face…

    okay then, so yes – mister anunoby (who once was a small forward, no need no more for that) should have a physical advantage over – almost everyone else on the court…

    and, now that mikal has suddenly emerged from the hawks series a robust six foot eight inches and rocking a mean, lean 225 pounds – he too shall be ready to scrap with the spurs…

    thinking of it, both jalen and josh give as good as they get out on the court, neither shy away from contact, shamet and deuce are pros and not too worried with contact, generally mitch gives damage not receives…jose plays low key dirty, whatever, i just love soooooo much he sort of looks like us all…

    gonna be interesting to see who catches whom first in the head, with one of their wild all elbow arms, KAT or wemby…

    can’t wait to see the spurs come out on fire in game one, and hopefully get chased down by captain clutch and his get fresh crew…

    don’t see them quitting like the hawks, philly or cavs…butt, didn’t really expect them to quit either…

    seems like the new york knickerbockers have the bit between their teeth at the moment, also seems like they have a better, more experienced roster, that have also played together longer…

    wish someone would remind harper and carter they’re freaking rookies…remind castle and wemby this championship stuff is a process – playoff first timer teams are not welcome…

    Chalamet is also a Booker T. Washington middle school alum, as is my son something like six years later. According to said son, TC was seen on the UWS quite frequently BITD and (maybe) somewhat known (?) amongst the younger kids. Probably, but not entirely sure on the latter.

    Said son’s first game was the “Amare in a big gauze bandage because he punched the fire hydrant cover,” i.e., Game 4 of the 2012 Knicks/Heat ECSF. Screamed himself hoarse at age 7 with the old school “DEE-fense” chant. Knicks won a thriller. Baron Davis was not so lucky; in the third quarter, his knee went ineluctably into a position nature most definitely did not intend (*). Pretty sure it was his last association game.

    (*) Shown to an audible gasp on the big scoreboard screen while I was getting another beer.

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    Champagnie at 57% from three — that’s what scares me.

    It’d be nice if Clarkson goes off at a 47% clip from there again…

    Could be forgetting people, but I’d put TC at #2 on the all-time Knick fan celebrities, behind Woody Allen. Maybe 3 behind Woody and Spike Lee, depending on the weight between directing and acting. He’s definitely got a chance to get to the top spot and is clearly #1 of this modern era.

    Oh come on, he HAS to be below Spike Lee.

    But yes, he’s definitely already passed Ben Stiller among modern fans.

    He wasn’t rich and famous Timothy Chalamet until like 5 years ago.

    Without getting into “rich,” more like nine it looks like. My son (his reporting) had the same film and Latin teacher in middle school that TC had years before, and the film teacher mentioned him (TC) in 2017-18 class as someone who was an alum.

    Son apparently was friends with a girl in fourth grade whose older brother was good friends with TC.(*) Supposedly, although this is 80-ish percent certain, TC was known back then amongst this group of people who knew or knew of him as a St. Etienne soccer club fan (**) — not surprising because the first thing a lot of that generation of NYC kids know about other NYC kids is what soccer club they support. (As another aside, and I believe this one entirely, few if any (pretty much none) of the NYC kids of that generation support the US Men’s National soccer team, but instead other national teams.)

    (*) As a complete aside, the girl had a peanut allergy and at a bar mitzvah both she and my son attended had a bad reaction to some or another peanut-containing product.

    (**) Not sure how well known this is, or even if it’s known at all. I’d bet a lot of money on its dependability, though.

    i got annoyed that i couldn’t find an easy way to search the lineup results of all 3 nyk-sas games this year, thanks to the silver cup being the dark energy of the nba

    It’s BONKERS how they they treat that fucking game, stat-wise.

    waiting impatiently for another distant game 1, i got annoyed that i couldn’t find an easy way to search the lineup results of all 3 nyk-sas games this year, thanks to the silver cup being the dark energy of the nba. so here it is:

    https://www.entropyisrude.com/sas-nyk-finals.html

    Lol, the Knicks were 8.8 points better with Wemby on the floor? Sign me up for that.

    Edit: Mitch being +25 makes me all kinds of sad given his injury.

    Edit2: But Hukporti was +51. Sample sizes in blowouts be damned!

    Is Sochan a +40 for the Knicks because he was with the Spurs for some of those matchups? Hmmm.

    Going back to the who guards who discussion, if Wemby guards Hart (which seems to be the consensus), then Hart hitting open shots will be one of the keys to the series. If he starts out shooting bricks, Wemby will sag off him and then the paint closes up pretty quickly for Brunson et al.

