Knicks Morning News (2017.06.12)

  • [ESPN] Knicks scheduled to work out Louisville’s Donovan Mitchell before draft
    (Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:55:31 PM)

    Knicks scheduled to work out Louisville’s Donovan Mitchell before draft

  • [NYTimes] On Pro Basketball: J.R. Smith Is a Dangerous Man on a Team With Nothing to Lose
    (Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:56:14 PM)

    One loss from losing in the N.B.A. finals, the Cavaliers cannot compete without contributions from role players like Smith, who has shone in wins over the Warriors.

  • [NYTimes] On Pro Basketball: A Lesson From the Warriors and the Cavaliers: The Draft Can’t Help You Now
    (Sunday, June 11, 2017 6:40:53 PM)

    The N.B.A. finals, as usual, are a showcase for teams built around star players in their prime. Also-rans can count only on high picks and distant hopes.

  • [NYTimes] Sebastian Telfair, Former N.B.A. Guard, Is Arrested on Gun Charges
    (Monday, June 12, 2017 3:42:24 AM)

    The police said Mr. Telfair, 32, had a bulletproof vest and several handguns during a traffic stop in Brooklyn.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks schedule workout with PG Donovan Mitchell
    (Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:35:11 PM)

    Louisville guard Donovan Mitchell is slated to work out with the knicks prior to the NBA draft, according to ESPN.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks schedule workouts with Luke Kennard, Malik Monk
    (Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:20:53 AM)

    The Knicks will work out former Kentucky shooting guard Malik Monk and former Duke guard Luke Kennard.

  • 130 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2017.06.12)”

    I only recently learned about the upcoming addition of two 2-way contracts per team for next season from this blog and you guys. IMHO, this is exactly what the league needs if it’s to improve the level of play.

    In fact, they need to expand that beyond just two contracts per team. I’d say go with ten. That would serve to provide better quality control towards player development leaguewise. And would make the D-League even more relevant.

    Interesting news out of LakerLand that has peripheral importance to us —

    1) Lonzo Ball apparently might have looked out of shape during his workout with them

    2) Dennis Smith apparently looked great, possibly had a 48″ (!) vertical?

    You’d have to imagine that if they actually really wanted Smith, they’d have to deal the pick, though, right? Because Smith at #2 seems like a misapplied use of assets.

    I’ve always felt that Smith’s stock was going to go up during the workout season because his weaknesses (defensive effort and attitude) are always minimized in those 1-0 settings and his strengths (ridiculous athleticism) are maximized. If the Lakers want Smith, they probably shouldn’t drop any lower than 5th. Would Sac trade 5+10 to get to 2 to get Ball? Now THAT seems like a misapplied use of assets but maybe they could get something else back from the Lakers in that setting – like maybe 2+28 for 5+10?

    Oh, yeah, I don’t mean drop way down, but even something as simple as #2 to #4 so that Phoenix can make sure that it gets Josh Jackson (who seems to fit their team like a glove). If you take Smith at #2, you’re almost certainly leaving something on the table, asset-wise. Even if it is only a second-round pick or whatever.

    LAL gets Bledsoe and #4

    PHX gets #2 and Russell

    Feel like LAL would say no to that, but Bledsoe could be appealing to them as far as building a more playoff ready team in anticipation of George signing next summer.

    @6
    I can imagine the Lakers would say no to that as well. I just don’t see any reason to add Bledsoe AND draft DSJ if he’s their target. Plus, Russell and the #2 are a bit much for Bledsoe and the 4th pick

    I really have zero feeling for what Bledsoe’s trade value is.
    On the one hand, he’s productive, athletic, a good defender.
    On the other, he’s an injury risk and makes $15MM and is only under contract for this year and next.

    @7 agree – if the Lakers got Bledsoe it’d actually make much more sense for them to draft Josh Jackson rather than Smith!

