(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 3:00:00 AM)
The Victoria’s Secret model who first spoke out against Harvey Weinstein wants to make sure that #MeToo doesn’t go #TooFar.
“Some people use #MeToo in the wrong way,” according to 26-year-old catwalker and activist Ambra Battilana Gutierrez. “I feel that #MeToo is for the collective benefit. Somebody…
(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 3:00:00 AM)
The NYPD has promoted a department supervisor who oversaw an investigation into claims that a young Brooklyn woman was raped by two detectives — and was present at the hospital when other cops allegedly intimidated her into changing her story, the Daily News has learned.
Deputy Inspector Michael…
(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 3:00:00 AM)
A pilot program in civility has arrived for teen students — and not a day too soon.
Federal judges across the country are welcoming teenagers into their courtrooms to teach them the basics of civil discourse as our nation’s leader’s divisive rhetoric – shared in spiteful tweets and boisterous soundbites…
(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 3:00:00 AM)
Schools Chancellor Richard Carranza is fired up for the new school year that starts on Wednesday.
“There’s nothing more energetic than the start of the school year,” he said in an exclusive interview with the Daily News. “Things are moving at a really fast pace.”
Carranza, 51, is a veteran educator…
(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 2:00:00 AM)
This week marks the scheduled end of a nationwide prisoner strike that spotlights America’s senselessly brutal treatment of men and women behind bars.
New Yorkers should take special note of the issues raised by the strike: The end date, Sept. 9, is the anniversary of the 1971 riots at Attica prison…
(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:10:00 AM)
The system of cash bail as we know it offends fairness and decency, allowing those charged with crimes to stay out of jail while awaiting trial if only they can pony up enough cash or buy a bond.
So said Gov. Cuomo speaking to the Daily News Editorial Board on Thursday as he runs for a third term,…
(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:05:00 AM)
Vision Zero, Mayor de Blasio’s signature campaign to reduce traffic deaths, has notched big victories worth lauding: a lower speed limit across the city, cameras that catch speed demons, redesigned intersections that safeguard pedestrians and cyclists. That just 216 people were killed in traffic…
(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:00:00 AM)
Friday, beverage giant Coca-Cola announced plans to buy massive British coffee chain Costa for $5 billion in cash, plunging it into a battle royale with Starbucks to find ever more ways to caffeinate the planet one $3 or $5 or $7 drink at a time.
We’re all for economic competition, but in this…
(Tuesday, September 04, 2018 12:00:00 AM)
A cap on Uber is more than fare
Long Island City: While the city’s recent reining in of Uber is a praiseworthy giant step forward, much remains to be done to bring full economic fairness to all professional drivers. Fortunately, the persistent and determined New York Taxi Workers Alliance has reasonable…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 11:40:00 PM)
YANGON, Myanmar — A Myanmar court sentenced two Reuters journalists to seven years in prison Monday on charges of illegal possession of official documents, a ruling met with international condemnation that will add to outrage over the military’s human rights abuses against Rohingya Muslims.
(Monday, September 03, 2018 11:20:00 PM)
OSHKOSH, Wis. — Authorities say they were trying to arrest a Wisconsin man on a domestic abuse-related charge when he fled in an airplane before crashing into a cornfield.
The Winnebago County Sheriff’s Office says officers went to Wittman Regional Airport in Oshkosh on Friday night to try to arrest…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 10:55:00 PM)
VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis on Monday recommended silence and prayer to counter those who “only seek scandal,” division and destruction in what appeared to be an indirect response to allegations that he had covered up for a U.S. cardinal embroiled in sex abuse scandals.
Italian Archbishop Carlo…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 10:40:00 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — A Malaysian court sentenced an American man to death by hanging for killing his ex-wife, but the man will appeal Tuesday’s ruling on the grounds that he acted in self-defense.
Lawyer K.A. Ramu said the High Court found his client, 63-year-old Gerald Wayne Mickelson, guilty…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 10:30:00 PM)
In one of the biggest upsets in tennis history, 20-time Grand Slam champion Roger Federer fell to unseeded Aussie John Millman, 3-6, 7-5, 7-6 (9-7), 7-6 (7-3), in a fourth-round U.S. Open match that ended at 12:52 a.m. Tuesday.
Federer, the No. 2 seed and five-time Open champion, hit a forehand…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 10:20:00 PM)
A gunman shot and critically wounded a man during an argument outside a Bronx elementary school Monday night.