    The benefit for us is that with a smaller player like Vassell or Castle guarding KAT he’s going to have a much easier time seeing over the defense when he’s the primary distributor from the top of the key. One of the things the Cavs took away was KAT constantly hitting cutters, as he had a hard time seeing over Allen

    The benefit for us is that with a smaller player like Vassell or Castle guarding KAT he’s going to have a much easier time seeing over the defense when he’s the primary distributor from the top of the key. One of the things the Cavs took away was KAT constantly hitting cutters, as he had a hard time seeing over Allen

    I think the problem isn’t so much that he couldn’t see over Mobley (or Allen), but that there was another big in the paint that would contest cutters. The same likely applies to the Spurs.

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    TNFH the real question is have you met Kylie Jenner yet? I’m much older so I’d prefer to meet Kourtney myself.

    It is pretty fucking insane how well Wemby shuts down any attempts to shoot around him. You can still, of course, go at him (as well as you can go at any great big man), but holy shit. You know how Mitch has those awesome blocks of three pointers? People don’t even TRY that shit on Wemby!

    Been listening to Fred Katz’s Patreon podcast with The Athletic’s Spurs writer, Jared Weiss. Weiss acknowledges that the Knicks have a chance — and much more of one than most of the “Spurs people” he talks to (though it’s unclear if he’s referring to the organization or fans) — but nonetheless seems very confident in Wemby’s ability to stifle whatever it is the Knicks want to do on offense. But also acknowledges they haven’t yet played a team with this much shooting.

    Dustin Hoffman was a big fan back in the day, before he moved to L.A. I recall being at a Knick game with Ms. Nateman, in the early ’90’s and we observed Woody Allen making out with Sunny-Yi Previn, before their relationship became public.

    Sis sends this from Instagram:

    nycmayor
    Today, I signed an Executive Order temporarily repealing bedtimes in the City of New York so that kids of all ages can watch our team in the NBA Finals.

    As Mayor, you’re forced to make many difficult decisions. This was not one of them.

    Go Knicks.

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    Noble, you totally talked about TC. People just weren’t paying attention, I guess. It made me happy to hear he’s a fan from all the way back.

    He needs to sit you courtside for just one game – middle of the season against the Wiz, whatever. I want you to have that experience!

    When I worry about the Spurs, it’s usually because of one incident I remember vividly: in the cup final Mike Brown had to turn to Tyler Kolek in the 4Q because Stephon Castle was pressuring Brunson relentlessly.

    I’m not expecting Tyler or even Jose to get their number called much in this series, so it’s going to be up to Mikal to handle the ball when called upon. But I think Harper can be pretty relentless, too.

    It might be important for Deuce to start playing well.

    Or it might be a big series for Clarkson. His newfound offensive rebounding prowess would come in handy because that’s a real weakness for SA.

    The line moved from Spurs -5.5 yesterday morning to -4.5 late yesterday, but is now back at -5.5. 🙁

    Dustin Hoffman was a big fan back in the day, before he moved to L.A. I recall being at a Knick game with Ms. Nateman, in the early ’90’s and we observed Woody Allen making out with Sunny-Yi Previn, before their relationship became public.

    That’s a really good one and going purely on true celebrity stature and accomplishment a very good argument could be made that Hoffman is #1.

    Another one that doesn’t show up on the ’99 clips for whatever reason is Tom Brokaw, who was a giant in the days when network news really mattered.

    A lot of these guys — Brokaw, Woody, Hoffman — were true fans who didn’t sit on “celebrity row” — not sure when that even started — but just had really good seats in the reds, then purples, and would be shown occasionally by the TV cameras. It took awhile for it to become an every-game ritual to show the list of celebrities who were at an association game. There’s no doubt that some, in NYC and other places, who are only there because the team has comped them tickets to sit down low for the TV cameras. That was never Spike, Woody, Hoffman, Brokaw, and I’m sure some others. (And obviously TC, as TNFH has relayed.)

    I’m not expecting Tyler or even Jose to get their number called much in this series, so it’s going to be up to Mikal to handle the ball when called upon. But I think Harper can be pretty relentless, too.

    I think/hope Hart will be de facto the PG/main ball handler. Wemby will guard him, and so they probably don’t bring a second guy to ball pressure him. Brunson gets off the ball until he can get it to attack. We will have to live with Hart turnovers, but those generally don’t come as much from ballhandling as they do from brain farts. Mikal can help, but I think he’s more prone to being pressured.

    I don’t like the idea of Hart bringing the ball up against this D at all. He defaults to too fast and makes poor decisions.

    It could be my imagination but I think Mikal added “solid secondary ballhandler” to the list of magic powers he sprouted in the last month.

    But against the Spurs we might need a solid tertiary option, too.

    Woody’s been banned for over a decade, E.

    So’s Oakley. I put no credence or stock in any James Dolan nonsense.

