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Full BoxScore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20181123/NOPNYK#/boxscore
Score by Period:
| Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | TOTAL |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pelicans | 34 | 26 | 30 | 19 | 109 |
| Knicks | 28 | 31 | 28 | 27 | 114 |
Four Factors
| TEAM | eFG | TOR | ORB | FTR |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| NOP | 0.431 | 0.103 | 0.364 | 0.218 |
| NYK | 0.511 | 0.072 | 0.271 | 0.218 |
Simple Box Score
| Name | min | pts | fga | 3pm | ftm | or | Reb | ast | stl | to | blk | pf | +/- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Johnson, Wesley | 24:00 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | -3 |
| Mirotic, Nikola | 29:50 | 19 | 14 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Davis, Anthony | 32:01 | 33 | 19 | 1 | 8 | 4 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | -6 |
| Holiday, Jrue | 36:36 | 22 | 25 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 3 | -12 |
| Moore, E’Twaun | 31:03 | 3 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 3 | -7 |
| Randle, Julius | 28:52 | 13 | 15 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 10 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | -3 |
| Clark, Ian | 16:44 | 7 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 4 |
| Jackson, Frank | 11:14 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | -2 |
| Miller, Darius | 24:31 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 |
| Diallo, Cheick | 5:08 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 1 |
| Frazier, Tim | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Hill, Solomon | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Okafor, Jahlil | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Pelicans | 240:00 | 109 | 101 | 7 | 22 | 20 | 55 | 26 | 5 | 13 | 5 | 22 | -5 |
| Name | min | pts | fga | 3pm | ftm | or | Reb | ast | stl | to | blk | pf | +/- |
| Hezonja, Mario | 18:40 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 2 | -3 |
| Vonleh, Noah | 36:47 | 14 | 10 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 18 |
| Kanter, Enes | 33:15 | 17 | 12 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 12 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | -1 |
| Hardaway Jr., Tim | 36:09 | 7 | 15 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | -1 |
| Mudiay, Emmanuel | 28:30 | 27 | 20 | 1 | 6 | 1 | 7 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 5 |
| Ntilikina, Frank | 14:19 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 6 |
| Burke, Trey | 19:30 | 7 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| Robinson, Mitchell | 9:16 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 6 | -3 |
| Trier, Allonzo | 34:13 | 25 | 12 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 8 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 13 |
| Knox, Kevin | 9:19 | 5 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | -9 |
| Knox, Kevin | 9:19 | 5 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | -9 |
| Dotson, Damyean | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Knicks | 240:00 | 114 | 92 | 12 | 20 | 13 | 48 | 22 | 9 | 8 | 10 | 26 | 5 |
18 replies on “Post Game: Knicks beat Pelicans, 114-109”
If nothing else, we should have some trade assets at deadline time. And Fiz is showing he’s actually pretty good at this development stuff.
Boston and boy genius are sub .500 ahahahahaahaha
Edit: nevermind my app glitched out and showed me last Friday’s game…
I wonder what the starting five would look like with Trier in place of Hezonja. Mudiay’s, Trier, TH2, Vonleh, and Kanter. That’s a lot of your scoring on the floor together, but you still have Burke on the bench and you can always stagger minutes. I just don’t see the point in giving 15 minutes a game to Hezonja.
Really nice road wins by PHX and CLE. The tank is still creeping along…
Yeah, Hezonja’s minutes have been weird so far. My guess is that Fizdale basically told the players that he’s going to rotate everyone, no exceptions, and they’re all going to be featured in 4-5 game stretches. I would like this lineup a lot more with Dotson, Ntilikina or Trier starting in his place. At this point he’s showing nothing and only taking minutes away from the guys we actually want to watch.
I do think the Knicks should really start to look forward to negotiating a contract with Trier to keep him on the team for the full season, as the better he plays the less room for negotiation the Knicks will have, and Vonleh will be harder because he’s unrestricted next year and the Knicks do not have any bird rights over him. Thankfully his cap hold is very minimal, 120% of his minimum contract, so if he wants to re-sign it can be done without losing too much cap space.
