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  • 60 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.11.01)”

    Whether or not KAT plays against Detroit, Thibs has to start playing more guys. Eight man rotation this early in the season is not sustainable, especially since KAT and OG have durability issues to begin with. Dadiet didn’t look awful in his minutes; 5 minutes in each half seems survivable. A bench of Deuce, Payne, Huk, and Dadiet incredible, but if those guys are mixed and matched with starters, it seems workable and would keep everyone fresher until Precious and/or Shamet are back.

    So either Dadiet, or the FO has to stop waiting on Shamet and sign a veteran whom Thibs will actually play.

    Freddie Freeman apparently played the whole postseason with torn cartilage in his ribs. Apparently it generally puts you out for months. Quite impressive.

    Alan, hope all went well and I hope you don’t get too invested in Thibs expanding the rotation.

    Agree about the rotation Alan. You look at the box scores of other teams and they’re playing 10 or 11 guys every night. And I’m sure some of those teams are dealing with injuries too.

    I know “Thibs is gonna Thibs” but it’s way too early in the season to be only playing 8 guys.

    If all of your top 10 guys plays 65 games, i.e. is mostly healthy for the whole year, you’re still missing, on average, two of those top 10 guys per night. If you play 8 every time you’ve got a couple rotation guys on the shelf, you’re going to be playing 8 an awful lot.

    The solution is simple: make “Ironman” Mikal Bridges play every minute of the NBA season.

    (But really, Dadiet, Kolek, and Huk need more minutes.)

    Yeah the short rotation goes against the logic that with all the new faces you need to try as many different things as possible to see what works best.

    Chris Paul is quickly approaching the “ageless” category: 19/7/10/2 in 32 minutes last night.

    I’m sure Thibs sees it as a short sprint till Shamet or Ryan get signed or Precious comes back. It’s dumb. When is 14 days up?

    I don’t think Dadiet is close to ready but they may need to throw him out there anyway. Maybe throw KAT at the 4 because Thibs clearly trusts his Cs more than the other backups.

    It sucks because we’re flush at small guard & C, but missing the 2 guys who alleviate the minutes of our wings (3 if McCullar is viable).

    Hey Alan, hope you’re okay!

    I’m mildly worried about the short rotation, I get that Precious and Mitch (and Shamet) are out, but it’s not the best way to protect fragile players (OG, KAT), or already bruised ones (Hart and to an extent JB, remember the game against the Cavs).

    Zebras don’t change their stripes…

    End of October (according only to me):
    MVP—
    1. Jayson Tatum
    2. Devin Booker
    3. LaMelo Ball
    4. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
    5. Kyrie Irving

    Top 3 Knicks—
    1. Karl-Anthony Towns
    2. Deuce McBride
    3. Mikal Bridges

    Top 3 Knick Killers—
    1. Jayson Tatum
    2. Darius Garland
    3. Tyler Herro

    Power Rankings—
    1. Warriors
    2. Cavaliers
    3. Thunder
    4. Celtics
    5. Kings
    6. Rockets
    7. Magic
    8. Suns
    9. Mavericks
    10. Knicks

    Part of me thinks the Thibs is playing the starters this much to get them to gel faster, but obviously there is a history there so I hope he manages it better soon. The fact that there hasn’t been any back-to-back early on helps, I suppose.

    Power Rankings—
    1. Warriors
    2. Cavaliers
    3. Thunder
    4. Celtics
    5. Kings
    6. Rockets
    7. Magic
    8. Suns
    9. Mavericks
    10. Knicks

    Why Golden State at 1? They’re not undefeated like the Cavs or OKC, who would be heavy favorites over GS before the season.

    I’m also surprised at Hou & Sac being so high.

    I’m impressed by the Warriors being 4-1 without having Curry for two of those games. I’m sure that the Thunder will rise, but I don’t think the Cavs start is “real” or sustainable. Rockets would be 4-1 if they hadn’t lost a heartbreaker to the Spurs, but yeah…….I guess I could “ding” them for that a little bit more. And I understand what you are asking about the Kings…….their two losses were close ones to the Wolves and Lakers. Jury is definitely still out on them, but I think they are better than their early record indicates.

    Cavs could win 70 games and I’d still pray the Knicks play them in the playoffs.

    Cavs could win 70 games and I’d still pray the Knicks play them in the playoffs.

