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Grimes is out again. I’m getting Derrick Rose vibes from last year.
Cam is making the most of the opportunity. If he could reduce the dumb turnovers with that ridiculously high dribble of his, he might be earning himself a more-than-minimum next contract. His stats are a bit inflated by opening night vs. Memphis, but at least he’s not killing the team when he’s in there.
On the VW stuff from last thread, wow I didn’t know there were no protections on New Orleans swap rights with the Lakers. That is stunning.
As it pertains to the Knicks, though…
1) I gotta hand it to Leon for being restrained this summer. Distant future unprotected picks like the ones Utah and San Antonio were seeking are not something we should be trifling with giving away.
2) Distant future unprotected picks are definitely something we should be seeking to acquire, though! Especially from the Lakers. How desperate is that team going to be on December 15th if they’re at the bottom of the West and they don’t even have their picks? You can’t wait for Kyrie, bro. And no one player is gonna help them. They need 3-4 players, and I can only think of one team that has excess depth and needs to make a consolidation trade. If Leon can pull those picks from LA, he will get my vote for executive of the year.
3) It must be nice to go to work these day, eh CDiggy?
So we’re 3-1, the Nets and the Sixers are 1-4 and the Lakers are 0-4
I kind of want the season to end right now! (-:
Sorry, have to bring this up from the last thread.
I’ve never been to Sacramento or San Antonio, Indianapolis is a fine small city nothing special, but OKC is a dump. I was out there a few months ago and I hated every minute of it. Like, it might be worse than Cleveland and I fucking hate Cleveland.
Does that Lakers title in the bubble even count at this point? It’s more like a cup win in soccer.
Man, Luka highlights are insane. Ben Simmons, all-world defender, had no way to stop him. It’s a shame Dallas can’t build a real contender around him.
I remember the people from okc being super nice…oklahoma overall seemed to have nice folks in it…
the geography of the place though is not so spectacular…
Sorry, I was going for a little humor there. Been to most of those, all decent places, but I don’t think they would be on VW’s top 100 places to live. BTW, NBA just announced they are streaming all of VW’s games this season.
Simmons did make Luka look really really bad at the end of regulation by stripping him and feeding Durant. But otherwise, yes, Luka is incredible.
Mavs are a tough out when they hit 50%+ of their threes.
>It’s a shame Dallas can’t build a real contender around him.<
They built the best offense in NBA history. All they needed to do was add some 3&D players, change the coach, and maybe tweak Doncic's usage and shot selection a little but they took a step backwards on virtually every single move they made starting with Seth Curry.
Luka’s advanced stats line in B-R is truly ri-doncic-ulous. A TS% of .604 on a 42% usage with an AST% of 56.4?! How is that even possible?
And he’s not even hitting his 3’s!
Who is Jake Laravia? He is 6’8 and has started his career 9-15 from three. I feel like the Grizzlies just find these guys.
Keegan into the starting lineup but off to a slow start.
“Luka’s advanced stats line in B-R is truly ri-doncic-ulous. A TS% of .604 on a 42% usage with an AST% of 56.4?! ?”
They need better defense at starting C, a backup PG, and a 2nd option. They have 3 bad contracts (including our old friend THJr) and we have one of their picks. You almost have to be trying to screw up Doncic this badly.
Interesting. Most experts would say it started even before Seth Curry.
Interesting. Most experts would say it started even before Seth Curry.
I see what you did there. And I commend you!
A consolidation trade with the Lakers where we dump Fournier, Randle and Rose for Westbrook and their picks unprotected?
I mean….I get that this would probably be an incredibly shrewd move long term but seeing where we finally are right now it would make me incredibly sad. Like the team we have right now might be good. Or even pretty good this season. We don’t know, of course, but Randle is playing great. D Rose is the perfect back up. And while Fournier hasn’t been great, he is literally our only legit 3 point option in the rotation. And I know we would look to cut Westbrook. That’s not even the issue. And I know it would free up PT for Obi, which long term is good.
But we’d take a step back short term. And I kind of want to enjoy winning some basketball games this season.
I’m not saying don’t do it. I get why it would be such a wise move. But this team is deep and fun as hell to watch right now. I’d hate to lose that. And with RJ kind of struggling, I wonder what losing such a threat like Randle would do to his game? People say they can’t co-exist, but could RJ right now handle the bigger role? In a way he’s kind of protected right now and allowed to find his way for a bit because the team has both Brunson and Randle and so many options on the bench.
No point arguing about it til there’s any indication the Lakers are interested.