    Although Monk is the kind of player I normally wouldn’t like and Mitchell is maybe more the sort of player I would like, I would rather us take Monk than Mitchell in the admittedly unlikely event that ended up being the decision.

    It’s easy, in this situation to be reminded of L.A. passing on Jahlil Okafor… IMHO, it would be kind of ridiculous to give up on Lonzo because of the workout. It’s a red flag but his body of work in college should supersede that. Also the NBA isn’t suburban New Jersey so I don’t think Lavar is really a problem.

    My issue with Lonzo Ball (if I were the Lakers FO) is that yes, his body of work at UCLA was great, but it’s clearly a bad sign that someone shows up to what is probably the biggest workout of his life out of shape. That could be consistent with the idea (pretty much because of his father) that he already thinks he’s made it and isn’t willing to put in the work.

    So Ian Begley is saying that the Knicks are going to work out Donovan Mitchell soon.

    One small sample thing:

    6 days after Dennis Smith put up his signature performance against Duke (32p/4r/6a), he played Donovan Mitchell and Louisville — and Mitchell held him to 8 points on 3/12 shooting with 5 turnovers. Meanwhile Mitchell had a 28/8/5 game with 2 steals that day.

    Nothing is in place but fans should know NY is doing their work to acquire another 1st if possible. https://t.co/UEl9IL1vHx— Sports News (@JSports_ent) June 12, 2017

    I’m fine with this as long as we don’t have to give anything up in the deal:)

    i don’t like mitchell as a prospect… if ppl don’t like tatum for his shot selection then you are going to hate mitchell… to me he’s about the same as terry rozier.. who’s been an ok bench guy for the celts but nothing special… and at #8 in this draft there are just better opportunities than something like that….

    if ball doesn’t get taken by the lakers and he’s not working out for other teams there’s a good possibility he falls to the knicks… he would be a lot better than the others names being floated around….

    If Ball falls to 8 it’d be incontrovertible proof that the preceding 7 front offices are idiots. The Lakers were thinking about drafting KP and then they put him through an apparently grueling workout with full on post play and the thought he was out of shape and decided not to pick him, so I wouldn’t put too much stock in their impressions from a workout.

    I’m extremely down for the scenario. Also down for trading up a few spots if Ball is available at 5 or so

    i don’t think it would be that big of a fall.. i mean yea… he’s been talked about as a consensus top 2 pick for the whole year but prospects who don’t score that much don’t typically get picked in the top 3 at all… he would have the lowest pts per 40 of any domestic prospect drafted in the top 5… the only who comes close is hasheem thabeet…

    all of these prospects in the top 7 are extremely close.. and they are all pretty excellent… so any minor thing that gains traction.. like his dad.. or poor workouts… can have all these teams just turn to another pretty good prospect and just avoid all those headaches….

    if the lakers pass on ball.. all it would take is the magic to also pass on him and i think he’ll be there for us…

    Man, the Sixers sure would be lucky if the Lakers passed on Ball. He’d fit them pretty perfectly.

    You guys are dreaming. None of the reasons anyone is providing will change the fact that Ball is going to be one of the very earliest picks in this draft.

    There’s very little chance Ball would get past Philly, Phoenix, Sacramento, Orlando and Minnesota even if he gets past the Lakers. Hard to see 5 teams passing on him.

    If I am the Lakers I’d ask for the #5 & #10 picks plus WCS and see if the Kings bite at the chance to get Ball. They could even throw in Clarkson who sucks but might have value to some GMs.

    when there is as much talent as there is in this draft… all it takes is one minor thing to gain traction.. and one or three weird picks… to have someone unexpectedly slide… it happened to kawhi… it happened to paul pierce… hell rashard lewis fell all the way to the second round… and it happened as recently with andre drummond…

    some had reasons.. some maybe had no reason… but it happens… i don’t think it’s a likely occurrence but if the lakers pass up on him there are scenarios where ball starts sliding… it’s not like he’s head and shoulders above fox or smith or tatum or jackson or isaac… and those are already five names you could already make a good case to pick instead of ball…

    when there is as much talent as there is in this draft… all it takes is one minor thing to gain traction.. and one or three weird picks… to have someone unexpectedly slide… it happened to kawhi… it happened to paul pierce… hell rashard lewis fell all the way to the second round… and it happened as recently with andre drummond…

