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198 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.03.19)”
DEUCE!!! I want 50+ wins.
Not much better than getting a good night’s sleep, checking the phone in the morning to see a Knicks’ win.
Very nice move by Thibs starting Deuce. We played these guys a month ago with the two center starting lineup and were down 14-0. Last night we were up 8-0.
This game was very late for me… someone please tell me all about it as it looks like a statement win for the Knicks! 🧡💙
Automatic loss.
We’re gonna get run out of the building.
We’re winning 50.
The Detroit trade is redeemed by the minutes it created for Deuce.
Will be interesting to see if Thibs sticks with this starting 5 for Denver or was this a one off adjustment for Golden State. I think McBride more than earned the chance to start again while OG is out.
Credit to the coaching staff for looking at what happened last game we had against the warriors and trying something different. Crazy to play the warriors and have the better PG
The McBride contract extension is looking pretty good at the moment.
Just to remind people it’s three years for $13M starting next season.
Deuce might have to change his nickname to Trey.
See, the OG trade (with Quick going out) was bearable because we had Deuce waiting in the wings… because, once upon a time, we made draft picks. This is something we should do again.
🧡💙
This team reminds me more and more of the Thibs’ Bulls teams of the early 2010’s with Brunson as Rose, I-Hart as Noah, OG (or Hart) as Deng, DDV as Korver…
And like the Knicks, a team no one wanted to face in the playoffs.
I believe we will. My theory is Leon is waiting to add that one last piece. Either another star or another OG type elite role player/right below star type player. Once that piece is put in place, we’ll start making picks to fill out the rest of the bench and put young talent in the pipeline to hopefully sustain us long term. I’m betting this draft Leon will make 2 picks but he will also trade back a pick to pick up another future one.
Deuce is the kind of fringe rotation player that any team could use. Hard-nosed, team-first, ready when his number is called either for 48 or 2 minutes. Not sure what his ceiling is, but his floor is valuable bench piece.
The main thing is his 3pt shooting is catching up to where it has been at every level other than the NBA. He shot it well in college and in the G-League. That’s why I didn’t agree with those who felt that his shot was hopelessly broken. Seems like he tweaked his release a bit so that it’s more squared up and consistent. Maybe DDV is passing along the Dteph wisdom?
I thought that was one of Thibs’ best games of the season, from the decision to start Deuce to the way he managed I-Hart’s minutes restriction. Excellent job by him.
It’s an interesting question. I kind of feel like there were some factors in the GSW game that really helped Thibs’ decision-making: how the Warriors basically ignored Precious in that game in New York, how small they are, and of course the need for someone to really guard Steph in a way that Donte cannot.
I’m not sure all of these are present against Denver. Murray is not as good an assignment for Deuce – he is bigger and more physical than Steph, so Donte might be an ok option for him. Thibs may also be uncomfortable with Hart on Aaron Gordon. So I could see Precious starting, even if it mucks up the offense.
They will get killed by Denver’s height and length with the Brunson, Deuce, JHart, DDV, I Hart. Gordon, Porter and Jokic are just too tall AND too skilled. Forget about Jokic, I don’t see how DDV and J Hart can deal with Porter and Gordon’s length/height/ with skill.
But it was a great master move vs the GSW line up, but they had no answer for Jackson Davis as it was. Gordon and Porter will vegomatic that small of a lineup.
The thing with draft picks is it’s getting kind of hard to figure out “team needs” — which is a good sign!
Maybe another PF would make sense for bench scoring and as Randle’s eventual replacement. Also, we might need another legit center just in case one of iHart/Mitch has to go.
I think part of it, too, is Hart has been beasting so much on the boards that Thibs was ok starting him at the 4 now. You obviously give up a lot of size when you do that but Hart is such a competitor he kind of makes up for it in other ways.
I said that about the Denver game, dickhead.
And while I want to give Thibs heaps of credit, it was obvious to all of us that he should’ve gone with this small lineup for the last GSW matchup. But kudos to him for adjusting.
Yes, and Joshua with another yeoman’s triple-double. Tip o’ the hat to him.
We need a legit backup point guard, ideally someone tall that could play next to Deuce as an undersized shooting guard. That and a backup PF who can shoot are our biggest needs if the roster isn’t radically reshaped in the offseason.
I don’t know how to search for it but I’d love to know if that was the worst performance by a player recording a triple double in NBA history
I don’t think it’s even in the top 5, DRed.
I give you this:
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400900017
Or this
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201503180PHI.html
Russ has 6 triple doubles with 10+ turnovers. Hart had a poor shooting night, but 2 turnovers in 48 minutes is totally fine.
I think he did, actually.
There was definitely a home game recently where we tried this lineup. I think it was against Golden State.
Here’s another one, DRed:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202103220HOU.html
8-30!
Yeah we did play small some of the time against the Warriors in the garden, but it was too little too late, that’s the game where we got blitzed in the first quarter
Thibs’s Chicago teams were 23-28 in the playoffs.
You can’t take a joke?
For the record, I’ve never called you anything like that. If you can’t take a joke, especially after a W, maybe you’re the dickhead?
Except he really doesn’t. Whatever regular season advantage is derived from his “competitiveness” disappears in the playoffs.
Thibs should put Deuce on Jokic for 40 minutes.
And Rama, please apologize to your all-star sister — no gender disrespect intended. My sisters are deeply unathletic (one shot around with me once, and I couldn’t help but block a shot and broke her finger).
I suspect your sister would have been MUCH better than the Detroit Duo. It’s a little over 600 miles from Detroit to NYC, but somewhere along the way they drove off a cliff…
You didn’t call it an automatic loss. But you brought up Dolan’s razor and tend to jump on the negativity bandwagon any time the team faces the slightest adversity. Like you’re afraid of being positive or thinking we can overcome any adversity.
You advocate for OG to sit out both games and then when it’s announced he will, you immediately jump to Dolan’s razor, which is the stupidest fucking idea this blog has ever created.
I guess it was a joke, but it’s the same stale “look how hard this team plays, don’t underestimate this team!!!” “humor.”
Nothing about last night translates to anything important.
I’m not going to begrudge anyone their regular season fun, but there should be a KB demilitarized zone where regular season and playoff discussion are both permitted in full effect.
Objective base case is that the injury to OG was seriously mishandled.
Most likely, they traded for damaged goods — but that will be a tough one to definitively prove, particularly to people who are in the tank. It’s quite hard to believe his elbow went from “fine” to “inflamed” to “bone chip, needs surgery” in the very short time he was a pre-surgery Knick.
Rose (and Thibs, to a lesser extent) need to be given the highest marks for negotiating a 3 year extension BEFORE the OG trade, and then signing Deuce to a scrub value extension the day after the trade knowing full well they were going to expand his role. Real 4 dimensional chess by Rose there.
