Thank goodness the Knicks are once again hosting MLK afternoon games. It was so weird when they lost those games.
Anyhow, the red-hot Knicks host the Hornets with a chance to move up in the standings. The Hornets are luckily probably going to be without their star point guard, LaMelo Ball, tonight, which is quite fortuitous for the Knicks! This should give the Knicks a very good chance at winning this one.
Kemba Walker, though, will sadly miss this matchup with his former team. Seeing him play against another one of his former teams, the Celtics, this would have been fun. Sadly, Nerlens Noel is also out today. That knee of his has been a problem this year. The Knicks really haven’t had healthy Mitch/Noel this year, which is as a shame as that’s such a key part of their defense. Luckily, Mitch has been so good recently that it has still mostly worked out.
As for the poll, Alan wanted to know this one…Sorry, there are no polls available at the moment.
Let’s go, Knicks!
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20 years ago today, my daughter’s first and last Knicks game )-:
“Knicks Suffer Worst Home Loss in Team History”
As if a season of brutal basketball wasn’t bad enough for the Knicks, now they’re being humiliated, too.
In their most-lopsided home loss ever, the Knicks fell to the Charlotte Hornets 111-68 Monday for their eighth straight defeat.
“It’s an embarrassment,” point guard Mark Jackson said.
By the end of the game, which saddled the Knicks with their longest losing streak in 15 years, several players on the bench had towels covering their heads.
The real reason we traded for Cam revealed:
Leon Rose didn’t want to throw this game.
People passed over Bane for the same reason they drooled over Frank…
Sadly, the same basic reason why Curry lasted almost to #8 in the 2009 Draft (“sadly” because otherwise he would have been long off of the boards and wouldn’t have tormented us all by having him get picked right before the Knicks’ pick).
The balance shifted a lot with LaMelo out, don’t waste the chance.
Let’s Go Knicks!
Lamelo is apparently available now
man, i had kinks in my head all morning:
I remember, when you were down
And you needed a helping hand
I came to feed you
But now that I need you
You won’t give me a second glance
Now I’m calling all citizens from all over the world
This is Captain America calling
I bailed you out when you were down on your knees
So will you catch me now I’m falling
been thinking a bit too of billy preston and john lennon hanging out singing i have a dream over she’s so heavy…
Can’t let Scary Terry go off
at their very best – our front court of julius and mitch should be simply beating the hell out of anyone around the basket…
Someone get the Knicks some coffee
holy cow soze – you just getting ready to sit down for an early dinner…cool you’re getting some primetime playing…a wet and greyish day is just getting under way as we begin to play…
Always enjoy watching players drafted after Kevin Knox torch us
I should be working, but hey i’m my own boss so i’m allowed. 😀
Let’s go Knicks!! Happy MLK day to all.
Wait, whaaaaaaat????? MITCH!!
EDIT: If Mitch unlocks that move consistently. OMG!!!
just had a waking dream
Mitch with a new trick in the bag of tricks!
Who’s the player on Mitch’s body? 😀
OMG what was that from Mitch? MAX HIM NOW!!!
For now ball movement and defense are not even close to that in Atlanta…
When did Mitch learn to do that?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a move more inexplicable than that Mitch move.
I take back my trade ideas involving Mitch.
i had to replay that thing a few times just to be sure i saw what i saw…
this offense is bullshit give it to mitch on the perimeter and let him cook
The mayor looks promising, the game not so much.
The Knicks have their longterm answer at the point, I guess.
Mitch gotta bring it up the floor now. Clear out, folks.
The Mitch shake and bake notwithstanding, we look like shit.
We’re playing like shit.
Charlotte might be the worst possible matchup for the Knicks defense.
This isn’t going well, but on the bright side Clyde and the mayor definitely have chemistry
Torture us Miles
Every Bridges’ basket is like a knee in the nuts….
Why is Fournier on Bridges?
I expect Shae-Gilgeous to drop 50 on us when OKC comes to the Garden
Move over, Wilt…
I wanted Mikal in the 2018 Draft, and had Miles next. Is Mikal still a better option, or has Miles outplayed him after the slow start?
You’re a bad man, you’re making me cry… 😉
Miles was the “knicksy” outcome that many here feared months before the draft. I think his stock rose as the draft got closer…
I’d still take Mikal, but Miles has definitely made it very close with his stellar play this season. Put it this way, Miles will get a bigger free agent contract that Mikal got in his extension.
Remember when the running joke was that we were going to end up with Miles Bridges in the draft, and that was going to be a disappointing outcome?
I wanna see this unit.
Extend Toppin. He hit a 3!
Very nice shift by Obi thus far…
thibs will pull obi during this time out…
“Obi” crowd chants per minutes played is a Knick record, perhaps.
EDIT: Meaning – he may be the career leader.
Good hustle by Grundy and nice drive by Obi. Obi having a nice spell
Obi! Obi! Obi! Obi! Obi!