I think they should be, though. Rose, Randle, and one of our shooting guards can do far more for that team that just Hield and Turner. In one move they’d have a no-replacement-level-player starting lineup and take all the ballhandling work off LeBron til the spring.
If we lost Rose, Randle, and Fournier, I’d probably revise my win prediction down to 41 (from 44). I don’t think it’s that big a deal.
Our two best offensive players (Brunson and Mitch) barely have a 30% USG. We’d benefit by that going up. We have IQ, Obi, and Grimes (or Cam) ready to take over the minutes vacated by the vets.
We’d have to replace IQ & Obi’s current production with Deuce and someone from the waiver wire. That’s where a big dropoff would come in.
Jake LaRavia is one among many of the guys I hate only because I really liked him in the draft and of course the Grizzlies took him because that’s just what they do.
This Lakers talk overlaps with Mike K’s whole Julius conundrum from last season. On the one hand, if Julius is playing well enough for the Lakers to want him (along with some combo of Fournier, Rose, and Cam) to save their season, then our team is playing well enough that I can’t imagine Leon Rose being willing to blow it up for the sake of a future he may not see. And on the other hand, if the Knicks season gone into the toilet by the time the Lakers are ready to deal, then odds are we have seen the return of Bad Julius, and why would the Lakers give up one or two unprotected future firsts for that guy as a centerpiece?
The counter argument is that if you believe in Obi as a higher-ceilinged player than Julius, and/or just a better fit in that starting lineup, and if you also believe IQ can really play PG if given all the backup minutes there, then perhaps it’s both a short- and long-term win. I just do not believe that the coaching staff and/or the front office believes those two things.
We just have to hope Randle plays well for the length of his contract or, for some unfathomable reason, a team decides to take back Randle in a star trade.
Good point, EB. Randle as a key piece of a star trade is perhaps the only easy escape hatch if this administration is still in place for the life of the contract.
And I’m mostly enjoying Julius this season! There’s just a lot of risk with that deal given last season, and a lot of fit issues in general.
Why is it that all I ever read here are trades where we give away talent for draft picks? Really? We don’t want Westbrook and picks. We want to give LA kids and picks and take AD or LeBron’s contract off their hands. The Knicks as currently constituted are 1 or 2 superstars away from really contending.
Folks, it’s time to shed the loser mentality.
We’ll know a lot more about how Randle is going to perform and how far away we are from competing in the next 7 games.
Leon Rose isn’t going to do anything that subtracts wins from the current team in the name of stockpiling assets. Come on now everybody. This is like discussing what appetizer I’m going to be having on my dinner date with Jennifer Lawrence.
Ah, what a nice thread for me to wake up to the day b4 payday. Hold on lemme finish this coffee 😉
Sup Hubert… so to try to answer your ruminations… Laker fans (that I know) want no part of Julius Randle. I don’t think they’ve paid attn to him since he was traded to New Orleans, but he wasn’t a star went he left and he’s on the Knicks, so that’s all they care to know, lol. And they’re gonna hold on tight to both their 2020 titles (Lakers n Dodgers) like a baby to a binky – they won’t care that most of the world looks at those with an asterisk.
I’m torn in whether I think Laker fans know they’re fucked deep down. I feel like some of them don’t fully realize LeBron is, you know, old. But because someone always wants to don the purple n gold, I feel they think there’s always a trade out there that’ll get them back in the race. They don’t seem to care about draft picks right now. (Con’t)
A dinner date with Jennifer Lawrence, you say? I have definitely partied with her, so let me see if I can put in a good word: https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQ4xQDp-ne/
Jen if ur reading this, wyd?
“The Knicks as currently constituted are 1 or 2 superstars away from really contending.”
Shoud read “Every team in the NBA as cucurrently constituted are 1 or 2 superstars away from really contending.”
Mike K’s Randle conundrum pretty much goes away if RJ takes the leap (which is looking less likely than it did a month ago). If they both are playing well, they still don’t complement each other or to use Strat’s hero’s words, the roster is “clumsy”. Easier to justify moving Julius while not subtracting current wins.
Besides, the Lakers isn’t the team you really want to trade with in our current iteration. GoNYGo is right – this team is saving up for a consolation trade for a bona fide superstar.
The Lakers:
1. Would need to attach a 1RP or two to trade Westbrick. And the ones they need to trade are pretty far out. There’s a real chance they bottom out over the next few years, but again, they’re the Lakers. They have like a +3 on franchise Ass-Pull saving throws.
2. You want a fragile Anthony Davis? Me neither, and not at what his likely asking price will be. That’s the one guy – likely their only guy – they have that can potentially bring them back 1RPs and a real player or two.