I wonder how Cuban sleeps at night letting both Nash and Brunson slip through his genius fingers….
A little context please, they lost Rose for the entire 2011-2012 playoffs and Noah for most of them.
Can we not, for the nth time, re-litigate Thibs’ playoff track record. That’s the only thing our usual trolls have to talk about of late. Well that and Hart’s hustlebunniness. They cannot talk about an actual good, well coached game from their team.
We could, if people would refrain from asserting and pretending that either his Bulls teams or Knick teams were teams “no one wanted to play in the playoffs.”
You guys came in and started victory lapping Hubert and talking nonsense. Expect pushback (from time to time, anyway).
What a shocker, the same drone who feels obligated to incessantly remind us that what works in the regular season won’t work in the playoffs just did it again! For the (pick your favorite 5-digit number)th time!
Congrats on your ongoing efforts to chisel your likeness onto the Mt. Rushmore of KB trolls. What a guy!
Because in the grand scheme of things it’s meaningless. We know Thibs can rally the troops (and play them 40+ minutes, at least the ones who aren’t injured) to win regular season games.
Seriously E, just STFU already and take a hiatus like you constantly say you’re gonna do.
As usual, the initial trolling salvo was someone else’s, in this case the “automatic loss.”
“Because in the grand scheme of things it’s meaningless.”
How very profound!
Keep it up, E.
These are the same trolls who followed up a signature win by trying to manufacture an argument over “guaranteed loss”.
They deserve you.
Did someone not call last night’s game an automatic loss? Hmmm…let’s see:
And your response to the poking fun at that mentality is: Well, it’s just a regular season win by a coach and players who will ultimately lose in playoffs, so it’s meaningless in the grand scheme of things. So how dare you take a victory lap when the Knicks win because they are losers, especially Thibs and his regular season wonders like Josh Hart, Deuce, iHart, Randle, etc…
What a guy!
So, is it a quadruple double? LOL
This stretch of the thread feels an awful lot like watching Burks and Bogey throw up bad shot after bad shot (accent on throw up). I mean seriously, this is wince-inducing.
Let’s just all agree that regular season games are completely meaningless, that the Knicks will suck in the playoffs because X, Y, and Z, and, I don’t know, maybe enjoy the fact we beat a good team at full health while missing three of our starters?
(Not to mention that three of our bench players played like tire fire, looking at you too, Precious…).
You can do your dumbass, basketball-illiterate victory laps if you want, but if you troll other people in the process, you really shouldn’t be so soft as to expect that you might not get a response in return.
And no, there really is no carryover between last night and the playoffs. The real news yesterday wasn’t the meaningless game with guys playing jumbo minutes — it was the reports of the team’s plum acquisition being shut down again because of the same elbow he just had surgery on.
Anyone sane would trade last night’s W for a non-barking OG elbow. And anyone sane would very much be wondering whether the team traded two valuable young pieces for damaged goods.
But, yay — they beat the Warriors in a regular season game!!! Four-D chess!!!!! You haterz suck!!!!!
If you didn’t see the game I feel sorry for you.
Raven predictions: While I don’t normally predict things because WRONG (something the troll doesn’t care about, hence being a troll, among so very many other reasons), here’s mine:
OG comes back fully healthy and functional by play-off time. It’ll be touch and go for a while, because, you know, he had SURGERY, but he’ll round into shape.
Julius will come back but he’ll be a wreck. Not based on medical knowledge, based on his own history of coming back from things. His super-power is incredible strength and endurance, and that comes from lengthy time spent going 100% (like all summer). Remember how this season started. He may be borderline useless for the playoffs, although maybe better than Precious. Which I guess is a thing.
Ditto for Mitch. IF he comes back, he’ll be a tall guy waving his arms for a while. Which is not useless, given how tall he is. But his history is also one of a slow grind back to his real game. And he’s been out for a long while now. Can’t see him rounding into shape in the time remaining unless he shows up tonight ready to go.
What do I know, but that seems the most likely set of scenarios. May I be proven wrong on Julius and Mitch.
Another reason to enjoy games like last night. Because sports are not just zero-sum games where 29 teams suck ass because loser. They’re also entertainment, and right now I’ll put the Knicks up against anyone for that.
Starting lineup begins the game stomping on their starters with the defense causing TOs and iHart hitting his floater. GS had 5TOs & only 2fgs at one point.
iHart comes out and things kind of go to shit as Trayce Jackson-Davis catches lobs over Achiuwa every time down the court. Luckily, Deuce knocks down a bunch of 3s to keep us ahead.
Bojan & Burks come in. Bojan misses 2 open corner 3s and commits several very ugly TOs when getting doubled after trying to drive/post a couple feet in from the corner. Burks wasn’t good but looked under control with the ball in his hands and didn’t look completely washed out there.
Sims comes in for Precious to close the half. He also looked terrible and doesn’t see the floor again despite Precious getting repeatedly abused by TJD once again in the 2nd half. We didn’t play 2 Cs together the whole game, which was surprising.
Starting lineup continues to kick butt in the 2nd half and the backups all continue to suck.
Hart chases down a loose ball bouncing towards halfcourt and is able to slap it ahead to Donte for an open 3 despite clearly being behind a Warrior. Quintessential Hart game.
A lot of uncalled fouls on Brunson and an egregious one against Hart at the basket.
iHart checks back in for the 4th and the game is effectively over despite a couple more big plays happening. His defense, passing, and scoring were all important and made GS look like a g-league team anytime he was in. He had a 139.2 Ortg & 88.2 Drtg. In comparison, Precious was at 102.8 Ortg & 145.7 Drtg with Sims putting up similar but slightly worse numbers. It was night & day with iHart in the game.
Deuce nails a pullup 3 over Dray to stymie a Warrior run. He makes a 2nd big play chasing down Wiggins after a TO to commit the foul and have him miss 2FTs was big because you don’t want to give Steph the chance to make a couple 3s and steal a win.
Brunson was incredible but it’s so easy and expected for him that I barely noticed. They had zero answers for him and couldn’t double with Deuce in the game instead of Precious.
“You can do your dumbass, basketball-illiterate victory laps if you want, but if you troll other people in the process, you really shouldn’t be so soft as to expect that you might not get a response in return.”
Fair. It should be taken for granted that the same folks who pollute the site with half-assed hot takes tend to have thin skins, and will respond with vitriol whenever someone throws their half-assed hot takes back in their face (you know, the dreaded victory lap thing.) In that sense, you should definitely expect a response.
“And no, there really is no carryover between last night and the playoffs. The real news yesterday wasn’t the meaningless game with guys playing jumbo minutes — it was the reports of the team’s plum acquisition being shut down again because of the same elbow he just had surgery on.”
