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Knicks Morning News (2023.03.16)

  • Knicks’ Miles McBride is making the most of a timely opportunity – The Athletic
    [news.google.com] — Thursday, March 16, 2023 5:19:45 AM

    Knicks’ Miles McBride is making the most of a timely opportunity  The Athletic

  • Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson appears to be unhappy with role ? again – New York Post
    [news.google.com] — Thursday, March 16, 2023 3:54:00 AM

    Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson appears to be unhappy with role ? again  New York Post Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson on Snapchat: ‘Tired Asf of Just Being out There for Cardio’  Bleacher ReportMitchell Robinson Unhappy About Role With Knicks  RealGM.com

  • Knicks return home after positive 2-2 road trip – New York … – Amsterdam News
    [news.google.com] — Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:00:00 AM

    Knicks return home after positive 2-2 road trip – New York …  Amsterdam News

  • Josh Hart on Knicks splitting road trip while Jalen Brunson nurses foot injury: ‘We’ll take it’ – Boston Herald
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 11:08:26 PM

    Josh Hart on Knicks splitting road trip while Jalen Brunson nurses foot injury: ‘We’ll take it’  Boston Herald

  • Mitchell Robinson gripes about his role with Knicks on Snapchat: ‘Tired of just being out there for cardio’ – CBS Sports
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 6:40:57 PM

    Mitchell Robinson gripes about his role with Knicks on Snapchat: ‘Tired of just being out there for cardio’  CBS Sports

  • Knicks keeping injured Jalen Brunson sidelined is another sign of progress – Daily Knicks
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 5:00:00 PM

    Knicks keeping injured Jalen Brunson sidelined is another sign of progress  Daily Knicks

  • NBA Rumors: Knicks Get Hawks’ Onyeka Onkongwu In This Trade – NBA Analysis Network
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 4:58:06 PM

    NBA Rumors: Knicks Get Hawks’ Onyeka Onkongwu In This Trade  NBA Analysis Network

  • Six Knicks Among Top 125 NBA Players List – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 4:51:13 PM

    Six Knicks Among Top 125 NBA Players List  Sports Illustrated

  • Julius Randle is the ‘foundation’ of the resurgent New York Knicks – NBC Sports
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 3:25:53 PM

    Julius Randle is the ‘foundation’ of the resurgent New York Knicks  NBC Sports

  • Knicks: 3 best NBA Draft prospects to watch in 2023 NCAA Tournament – ClutchPoints
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 2:41:55 PM

    Knicks: 3 best NBA Draft prospects to watch in 2023 NCAA Tournament  ClutchPoints

  • Knicks’ Center Frustrated With Current Role – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 2:05:55 PM

    Knicks’ Center Frustrated With Current Role  Sports Illustrated

  • A Bigfoot with a beanie is the Portland Trail Blazers’ 2nd mascot – Oregon Public Broadcasting
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 1:10:57 PM

    A Bigfoot with a beanie is the Portland Trail Blazers’ 2nd mascot  Oregon Public Broadcasting

  • It’s Unsettling How Good the Knicks Are This Season – New York Magazine
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 11:25:46 AM

    It’s Unsettling How Good the Knicks Are This Season  New York Magazine

  • Immanuel Quickley and Josh Hart Are Earning Their Next Deals – The Knicks Wall
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 10:21:59 AM

    Immanuel Quickley and Josh Hart Are Earning Their Next Deals  The Knicks Wall

  • Knicks’ Kristaps Porzingis trade is the gift that keeps on giving – Daily Knicks
    [news.google.com] — Wednesday, March 15, 2023 10:00:00 AM

    Knicks’ Kristaps Porzingis trade is the gift that keeps on giving  Daily Knicks

  • 65 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2023.03.16)”

    Feel really bad for Mets fans. Non-contact injuries always suck, but these circumstances are especially tough.

    Agreed. Feel bad for WBC fans too because this is the worst case scenario for them also.

    Just re-watched the Knicks Portland game and was thrilled, then Diaz! Wow. What a huge bummer for him and all of us Mets fans. Hope he is OK.

    Feel bad for WBC fans too because this is the worst case scenario for them also.

    I also imagine that this is going to make MLB teams even more reluctant to let their players play in the next WBC. Yes, it’s a fluke injury, and could have happened as easily in a regular game, this becomes an easy way to argue, “We are paying you millions of dollars, and we cannot risk your health for an unrelated exhibition tournament.”