    I think Myles Turner will be added to this list in time. Heck I’d do it now.

    turner wasn’t really a consensus top 10 pick… i think a lot of mocks had him in that area so i don’t think it was expected… kawhi, pierce and drummond were pretty much top 5 picks throughout the process… and lewis was always considered a lotto pick… he was invited into the green room…

    teams fall in love with a prospect during the whole process… and so if they haven’t worked out a guy that may have been higher on their board.. it’s going to take a lot for them to overrule their initial instinct… so if ball really doesn’t do anymore workouts.. then i can def see him falling precipitously…

    If the Lakers pass on Ball, no way he slips past Philly, unless some David Lynchian ethereal other world presents itself on draft night.

    If would make for a very fun, drama-filled draft night, though, if the Lakers pass on him.

    I’m pretty sure Ball is at the top of our list over Fultz (at least that’s the way the best writers make it sound) so if by some miracle Ball drops to 8 or we trade up we would definitely pick him.

    Imagine him throwing alley oops to KP from 30 feet out. It’d be really something.

    If Ball drops to #8, he should ask Adam Silver to ban LaVar from all NBA arenas.

    If Ball drops to #8, he should ask Adam Silver to ban LaVar from all NBA arenas

    Chuuch! Cathedral! Ism! lol +(whatever Melo’s annual salary is after the trade kicker here)

    You know..the more I think about it, our pick almost HAS to be Ntilikina or Mitchell. This team would have been so much better if the defense could limit guard penetration. With the measurables and defensive rep Ntilikina and Mitchell have, they SHOULD be able to help in that department- especially Ntilikina. He’s 18 and 6’5″ he could still be growing. Even if he doesn’t get taller, that wingspan will allow him to possibly the 1-4 positions as he fills out. I don’t want to compare Ntilikina and Draymond, but I do want to evoke his name to further my point. Draymond is barely 6’6″. Do you know why he plays the 4? It’s not because he’s incredibly strong and athletic like Chuck was. It’s the lack of lateral quickness to some degree keeping him from being a full time wing, and that wingspan. That wingspan is a big reason why he can check players bigger than he is. That and he’s pretty strong for a generously listed 6’7″ 240 lb player. If Ntilikina can come anywhere near having the effect on our team defense that Draymond has on the Dubs’ D, that will make it a very successful draft for Phil, IMO. Anything else is icing on the cake. Can you imagine Phil getting that extra 1st and landing Mitchell as well? That future backcourt could be phenomenal defensively, no?

    kawhi, pierce and drummond were pretty much top 5 picks throughout the process… and lewis was always considered a lotto pick… he was invited into the green room…

    Yeah, D’Andre Jordan was considered a top-10 pick and dropped all the way down to #35 on draft day.

    I have no idea what teams were afraid of, unless in 2008 people really valued free-throw shooting for some reason.

    Undersized guys, older guys, and guys from smaller programs tend to get passed over and then prove the league wrong. It’s weird that a young, giant, SEC guy would fall like that, just to go on to make multiple all-NBA teams.

    Fifty-cent psychoanalysis: Ball seems like a pretty humble, coachable kid to me. The idea that he will be chronically out-of-shape and/or rest on his laurels seems like a stretch.

    @31

    He sometimes seems a little too relaxed on the court, but all reports indicate that he is, as you say, humble and coachable, and he si obviously a very unselfish teammate on the court.

    His father is a poison however. I feel bad for Lonzo.

    @29
    I’d love for the Knicks to get Ntilikina and Mitchell. What a defensive backcourt that would be!