The victim was standing in front of the Luisa Pineiro Fuentes School of Science and Discovery on Eames Place by Web Ave. in Kingsbridge at about 9:20 p.m. when his attacker opened fire,…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 10:10:00 PM)
ATLANTA – Chick-fil-A is giving away free eight-count Chick-fil-A Nuggets to guests who create or sign into their Chick-fil-A One account with the Chick-fil-A Mobile App. The giveaway is available from Aug. 30 to Sept. 29 at the company’s more than 2,300 restaurants nationwide. Customers can choose…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 9:55:00 PM)
ISLAMABAD — The Taliban say the Afghan Haqqani network founder, Jalaluddin Haqqani, an ex- U.S. ally turned fierce enemy, has died after years of ill health.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahed told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Tuesday that Haqqani died on Monday inside Afghanistan.
(Monday, September 03, 2018 9:30:00 PM)
DES MOINES, Iowa — Shortly after Joe Biden boarded a recent flight from Washington to New York, a string of passengers began stopping at his seat in coach to deliver some version of the same message: Run, Joe, run.
“We’re with you,” one said, according to a Democratic strategist who happened to…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 9:00:00 PM)
General Horoscope for September 4, 2018
We may withdraw from social activities today for a variety of reasons. The Moon’s entry into sensitive Cancer at 8:03 am EDT can turn the volume on reality so high that even a whisper sounds like a shout. Additionally, it may seem as…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 8:50:00 PM)
An 18-year-old man was shot in the groin after a group of West Indian American Day Parade revelers in Brooklyn got into a fight Monday night.
A single gunshot rang out at the corner of Nostrand Ave. and Hawthorne St. in Prospect-Lefferts Gardens at about 7:30 p.m., cops said. Though that corner…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 8:40:00 PM)
Forget about the Cy Young. Put Jacob deGrom in the conversation for MVP.
No, the Mets ace won’t seriously be considered for the league’s top award, though it wouldn’t be that out of the question if he weren’t, well, a Met. Not only did deGrom throw six innings of one-run ball against a dangerous…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 8:35:00 PM)
MOSCOW — A Russian state-owned television channel has a new weekly current affairs program devoted to President Vladimir Putin.
The first episode of “Moscow. Kremlin. Putin.” aired on Sunday night, stressing the Russian president’s work to address various crises and stay in touch with ordinary…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 8:10:00 PM)
SOUTH WINDSOR, Conn. — Police say a Connecticut police officer has died from injuries he sustained while trying to break up a bar fight in South Carolina.
South Windsor Police say 41-year-old Matthew Mainieri was a 20-year veteran of the department. The Hartford Courant reports Mainieri was attempting…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 6:40:00 PM)
After a routine straight-sets victory Monday, Novak Djokovic riffed on the documentary Strokes of Genius about the 2008 Wimbledon final between Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer, won by Nadal in five epic sets.
“I was glued to the TV watching Rafa and Roger,” Djokovic said with a smile. “Really celebrating…
(Monday, September 03, 2018 6:00:00 PM)
NBC News chairman Andy Lack pushed back against accusations that he quashed Ronan Farrow’s investigation into Harvey Weinstein’s alleged sexual assault.
Last week, multiple reports claimed NBC threatened Farrow if he proceeded with his coverage of Weinstein. Farrow’s former producer Rich McHugh,…
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The details of the Deng buyout is interesting and should give us some leverage for dealing with Noah:
I did not know you could reduce a player’s stretch figure if he agreed to accept a lower buyout. I’ve been against stretching Noah until next offseason when/if someone actually commits to accepting a contract with us. But if he’s willing to take less money on the dead years of his buyout in order to sign with a team this year, I’d be happy to stretch him before the season starts and let him try to resume his career somewhere else.
Deng gave up $7.5 million on his contract. If Noah were willing to do that so he could play somewhere else this year, we could pay him his full salary this year and reduce the final year of his contract to ~$12mm, which makes his stretchable value ~$4mm instead of ~$6.5mm.
Either way, given this precedent, it seems even more foolish to give Noah a full buyout now.
Not sure if these guys have been reading my posts, but it’s not bad to see some confirmation that the Jazz sure look like a potential #2 seed this year. (Also, there was no plot twist about the loss of Gordon Hayward — we on this blog know that he had a solid contract year, but was horribly overrated before that.)