    Absolutely. As I think I said in the last thread, the Japan Korea game was the most watched baseball game since 1980. It’s great for the sport.

    The PR v DR game was absolutely electric too.

    It’s a shame. Basketball players all play internationally every year. So do soccer players. So it shouldn’t be impossible.

    But the lol Mets feeling is pretty strong right now.

    The Yankees have a bunch of spring training injuries. Should the owners cancel that too?

    The players and the non American fans seem to love the WBC

    DRed, I’m not saying the WBC should be canceled, by any means. Just that the owners are almost certainly gonna try after this.

    It seems shortsighted to me. Baseball needs all the viewer interest it can gin up. And the players clearly love it.

    It was a freak injury. Can’t really blame it on the WBC. Really sucks, though.

    Yes, I have to admit now, I am Fred Katz (no I’m not, I see you out there Fred, just kidding…).

    I wasn’t criticizing anyone here, just saying the owners would be shortsighted. anything that gets more people invested in baseball is good for mlb.

    Saw someone on twitter talking about RJ improving his drives and it was based on the last 5 games in which we’ve played one game against a team with a big man who can protect the rim.

    I mean it’s definitely good RJ has scored well against those teams, don’t get me wrong. But that’s the easy part. Do it against the T-Wolves.

    Good article. Deuce is definitely a ton of fun, and might just be a bit good? Probably not, but it’s hard to quit him.

    At a minimum, he should make us all feel dumb for spilling so much digital ink over Frank Ntilikina.

    I’ve long wondered about MLB players getting hurt with all the post-game jumping around that happens after every win. Sometimes the jumping gets pretty extreme, so every once in a while someone’s gonna wreck a knee or ankle.

    Hopefully Diaz is not as badly hurt as suspected. Even so, maybe just go back to high fives?

    The WBC has generated something MLB hasn’t really been able to muster for a while: genuine, widespread excitement about baseball being played.

    It feels like interest in the MLB has basically been whittled down to lifers such as myself. What happened to Diaz is awful, but as others have said it would be incredibly shortsighted to respond by basically pulling the plug on the WBC.

    They should try to figure out how they can tap into what is clearly a potentially robust international market for the sport. I don’t have all the answers here–international expansion is, uh, not easy–but at a minimum there should be MLB affiliated minor league teams across Asia and South America. Seems like the future for the MLB, if there is one, is to become a genuinely international league.

    Baseball is easily the thirstiest sport when it comes to trying to appeal to fans. We gotta make every team a playoff team! No, we need a baseball World Cup! No, the games need to be shorter! Pitch clock! Make the bases bigger! I’m not really against all of these changes, but it does reek of desperation a little bit.

    A salary floor would probably be the best thing MLB could do to bring some fans back, because at least 1/3 of the league isn’t even pretending to put a quality product on the field. Why bother to watch baseball if you’re a Miami Marlins fan? The owner is just out to pocket revenue sharing money, and when any of your players gets good, they get traded instead of getting paid. Baseball is dead in South Florida, and a pitch clock and some exhibition games between nations isn’t gonna fix that. And the Marlins aren’t the only team that just exists to cash the revenue sharing checks.

    Baseball makes these all cosmetic attempts to “fix” a game that isn’t broken and doesn’t address the real reason that a lot of fans have tuned out.

    Yeah, I’m not sure pulling the WBC is a solution. A couple of guys did grab Diaz right after the game and start the circle jerk jumping stuff, but I’ve seen far more “violent” celebrations many times after regular season Mets wins. It seems like sort of a Russian Roulette thing.

    I did read awhile ago about some players saying that the WBC should be moved to a different time of the year, but I didn’t read on to see when.

    Maybe there’s some issue with playing in “high leverage” games during pro season training camp? Does it make injuries more likely? Dunno.

    “Good article. Deuce is definitely a ton of fun, and might just be a bit good? Probably not, but it’s hard to quit him.

    At a minimum, he should make us all feel dumb for spilling so much digital ink over Frank Ntilikina.”

    I think they are way different.

    Deuce is quicker. He’s better and more disruptive with on ball defense. He also has a more developed and mature psyche.

    Frank is taller, longer, can guard 3 and occasionally 4 positions and uses his length to disrupt passing lanes and shots, but he’s a walking injury and emotional basket case.