Thank you
This is both an excellent point AND an excellent D&D joke
Okay, but would you have?
Since last season went to hell we’ve been concerned about trading Randle’s contract. If he manages to play himself back to the territory where we can unload him for positive assets, we absolutely have to do it. If we can get rid of Randle, Evan, Rose, and even Cam for Westbrook and two first rounders, we absolutely should do it. That gives us more ammo to trade for a future star. I hope Leon sees that. The Lakers are a dumpster fire and imploding fast.
Sidebar: I don’t think the LA fans JK47 associates with are of the same disposition as the ones I work with. That is to say, they aren’t trolls lol.
Speaking of trolls, I think I’m going to poke the bear today. Oh, they’ll do their mental gymnastics to twist away from current reality, but I’ll be ready 😉
Jennifer Lawrence looks like she owns the Lakers 2023 pick in this photo.
I think Alan just called us all stupid
Also, really, why would LA want to do that trade, even if they’re desperate to get rid of Russ? If Rose could play more than 12 minutes a game it’d be smart, but I’m not sure he can; and also their two best players (their only two players) are ostensibly power forwards, so why would they want a third one? It’s true that one is ancient and one is brittle, but Randle as Sixth Man of the Year seems like an odd strategy.
On the other hand, Evan is perfect, they’re desperate for shooting and he has that laid back je ne sais quoi LA vibe already…
On the one hand, if Julius is playing well enough for the Lakers to want him (along with some combo of Fournier, Rose, and Cam) to save their season, then our team is playing well enough that I can’t imagine Leon Rose being willing to blow it up for the sake of a future he may not see. And on the other hand, if the Knicks season gone into the toilet by the time the Lakers are ready to deal, then odds are we have seen the return of Bad Julius, and why would the Lakers give up one or two unprotected future firsts for that guy as a centerpiece?
But isn’t this every team’s situation with almost any player that isn’t on a rookie contract? Team plays well it’s because player is playing well and player’s value is higher but team less likely to trade them. Team plays poorly it’s because player is playing poorly and team wants to trade them but no other team wants them.
I mean, there is no real perfect scenario here unless Jokic or Giannis want out and The Nuggets or Bucks have to take back Randle and some other stuff as their consolation prize (hey, we got an all star at least!)
Which is why I don’t see the rush in trading Randle…and maybe not ever? Why? Because we drafted Obi and therefore he must have more potential? Randle was a higher lottery pick than Obi and is only like 3 years older than him!
I like Obi. I really do. And I really do get why people are not ready to trust Randle because he has been so up and down for us. But talent and skill wise, it really isn’t even close who is the better player now. Obi could become better that is true. He could also become better and still not be as good as peak Randle is. So if Brunson has truly fixed the problems Randle had last season, then shouldn’t we be looking to move Obi? Are we going to get super mad if that happens JUST because we drafted him? And couldn’t it be true that even if Obi’s theoretical ceiling isn’t as high as Randle’s is, that Obi might be easier to trade and get us something postive back than Randle because he is still on a rookie contract and has more “potential?”
I think I’ll probably have the warm goat cheese and caramelized onion tart
Honestly, if the Lakers’ season keeps going downhill, will Lebron demand a trade? I can’t imagine he’ll just fritter away the last few years of his career. In which case, to GoNY’s point, then we could be in the market for giving assets to get him on the squad.
If they want to improve immediately they really have no options. They’re players are worthless, outside of Lebron and AD, and they owe so many picks to NOLA that they can’t put together a trade package like the one that Milwaukee gave for Jrue Holiday.
That being said, LAL will have nearly $70M in cap space to play with next summer. I can’t imagine that they would take back any salary past this season unless it was for a star level player.
I’m not sure there’s a player, or combination of players, on this roster I wouldn’t trade for unprotected picks from the Lakers. Those picks are so desirable I genuinely think there’s at least a chance Rose would pivot from trying to maximize wins this season if he could get them. There are teams much better than us that would trade current talent for those picks.
Alas, this is purely academic as if the Lakers trade them they’ll be for far better players than our guys. But if we could make that trade it would probably be the single best transaction the Knicks have made in my lifetime.
al out there living the life…very nice 🙂
Agreed TNFH. Plus, I don’t think trading Randle/Evan/Cam/D.Rose really counts as “blowing it up.” Cam is expiring; assuming Grimes can get on the court, Evan doesn’t have to be a mainstay in the rotation; and Rose has been good but is playing limited minutes anyway. That leaves Randle and if he can keep this up, sure, we’d lose more games in the short term but it frees Obi to play and lets us see what he has.