    After this jinx I’m really worried 😉

    Cavs could win 70 games and I’d still pray the Knicks play them in the playoffs.

    Exactly – I have then finishing second in the East but losing to us or the C’s or many of the top teams. They have plenty of depth and did well last year with tons of injuries.

    Are they really better than the Celtics and OKC though? That seems like quite a stretch unless you already thought they were one of the best in the league.

    Even the games they have played aren’t high quality wins. I’m not sure their toughest opponent is as good as our easiest.

    As for Cleveland, I’m not sure what people have against them. They’ve pretty consistently been one of the best teams when healthy.

    They’ve pretty consistently been one of the best teams when healthy.

    Agreed. But they are the opposite of us, with redundancy that helps them in the regular season but doesn’t add enough value in the playoffs. Higher floor, lower ceiling. (Unless Atkinson can unlock something, which isn’t impossible.)

    Agreed. But they are the opposite of us, with redundancy that helps them in the regular season but doesn’t add enough value in the playoffs. Higher floor, lower ceiling. (Unless Atkinson can unlock something, which isn’t impossible.)

    They lost to us in year 1 and then had Allen and, eventually, DMitch hurt in year 2. We’re labelling them a low ceiling team based off a single year in the playoffs.

    Garland is still improving. Mobley is younger than 2 of our rookies. I’m not sold on them plateauing quite yet.

    These Cavs remind me of Lenny Wikens’ teams from the late 80’s early 90’s. 3 of those teams won 54 games or more but they were never really considered championship contenders come playoff time.

    if Giannis goes to OKC for Williams and a million future picks they should just hold a trophy ceremony on the spot

    I just…I just wanna know- HWHAT IN THE FUCKSHIT IS DOC DOIN IN MILWAUKEE??

    Yea..some things are so shockingly bad that you need to combine 2 cuss words lol

    The NBA has let the small-market cartel of teams like the Thunder, Spurs, and Pacers change so many rules to reign in the large markets. If the Thunder pull that off it’s time to start taxing asset hoarders.

    In fact they should just do it now anyway. There’s an apron for spending, there should be an apron for excess picks. You got more than 3 (first apron), you start to lose things. You got more than 5 (second apron), it becomes painful to operate.

    Large market teams can’t afford to execute these tactics because they lose too much money. It’s only financially viable to small market teams who get revenue sharing. Level the field.

    if Giannis goes to OKC for Williams and a million future picks they should just hold a trophy ceremony on the spot

    Nah, they’ll manage to get him without giving up any of SGA, JDub, and Chet. At some point in the next five years they will have the greatest roster in the history of basketball.

    Large market teams can’t afford to execute these tactics because they lose too much money. It’s only financially viable to small market teams who get revenue sharing. Level the field.

    Wouldn’t we benefit from revenue sharing if we lost a bunch of money?

    What specifically about the strategy OKC has followed since Presti was hired would have been unavailable to our team? It seems to me that we’d only have been better able to do what they did. If we’d ever drafted a core like Durant/Westbrook/Harden/Ibaka, we’d have been able to afford to keep them all in that apron-less era, right?

    We should make it harder for the smarter teams that execute the superior strategy to win. Need to make it easier for the dumber teams that follow the worse strategy.

    The Knicks generate over $500M in revenue annually, Pags.

    The Thunder generate half that.

    That’s why teams like the Knicks and Lakers always try (even if they sometimes do it it badly). A down year can cost $100M, but they’re still one of the highest revenue teams in the league, so they wouldn’t recoup any of it.

    Only teams with low revenue can suffer a 20% decline from one year to the next and break even because of revenue sharing. That’s why tanking and asset hoarding tends to be almost exclusively the strategy of small market teams.

    OKC needs to make a blockbuster trade cause I don’t the current roster offensively is capable of winning a championship.

    We should make it harder for the smarter teams that execute the superior strategy to win.

    Isn’t that what the aprons are?

    The Celtics were a smart team that executed a good strategy.

    The Warriors were a smart team that executed a good strategy.

    And the small market teams conspired to cut them down and make sure there would be severe punishments if they continued executing well.

    Fair is fair. Make it even.

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    More bad luck for Pelicans. Herb Jones has a right shoulder strain and a small low-grade partial thickness tear in the rotator cuff; team says recovery takes about 2-4 weeks. Jones will return based on how he responds.

    CJ McCollum has a right adductor strain and will miss about 2-3 weeks.