    IMO Frank had more upside if he could have stayed healthy, learned to shoot the 3 consistently, and gained some confidence, but he did none of the 3.

    Deuce just has to get better from 3 and maybe improve his play making a tad and he has role off the bench. He’s ready to compete and so far has had no chromic injury issues hindering his development.

    We need another PG off the bench. I’d rather it be Deuce than go searching and paying for one.

    Strat, did it ever occur to you that Ntilikina’s lack of confidence stems from the fact that he is simply not very good at basketball, and that he knows he is not really very good? It’s hard to exude lots of confidence when you’re not very good at dribbling or shooting or passing, and when getting skinny through screens is your calling card skill.

    It’s a bit of a chicken and egg kind of question I guess, but to me it seems pretty obvious that a lack of talent is Frenchy’s main problem.

    Baseball was THE sport for my generation. I think it’s too slow and the season too long for many young people now unless it’s a very meaningful game late in the season or the playoffs/World Series where the tension remains high with every pitch.

    I’ve been stanning for Deuce since we drafted him but have been utterly disappointed that his shooting hasn’t translated, at least until now! He shot well at every level below the NBA, and while his form is a bit wonky, it doesn’t seem broken and one would think it should eventually work on spot-ups just as well up here as elsewhere. He also has a rudimentary pull-up game that hasn’t translated and that shot isn’t in vogue anyway.
    Maybe some of that stuff will come around and if it does he’s a very valuable bench piece, possibly a good injury replacement for a starter in long regular season stretches. Maybe he’ll top out as a Jevon Carter clone…a smallish low usage but reasonably efficient combo guard who can hound at the point of attack and make limited opportunistic plays on offense. It’s pretty cool that Carter has been a mainstay in the Bucks’ rotation this year…1500 minutes, 22mpg. I think Deuce can be a lot better than Carter…but that might be my irrational love talking!

    Are any of those Marlins fans going to be coming to games in June to watch Avisail Garcia and Joey Wendle pretend to be major league starters because there was an exciting exhibition game in March, and because there’s a pitch clock so the Marlins can lose faster?

    “Strat, did it ever occur to you that Ntilikina’s lack of confidence stems from the fact that he is simply not very good at basketball, and that he knows he is not really very good?”

    I think you described it perfectly.

    It’s a chicken and egg situation. One leads to the other in a positive feedback loop.

    But I also think we are all born wired differently.

    I was blessed in some ways but I was also born shy, timid, with a bad nervous system, and low confidence. I get rattled easily and can spiral down quickly if things aren’t going well. I have to fight my nerves and mind to try to overcome it. I know plenty of people less blessed than me in some ways that achieved way more because they were wired way better.

    I think you are 100% correct in your observation about Frank’s lack of skills leading to lower confidence, but I think he’s wired poorly too for a professional athlete. At 24, he’s still mentally a rookie.

    Strat I think what actually happened was you thought a guy was good but it turned out he sucks. It’s okay, it has happened to literally everyone on the board (I mean you held onto the dream longer than anyone else but who among us hasn’t doubled down), but every now and then you gotta just take the L.

    Frank never had more upside than Deuce or almost anyone else in the NBA, and his problem wasn’t confidence–no amount of confidence can make up for a total dearth of NBA skills.

    The problem with Frank wasn’t that he didn’t try to do more stuff on an NBA court, it was that he can’t do shit on an NBA court.

    I was served papers in a lawsuit. And my wife got a recommendation from the firm who represented her. I went to the meeting in his big office and he told me this joke. An engineer died and had awoke in hell. After taking stock of the situation he requested a meeting with the boss. When he appeared before the devil, the devil laughed at him. Hot enough for you? The engineer replied, “this place is quite a dump”. But I’ve been studying the situation, and if you let me help you I think we can turn things around. So the devil agreed. Some time much later, god called up to gloat. He led of with the classic “hot enough for you?” And the devil replied, actually it’s quite pleasant. Thar engineer you sent me installed climate control and really cleaned the place up. God said that’s odd, you don’t usually get engineers. And he quickly called the stats angel. then he call’s the devil back and said there’s been a mistake and I want you to send him up here. The devil said, no way, finders keepers. God got angry and said I’m going to sue you. At which point devil started laughing, OK where you going to get a lawyer?
    So I said will you take my case? And he said no, I feel for you, but you don’t have enough money. So your advise is? Turn it into your insurance company. I did, they hired him, he made the person suing look like a fool.