If I had a dinner date with Jennifer Lawrence, I’d go with chicken wings for the appetizer. I love chicken wings.
If she’s vegan, so be it.
Will Obi get some minutes with the starters (sans Randle) tonight?
haven’t paid attention to how the bucks have started the season…
I’m guessing we are at least in this one tonight going in to the 4th…
pretty much a sure thing julius is gonna melt down at some point if he has to guard giannis all game…
Thank you, sir. I did some gaming when I lived in Syracuse. My best friend and his peoples played D&D, Rifts and a couple other systems.
some times it’s good just to order different appetizers for a meal…
great, now I suddenly have this strong desire for BBQ, at like 10 in the morning…
‘Lawrence’s love for junk food is well-documented, and the internet’s adoration towards her for her apparent relatability is nothing short of a PR manager’s dream. In recent years, she has won digital hearts for speaking up about her taste for McDonald’s fries, Cool Ranch Doritos, and pizza. Seriously, she really loves pizza — and really loves letting people know she really loves pizza, too. It’s practically her whole brand, actually.’
Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful, Jowles.
I just think at this point in his career Lebron just isn’t obsessed with winning anymore, he’s playing for his own personal accolades and that’s it. I really don’t think he wants to move out of the LA superstar lifestyle and I think he’s fine with the losing as long as he gets his and stays in Los Angeles, and that’s why he extended his contract even though they did nothing to address the issues with the team. He’s much more conscious of his personal image than guys like Kobe or Jordan were, and demanding a trade away from the Lakers would be a big hit to his public persona, even if it’s a reasonable move.
TNFH – logically, the Lakers should be stuck for like the next 5 years easy. I don’t think LeBron will accept the fact that his title contention days are over as long as he’s a Laker – so I don’t think he’d sign off on a reboot-type trade of sending off Davis for a youth/pick package. So I understand the idea of grabbing a future pick or two from them. But like I said, Lakers = extra ass-pull ability.
geo, you in my closet somewhere (thought I just cleaned it too lol)??? I just ate some mac n cheese and baked beans for breakfast 🙂 My bonus daughter brought home some BBQ the other night.
Bruno I think you could be right. The rumor was that Magic told LeBron he’d pass along his biz mogul savvy if he came out here.
If that’s the case, then the Lakers absolutely should shop AD and begin the teardown. Nobody wants Westbrook. If you’re gonna lose with LeBron (and him being able to sell tickets), might as well start slowly rebuilding and restock their draft capital. Then again, Pelinka seems to be more of an appeaser/starfucker GM so I don’t know if a stealth teardown is something he can pull off.
Man up Jowles, slide into her DMs with that tennis shorts photo of you
ha, that’s some fuel for getting stuff done on a friday for sure 🙂
suddenly though – i need ribs…i had a pretty full breakfast too…oh well, maybe i’ll just make it an early lunch…i need ribs though…
Agree with Bruno. He’s going to pass Kareem this year as all-time leading scorer. Next up is seeing if he can play with his son. Each one of those is worth way more than another title (unless it was with us of course).
I was going to say something fancy like tuna tartare or something with truffles… but forget that, I want BBQ now
Lebron has some major Jordan on the Wizards vibes right now.
I’d be fine with him at the vet’s minimum
Lebron is totally on the Kobe retirement leg of his career. Sit back, score pointz, let the team suck, take no real responsibility because you got 4 rings already and are the GOAT, get those personal end of the career achievements, do commercials and movies, Retire after he surpasses Vince Carter in age while still playing.
My only fear is he will want out and try to come here. Seriously, I could see him pulling that shit so he can end his career in the mecca and gut our team in the process.
I have driven past Lebron’s place in LA. He’d be pretty dumb to come to New York.
“Interesting. Most experts would say it started even before Seth Curry.”
Good one, but apparently most experts aren’t actually experts on Dallas. 😜
speaking of food…which is all i ever think about…i went to this place in san francisco today…that just specializes in east coast (really ny/nj) style egg/cheese on a griddle toasted buttered kaiser with choice of bacon/ham/or pastrami…plus I got the optional hash brown patty stuck in there….was just like my dad used to make when he had his deli out in massapequa park…ah..the good old daze..
The Lakers are not going to trade for Randle.
Davis and Randle are a terrible fit. The Lakers need outside shooting, not another PF that can’t shoot 3s. Davis is playing C because their roster is so putrid. The only player LA might be interested in would be Fournier, but I think they probably have their sights set higher and I don’t see a trade that makes sense for both sides anyway.