I can’t think of a better writer on hoop than Herring. He’s just so smart, so perfectly balancing a statistically based view with the perspective and insight that access to the game and its players brings. It was fun clicking link to link on all his pieces. Including this one:
I really hope AD stays and the Pels get their perfect small forward. If only we could convince them it was Timmy….
While we’re posting links, here’s another good piece:
A reminder that these are human beings we’re mocking on here. I promise to be nicer, Trae Young! Even though you were a terrible choice!
Let’s hope Perry has convinced Noah that he isn’t getting waived this season so that Noah agrees to a buyout. Or let’s hope that Noah has an inflated sense of his own value so he believes he will get more from a new contract than he would lose from the buyout.
I like the jazz a lot, but Gobert gets hurt every year
Rama, the following quote from therticle made me think of Derrick Rose.
But who knows, it could easily be someone else
This makes me feel better about my unending devotion to defending Rudy Gobert and Joe Ingles in any argument basically.
I thought the same thing. Then I thought it could just as easily be Melo.
I mean, the Knicks have plenty of options…Noah?
@3 – I have pegged New Orleans as the team most likely to give us an attractive package for Trey Burke if he continues his stellar play from last season. I don’t think Payton is good. They’ve already demonstrated the willingness to trade a 1st round pick when they moved for Mirotic. They are sound enough defensively to cover for Burke’s weakness on that side. I think he would be a stellar midseason addition for them, and his salary makes him very easy to acquire.
@10 – yeah, but is guard their biggest need? Seems like a good wing would be more important.
Sometimes I forget that Chris Paul (top 3 all-time PG, perennial MVP candidate), Tyson Chandler (DPOY, All-NBA), Anthony Davis (DPOY, All-NBA, All-Defense, perennial MVP candidate) and DeMarcus Cousins (All-NBA, Carmelo Anthony Memorial Volume Chucker of the Year Contender) have all been Hornets in the last ten years, and they still have just a single >50 win season to show for it.
They have one season in franchise history with an SRS above 1.52. That is so goddamn bad.
By market standards, a first round pick for Burke is reasonable deal. But if keeps up his hot play from the end of last year I don’t think I’d do that deal. I just think a mid or bottom half first round pick is unlikely to return a player that good. So we would get worse even though we were getting a “good” price.
If Mirotic suffers a big injury I would be happy to swap them Lee for his expiring contract.
Contract year. If he plays well enough to be worth a 1st-rounder, he’s going to get paid. Next offseason shouldn’t be nearly as stingy as this one.
Troy Brown was the 15th pick, so let’s use his contract as an example:
$3.3M (team option)
$5.1M (team option)
Or Trey Burke at 4/$40M from age 27-30.
That’s assuming that a team actually gives up a 1RP for a guy who measured at 6′ with shoes on, who’s turning 27 and in a contract year with no indication of how much his market value will be.
So no, I don’t think that the Knicks should keep him over a mid-to-late 1RP, and no, I don’t think another team is going to give up a 1RP for the right to negotiate with him as a UFA after the season ends. Kinda seems like a proactive endowment effect to me.
That article does make it seem like acquiring a wing is more important, but only with regards to matching up with Golden State.
I’m projecting that Burke will continue his renaissance and Payton will be underwhelming. In which case, it could be a dynamic upgrade for them.
Either way, I’m optimistic Burke could net us a decent 1st this year, but only if he is playing at the same level he ended last year at and there is a contender with lackluster PG play. I’d say there’s maybe a 15-20% chance of that. And part of me worries we’d still be stupid enough to not trade him at the deadline and lose him for nothing in the summer.
New Orleans gave up a first rounder last year but got 2 years of Mirotic AND got to dump Asik’s contract. Hard to see them or anyone else giving up a decent pick for 3 months of Trey Burke.
“Maybe we can trade this veteran for a draft pick or asset!”
We say that a lot around here. It never actually happens.
It does if you reverse it.
I did handicap it at a 15-20% likelihood.
If Trey repeats his level of production last year, that production plus the ease of acquiring him (no commitment beyond this year and the ability to absorb him without having to match large salaries) makes him the perfect rental to a contending team in need of PG help next year.
This isn’t like asking someone to give us 1st for taking on two more years of Courtney Lee in decline or an expiring center like Kyle O’Quinn who (for whatever reason) isn’t valued by NBA GMs as much as his advanced stats indicate he should be. Trey Burke’s level of play last year, if repeated, could certainly warrant a pick in the 20s.