    However, I think that #8 is a bit too soon for Mitchell, but #15 (the earliest of the Blazer picks the Knicks are interested in) is probably too late for him. So, they’d probably have to get the #12 from Detroit to have a chance.

    Possible? They are supposedly looking to unload Reggie Jackson. Ugh.

    I wonder if the Knicks would gamble and consider trading next year’s #1 for one this year?

    I wonder if the Knicks would gamble and consider trading next year’s #1 for one this year?

    Never trade first round picks while you suck. Even for other another first round pick.

    I wonder, has it ever actually paid off for a team to trade their future first rounders when they sucked? It’s happened a lot and I believe it has always gone disastrous, but has it ever actually worked out for a sub .500 team to trade a future first rounder?

    Even Ntilikina knows that he’s destined to be a Knick:

    http://nypost.com/2017/06/12/mystery-french-draft-prospect-im-built-for-knicks-in-every-way/

    “I watch a lot of [NBA] basketball games,’’ Ntilikina told The Post in a phone interview Monday from France on the eve of his participation in the French league finals. “The Knicks [have] a good history. The game they play – the triangle offense – is close to the game I play in France with my team. A lot of movement. I think to play over there, I would fit with them. It would be great to play for them.’’

    We must all embrace our destiny.

    No one has really mentioned this but is there at least a chance that Thibs would trade Rubio for Noah straight up?

    I wonder, has it ever actually paid off for a team to trade their future first rounders when they sucked? It’s happened a lot and I believe it has always gone disastrous, but has it ever actually worked out for a sub .500 team to trade a future first rounder?

    I’m not sure if it fits the criteria (becuse I’m not 100% I know wht you’re asking), but in 2005, the 26-56 Jazz traded a 2006 first rounder to select Deron Williams and won 15 more games the next year and 50+ for several years to come. (The 2007 pick ended up being “Joel Freeland” with the 30th pick).

    Cuban might be scheming to trade his pick with Minny and steal Frank from us. If he succeeded that might only leave us Smith, Markkanen or Monk as top prospects to choose from.

    I wonder, has it ever actually paid off for a team to trade their future first rounders when they sucked? It’s happened a lot and I believe it has always gone disastrous, but has it ever actually worked out for a sub .500 team to trade a future first rounder?

    Obviously the KG trade doesn’t count though it technically fits. What about when the Clips pre-CP3 traded a future first (Fab Melo) to OKC for Bledsoe?

    Apparently, the Lakers LOVED Smith Jr. in his workout, but they also possibly made a promise to Jackson? More likely they’re just bullshitting everyone.

    He’s 18 and 6’5? he could still be growing. Even if he doesn’t get taller, that wingspan will allow him to possibly the 1-4 positions as he fills out.

    Umm..yea..typos abound! LOL..I’m pretty sure yal got what I meant to say, but it bothers me- so now that I see it I’m gonna correct it lol. It was meant to say “He’s 18 and 6’5″, so he COULD still be growing. Even if he doesn’t get taller, that wingspan will allow him to possibly defend the 1-4 positions as he fills out.”

    oops

    So Michael Sweetney admitted he tried to kill himself in his rookie season with the Knicks. Jesus, is playing for us that bad?

    @ClashFan

    Getting both Frank and Mitchell would make for a strong defensive backcourt, especially if they can cajol Melo to play D again.

    Cuban might be scheming to trade his pick with Minny and steal Frank from us. If he succeeded that might only leave us Smith, Markkanen or Monk as top prospects to choose from.

    For me, the only thing worse than not getting the player we want would be losing him to Cuban. Well I guess losing him to Golden State or San Antonio would be worse, but I can’t see that happening.

    If Cuban trades up with Minny for Frank it means we get Isaac. I’d be down with that.

    Picking Issac also probably means Ron Baker, Chasson Randle or Travis Trice is your starting PG next season.

    And you’d still have to move Melo to get Issac any PT.