That was indeed big news, did anyone shrug that off as meaningless? I must have missed that. But the games keep coming and last I checked, we are in a battle for playoff seeding. Oh wait, I forgot, we are going to lose in the playoffs anyway so it’s meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
“Anyone sane would trade last night’s W for a non-barking OG elbow.”
Sure!! Where can we sign up for that? I’m in! Oh wait, we can’t? Okay then, I’ll just have to live with the W.
“But, yay — they beat the Warriors in a regular season game!!! Four-D chess!!!!! You haterz suck!!!!!”
Yeah, kinda!
I feel somewhat more optimistic about Mitch, Raven. He only needs to play about 18 minutes to keep iHart fresh. I think he can be impactful in that role. At the very least, I trust him to be much more effective than Precious and Sims.
Your Randle prediction seems spot on.
As for OG, we’re all just wildly guessing, right? “He’ll be 100%” and “he’ll sit out the entire playoffs” feel equally in play with the information we currently have.
I legitimately had never heard of Trayce Jackson Davis before the game yesterday
that was pretty perfect there raven…nice…
I have an important question for you – what did you have for breakfast?
In all honesty I just don’t get not being able to enjoy the regular season. The entire point of being a fan and watching sports is because it’s fun! It allows you to forget about the real bullshit we have to deal with in real life for a couple of hours and be entertained. How anyone can watch this group and not enjoy it is mind-boggling to me. They’re a fun team to root for!
Never speak ill of the Razor. It doesn’t like that.
When things are going well, just don’t mention the Razor’s name. He’s taking a nap at the moment so let’s not wake him up.
I think last night’s game was pretty huge. Obviously standings wise but road win against a still dangerous GSW team playing hard for a playoff spot, Thibs makes a huge adjustment starting Deuce and Deuce responds with the biggest game of his career. That all seems…significant to me.
But I forgot. You only watch the last 5 minutes of Endgame and skip all the previous marvel movies that build up to it cause only winning a championship matters. What a way to enjoy sports!
Nah, the entire point is to bitch and nitpick every move and act like the sky is falling and call the coach and GM failures cause we most likely won’t beat the celtics in the playoffs.
That’s fair. As for me, I’ve been to a lot of Knick/Ranger playoff games and obviously watch them all, and they’re simply a cut above. Way above. And so naturally, I center things around them.
But that’s only one fan’s perspective. There are others.
howdy DR ed…in the games I’ve watched recently with the warriors (a few) jackson-davis has replaced looney in the lineup…
he cab play around the rim really well…he’s a rook, but spent 4 years playing in college…
he looks very nba ready…
it’s weird, I still don’t know how we won that game – other than as BC pointed, the warriors are not consistently good…
The narrative of him not being able to play with pain very well, by way of Toronto, was injected into the proceedings in today’s NY Post.
As of three days ago, he basically couldn’t lift his arm. So we’ll see how it goes.
Where he was coached for most/all of it by none other than Mike (The East is Big, Man) Woodson.
nice recap EB 😊
ha, ‘ol mike woodson…I kind of liked him as our coach, and as a person…
saw kenny payne is out of a job now…
Edit: and, may I ask – what did you have for breakfast today E?
I haven’t looked this up but I am metaphysically certain that the worst triple double of all time belongs to Philadelphia-era Michael Carter-Williams. It makes too much sense.
Also, I think we may make the ECF even if Randle isn’t back, so long as we’re reasonably healthy otherwise and Brunson remains at this MVP level.
say what you will – I am still surprised by last night’s win…
If OG is back, this team can easily make the Conference Finals.
What’s funny about the Warriors is that their last title was predicated on Wiggins suddenly being really good out of nowhere…then he stopped that. It’s the damndest thing. I mean, hey, good timing for both him (he got another bag) and the Warriors (they got one last ring).
“I legitimately had never heard of Trayce Jackson Davis before the game yesterday”
Yeah, me neither. He’s been really good of late, seems like a great find at #57 in the draft.
“I haven’t looked this up but I am metaphysically certain that the worst triple double of all time belongs to Philadelphia-era Michael Carter-Williams. It makes too much sense.”
Funny, the same guy came to mind for me!
Bizarre take. I mean, any individual regular season game only means so much, but this one demonstrated some genuinely important, big picture trends:
1) Deuce continuing to play well not only gives us a two-way lineup option we weren’t really sure we had in the playoffs, but it obviates the concern about not having an intriguing young player to include in trades.
2) iHart: Destroyer of Worlds seems to be back, which is enormous for our chances in the playoffs.
Writing 11 posts before noon on a Knicks blog about why people shouldn’t enjoy a Knicks win is bizarre behavior in any context, but especially so when the underlying premise (i.e. that the game meant literally nothing) is so obviously wrong.
Like everyone else I am of course concerned about the injuries to OG and Randle, but is everyone supposed to caveat every post about the win by announcing their level of concern about those injuries, or their concern about Tom Thibodeau’s performance in the 2011 playoffs? I don’t think that would make for interesting discussion, actually.
We are two games out of the #3 seed. Full stop.
If Haliburton didn’t suck the Knicks would be 1 game back of Cleveland.
If you think it’s huge, then just come here and celebrate it, and we’ll celebrate it with you. If you use every win as an excuse to promote yourself and put others down, you’re no better than Z-Man.
Anyway I’m sorry I called you a dickhead. I know you’re not. But I honestly don’t understand why people want to troll after a really nice win. E will take the heat for this as he always does, but it was 100% your “in your face!” post that began turning things from celebratory to argumentative.
At age 23 Deuce is a better player than I thought he would ever be at his 99th percentile ceiling. Sometimes it’s nice to be wrong.
Deuce has become what Frank stans hoped he’d be.
I legitimately had never heard of Trayce Jackson Davis before the game yesterday
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18.0 pts 11.8 reb 3.5 ast 1.8 blk 3.8 FTA 61.5% TS%
18.4 pts 11.0 reb 2.7 ast 2.4 blk 4.6 FTA 70.9% TS%
Mobley & TJD this year. genetically, at least, he’s a mortal enemy.
https://www.facebook.com/pacers/photos/a.164534392995/10155064878617996/
“In all honesty I just don’t get not being able to enjoy the regular season. The entire point of being a fan and watching sports is because it’s fun! It allows you to forget about the real bullshit we have to deal with in real life for a couple of hours and be entertained. How anyone can watch this group and not enjoy it is mind-boggling to me. They’re a fun team to root for!”
Amen. You summed up the experience for 99.999% of sports fans.
I believe that in the grand scheme of things, we only have today. Enjoy every moment! I’m coming to the end of my FLA trip with my boy and am very happy to add 3 Knicks road wins to the memories we will carry forward.
As New York fans, celebration can only be achieved though airing of grievances (as I say that, that’s probably just sports fans in general).
A message for the masochists: we are sick and tired of your repetitive ad nauseum grave digging. Get a life! Get a shrink already!