    “Strat, did it ever occur to you that Ntilikina’s lack of confidence stems from the fact that he is simply not very good at basketball, and that he knows he is not really very good?”

    Now compare that to Cam Reddish…

    ***I was also born shy, timid, with a bad nervous system, and low confidence.***

    Nobody who is shy, timid, unconfident, or endowed with a bad nervous system would even TRY to argue that Phil Jackson was a good GM, especially not against the likes of TNFH, JK47, and the Honorable Cock Jowles.

    “IMO Frank had more upside”

    Not to rag on you but this is all based on Frank’s measurements and to me, shows one of the biggest flaws a lot of scouts have with prospects. If a player has measurements like Frank then people salivate over the “upside” that he could guard 3 or 4 positions, etc. While Deuce gets pinged and lowered on the prospect list because he’s only 6′ 1″. But all you have to do is see McBride play on defense to notice how disruptive he can be. Sure, if you’re shorter like McBride taller players can shoot over you. But if you know positioning, passing lanes, are good at getting steals, have hops and can block shots occasionally, etc…your height is not going to matter at all. There are countless examples over the years of players who play way bigger than their size and big dudes who are soft and play small.

    Also amid all of this baseball exhibition shit, are any of you aware that Indian Wells, the “5th Slam,” is happening right now and Carlos Alcaraz is really, really good at tennis

    I am very aware of what Carlitos is doing in that pink shirt

    Brador – Going to have to let that marinate but I am pro-engineer

    I remember the first time I saw Frank and thought, man, he really can’t dribble very well but I like the defense. I don’t think anything has changed since then.

    So Edwin Diaz had a patellar tendon tear. Will miss the season.

    Anybody have any idea whether a full recovery is likely, and how this might affect him long term?

    Nike and Adidas have been mailing it in for years. You go back and see Roger’s insanely good Australian Open and IW/Miami outfits and then compare them to the neural-net bullshit they’re putting on this generation of new stars… no wonder these guys can’t win shit against Djokovic (who is still supremely good at tennis and dressed very sharp in Lacoste) and Nadal (who pulls off neon better than any athlete I’ve seen). Did you see the collars from last year’s USO? How are they supposed to be confident out there? Carlos nearly botched his title with that overhead dump into the net at 40-15 match point. I blame the kit.

    Felix Auger-Aliassime deserves better than the shitstain clothes they put him in last year. And whatever the fuck they did this year, too.

    https://www.adidas.com/us/melbourne-tennis-heat.rdy-freelift-polo-shirt/HT7215.html

    Carlitos pulls off the uninspired Nike collection because he’s basically an underwear model playing tennis (which Calvin Klein quickly realized and paid him handsomely to be)

    They ought to dress Carlitos like the all time great he is. It’s embarrassing.

    Sucks about Edwin. Worst case. No idea what it means other than that Uncle Stevie is going to be writing another check at some point.

    I will watch the tourney but they are so bad. It’s awful. Watching Purdue and Edey really brought that home for me recently.

    The Mets will probably muddle along with the guys they have now then make a move at the deadline. They have a prospect who is surging in value (Ronny Mauricio) but who is blocked at his plausible positions by better players, and who has Alfonso Soriano/Javy Baez style plate discipline anyway, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s moved for a closer near the trade deadline.

    The Knicks are on the verge of relevance in mid-March and instead you all are talking about a baseball tournament that I’ve never heard of, a tennis tournament I’ve never heard of, and a college basketball tournament I’ve only heard of because my mom still makes me full out brackets for it even though I haven’t watched it since Keith Lee’s Memphis State stagers played Wayman Tisdale’s Sooners.

    Go Knicks?

    This is what happens when the Knicks are too good. One has to find other stuff to complain about

    ***Public Service Announcements to all KnickerBloggers***

    now – this is the way to start a post:

    I was served papers in a lawsuit.

    feed us more of that good stuff Brador – feed me…

    Donnie, we’ve got a long wait between games, so less Knicks-y stuff than usual at mid-week.

    But in other Association news:

    @wojespn
    Atlanta Hawks F Bogdan Bogdanovic has agreed on a four-year, $68 million contract extension, sources tell ESPN.

