2018-19 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Pistons

They seriously just plugged the Dallas guys into the starting five. That’s hilarious.

This is a dangerously mediocre pistons team

So far the boys are up to the challenge

Nice moment, Breen and Clyde….

Breen and Clyde talking about going into the season that 8 teams have a legitimate shot at winning a championship and the Knicks were one of them. Aaah the good old days….

I heard this from the other room without context and was like “what the fuck, did we just trade for AD and Durant?”

Clyde started his career with probably the most conservative suit he has ever worn.

Somehow his sartorial choices are 35% of why I watch the telecast.

Mitch is too good for these bums

Is that Jose Calderon?

you know what the good side of the KP / Mudiah / THJ / Baker / Willie transactions is?

Nobody loses their shit on here about letting Langston Galloway slip away any more.

Back off Cronin, he’s mine

I can’t believe Calderon is still in the NBA. And that his TS% has dropped 20% since last year. Might be time to hang up the boots.

damn dot to rob

Smith played a very good first quarter, that was nice, and we must protect Mitch at all costs. I can’t believe the Knicks now have two centers that play exactly like I ever wanted, but nobody else in the roster lol.

Edit: oh my that alley oop finish <3

he’s already caught oops from 4 different players what’s the fucking record

Zipcode, Langston scored 18 and was +20 in yesterday’s game.

Okay, okay, just sayin’.

OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!

Ummmmh, Detroit, you night want to check that skinny guy from Louisiana….

Someone send a video of this first half to KD and Kyrie

What a hell of a fun first half so far! I’m glad I decided to pick this one to watch.

Kadeem Allen also kinda looks like a NBA player, I could see him staying on the roster as a 4th guard.

Zaza has one of the most punchable faces in the league…

Just imagine how good Mitch could be if he didn’t bite on every single goddamn headfake.

I take it back…

DSJ is good at some important things but for the love of god stop the turnaround midrangers

Someone tell Wes Matthews it’s ok to make a basket

Z-man, tell your son to put his KP jersey on eBay and buy him a Mitch Rob jersey STAT!

Too late, the price just tripled!

Wes Matthews’ numbers are pedestrian as hell so how does he manage to look so much worse than them?

Zion with 5 missed shots in one game. Has he ever done that? He is on his way to 20 rebounds though.

Fiz is confusing. I dunno how the team is tolerating him. Other than it’s their job to

Fiz is confusing. I dunno how the team is tolerating him. Other than it’s their job to

He must be the most charismatic guy in the world off the court because he doesn’t seem to do anything when they’re on the court.

DSJr. is clearly more talented than Ntilikina, he just needs to not take midrange j’s for no reason. Wes has taken tanking to a whole new level.

Funny, it makes you want to keep DeAndre around for the rest of the season…what’s the deadline for being added to a playoff team’s roster? Maybe we can delay the buyout until then…

What does Frank Ntilikina do when given the ball on the perimeter with 4 seconds left on the shot clock? I dunno but not that.

Blake’s having a damn good year. If he wasn’t playing next to the human rebound vacuum, his numbers might match up with his contract.

DSjr vs. Frank: It’s over.

We so shit the bed
When we lost the great Langston Geeee
Fuckin Hai Cooooo boys!!!!

I can’t watch this shit
getting roasted by griffin
you tube Hannibal!!

That was HANG TIME!!

knox woke up a little today

Mitch can be a great piece on a contender, but it would really help if he could eventually do more on offense than dunk. Those shots are not going to be there every night. He’ll still have an impact on defense on those nights, but we need two-way stars. He’d look a lot better as the 3rd piece behind Durant and Irving.

Vonleh is pure ass tonight.

Vonleh probably has less value with Deandre Jordan on the court. Jordan is going to dominate the boards and clog up the middle more than even Kanter. Vonleh was a more of an ideal fit with Porzingis. Now that KP is gone, he’s more expendable in the right trade.

matthews eurostepped his way to a mid range 2. innovation.

Shot clock was down on that shot…

DSJ is such a supreme athlete. Million dollar athleticism, with a ten cent brain.

I don’t know how you get someone to stop constantly doing the dumbest shit imaginable but if someone could do that for DSJ I’d love to see the result

DSJ should look to pass a *little* more, you know, being a point guard and all.

Stop gunning please. Thanks.

At least two of those shots were forced with the clock running down, including one halfcourt heave.

Listen to those Knicks fans. If we put a contending team on the floor next year, they’ll blow the roof off MSG

Yep. It will be insane.

DSJ is like Mudiay on speed. It’s kind of fun to watch but it’s also way out of control.

Dude, who else do you want taking shots on this team, Wes Matthews?

Jose, I apologize for talking shit about you.

Kadeem, I am still intrigued. Great steal at least.

Mitch can be a great piece on a contender, but it would really help if he could eventually do more on offense than dunk. Those shots are not going to be there every night.

No! We are not litigating this again!!

No! We are not litigating this again!!

He’s basically Heatles-era Birdman but 20 years old and spry and cheap as hell. Those shots are gonna be there every night if he keeps jumping high and playing hard. Dude is physically superior to his peers. In the fucking N-B-A.

Really? We’re going to nitpick DSjr’s performance tonight?

Of the shots that he’s missed, I’d call 3 at most bad shots. The kid has had a very good game.

Ah well, the tank continues.

Zaza should get an Oscar for that

I thought it was an obvious foul until I saw the replay

Wow, Knox missed that 3 reeeeeeeally wide.

we can at least agree that dsj is more fun to watch then mudiay.

DSJ was fun tonight but uh why 40 minutes?

was hezonja hurt or is he back in the dungeon?

LOL @ Fizdale calling timeouts to conduct “teaching moments.”

Its good to know he’s teaching them something out there.