It’s good that the team is cautious with OG, and it’s good that they manage I-Hart’s minutes. I hope they find a way to rest Josh Hart as well – Thibs needs to gamble, needs to find a way! I also hope that Randle comes back sooner rather than later – he needs to get into some rhythm. When fully healthy, this team has winning players and is not afraid of anyone. I wouldn’t bet against them no matter their seating and no matter who they face in the playoffs. People are scared of Boston, but are you sure Boston is not equally scared of those Thibs’ Knicks if they get healthy? 😊 I’ll take our chances, and they are darn good, too!
In terms of actual sports conversation as it happens in 21st century America, projections of current trends to what might happen in the postseason and what it means for the postseason is common currency almost from the beginning of seasons.
“So and so baseball team is probably not going to win the division, but is going to be dangerous in a short series with Ace 1 and Near Ace 2” Debate and takes and counter-takes ensue. Starts around May.
I can see Kansas ultimately being as high as a two seed. Debate and takes and counter-takes ensue. That kind of thing starts around Thanksgiving and never stops.
Etc., etc.
American sports culture revolves around playoffs and postseasons. Regular seasons and regular season achievements barely matter. No one gives a shit that the Rangers finished first overall in 2015. No one is going to give a shit if they finish first overall this year. The Stanley Cup is all that matters.
Regular seasons and regular season achievements barely matter.
What happened in regular season yesterday in order of importance:
-OG’s MRI was clean
-Thibs made a very un-Thibs adjustment to the line up
-OG needed an MRI
-we were able to neutralise the other team’s top 5 NBA player.
-OG will is out for the near term
-we beat the Warriors on the road.
Mixture of good and bad news but the good overwhelms the bad. And as opposed to meaningless or barely matters, hugely important implications for the playoffs
“If you use every win as an excuse to promote yourself and put others down, you’re no better than Z-Man.”
Still can’t get me out of your head, big guy? Maybe it’s time to try ketamine or something.
Or just go back to skipping over my posts like you promised you would.
PS your bromance with E is really cute.
Last night’s game was the first where I really started to find myself in the place where Mitch becomes the best back-up center in the league (not this year, necessarily, but going forward).
But it’s hard to argue that this win was at least partly if not largely on the shoulders of iHart both anchoring the defense (which a healthy Mitch can do easily) and the offense (which Mitch can’t do). His passing — and his terrifyingly sloppy-looking teardrops that almost always go in despite all expectations — really kept the gears turning.
Bacon, egg, and cheese on a roll, geo. No ketchup, no salt and pepper. Griddle of the place I got it already has salt and pepper residue enough. Tasty.
OG’s MRI was clean, but the fact that he didn’t suffer any kind of joint damage isn’t surprising. But the elbow is officially “inflamed” again, which means he isn’t and wasn’t ready to play yet.
Seems like a … cough … suboptimal process.
I appreciate that and yes, I did start this thread off with a shots fired with my automatic loss comment. But it was totally made in jest and pags also did call the game last night an automatic loss, so it wasn’t so much a comment directed at you, Hubs, and more towards the general tone of the board yesterday.
Like I get we have injuries and that has potentially derailed a potentially amazing season and post season. But since Randle and OG went down, we haven’t lost really any place in the standings. And the team has played incredibly well recently and played fantastic last night even without OG. And OG sitting out is not some guarantee that his elbow is fucked. In fact, him sitting out the extra game or two is doing exactly what a lot of people are advocating. They’ve also been very responsible with bringing Randle and Mitch back slowly.
It’s the overall negativity that gets me. This is THE BEST team we’ve had in 20 years. We have a fantastic coach, a great GM, a team full of great players who all buy in and play their asses off every night. We’ve got a good cap situation going forward and the ability to make another big move plus tons of picks. Even if this post season flames out because of the injuries, the future is bright and I just wish the tone here wasn’t so doom and gloom all the time.
The thing is, E, basketball success in the past has some relationship to basketball success in the future such that beating a good team while cripplingly shorthanded does in fact bode well for the playoffs.
Obviously not in some kind of perfectly clear cut way, but the point is so obvious that when people express happiness about the win they don’t feel the need to add the “…because this bodes well for the playoffs” part.
Like I said, if Deuce is the two-way weapon he’s looked like for a while now, that bodes well for the playoffs! If iHart swallows opposing offenses whole and has an offensive bag of his own, that bodes well for the playoffs! If Jalen Brunson continues to be Jalen Brunson, that bodes well for the playoffs!
Happy now? This is such an insufferable shtick, because as usual you’re not going to issue any kind of prediction about the playoffs. You’re going to vaguely imply we’ll have some kind of playoff failure because of Tom Thibodeau, and then take a victory lap whether we get swept in the first round or lose in game 7 of the finals. Prove me wrong!
Exactly correct. Is able to bring the ball up the floor, but not “run” an offense, play plus plus D and shoot from 3.
I also think the term “troll” is way overused. I mean, yeah, I was ribbing people and giving them shit about the negative takes before yesterday’s game. Is that really trolling? I’ve made this analogy before but to me, this community is like a bunch of good friends hanging out at a sports bar. Good friends talk shit about each other’s “hot takes” on insignificant stuff like sports. It’s not trolling.
Pagliacci did call this game (and also Denver’s) an automatic loss, so perhaps it is not only about you.
that sounds delicious E, what’s not to love about a meal where you can walk and eat at the same time…
I’ve been leaning in to omelets and fried potatoes for breakfast most recently…
just got a waffle maker thing, so I’ll be testing that out…normally I’m a pancake guy, but one of the boys prefers waffles…
for some reason it just took me a while to figure out he wasn’t eating the pancakes I would make…confirmed it with his mom, he’s a waffles fan…
I like the no condiment approach…damn near everything in the house is either reduced sugar or no-sugar including the condiments, but trying to train the taste buds to like different things, like no condiments at all…it’s slow progress 🙃
The thing about OG’s elbow is that “loose bodies” don’t just pop up out of nowhere. To my knowledge, they are usually associated with either a trauma, e.g. a badly sprained ankle can chip off bone fragments, or a process affecting insertion sites, like inflammation where the UCL tendon attaches to the bone. So even though the bone chip(s) are removed, the underlying cause is possibly still an issue and he might be dealing with pain and inflammation for a long time, and it wouldn’t shock me if he needs an additional procedure in the offseason.
But it could also just be some scar tissue that got stretched out/broken up and he might be all good in a couple of weeks once things calm down. The clean MRI seems to lean in this direction.
I like this notion…
I don’t mind anger so much, it’s the sense of despair folks exhibit sometimes that tends to trigger me…
we all have emotions though, so…
Man, I was negative about our prospects last night. Indeed, I called it an automatic loss! We won though, and I was wrong. Yay!