That’s not even my best photobomb, btw. That would be the time I was apparently stalking Keri Russell: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bg4uNZoA2Kd/
RIP to one of my musical heroes, the great Jerry Lee Lewis. Somehow that maniac lived to age 87.
Isn’t the plan for the Lakers to wait 1 year and then use the $70 million to make one more title run? There are a lot of interesting free agents in the summer of 2023.
That seems to be the plan. But can you really in good conscience as a basketball exec waste a year of LeBron’s career? Especially when he is nearing the point where even superhumans like himself are at risk of going off a cliff?
Here is a sample: https://hoopshype.com/lists/2023-nba-free-agency-agent-rankings/
@Alan This year is already wasted. They can only make it worse by doing another dumb trade that wastes the rest of his career.
Stop the count !!!
Who’s ready to steal the east’s top seed from the Bucks today? 😉
al, what is going on with your eyes…it reminds me of the “subway-going back to work, after covid” pic…
dude, you look in perpetual startlement 😛
In neither of those photos am I posing. I’m oblivious to the camera in the Lawrence one, while I am just realizing that I am on camera right as the shutter clicks in the Keri Russell one. Though it’s not automatically better when I’m deliberately posing next to people who know how to interact with a camera.
See https://www.instagram.com/p/7vGL1Cxuw0/
and
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnxJK6ThHlA/
and
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxNzHVzg8K1/
do you enjoy the social stuff that comes along with work, or, while you’re engaged with it are you just thinking: i’d rather be home?
RIP Jerry Lee Lewis. My mom was a big fan of him and all the early rock and roll guys.
Also, just found out that Robert Gordon died last week. He was a rockabilly singer and a major factor in the post-punk rockabilly revival of the late 70’s and early 80’s. Man, how time flies. RIP.
I’m terrible at small talk with strangers, so often at these events I either try to stick with people I know or just stay chill until it’s time to do the work part of things. Sometimes, though, it’s fun to just shoot the shit with Emma Stone for a couple of minutes. And some of the people I genuinely hit it off with. My wife jokingly refers to Jon Hamm as “your friend Jon Hamm” because he and I have the same taste in TV.
I’m off of all social media save Reddit so I can’t see these photos but I’m sure they’re fun ; (
JK47, do you know any of the guys from Chavez (another LA band)? I loved their two albums in the 90s and just found out that they did a 3-song EP in 2017. If any of you guys like groovy indie alt rock, check it out. Crank it up loud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFbH10IBig
I’ve never crossed paths with the Chavez guys (I think they’re NYC dudes) but I am a big fan, and I’m especially a fan of Matt Sweeney, a really great guitar player and a seemingly cool dude.
Here he is doing cool guitar shit with Blake Mills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlskErEWuRI&t=210s
Some boomer nostalgia: remember seeing Robert Gordon and Link Wray in the 1970’s…… good times!
I sometimes skip Pepper’s posts because reading them makes me hungry for food I cannot access.
Alan, you tower over Keri and Matthew like Shaq to Derek Fisher!
The dirty little secret of the business is that all actors are incredibly short. And at 6’3″, I’m taller than even most of the tall ones. Like, here’s me being both taller (and much wider) than Ted Danson: https://www.instagram.com/p/CRPrMigJzyY/ (second pic in)
Of the famous people I’ve met on this job, the only ones who made me feel short were Gwendoline Christie (in stiletto heels), the guy who played Jonah on Veep, and Abraham Benrubi, who was Jerry the desk clerk on ER and played a gigantic high school bully on Parker Lewis Can’t Lose. And almost everybody else is very short.
That is true – they are all tiny. Except Clooney is at least 6 foot. I played hoop 1-on-1 with him on the Warner lot back in the day. Never had Jameela Jamil lean on me, though…
I was playing a drinking game a couple months ago with some friends. For one of the cards, the tallest person had to drink. I was the tallest. I’m 5’8″.
I spent the next 10 minutes going back to back with everyone over and over out of confusion because that’s literally the only time that’s ever happened to me.
It’s not a conundrum for me. Buy low, sell high, repeat.
You can’t go wrong with mozzarella sticks.
I don’t know where the $70M cap space number for the Lakers next summer came from. It’s not true at all. It’s probably going to be a little over $30M. AD and LeBron will earn about $88M by themselves. You need ten minimum salaries to go with that and presumably they will have a first round draft pick to pay (worst of theirs and the Pelicans). Subtract all that from a salary cap of something like $130M and you see where the $30M comes from.
IMO, those who think every team in the NBA is 1 or 2 stars away from a championship are delusional. What is missing is a strong support team. The Knicks are buyers – not sellers.