    Why is that? Why can’t the Kings take Tatum at 5 and the Magic take Isaac at 6? Dallas takes Frank at 7 and we choose from Smith, Monk, Mitchell or a big?

    In addition, it might cost the Mavs fewer assests to just swap picks with the Knicks if they really want Frank THAT badly.

    The problem the Mavs have in trading above the Knicks is that they’re lacking for assets. Seth Curry, JJ Barea and Yogi Ferrell would only interest a PG poor team like the Knicks. The other 7 higher picking teams all have better PGs.

    There are solid stopgap PG’s in FA this year. We don’t have to get a starting PG in this draft.

    Real GM had something about the Wolves being interested in signing Holliday, Hill or Teague.

    There are solid stopgap PG’s in FA this year. We don’t have to get a starting PG in this draft.

    The Knicks, unless they overpay, ain’t getting any of those FAs. Derrick Rose was a stopgap. It’s time for better.

    About the only way that the Mavs could get the 7th pick would be to offer a future 1st. Which could happen.

    How about beating Dallas to the punch and offering the 2020 1st for this year’s 7th pick and Rubio?

    I’m thinking that we swap picks with them as part of a Lee for Rubio deal. Of course they can have Noah instead of Lee if they insist. Instead of actually making the swap we can just get their assurance that they won’t trade the pick or draft Frank.

    Why is that? Why can’t the Kings take Tatum at 5 and the Magic take Isaac at 6? Dallas takes Frank at 7 and we choose from Smith, Monk, Mitchell or a big?

    Agreed. No way Isaac falls past Hammond and the Magic. Isaac likely reminds him too much of Giannis at SF

    I still think (though maybe it is just wishful thinking) that Monk will go in the top 6. Someone’s gonna convince themselves that he could be the next Stephen Curry. If the Knicks end up with him at 8, that’s going to be what I hope for…

    As for trading the Knicks #1 next year for one this year? I’d do it for a top 10 pick, but probably not any lower.

    Picking Issac also probably means Ron Baker, Chasson Randle or Travis Trice is your starting PG next season.

    Its not like we’re contending for a title next season.

    @62 Agreed. Isaac is never getting passed Orlando at 6. If Dallas swaps with Minny we’ll probably be choosing between Smith and Monk.

    Picking Issac also probably means Ron Baker, Chasson Randle or Travis Trice is your starting PG next season.

    It’s like last season when people were like “you can’t go into next year with Grant/Galloway as your PG”, but we might as well have done that. We do need a point guard who doesn’t suck if we’re ever going to be good, but we don’t have to get him this season, because we’re not going to be a title contender next year.

    Grant/Galloway would have put us at 15 wins for the season. Maybe you would have liked that but not me.

    are we literally talking about this during the NBA Finals

    we have like literally 5 months to talk about upside and synergy

    Love is killing the Cavs on both ends like he has his house on g state in 5.

    Good show, Warriors and NBA. Who likes competition anyway? Get all those pesky opponents giving the Warriors fits onto the same team.

    GIVE ME A CLOSE GAME TO THE FINAL POSSESSION AND I WILL NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE KNICKS AGAIN, BASKETBALL GODS

    Well if iggy leaves LeBron could just take his place.

    Good call. In fact, this thing’s getting a little too close. I wish they could just switch jerseys now.

    Good call. In fact, this thing’s getting a little too close. I wish they could just switch jerseys now.

    u mad?

    GIVE ME A CLOSE GAME TO THE FINAL POSSESSION AND I WILL NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE KNICKS AGAIN, BASKETBALL GODS

    If this happens, I get to blame you for the Knicks’ problems from then on.

    You have to give the Cavs credit win or lose. They’re leaving it all out there.

    The Warriors adding Kevin Durant is almost a joke.

    Disagree. I think it’s right up there with Jordan playing through the flu and Willis Reed coming out of the tunnel.

    Does Mark Jackson think that Harrison Barnes ever didn’t understand that it made sense to swap him with Durant?