E is doing an impressive thing here by treating yesterday’s game as a loss after we’ve already won! It’s kind of like Donald Trump’s stance on the 2020 election but in reverse — and equally as endearing.
Headline from any sports news website:
“Knicks grind out impressive road win over Warriors”
Headline from E sports news:
“Thibodeau grinds players into dust in meaningless regular season win, coach’s playoff record still a major concern”
So if Randle does come back, does it make sense to use him off the bench? If we play Orlando in the first round I think it makes more sense to start him but against Boston does hart make more sense to start? I don’t think thibs will do it, but coming of an injury it might make some sense.
julius will not only be starting when he comes back, but probably playing 40 minutes a night until he furthers hurts his shoulder…
wait, am i being negative 😮
oops, maybe a little despair in their too…
“Man, I was negative about our prospects last night. Indeed, I called it an automatic loss! We won though, and I was wrong. Yay!”
E is doing an impressive thing here by treating yesterday’s game as a loss after we’ve already won! It’s kind of like Donald Trump’s stance on the 2020 election but in reverse — and equally as endearing.”
Great post, pags.
“Headline from any sports news website:
“Knicks grind out impressive road win over Warriors”
Headline from E sports news:
“Thibodeau grinds players into dust in meaningless regular season win, coach’s playoff record still a major concern””
Great post, d-mar!
Btw, Brunson BPM watch:
Now at 5.5, tying our highest in modern history, 1990 Patrick Ewing.
lmao. “McBride, Hartenstein hardest hit as Josh Hart puts up worst triple double in NBA history.”
In light of the darkness sweeping over this thread here’s just a couple of best friends bro-ing out over eating hot wings.
So then the secret to playoff success is playing Josh Hart 48 minutes (*) and Deuce McBride 47 minutes … because it worked against the Warriors on a Monday night in mid-March?
That’s an interesting theory.
“coach’s playoff record still a major concern”
Oh, his playoff record is still a major concern. No question about it.
(*) And him going 5-18 yet again.
No one: Eureka! The secret to playoff success is playing Josh Hart 48 minutes and Deuce McBride 47 minutes … because it worked against the Warriors on a Monday night in mid-March!
E: Hahaha you idiots think the secret to playoff success is playing your 7th and 8th man 48 and 47 minutes! That’s definitely what you’re all hoping will happen in the playoffs instead of playing your All-NBA PF and All-Defense SF! You fools!
i just don’t get the hot wing torture thing KBPR…
it is amusing to watch – those two together in particular…
i remember years ago wilding out with one of the kids over the weekend and consuming bunches of pizza, soda, ice cream and hot wings – my digestive system was never the same afterwards…
yeah, jalen and josh are living the life and man are they brutally honest with one another…
the secret to NBA playoff success is to aquire prime Lebron James.
No but McBride in particular, is a young player who needs experience and what better test than guarding Steph Curry in a game the Warriors needed to win badly on the road while also scoring 29 efficient points. These extended minutes for Deuce now could mean he hits a big shot or comes up with a key steal in a playoff game cause he’s getting the experience now.
Also, fuck you and you’re the only thing that counts are the playoffs narrative. You’re the same person who immediately moved the goal posts when we won our first playoff series in a decade. And we all know you will continue to say I told you so unless we sweep in the finals. You’re not smarter than us just because you hold some impossible standard that only applies to players and coaches you don’t like. But If Cam Reddish goes 3 for 6 and is +1 against the pistons in a meaningless game in November you’ll cry about how we let him go.
The claim was in fact that this win had predictive value for the upcoming playoffs.
And if you’re coaching the opposing team that loses to peak Lebron in the ECF then you’re obviously a failure.
I prefer to acquire prime Michael Jordan.
I’ll take prime Shaq.
The vibes are immaculate
trying to say a regular season win in golden state with a depleted squad is meaningless…is a stretch…but in terms of enjoyment efficacy…it is like finding a half smoked doobie in the car ash tray and smoking it (regular season big win) vs some primo fresh bud in the vape (big playoff win)…you can bask in the glow a bit longer of the fresh primo bud (playoff win)…the whole enchilada is the title..that euphoria lasts for days…that’s LSD…
I was at the game last night. Not sure how it looked on TV but it was clear how much harder the Knicks played than the Dubs. Just big-time effort guys up and down the court for the Knicks – McBride and Hart especially. McBride’s 94 foot defensive effort on Curry (and then Paul) was admirable, especially with how frantic Steph is off the ball. And Hart is just everywhere at all times.
Anyway, it was just glaring to see live. Made me proud to be a Knicks fan knowing that this team will not be outworked.
too funny KBPR – did you see how jelen reacted when josh brought up becky hammond saying he was too small to be a 1A?
that definitely bothered him…we may need to get becky publicly doubting him more…
I’m sure the Knicks played harder, which is why they sometimes win these regular season games they “shouldn’t win.”
My thesis, amply supported, is that that “play harder” advantage goes away entirely in the playoffs. (And that’s almost certainly a factor in the large discrepancy between Thibs’s regular season and playoff records.)
If anyone thinks Josh Hart and Quentin Grimes “outworked” the Miami Heat in last year’s playoff series, I’d recommend a rewatch (or a new set of prescription lenses).
I’m not a Little Engine that Could guy. Some people are. Those people can celebrate the sweat equity that went into winning last night’s game. Others of us are going to point out that nothing good is going to happen when it matters from Josh Hart playing 48 minutes and going 5 for 18. (Especially when the Little Engine that Could-ers get frisky.)
I don’t know if any of you follow the New York Times Pitchbot account – a satire of how the NY Times tends to put a negative spin on a bunch of things – but to me it’s the closest thing to E’s schtick.
could be. the biggest factor is probably most of Thibs playoff teams weren’t very good.
“My thesis, amply regurgitated ad infinitum, is that that “play harder” advantage goes away entirely in the playoffs. (And that’s almost certainly a factor in the insignificant discrepancy between how the Knicks fared against the Miami Heat last year and how the Bucks and Celts fared against them.
If anyone thinks Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown “outworked” the Miami Heat in last year’s playoff series, I’d recommend a rewatch (or a new set of prescription lenses).”
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Throwing away this win because it is supposedly about effort, and not about skill, shows how closely you watched the game.
All this effort won’t translate in the playoffs, he says: https://x.com/KnickFilmSkool/status/1770136489143198200
I actually don’t really put a lot of stock in association regular season “effort wins.” The association is far too brutally efficient for me to get giddy over them. Guilty as charged. I’m fine if others are into them.
“I’m not a give a shit that I repeat myself to the point where it makes people want to vomit guy. Some people are. Those people can celebrate a nice regular season road win over a tough opponent despite being shorthanded. Others of us are going to be the annoying douchbags we always are, no matter what feedback we get from the preponderance of posters on the site.”