I’m patiently waiting for the day Mitch glances over at Thibs, shoots a line drive 3 pointer, Thibs grabs his chest, and Mitch nails it. 🙂
Obi very active, his best shift since Toronto, well done.
Is there a stat for alleyoops? Obi should be at the top of the list.
Bridges of Madison Square Garden
My beloved refrain: too many missed FTs…
Both RJ and IQ with turnovers on dumb lazy passes…
Now Obi is subbed for missed FTs too…
Trivia must be LJ, right?
5/12 at the line. There’s your game just about
Bad shift by IQ
Let Hayward shoot 😀
Reddish can’t do any worse against Bridges, sprained ankle or no
When Michael Jordan made the decision to draft Miles Bridges, he probably didn’t think the kid would one day score more points than he ever did at MSG.
It’s just uncanny how we can’t corral a defensive rebound.
Good idea for RJ to leave that brick layer Hayward wide open in the corner.
I don’t think Bridges will keep shooting .833 in the 2nd half
Time for the Randle/Mitch/Taj/Sims lineup
Sorry, that’s on me. It looked like a good idea, early on. 😛
People would yell at me if I stated my opinion of Randle’s defense today so I won’t
We had been rebounding much better. Until today.
rj never hits mitch on that pnr…never…
Okay. That was frustrating to watch.
We’ll have to change a lot in the 2nd half, if we want to have a chance to win.
Other than the offense, defense, and FT shooting that wasn’t a bad half
great words from clyde as always…
Back to square one, very very disappointing.
We had one chance to get back in the game, RJ and Obi missed 4 FT’s and the Hornets take command again…
I wont say nothing about Randle and Fournier, but I’m thinking out loud 🙂
This is kind of classic Knicks-y – get the fans believing again and then let future hall of famers Miles Bridges and Terry Rozier shred you like Parmesan cheese
parmesan is usually grated…mozzarella is shredded….but…this is a pathetic showing so far…
In-game cheese correction. Only on Knickerblogger.
3rd quarter goal: Let’s get to single digits.
Woeful half so I might as well tackle this (you skip it if you’re not Z-Man).
I am all for more harmony in 2022. Acrimony is tedious.
I gotta say, though, I look at this passage and it does not represent anything I’ve said or believe.
If you do an entire search of this database you will never find the phrase Skiles Effect in one of my posts. I never said it, I never believed it.
I have given Thibs immense credit for player development. I think it’s his most under appreciated skill. I even talked about it as a plus when we hired him. I believe he’s done great work with Obi and IQ. And he was an immense factor in Mitch’s improvement.
I do not believe Randle and Barrett were great last year because of Thibs. This has been the center of our disagreement. When things went bad in the playoffs and I criticized Thibs, you felt I shouldn’t have done that because Thibs was the reason we got there. I didn’t see it that way. I agree that Barrett, Randle, and everyone else on the team needed the step up from Fizdale to Thibs to elevate their game. But I think any above average coach could have provided the same, and many of them could have actually helped more.
I was dead wrong about Thibs and DRose, and I ate crow for it.
And I didn’t say Thibs couldn’t learn new tricks. In fact I even predicted when he hired him that he would embrace the 3 pt shot bc he’s smart and he wants to win.
You’ve taken all the Thibs criticisms you’ve heard and ascribed them to me, but those aren’t my takes.
Or, as someone once said, “I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear.”
Martin Luther King Jr.
Wasn’t someone supposed to do an incense dance or something? Did that not happen?
Mitch just played the best defense of the day on Miles, too bad Fournier blew the dunk
What a disgrace…
Still waiting for the comeback… real or fake…
Glen Rice!? We’re doomed, this must be the sign. 😛
The refs joining the party
If that was a travel on RJ then Giannis should average 12 turnovers a game
Randle just letting people drive by him like it’s part of the game plan…
We’re looking like we’re on a back to back
Only me still watching the game?
This is some bad news bears shit.
You really need to learn how to throw lighters, coins and bottles at the refs like we do in civil Europe….
Clyde, “Quickley gonna run out of gravity”
Another hangover. Neither surprising, nor unusual, unfortunately. Name how many times in 20 years the Knicks played well at MSG when the previous day was a weekend or holiday. You won’t find many.
I wish I wasn’t
Quick missed a FT. Another sign. It’s over.
Crowd too quiet,
they played like shit, let them know we noticed.
Bridges is playing really well, but i don’t envision that he can do this on the Big3 league. 😀
Just tuned in to see we’re getting killed. Had to work and been on calls all afternoon. No opportunity to do my halftime “Incense and Dance” ritual. Sorry gang. Next game…
are we still on pace for 56?
They’re not shooting lights-out, but their 3pt% is almost the same as our overall shot%.
Plus 15 turnovers vs. 6 isn’t a good thing.
They played well in the previous games, i don’t think they deserve it for just one game.
Knicks honoring MLK with nonviolent resistance
The only win over an over .500 team is the Dallas’ one.