    Durant’s having a good game, but it’s only Game 5, so fuck that unclutch asshole.

    Kevin Durant currently has 39 points on 14-19 shooting

    14-19 unclutch shots, though. You’ve got to take that into consideration.

    Jordan playing through the flu

    it was a hangover

    What would happen to the nba if lebron was a fa and wanted to get on the warriors for the mle?

    I’d veto it if I were the commissioner

    The Cavs should have run ISO drives for LeGoat all game.

    What a feel good story, who would have thought in their wildest dreams that adding the 2nd best player in the NBA to a 73 win team would end this way?

    I’m tearing up.

    It’s weird how the Cavs congratulated KD more than the Warriors did.

    Hate to tell you this, DS, but Durant is signing a max extension with Golden State.

    What’s the Warriors cap situation to resign Curry + Durant? Do they need to renounce Iggy and someone else?

    I think Iggy and Livingston might be on the chopping block. I think McCaw could fill the Iggy role, but I wonder how big a step forward he’ll take next season.

    I’m pretty sure they have bird rights to Miller and Livingston but it’s going to cost a lot in taxes.
    I guess they have some exception money to use on anyone who wants a title too.

    Hate to tell you this, DS, but Durant is signing a max extension with Golden State.

    Yup. In a way it’s better to have someone to root against than to not care, though.

    After watching this finals and seeing that the NBA game at its highest level has become a glorified 3 point shooting contest, I don’t see how any franchise would take a player who can’t consistently nail three pointers.

    Love’s disappearing act in yet another Finals make him wonderful trade bait.

    Is there any way for Cleveland to improve without moving Love? The only thing that matters is matching up with GS and there should be deals out there for Love that will help them do that. Are there any veterans willing to take the MLE who’d move the needle at all?

    With the way Love plays in the Finals against the Warriors removing him would improve their team.

    What really sucks is that this is probably a great draft for GSW to buy some talent in the second round that could possibly contribute.

    Guys like Devin Robinson( UF), Wesley Iwundu(KSU), Cam Oliver( UN), and Josh Hart(UV)would be some nice possible mid-late 2nd rd pick ups.

    Theres really nothing without moving love…. and they will probably move him but not sure what they could take back that would make sense…

    Theres no point in any case.. this cavs iteration is too bad defensively to seriously challenge the warriors… lebron and cp3 need to meet up in SA to take out this warriors team….

    The only teams I think might trade for Love are Detroit, Utah, and possibly Sac just cause their Sacramento. Why would team trade for Love when he doesn’t help you win a championship over Cleveland or GSW? You can’t put him next to Horford so Boston doesn’t seem like a fit. Another team could be OKC but what do they have?

    Can the Cavs take Melo in their cap just by trading Love? If I’m the Knicks, I’m very interested if I can flip Love to another team. Love was 2/8, -21 tonight.

    However, if I’m the Cavs, I’m looking to unload Tristan Thompson somewhere and try to get a wing shooter back. I’m not sure where that can be found, but TT is pretty much worthless vs. GS. Move Love to C vs. them. More shooters.

    Like I said a few days ago, everyone needs waves of shooters vs. GS.

    Why would team trade for Love when he doesn’t help you win a championship over Cleveland or GSW?

    By this logic no team should aim to improve at all since Cleveland and GSW are so incredible it would take maybe CP3 to make a difference.

    Honestly if I am the Cavs I think I would see if Portland was interested in Love for Harkless, Crabbe, and a pick. I am not sure they could get the pick and I know Portland is trying to cut money but he would give them rebounding and 3pt shooting. They are kind of stuck in no man land any way so why not. plus it saves them about $8m

    If the Warriors can sign KD then I think it’s fine for Porzingis to take PEDs.

    Cavs will definitely make a big move, and Love probably has value around the league, but it might be diminishing.

    More than anything they should look to switch out tyron lue… he is not a good coach…

    I wonder if the Knicks can trade KOQ to Portland for salary and that 15th pick and then swap Courtney Lee for another one in the first round. That would be awesome and the best thing for us. Cost controlled talent and a possible really young good core.