Yeah, it was quite the night for upsets in the NBA.
Fiz said he wanted to settle on a set rotation around game 20. Still don’t understand his subs most of the time.
In the post game he said he was going to start figuring a more set rotation now. So I’m not expecting it to be a real quick development. He didn’t seem rushed so who knows.
Fiz also gave Berman some shit for not asking him a question after he’d won two in a row.
Fiz showing that he’s good at developing players is perhaps the most important thing for the future of this franchise. When he left Robinson in the game after getting his 5th foul, I cheered. How else is the kid gonna learn? Those were cheap fouls. I still don’t understand the flagrant, but NO had a bulls-eye on him from tip-off. AD played him like a fiddle. But great lessons were taught at Hoops-U.
I’m buying that Mudiay is playing a little better. He’s young and should be improving. But I’m not so sure I’m buying his very recent form.
For a rookie (albeit older), Tier has “it”. It’s good that he played 24 minutes and had zero TOs. That’s been on of his downsides.
Hezonja is in some kind of mental death spiral. There’s no way he’s this bad.
Dotson not playing is kind of ridiculous. Even Baker should be getting minutes on this team at times when they need defense.
It would be nice to give Robinson more minutes, but at this point teams know that fouls are a problem and they are probably trying to get him out early.
The return of Courtney Lee is going to cause lineup issues. You can’t trade him unless you play him so teams can see what he looks like, but the glut of SGs is going to take minutes from someone. That goes double if Frank is playing off the ball and Fizdale doesn’t want to go small and use either him or Hardaway at SF.
Its going to be interesting to see what the starting lineup looks like now that we are 20 games in.
Everything is probably still up for grabs except Hardaway. I’m not a Kanter fan, but the Kanter/Vonleh combination is not a disaster. Vonleh covers for him a bit in the same way KP does. Kanter’s scoring allows you to put Frank on the court for defense to cover for either Mudiay or Burke at PG.
If it was up to me though, it would be Robinson, Vonleh, Dotson, Frank, and Hardaway or Robinson, Vonleh, Frank, Hardaway, and Burke depending on the matchups.
Don’t nobody want to trade for Courtney Lee. We’re stuck with him. Just stick him on the end of the bench and let him ride out his contract. Run him out there for garbahje time every now and then. There is absolutely no reason for him to get minutes considering there are so many young shooting guard types that need to get experience. Trying to showcase him so you can trade him is not going to work, as he is owed a cringe-worthy $12.7M next year in what will be his age 34 season.
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His age is (or should be) meaningless to “smart” teams. The only thing that matters is whether he can be productive for those 2 remaining years and whether you need what he brings to the table.
He had one of the best years of his career last year. So he should be fine for 2 more years (at least when he gets in shape and gets his shot sharp).
25m for 2 years is an overpay in this environment, but not significantly when there are clowns making similar money and barely better players making a lot more money at the same position.
If we want to move him (and we more or less will have to at some point if we want the cap space next year), he has to play enough that teams know what they are getting. That way if we have to add something to get that expiring contract, at most it will be a 2nd rounder. We may not move him right away anyway, but either way he has to play enough so teams know what they are getting. Burying him at the end of the bench makes it close to 100% certain we won’t be able to move him. That’s just a fact.
We’re still pretending that Courtney Lee is tradeable? Here in November of 2018, we’re still acting like there is an NBA team out there that believes their situation will be improved by adding 2/24 worth of Courtney Lee? I thought we had abandoned that particular delusion.
Courtney Lee’s agent is probably working on a buy out for him. If JR Smith can work out a trade for himself, those same people should be calling the Knicks for Lee. We’re stuck with him unless we add a sweetener to the deal, and we need to save all of our sweeteners for the summer when Lillard and AD are on the trade market.
One of his best years was ws/48 = 0.082 which makes him an old below average player with a 2 year above average salary who currently isn’t healthy enough to even practice….
The problem is that if you swap out Dotson for Hezonja, you might start winning games. We can’t have that, Hezonja will lead us to Zion!