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Cleveland couldn’t seem to match the Knicks effort in the playoffs last year.
watching a bit of the hot ones and I did not realize josh hart ate so many mike and ike’s
We won because Brunson & iHart were the best players on the court. Hart & Deuce happened to show a lot of hustle, and players who hustle will always be appropriately lauded. Yet Hart was arguably a detriment with his poor shooting overshadowing his secondary numbers, which are less impressive given he took 48min to accumulate them. Hart’s real value was simply keeping the Detroit Bad Boys off the court.
The gap in talent was apparent when iHart entered the game and when GS couldn’t figure out how to stop Brunson. It was readily apparent to anyone who watched the game and should also be easily discernible to anyone who checks the boxscore.
Even with Deuce, the game showcased his defensive prowess and shooting ability more than his hustle. If anything, playing 47min diminished his effectiveness.
You can rail against hustle bunnies all you like, but last night was a victory indebted to talent.
Here’s a tough question: do we root for Miami tonight or for Cleveland?
Do you want more leeway to ascend in seeding or to avoid the playin?
I have loved this blog for years, mostly as a reader. But sometimes the overall negativity, name calling and mean spiritedness is making it tough to read and enjoy the comments/blog.
There is a difference between analyzing and critiquing, and complaining, attacking and being overly negative.
We should be celebrating big and fun wins like the last few games, but instead you would think we are commenting on a team that is in the lottery versus one fighting for home court advantage in the playoffs.
“Here’s a tough question: do we root for Miami tonight or for Cleveland?”
Seems obvious to me: We root for Miami (as vomit-inducing as that might sound). They are much less of a threat to us right now than Cleveland is.
We want Hornets over Magic, Rockets over Wizards, Pelicans over Nets, and Spurs over Mavericks (maybe not?), and we don’t care about Wolves/Nuggets.
Miami is pretty far back and there’s several other teams between us. I’d shoot for 3rd place to dodge the Celtics if we make the 2nd round. Butler missed last game and if he’s less than 100% Miami will struggle to catch us anyway.
Oh, so a completely different claim than the straw man you addressed? How surprising!
Assigning some playoff value to something like a breakout game from Deuce on the road vs. an all-time great PG while playing wire-to-wire is very different from the claim that we should replicate these exact circumstances for him in the playoff.
The performance yesterday DOES bode well, yes, for what Deuce can contribute this postseason in his regular role. If he’s not in his regular role and playing 47m because all our guys are hurt, there’s really very little point in you crowing that we’ll be totally fucked — everyone here knows that already!
Mitchell is out a few games, definitely root for Miami to beat them tomorrow. 3rd seed is still a strong possibility for the Knicks although annoyingly Orlando has just as strong a chance.
Don’t think we show enough appreciation to Leon. I myself and most thought that he should wait till end of this season to make any trades after last year’s success and didn’t seee the value of the DDV signing.
OG was literaly the best fit player in the league that he needed to get and Leon though CAA delivered him while keeping all 1st round picks. Extended Deuce for peanuts and bet on him excelling as a two way back up role. Its been a VERY LONG TIME since we entered playoffs as a team that is poised to make a deep run.
Is Leon being considered for the executive of the year award? – He should!
I imagine Brad Stevens is going to run away with executive of the year, which is disugsting but not unjustified.
Thanks for the recap, EB. Too bad i missed this game, it seems like it was a lot of fun. 🙂
What i was going to ask, DRed, said right away… Who the hell is Trayce Jackson-Davis? 😀
And also this… “Burks wasn’t good but looked under control with the ball in his hands and didn’t look completely washed out there.” …you mean there’s still hope? I’ve kept the boat ready to go back to Burks island! 😉
They have a real chance to still hit 50 wins. They only need to go 9-5. That’s very doable. It’d be awesome if they went 12-2, so that my win prediction would win!
Easily?
#53Wins, Brian!
I just want us to roll into the playoffs with OG reasonably healthy. If we have Julius and/or Mitch back, that’s a great bonus. But man have these guys been balling out while the whole frontcourt’s been on the shelf. It’s so much fun!
Cyber, I think EB was being kind. Burks didn’t throw passes to the other team or into the stands, as per usual (and per Bogey), but he was 1-5 from the field. He was bad, but not a complete embarrassment is all.
Taking a deep breath, and now running a rare victory lap, over my unbreakable bromance over Deuce. I think a big difference between him and Frank (who I also had some hope for, taking the L), and that kept me on Miles Island, was that Deuce lit it up in Summer League and destroyed games in the G League. He could clearly shoot.
I think what hurt him was his lack of confidence and his use — coming in with two minutes left in a game, he’d get one chance to hoist a three, often helter-skelter as end-of-game play tends to get, especially in blowouts in either direction. So those 0-fer-ones kept piling up.
Now with more playing time, and more confidence, he’s showing out.
Although his defense has always been an absolute delight, regardless.
I’m with you. And i say more, the blog was more funny when we were bad than it is now, as people seem to come the next day to settle some score with another poster and that is very annoying. I skip a lot more comments now, than i did when we were a lottery team.
Cyber, you know I think that you are the man so I’ll try harder to do my part. As it has turned out, someone seems to always say what I’m feeling anyway.
We should probably talk more about how helpful the sudden and unexpected change in the way the league is being officiated can be. Anything that makes basketball closer what it was in the 90s is bound to help a physical team like us. We seem to be cognizant of it, too. Our defense against Sabonis the other night looked like something Anthony Mason would have been proud of.
While this game and the Cleveland game were huge edge cases in terms of minutes, I don’t think it’s a coincidence Deuce played so well in both of them. Some guys can come in and out of a game and contribute meaningfully in short spurts, where, at least eye test-wise, Deuce seems to do better in longer stints. Whether that’s a confidence thing — unlike Grimes early this season, he knows he’s not going to get a quick hook, and thus can just play his game — or simply that he needs a lot of game reps to get and stay going (akin to a running back who needs a lot of carries), I can’t say. And there are still teams who will be able to defensively neutralize him, because his ballhandling isn’t at the same level as his shooting. But I’m delighted that he has turned out to be a real two-way player.
Had the same thought. Which is why I’m still not reading E. I don’t like skimming the blog, but that’s what it has to be when E’s here trolling away. I can’t believe you mooks keep falling for it.
Raven, I’m with Hubert on your predictions: Mitch will be useful this year, if in limited minutes. Unfortunately, I’m with you both when I express doubt that Julius will contribute. I would rather he not come back than come back and play poorly in significant minutes.
“Easily” in the sense that I don’t think they’d even be big underdogs for making the conference finals at this point, if OG is healthy.
Since this offseason is OG’s first chance to get a bag, wouldn’t you think he would want to take more time to return, to make sure he doesn’t seriously hurt himself before he gets said bag?