    If the Warriors can sign KD then I think it’s fine for Porzingis to take PEDs.

    Why not? Lebron does.

    I’m pretty sure they have bird rights to Miller and Livingston but it’s going to cost a lot in taxes.
    I guess they have some exception money to use on anyone who wants a title too

    Who is Miller?

    Lacob is printing money right now. Unless San Francisco somehow undoes its standing as a place where a literal shed goes for $750k, he’s going to spend money while their window is open. $50M in taxes is probably nothing compared to the increased value of the franchise after multiple championships. And they’re opening a new stadium.

    I think Love for Paul George makes sense for both sides- Indiana gets good return for a guy who’s probably going to leave after next year and Cleveland gets a guy who’s probably a better fit against GS. I think George is overrated but he’d be a very good third option and is a much more versatile defender than Love.

    Tristan Thompson and Frye can be traded straight up for Melo or someone with similar salary.

    I think they need to keep Love at C and move Thompson plus another piece for an elite wing defender–Lebron cannot defend KD effectively while handling that offensive load. Idk how they do that however.

    KP doing bodyweight squats while seemingly wearing a diaper while the Warriors celebrate a title is a fitting metaphor

    I wonder..with Zaza almost surely out of their price range and it bein a TOTALLY idiotic move to not give KD an extension- would they consider doing a Lee, Willy & both this year’s 2nds swap for Thompson and a 1st either in this draft or next year’s draft? And if you were the Knicks, would you do it? I look at it as Thompson is 3rd or 4th fiddle at best behind 2 world class players, so he may be expendable especially with Curry being severely underpaid. I think it might be a good move for both teams. Even better if they like KOQ better than Willy and asks for him instead. Thoughts?

    KP doing bodyweight squats while seemingly wearing a diaper while the Warriors celebrate a title is a fitting metaphor

    Never under estimate a persons metabolism while they are lifting heavy weights………….

    “would they consider doing a Lee, Willy & both this year’s 2nds swap for Thompson and a 1st either in this draft or next year’s draft? And if you were the Knicks, would you do it?”

    Um, what?

    Also, as far as the Cavs go..if they want Melo, then a Love/Melo swap works better for them as they would need to keep Tristan Thompson to balance the lineup. Then maybe they can go the GS route and sign a cheap center. Wait..don’t they still have Bogut? They may not have to sign a C at all. Melo at the 4 gives them the same defense (maybe better) and not much of a dropoff in rebounding considering Thompson’s ability there. I think Melo- especially at this stage is much better in all aspects as a 4 as opposed to a 3. His ability to create from the 4 would open up so much for the Cavs offense. Even then, the Cavs would need to fortify the bench or get improvement from both D Wills and retain Korver while dumping JR and adding a younger wing for the bench. Cleveland’s a great team..they just ran into a buzzsaw. I don’t think they need to do a whole lot to compete with GS. Remember, they had big additions in-season- and one got hurt. Maybe LeBron can defend a KD more effectively if he has another creator out there with him.

    In tonight’s game..Cleveland just had a hard time deciding who to guard. KD, Klay, and Curry were open way more than they should have been. I don’t know if that fact speaks more to the Dubs’ offense or the Cavs defense. Either way..Lue is clearly not in Kerr’s class as a coach, but he’s improving. So again, Cleveland isn’t as far off as they looked.

    @ 119 I meant Iggy. I don’t know why I had the other Andre on my mind. lol

    “would they consider doing a Lee, Willy & both this year’s 2nds swap for Thompson and a 1st either in this draft or next year’s draft? And if you were the Knicks, would you do it?”

    Um, what?

    I know, lol

    Okay, okay, yes, he won the NBA Finals MVP and all, but until he wins the NBA Finals MVP after hitting the game-winning three in the closing seconds of Game 7, then Durant is still a loser.

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