Most misleading final score in nba history
the non Mitch starters shot 16-47 for 48 points if anyone is wondering why we got our asses kicked
That one Mitch drive was cool tho
Ball-less Hornets sting Knicks at Garden.
Well now we know what the starting lineup should have been.
Man, poor Miles can’t hit the ocean from a boat right now.
You can tell the Knicks crowd is getting younger and dumber because that “We want Obi” chant was so stupid. Like how is Obi gonna change the game?! We don’t have a functioning point guard! Which he needs to be successful! And he’s not good at defense! Not sure if it was yet more piling on Randle – which is dumb because he wasn’t the only reason we sucked today. Total team failure.
Hit your goddamn free throws Knicks
The Hornets played very well, have to give them their props. They’d beat a lot of teams the way they played today. And we definitely played poorly, especially Julius but he wasn’t alone. The zone really gave us trouble.
I hope that’s only because the game was a matinee.
Next 3 games are easy then, at home against teams below .500 – MIN, NOP, LAC.
No way is the list that short
Max, fixed that for you…the Knox pick will haunt us for eternity
Updated list of opposing players who have set their career-high points at Madison Square Garden this season:
1) Jaylen Brown (46)
2) OG Anunoby (36)
3) Ricky Rubio (37)
4) Evan Mobley (26)
5) Zeke Nnaji (21)
6) Miles Bridges (38)
7) Shai-Gilgeous Alexander (43) on 2/14/22
I’ll be monitoring* Mobley and Nnaji’s games to check if they can go 27 and 22 pts, respectively, to reduce this list.
* – No, i will not. Just kidding.
LOL (but with a tear rolling down my cheeck…. Kevin… Knox…).
The game made it glaringly obvious for the 1000th time how much we need an actual PG. Quickley isnt it so we need Rose back ASAP or a trade for one.
Guys, I finally figured it out:
Miles Bridges did not want to play for the Knicks, so he threw the 3-on-3.
Has to be.
I certainly wanted Miles Bridges over Knox, but that was just because Knox was always a glaringly terrible pick, but I didn’t think much of Bridges and up until this season, he hasn’t been much, so while yes, the Knicks deserve all of the shit they can get for picking a clearly bad choice with the Knox pick, I don’t know if I can knock them too much for not taking Miles Bridges. He’s been a pleasant surprise, but a surprise nevertheless (and he still doesn’t play much defense).
In conversations about how much to pay Mitch it is too often ignored that he is fucking hilarious. That’s worth at least a $5M AAV bonus.
Had to share….
Mitch is like a sunken Spanish galleon with untold treasures hidden within its hold.
He’s decaying in 100 feet of water?
Kevin Knox is one of the few times when any of my teams drafted a guy that I flat out “knew” would be terrible. Usually I’ll cross my fingers and figure the team might be right. Not with him… dude looked like a gangly low effort guy at KY. Alas.
The craziest thing is still that his freshman teammate who had a much better season than him was right there if you wanted to go with an upside guy!
that is not the way it works my dude
Well, the jokes were good
Yes it does. Which side are you on? 😉
To make matters worse on this bad day for the Knicks, Celtics won, Wizards won, Hornets won (duh!). And the Hawks just did the same against the Bucks. Raptors are playing the Heat, let’s hope this game goes our way.
Thanks to the KB community, I read Story of Your Life today, and got two episodes into Station Eleven. It helped that I was able to tune out the Knicks after one half. Really, really solid picks.
I’m sure it hits different when you’ve got a kid
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I will agree the Knicks were non-violent. I wouldn’t call Miles Bridges scoring 22 points in a single quarter “resistance”.
Speaking of books, here is an excerpt from Chris Herring’s book ( already endorsed by @Alan)
Both Shai and Donovan Mitchell in the Frank draft were totally within our range and guys we should have been looking to pick considering we’ve needed a PG forever. I know Mitchell is more of a combo but in both of these drafts we went with measurements and potential over production. It’s not even like Knox and Frank are super athletic. I would say Shai and Donovan are way more athletic in the sense they are faster and more explosive. It’s just that Knox and Frank had the bigger bodies and measurements. It’s so maddening to think we could have had either of those dudes.
And while I like Obi enough, it’s the same wrong thinking when we picked him over Halliburton. At least Obi actually is athletic and I’m pretty sure we picked him thinking Randle was gone. But still. We have needed a point guard forever and yet whenever we have a high draft pick, we don’t pick the best available PG’s. It’s so stupid. Even going back to Jordan Hill. Yeah, we missed out on Steph. Still could have grabbed Jrue Holiday who is quietly one of the better PG’s of the last decade.
It’s why I’m actually cool with us competing and having later first round picks. For whatever reason, going back for a very long time, this franchise just can’t seem to hit lottery picks and does better with late first rounders and second rounders. RJ was an obvious choice so I’m fine with that. But before him, I guess Gallo was the last top 10 pick we made that was the correct choice?