I think the CAA bond is strong enough that OG knows he is getting his bag no matter what (barring a career ending injury, which is not likely anyway).
That’s the spirit! 😉
I think without Randle, even with healthy OG, the conference finals is kind of a stretch. I’d still put us behind The Bucks after the Celtics.
I don’t know what to make of Randle. But I’ve got a feeling that he’ll be limited or won’t play and this might be the end of his time here. Because he will still be on a good contract and is a 3 time all-star, so I could see him being an attractive piece for a team trading away a star player and pivoting towards a full tank/rebuild. Like you get Randle and a bunch of picks. But Randle gets surgery in the summer and won’t be back for 6 months, so you get a built in reason/excuse to tank for a season to get that high lottery pick. Then go into the following season with your lottery pick, a motivated Randle with very little time left on his contract and all those future picks.
The Bucks or Nets might like that.
E’s shtick can get tiresome because there’s so much “I told you so” built into it. If the Knicks don’t win a championship, then hey, E was right about everything! Hustlebunny narrative vindicated. If we had only fired Tom Thibodeau, kept RJ Barrett and Cam Reddish, and acquired Dejounte Murray, we’d have won that chip but alas nobody listens to E.
These aren’t really bold statements he’s making here. The Knicks probably won’t win a title this year, and whenever the Knicks are eliminated, we will hear that it vindicated his narrative, even if it’s by the Celtics in the Conference Finals. And no, that is not a very fun shtick to have to read all the time.
Well, if we finish where we are (4th) we’ll get the Celtics in the 2nd round, and like you i have a feeling we can do it, but i think we’d be the underdog.
Now that would be something… the Celtics kind of feel like the east will be easy and are only thinking about who they get in the finals, so it’d be awesome to knock them out in the 2nd round! 🙂
Pretty much this. If he was generally playing well we might chalk it up to a bad shooting night. Instead of losing the ball after 2 dribbles he was able to take his time, manipulate the defense a bit, and get to some spots he seemingly wanted to get to. He missed those shots, but the process looked much better.
It’s little solace until he actually makes shots, but it’s something you could wishcast on.
The Celtics are far and away the best team in the NBA so far this year. There are some star heavier teams that could probably give them problems, but I don’t see how they’re not the favorite. Maybe Denver, but Denver is going to have a tougher path to the finals probably.
With OG and Randle maybe we could give them a fright, but we’d need Randle healthy and for playoff Randle to not be a real thing.
Alan, largely agree on Deuce, except one thing — he’s been delivering right out of the gate lately. And also as soon as he’s subbed back in. It feels a bit like he’s gotten confident enough that it doesn’t matter if he’s playing two five-minute spurts or one 47-minute one.
Time will tell, especially when he slips back into a lesser role, but I think he may have turned something of a corner.
On Boston, it just feels as though basically everything has gone right for them this season. They get one of the healthiest and certainly best full season in KP’s career; they get a healthy and great shooting season from Jrue (who will soon have played more minutes since he was in New Orleans); Derrick White makes a leap; Horford gets the best shooting season of his career at 37.
I mean, at some point something has to go wrong, no?
It was last spring.
The main one is that Tom Thibodeau lowers the team’s playoff ceiling. There’s ample evidence of that. I’m not seeing any change in him. We’ll see how it goes. I’m certainly not going to dwell on it once the playoffs come and will shortly put it in storage altogether until the off-season. Hopefully the stubborn old coot will make me look like a raving fool.
Very winnable games coming up next week, especially if OG is ok and is back on the floor. Yes, we have a good chance to make it to 50+ wins, but we should not count our chicken before they hatch. This week is tricky and may provide plenty of food for our masochists to complain about. It is likely will lose in Denver on Thursday, though one should bet against this Knicks team at their own risk and peril. What is more worrisome is that Saturday’s matinée at the Garden starts only 36 hours later. The players will have to fly cross country overnight, land sleepless on Friday morning after having been away from home for almost two weeks and get ready to play on Saturday morning. We are the theoretical favorites against Brooklyn, but this will be very tricky game.
There is a good chance we get one of two this week, lower chance we win both, and a not so small a chance we lose both games. Can you imagine what will be happening in this forum starting Saturday if we lose both games? 😂😂😂
Facts! – I’m thinking the same thing. Would love for them to play Miami and get physically roughed up before they meet us in the EC finals.
…after partying in NY all night long! 😀
The NBA integrating gambling into the league pass app seems like a pretty dumb idea
i’m with you on this director, donte and OG were too massive acquisitions for this season…
fair play and all though – jrue and kp were by far the best additions any team made this year…
Two things surprisingly not discussed this thread:
The minutes. I’m actually okay with Hart and Deuce logging so many; as someone astutely said above, Josh’s big job was keeping the Detroit Duo of Doom off the court. Plus Josh is clearly made of rubber, while Deuce is clearly made of steel. Jalen got 35 minutes, Donte 31. Those sound right.
The dunk. With eight seconds left, Deuce shatters the unspoken rule of not showing up the losers in the last seconds with a lovely dunk. Once again I’m okay with this — to me, the losers say when the game is over, and if they’re still working hard to score, the winners can keep playing, too. Klay sank a three-pointer with 14 seconds, Wiggins shot a three with 2 seconds left (and they fought for the rebound on that one, with one second left). So screw em.
excellent point hubie, which could be a huge factor in our seeding…the flip side though is that we’re unlikely to catch an opponent off-guard in the first round with our rough and rugged play…
that sems to be the norm at the moment…
and yeah, that one play where isaiah tackled sabonis by the rim and we got the ball, that was a little extreme in regards to swallowing the whistle…
i noticed that too, but it sort of seemed like the warriors were still trying to compete at the time, and may have tried to foul again…
i liked it, i liked it a lot…
The main one is that Tom Thibodeau lowers the team’s playoff ceiling. There’s ample evidence of that.
Please posit your ceiling prediction with Thibs and without Thibs. Up to you if you want to cite the ample evidence to back it up. But show some character.
After Bam “Illegal Screens” Adebayo gets through with them, they won’t have any ankles left
I don’t think the Dubs even noticed Deuce’s dunk. Klay had just made a 3 to put them within 5 and they were pressing. I don’t think you are obligated to run the clock out unless the opposing team concedes, which they clearly didn’t. On top of that, it wasn’t a showboating dunk, just a straight-up two-hander from a 6’1″ kid.
If anything, I think the Warriors left the floor with a ton of respect for Deuce, or at least they should have. He torched them but didn’t engage in any trash talk or gesticulating, just quietly took care of business.
it was nice having the kids on the team…deuce though seems ready for regular rotation duty (no matter what team he played for)…pretty sure jericho isn’t coming back next season…
hopefully we pick up at least 2 rooks this off-season…
Close but not exactly. That attribute that made Frank enticing as a defender was his length. His length was a positive attribute for defending passing lanes. He could also switch and guard 1 through 4. The one thing he had trouble with was staying in front of the super quick PGs, but he usually recovered enough to at least cause an uncomfortable shot. Alas, he was a walking injury and never developed an offense.