“Maybe we can trade this veteran for a draft pick or asset!
We say that a lot around here. It never actually happens.”
Bingo – We have a Winner!
Maybe because no one really values our dreck??
I think the Knicks are going to flip Hezonja mid-year for the Sixers’ top-1 protected pick via SAC. Maybe they’ll throw in a pair of 2nds as a sweetener. And cash. And the Eric Jr. Twitter account. And Embiid. And then Embiid will take a discount to play next to Future Knicks Star PG™ Frank Ntilikina and Future Knicks (Definitely Not A Volume Chucker) Superstar™ Kevin Knox and Future Knicks DPOY™ Mitch Robinson. Hell, he’ll even move to PF to play next to our rising young core!
Top-1 protected? Pass.
Odds are Burke will tear up the league and be a coveted free agent; why would someone trade anything for him when they can just sign him up; we are going to lose him. It is what it is.
How much do you want to bet?
is there another dude named Burke that you guys are so high on? stellar play? trade for a 1? tear up the league? huh who what?
21 pts/36 on 56.3 TS% with an AST% > 36% and TOV < 10% on a minimum salary is "dreck"?!
If you want to come out and say Trey Burke will not repeat his performance next year, by all means go ahead.
The only argument put forth today was that "IF" he can, we should be able to get a pick in the mid 20s for him.
The only value we’re getting out of Burke is if he plays really well and re-signs. It’s extremely unlikely that he plays well enough at an exact ratio that a) we still want to trade him b) someone with assets wants him c) he won’t want to simply wait for free agency to get a better deal or simply more options.
Once Burke makes First Team All-NBA, are we allowed to give him the supermax?
The fact that Burke is short and also older might mean that even if he continues to play well this year, he may not command a huge overpay for his services. I’m hoping we get to keep the guy.
So a starting point guard with 21 pts/36 on 56.3 TS% with an AST% > 36% and TOV < 10% on a low salary isn't tradeable to a contender who needs a point guard for their first round pick next year? I don't believe that. The receiving team will be thinking he's cheap now and doesn't fill up their cap spaceand that a typical pick in the second half of the first round doesn't perform like that, and they would be right.
But it is a good point that he may get overpaid with his next contract. A lot of teams will be spending and they can't all get the top free agents.
This is the time of year when Knickerblogger is at its most optimistic. Most of it is wishful thinking. But I will say that this year we have more players to enthuse about their upside than we usually do. We only have Thomas and Noah as veterans who are just as likely to be worse than better than last year. If some of the young guys do well that would be fun, even without having a wnning team
I like Burke. IMO, he would be high quality backup and a perfect fit next to Frank in certain lineups. I know everyone here wants to keep tanking, but we all know they aren’t going to do that. Next year they are going add a max free agent, sign KP to a max contract, add another pick, sign some of our own players back, go well over the cap, and move forward with that team. The key is going to be adding Burke and any other players we want keep at fair prices so if we want to continue making trades/moves, we can continue to do so.
The point is that Burke’s production is entirely hypothetical. Not one of us has any idea if what he showed in those 30 something games is who he is as a player or not.
If he maintains the same stats then yeah, of course he’s tradeable. But the only team with good chances for the playoffs that even needs a Point Guard is New Orleans, and they’ll give Payton a chance and they could always just move Holiday back and grab wing players.
It’s very unrealistic to expect a team to trade a first rounder for a guy who could be had last year off the scrap heap and would be a rental anyway, even if he plays well.
Of course there’s a lot to be optimistic about. Something like half of the roster is under rookie-scale contract. They didn’t sign another Lee, Noah or Hardaway. They didn’t package future picks to get out of those contracts. They didn’t waive anyone. They didn’t package picks or rookies to move up a couple slots in the draft (I’d have done it for Doncic though).
Don’t call the Burke talk optimism, though. It’s pure fantasy. It’s like scratching off only part a match-3 lotto ticket, finding a pair of $20 symbols and going around asking people if they’d pay you $15 for it.
I’ll take your bet. Define the terms. Not a stat person …what does a top 10 – 15 PG in the league look like when painted in advanced stats?
I don’t agree with this. Being on the scrap heap last year has nothing to do with what teams will think next year if Burke proves to actually be really good. And teams do trade for players who are going to be free agents the next year. They hope having the guy already playing for them will make him easier to re-sign. That said, I find it very hard to believe that Burke will be great. A much more likely outcome is that he is usable at the pro level, but not great shakes if he plays on the first unit. Playing as a starter tends to expose weaknesses that don’t come up when you come off the bench. That could happen to him.