These guys stink!

The Sixers are getting booed at home

Kevin Knox and Wesley Matthew had 23 FGA combined.

DSJ had 25 by himself.

Smith really needs to fix his shot and figure out how to draw more fouls. As for the passing… he did a decent job throwing the ball to the corner when the guy was open, the Knicks missed a bunch of wide open shots.

Either way, real story is Robinson 13/10 only 3 fouls in 24 min. Dude is everywhere on defense.

We may suck but the Lakers with Lebron lost by 42.

lol Ntilikilla trying to save face by bashing DSjr…how cute!

Ultimately, DSJr’s numbers weren’t great, but Ntilikilla has been bashing him since before he started missing all his shots down the stretch. Clearly what we needed were more shots from Wes Matthews.

I didn’t think DSJr’s decision making was as bad as I’ve heard. He ended up forcing some threes out of the pick and roll, a few were necessary as the clock was winding down. Still needs to make those or we need to find a different play.

I also think the shot distribution will even out once the team gets a few more reps together. I do think the offense looked a lot better than it has all year.

Can we throw in Frank or Knox and a 2nd to keep one of the 1sts?

I don’t really trust he’ll ever truly get there, but who cares, it’s not like this team would be better suited allowing anyone else to run the offense and take those shots anyway. We all know there’s no offensive system and no talent on the roster outside of a few spots, so what does it matter? At least it was a fun game to watch.

Oh, absolutley, just give him the keys and let him have fun the rest of the season. Unlike Mudiay, there’s actually some upside to Smith playing well, if he turns things around.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Fizdale was a fan, but ultimately, I don’t think Perry is going to take Fizdale’s views into consideration. Or should I say that I certainly hope that Perry isn’t going to make decisions based on who Fizdale likes.

This offseason is going to really tell us a lot about Scott Perry.

I’m legitimately afraid that Fizdale likes Smith and wants to keep him around. Feels like Derrick Rose 2.0 here.

Yes, this right here, this is it. I’ll never forget when we made the catastrophic mistake of acquiring Derrick Rose when he was 21, on the second year of his rookie contract.

The Raptors have offered Kyle Lowry and Jonas Valanciunas to the Grizzlies for Mike Conley and Marc Gasol

How would that make any sense for Memphis? Unless there were other picks involved. Or maybe the Grizzlies think they could then flip Lowry for something more easily than Conley? I am not understanding this at all.

You have to love how Ujiri doesn’t fuck around at all.

DSJr is better than Frank no question. Problem is I’ll never have to worry about the team giving Frank 25 mill a year because pointz.

(especially in response to my spot-on criticism from pre-draft to present of your unfortunate chosen one)

You’re really stuck on Frank in an obsessive compulsive way. I’m not even certain if anyone mentioned him before you. He’s besides the point. Because even if Ntilikina ceased to exist from all of reality, anyone with half a brain would still gag at DSJ’s style of play tonight. Tonight’s game was a perfect Rorschach test on this issue. 25 points on 24 shots. 6 assists to 5 turnovers. And somehow this grotesque abomination of a box score for an NBA starting point guard is touted here by you and others as a good game. How? I know not. I guess we’re relying on the eye test. Who knows?

Anyways, while I do understand why you need to pivot to these ridiculous red herrings, trying to defend DSJ by attacking Frank — since they distract against legitimate criticisms of a point guard who takes too many shots, is reckless with the ball, and has a low IQ for the game — what I cannot understand is the need to personalize the issue with appeals to ad hominem attacks. You sound mad, bruh. And all over Dennis Smith Jr’s shitty box line. Wow.

Problem is I’ll never have to worry about the team giving Frank 25 mill a year because pointz.

And to be even more specific, the problem is that DSJ is the type of high volume/sloppy player whose mistakes are consistently overlooked because puts a high volume of stats. People will emphasize his cumulative points, assists, and rebound numbers and overlook the context of his box score. He’s the type of guy entire franchises sink years into developing hoping they figure a smarter more efficient way of playing point guard only to see that he was always who he showed himself to be.

How would that make any sense for Memphis? Unless there were other picks involved. Or maybe the Grizzlies think they could then flip Lowry for something more easily than Conley? I am not understanding this at all.

I think they save about 40m because Conley just needs to play four more games this season and his 34m for 2020/21 salary becomes guaranteed whereas Lowry expires next year. Plus Valanciunas makes less than Gasol. I guess it makes them a little better short-term but I wouldn’t want to take on Conley’s contract when Kawhi is most likely going to leave.

How many points would Frank score on 25 FGA? 15 pts if he’s on fire?

dang, I guess tobias does have some serious value in the league…philly just gave up 2 firsts (their’s and someone elses) for him…

bunch of other players moving…from woj:

Sources: Clippers and Sixers have agreed to trade Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanovic, Mike Scott for Landry Shamet, Wilson Chandler, Mike Muscala, 2020 first-rounder, 2021 unprotected 1st via Miami and two second rounders.

Unlike Mudiay, there’s actually some upside to Smith playing well, if he turns things around.

That’s the core of it. I hate his game and worry he’s another sign of a FO that values pointzz, but he’s on a rookie deal! Just as with Frank, there’s no downside to playing him and trying to develop him. Mudiay, Hez…no point whatsoever, because they’re gone at the end of the year (or we have to re-sign then for market value).

Well, Philly is finally all in. On paper, they’re the best team in the east, hands down. Let’s see how they gel.

That said, the package is only slightly better than what we got for KP, who is far less certain of a proposition than Harris albeit with more upside. Sort of underscores how smart of a trade Perry/Mills made considering that Philly took a “last step” in a long rebuild towards a championship-contending team (i.e. the ideal time to overpay) and Dallas is pretty far from being a contender (not a great time to pverpay.)