    It’s a career “ranking,” in any event. Hoffman and Brokaw haven’t been there in ages.

    When I worry about the Spurs, it’s usually because of one incident I remember vividly: in the cup final Mike Brown had to turn to Tyler Kolek in the 4Q because Stephon Castle was pressuring Brunson relentlessly

    That’s 100% my worry too but as others have said it doesn’t work as long as Wemby is guarding Josh Hart. Josh would just walk the ball up the court and meet Wemby below the three point line. Did Josh play in that cup game?

    In other words, they have to put Wemby on KAT to go full court pressure. It’s still a huge problem but at least you can park KAT on top of the key and run side actions getting Brunson to the rim and/or mid range shots from baseline.

    Deuce, Shamet & Mikal are all trash. Their ineptness in this area is one of the major reasons they lost to Indiana last year.

    Hoffman was actually there for one of this year’s playoff games. In the 90s there were no court side seats aligned to the team benches. Just the seats on the risers ( now) sections 4, 5,6,10,11, and 12). That’s where Woody used to sit. Before rising to fame, Spike used to go down from the blue seats and stand on the side of the risers. Used to chat with him ( post She’s Gotta to Have It), during warmups when I went down there. After warm-ups, I got kicked up, he didn’t.

    Never understood how Steve Schirippa keeps getting court side seats. I get that he was on an iconic show, but he’s done nothing other than the Sopranos, and he didn’t exactly have a major role on that show either

    Unless he pays for them, which would be surprising as well considering how much they cost.

    Josh would just walk the ball up the court and meet Wemby below the three point line

    I don’t know why people keep saying this.

    Has Josh ever “just walked the ball up the court”?

    There’s a reason we rarely use him to help Brunson.

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    It’s a career “ranking,” in any event.

    I don’t know, man. It was pretty cringe whenever they’d pan to Woody and his daughter/wife was sitting next to him. Not exactly the celebrity couple I wanted the Knicks to be associated with.

    If we’re going way back, JFK Jr’s probably up there.

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    I’m gonna go with fat joe and tracey morgan being my fave celeb fans…

    some keep hope alive folks during hard times…

    ha, if jose can help get the chip, and stick with the team for a few season – he might be my fave OAKAAK sitting on the sidelines some day…

    But damnit, I want 4 more wins. I want legend status for Brunson. Redemption for KAT. Sidekick celebrations with Hart and Mikal. I can already imagine all of this.

    OG: “Come on, man !?”

    LOLOL!

    OG: “Come on, man !?”

    LOLOL!

    Don’t be ridiculous, OG would never be that expressive

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    Bill O’Reilly’s giant head blocked my view of the court for an entire year.

    Honestly I think the celebrity comparison is kind of silly. Just look at relative ticket prices. Going to a Knicks finals game cost a bit in 1994, but not even in the same universe, even inflation-adjusted, of what they cost now. There is not a ticket to be had on stubhub for game three that is selling for less than $4,000. The seats I’ll be sitting in are listed for over $10,000. Is there even a precendent for this?

    PS the cheapest seat for Game 1 in SA is listed at $809. A decent seat is gonna run $2,000. As outrageous as that sounds, it would make sense to buy a ticket, flight, hotel room, and dinner at the best restaurant in town rather than spring for MSG!

    I don’t know why people keep saying this.

    Has Josh ever “just walked the ball up the court”?

    There’s a reason we rarely use him to help Brunson.

    After Game 3 against CLE, in which Brunson played 41 minutes (and with a view towards the Finals and precisely this issue) I took a look at who got the non-Brunson ball handling duties.

    Jose Alvarado only played 4 minutes. For the remaining 3 non-Brunson minutes, which were the first 3 minutes of the 4Q, the NYK ball handler was: Josh Hart.

    And he did in fact walk the ball up the court, against the zero ball pressure CLE cooperatively brought to bear.

    The other NYK on the court were Deuce, Bridges, Shamet and Towns. And Hart got the honors. (Deuce clearly fell out of the handling circle of trust with his disastrous few minutes of (attempted) ball handling in the 2Q of Game 2 vs. the Hawks.)

    Although Spurs might desire the Wemby/Hart matchup, they might not be as cooperative in allowing Hart to stroll up court, unmolested. Alvarado (or Kolek) might be a non-Brunson necessity for the level of pressure SAS is capable of.

    RIP Rick Adelman. Heck of a coach for some really good Blazers and Kings teams.

    RIP Rick Adelman. Heck of a coach for some really good Blazers and Kings teams.

    I started by being a Blazers fan, briefly, because i discovered the NBA when my favorite european player (Drazen Petrovic) went to Portland. Great coach, and great seasons (90 to 92). May he rest in peace.

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