    And in still more non-Knicks Knews:

    @ShamsCharania
    Chicago Bulls guard Lonzo Ball will undergo a third surgery on his left knee that is expected to cost him most, if not all, of the 2023-24 season.

    The sides are optimistic of the procedure reviving Ball’s career.

    I know Mets fans are bummed because Diaz was both a good player and a very fun one to root for, but he’s just a closer, and even a good closer is not really that valuable over the season. They also have an insane rich owner willing to spend enormous amounts of money and they will have chances to get another good closer from a lesser team during the season.

    “Now compare that to Cam Reddish…”

    Yes.

    I could see Frank’s lack of skill on offense early on the same as everyone else. The stats and what you saw on the court screamed it. But when we have these discussions we are trying to project the kind of player someone can become based on the skills he has at present, what he has to add, and how hard it will be to add.

    Cam illustrates the point I am trying to make about wiring in development in the opposite direction.

    Cam sucks in the present (and past). We could all see that all along, but Cam’s development or success will never be held back by a lack of confidence. He thinks he’s a star now. 🙂 He’s so over the top delusional about his own ability it probably translates into other problems.

    On the path to progress, you learn things about the player’s personality and wiring that are part of his development. At this stage, I’m still pretty sure RJ has a mamba mentality with a garter snake skillset. We all see the stats, but it’s his mentality and wiring that’s part of what’s hurting his productivity in the present.

    “Not to rag on you but this is all based on Frank’s measurements and to me, shows one of the biggest flaws a lot of scouts have with prospects.”

    I agree that measurements can be overrated, but imo Frank was already having a positive impact on defense and defending multiple positions while in NY. He had games just like Deuce where the game turned just based on his defense. He had games like that last year for Dallas in the playoffs.

    If you are in your early 20s and already a mildly plus switchable defender, you don’t have far to go to become a Reggie Bullock. That’s a useful role. Anything above that is gravy.

    Deuce has a different kind of defensive skillset, but similarly needs to get more consistent on offense. He doesn’t have to become a hugely plus offensive player to have a significant role. He just has to not be a liability on offense. Anything past that is gravy.

    ***Public Service Announcements to all KnickerBloggers***

    now – this is the way to start a post:

    I was served papers in a lawsuit.
    feed us more of that good stuff Brador – feed me…

    Back in late 2021 I got one of those “you may be entitled to an inheritance from a long lost relative who died without a will” letters and immediately threw it in the trash. My brother got the same letter and did not throw it out. He actually tracked down exactly who the relative was and convinced the rest of the family to hire a lawyer-the firm that sent the letter wanted 50% of any payout- and they put in a claim. It was a cousin of my father’s who was an only child and had kind of a messed up family life- multiple lawsuits with a step family he accused of taking his own inheritance etc… I kind of felt shitty about trying to get. money from the estate given I never met the guy but after zooming in on some of the trial it was obvious that no one involved was really close to him. The case finally settled and despite the fact that there were a total of about 30 claimants in all we’re all getting a nice chunk of change. I’ve already made plans to give away a lot of it but am saving some for a possible trip back to NYC and taking some friends to a playoff game.

    Luka and Kyrie back in practice. May the needle continue to be thread.

    Wizards’s playoff chances are dwindling according to Vegas, DraftKings have their implied odds of making it at 11%. It was about 30% a couple weeks ago.

    Dallas with a 74% chance to make the playoffs.

    Lonzo is getting a cartilage transplant in the bad knee. Seems like a hail Mary pass to preserve his career.

    Geez, at this point I’m honestly just hoping Lonzo can walk without pain again

    Since Princeton beat Arizona, it seems logical that Colgate will take out Texas, right?

    very interesting Nicos…that ties in to the notion/concept of “luck”…

    some folks are simply wired to be more opportunistic and socially open, which seems to equate to being “lucky”…

    *** Nets lost at home to the Kings.***

    What does that have to do with baseball?

    The Kings are good. I think Mike Brown learned something about running an interesting offense by being Steve Kerr’s assistant for six years. I expect them to make noise in the playoffs.

    Sabonis has also made a very impressive leap into the high 5 BPM level, it’s been a great story to watch. I thought the Kings made a mistake trading Haliburton but so far it really feels like a rare true win win for both teams.

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