I’ve been a successful gambler over my lifetime but I still think gambling should be discouraged. It’s one thing to think it should be legal because it’s popular and if it were illegal, gangsters would run it. It’s another to encourage it and ruin millions of lives, marriages etc… It’s even worse when government encourages it with lotteries.
Unquestionably, as was I-Hart, Grimes (Detroit’s problem now), Mitch, and even RJ (Toronto’s problem now).
It’s not a matter of whether they are handling injuries competently. We know they aren’t. It’s a matter of who you want to blame.
IMO it’s not “the minutes” that matters most. It’s that most players get a little banged up as the season progresses. If you don’t give these injuries a chance to heal properly, they can recur or spiral into something worse. That’s where either the medical team, Thibs or the environment Thib’s has created is causing problems. We have been incredibly lucky that J-Hart hasn’t also broken down yet. He’s on record saying he’s playing with a knee issue that will have to be managed, yet he’s playing a ridiculous number of minutes. Thibs is practically begging for him to break down, but so far so good. Randle was really the only injury that was just bad luck. The rest have been bad luck that was also mishandled and that probably made matters worse.
EB, good recap but I really loved the per 36 joke in the game thread.
I was never a Thibs guy and I still worry about him overplaying guys but you have to hand it to him. This team comes hard every night and never gives up. He’s a good coach.
Randle being out for the year sucks but it’s strange because I doubt we’d be better with him back if OG and Mitch are healthy.
That Ant slam last night was a pretty perfect dunk. I gasped.
It’s funny Owen, I was thinking the same thing about Randle. With everyone else on the roster at 100% health, how much would he really add? We don’t miss his defense (or lack thereof) and the ball movement is definitely better.
And to be clear this is not a knock on Randle, it’s just that we’ve seen what this team can be with a healthy OG and I’m not sure how much Randle raises our ceiling in the post season.
I think our floor is higher without Randle because, well, we’ve seen him put up some legendary stinkers. There aren’t any other high usage, sub .500 TS% over a full playoff series candidates on the team.
But I think our ceiling is obviously lower without him. We’re talking about a guy who put up 25-9-5 with a 59% TS% after the first six games this year–we have no way of replicating that with a redistribution approach IMO unless we just get insanely hot from 3.
The Randle related playoff outcomes ranked are:
1. Good Randle
2. No Randle
3. Bad Randle
Was our starting lineup yesterday the Thibideau version of the death lineup?
read the arguments carefully and decided I am rooting for Miami and Cleveland to tie
This sounds about right.
You’re welcome 😉
I was a Frank stan, and OG is what I hoped he’d be.
Re: the ranking of Good Randle, No Randle, Bad Randle, in that order…….ummmmmmm…….isn’t that how we’d rank anybody on our roster?
The Knicks most definitely need a healthy Randle, this shouldn’t even be debatable.
No, because the “bad” versions of Brunson and OG are still better than any alternatives. The bad version of Randle might be worse than any alternatives.
How can you not love Deuce
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And yeah, it shouldn’t hurt to have Randle back. But the vibes were pretty immaculate for a while there.
“No, because the “bad” versions of Brunson and OG are still better than any alternatives. The bad version of Randle might be worse than any alternatives.”
Totally fair, TNFH. I had been thinking about that since I posted it and was beginning to think along those lines, but you clarified it better than I did in my mind. Thank you.
watching nbatv’s pregame for nuggets/wolves…good to see taylor rooks is doing player interviews for them…
good just to see taylor rooks 😊
Who would you rather have at the 4 next season: Randle or KAT (minus several picks that we’d be sending MIN)?
We do all remember that Randle was a pretty huge part of the success in January, he played in every game of the 12-2 stretch.
“Who would you rather have at the 4 next season: Randle or KAT (minus several picks that we’d be sending MIN)?”
I’m thinking Randle. Nothing against KAT—I think he’s a good guy—but they’re pretty close, and that being the case, I’d rather stick with “our” guy.
Taylor Rooks isn’t my type. I prefer my girlfriend. 🙂
I lean towards Randle + picks > KAT, but Brunson operating in more space, which KAT can provide, is very appealing.
awwwwww doogie, as you should brother, as you should…
there was some recent article, cnn I think, where they detailed that folks with partners generally experienced more happiness/fulfillment in their life…
I believe that…
when I hit 50 or so I remember doing some research on how to best age “successfully”…
the usual: sleep, diet, body movement, mental growth came up frequently…one other thing that was continually cited: social support from others…
a sense of belonging I guess…
I’m still speaking with my friend about relocating out here with me…we’ve known one another since ’91, so we’re as family now…
the discussion has been going on for a while now…I’m just needing to be patient…
I think I’m ready now…I hope so at least…
it was funny, the first year or so it was discussed, I was kind of grateful for the extra time to prepare my home and kids…
I think my longest romantic relationship ever was about 2 years…it’s always been a challenge for me to stay connected with folks…some of the health stuff going on has made it a bit challenging for me…
It’s always a work in progress, Geo.
And to answer your question, two cups of coffee and two grapes.
My favorite meal is big greasy breakfasts. But I tend to keep them to one or two a month. Sunday eggs benedicts out with the lad, that sort of thing. I find I’m quicker and smarter when I’m hungry. I don’t struggle with blood sugar bonks or any kind of hangry issues, so a little edge can work wonders.
very cool raven 🙂
I’m trying hard now to curtail my “cheat” days…
it’s funny, there seem to be a lot of those during the week…
that makes sense, particularly if you’re not overly indulgent with life in general…you seem pretty on task mostly, and it’s good to keep an edge…
starting to hit that phase though where my appetite has changed and I need to be mindful to make sure I eat…
I oft just do the glucerna stuff now…
it kind of sounds like you may not be all that in to cooking yourself…
one of the things I’ve enjoyed about not working is the time I can spend on food preparation, that didn’t really happen before…or, at least I didn’t take the time for it…
so now when I do make a meal it’s usually pretty good…
most of that happens when the boys come over on the weekend – cooking and cleaning…
I like that, it’s a pretty easy/quick way to get a little parenting affirmation…
i have fed the kids – job done well 😊
Feels like OG has proven his worth to both Leon and the rest of the league, – so he has no incentive to play with soreness and risk going on a shooting slump right before his pay day. He shot airballs vs Kings and it didnt look good at all. OG is likely having to weigh this in his formula of returning. I would probably take the cautios approach myself, – if I was in his position.
Think he’s going into year 8. What is the maximum he can earn in NY vs other teams? What’s fair compenastion vs. overpay?