Burke’s production is not “entirely hypothetical.” Nor is it “pure fantasy.” He’s essentially Jeremy Lin 2.0, meaning that there will likely be some regression but even so, he’s still at worst a solid rotation player. He had an outstanding half-season in the G-League followed by an outstanding half-season in the NBA.
If you think we shouldn’t hold our breath for a crazy trade offer or sign him to a big contract, sure, I agree. But everything Burke did last year was consistent with who he was initially projected to be as a lottery pick and nothing he posted (other than perhaps an unsustainably high 2ptFG%) is all that far removed from his established skillset. He’s a very skilled ball-handler and passer, and scored reasonably efficiently at all three levels. And he was 25 years old, which is a common age for PGs to turn the corner.
My hopes for Trey Burke are for him to put up Kemba Walker numbers and then for us to attach him to Courtney Lee in a trade for Danny Green’s expiring contract. A 1RP would be nice, but $40M+ in cap space to add a player or two Porzingis, Zion, Knox, and Ntilikina? That’s more like it.
What I mean by his production is hypothetical is not that he did not produce, he did and very well for a limited amount of games, it’s just that people seem to be guaranteeing he’ll be this guy from now on and that’s a done thing. We haven’t seen him play even a minute yet, we can’t possibly know if he is a solid starter.
Teams trade for expiring contracts, yeah, but my point was more about: for a trade scenario to come up, he has to be good enough to warrant
1) a team willing to trade for him to be sure he’ll be impactful enough even if he bails next season
2) the Knicks not wanting to keep him while he’s playing very well.
Those two scenarios are incredibly unlikely to happen at the same time. If he’s good enough that a team with playoff aspirations is willing to give a pretty good asset for a 6 month rental of him, then why the hell would we be trading this 26 year old dude that’s very fucking good?
This is what I mean when I say a trade is probably absurd to think about. In the scenarios where he doesn’t develop, he won’t have trade value; in the scenarios where he does, why wouldn’t the Knicks just keep him, when he fits a need and is young enough to be promising plus would probably be inclined to re-signed with the team that put him on the map once more?
If Trey does well the Knicks will think they can sign him on a “hometown” discount. Then we’ll overpay him.
Because the knicks will try to trade him if they think there is a market for him, as they should, and once he becomes available we lose our levarage in any “home town discount” scenario if he doesn’t get moved. This is not an ideal situation to get back a good return because he is expiring. He would have to play extremely well, lo get back any return that exceeds his value to us as a non contending team and other teams know that so they won’t offer much even if he continues to breakout. In all likelihood he is worth a second round pick to someone and we will take it. Which we shouldn’t since we need him.
Attaching him to Lee for space is also questionable, cuz we are gonna waste our cap on Kyrie the injury prone non defense shiny object and/or butler our other shiny object over 30.
Come to think of it, over paying Burke ain’t such a bad outcome.
I agree it’s unlikely that the Knicks trade Burke, for all of the reasons given above. But they do have other guards on the roster, and they will see those guys in practice. They then might make a trade for the traditional reason that the backup guy is almost as good and they can get something useful for the starter. In the case of the Knicks, maybe they will have Burke starting with THJ, Knox, Hezonja and Kanter; but then think they could do better with Ntilikina because that lineup needs defense more than scoring. But assuming we will have two starting quality point guards on the roster is a big big if, and I have no faith at all that our current management values defense over offense.
The best hope for Burke is that he plays like a $20+ million player (e.g. Isaiah Thomas) and we sign him for $10 million. Second best would be that he plays like a $12 million player and we sign him to a mid-level deal or trade him for cap relief or real assets.
Worst outcome is that he plays like Isaiah Thomas, we win 10 extra games because of him, and we lose him for nothing.
Actually, it’s like watching someone produce a specific way for three months and thinking that it’s reasonable to be cautiously optimistic that he might be able to reach the height he already reached for another three months.
Also, I was talking about an NBA GM (Dell Demps) who (since drafting Anthony Davis in 2012) traded his first round pick in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, and 2018. And the one guy he did draft in 2016 (Buddy Hield) was traded before he finished his rookie season. This isn’t exactly Daryl Morey or Sam Hinkie.