    The Knicks should be the Dodgers. Higher revenue and smarter. And we actually seem to be getting there.

    I didn’t watch one second of the Yankees before game 1 of the World Series, yet I could have given the Dodgers the exact same scouting report based solely off what I’ve read on a Knicks blog.

    The Thunder have had a bad record 2 out of the last 15 years and went to the playoffs 11 times.

    The Thunder have had a bad record 2 out of the last 15 years and went to the playoffs 11 times.

    One of the many teams to have multiple contending windows with teams better than the best in our entire history in just the 25 years we spent trying to ‘win now’ since 1999…

    Too bad tanking never works though

    Detroit have a lot of young guys, hopefully Thibs will let Dadiet and Huk and maybe even Tyler get some minutes.

    Speaking of short rotations, has there been any Precious news lately?

    The Thunder should be calling Milwaukee every day with packages for Giannis if the buzz is indeed real about Giannis getting pissed with all their issues.

    They have a bunch of nice pieces but I still don’t think they’re good enough to beat the Celtics, some of those guys are still too young, and SGA is 26 now, this is his window. This is the time to make a move. As good as those young pieces are, SGA is the guy who makes the entire team work and you never know in the NBA, he might get a freak injury and then you’re left with a bunch of nice pieces without the key guy who makes them all work.

    Giannis fits their core absolutely perfectly and is a top guy with experience, I would trade basically any non SGA asset they have for him.

    Speaking of short rotations, has there been any Precious news lately?

    They said re-evaluated in 2-4 weeks. In theory, we could learn something as soon as Sunday.

    I think Tuesday is two weeks from opening day and we’ll need to sign 2 players. If Huk is one, we could sign Matt Ryan and see him against the Hawks. With Thibs though, who knows if he’ll ever actually play.

    The Bucks were horribly mismanaged starting with firing Budenholzer, then trading for Lillard and then bringing in Doc. They screwed up their identity on defense and Doc is wildly overrated, not to mention they are old.

    They said re-evaluated in 2-4 weeks.

    With the Knicks that could mean he’s in a coma and his next of kin are searching for the “do not resuscitate” document.

    Really makes you wonder what made Giannis be in on this team in the first place. Like what did he learn in the first week that’s a surprise?

    Dude should’ve asked out when we had assets.

    What’s really great is we traded away the Bucks top-4 protected pick that conveys this year.

    With the Knicks that could mean he’s in a coma and his next of kin are searching for the “do not resuscitate” document.

    too funny strat 🙂

    i don’t really mind not having our medical staff disclose a bunch of player personal health issues to the media…

    as long as they’re following league guidelines on reporting, who cares…

    from a sportsook perspective it does matter, so you have to follow league rules (boo lying/cheating embiid/sixers)…

    what does concern me is when guys are out on the court trying to play with only 2 or 3 good limbs on their body…mitch (ankle/foot), OG (elbow) and jalen (ankle) come to mind specifically…i’m pretty sure it’s happened more than a few times though over the last couple of years…

    holding a player out is an important decision that affects winning/losing…

    i was surprised josh hart played against the heat…he looked pretty banged up at the end of the previous game…he must just be him though…

    we shall see over the course of the season how they handle OG, jalen, KAT and mitch…those players need an empowered team medical staff…

    With the Knicks that could mean he’s in a coma and his next of kin are searching for the “do not resuscitate” document.

    Thibs would still play him

    Best center since Ewing. Best PG since Clyde. Best wing since King. Modern day Rodman at the 4. Top 5 defender at the 3. If Deuce isn’t a sixth man of the year candidate he should be. He’s a better 3 man than RJ Barrett.

    Prescious was looking very bouncy until his injury. Mitch will be back. Our injuries are in our second five right now so, yes Thibs will lean on starters.

    Extra time outs for checking every call on replay is definitely allowing extended minutes. Fuk. I played 70 minutes straight of full court 4 on 4 today.

    Best wing since King.

    The Melo hate has officially gotten out of hand

    We’re labelling them a low ceiling team based off a single year in the playoffs.

    No, it’s based on their somewhat redundant construction

    What’s really great is we traded away the Bucks top-4 protected pick that conveys this year.

    I’ve been saying for years that it could be a good pick. It was clear the Bucks were getting old. It was just a question of when.

    The Detroit announcer talking about the Knicks motion offense. It’s surreal.

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