Knicks Morning News (2015.12.24)

  • [New York Times] Warriors Beat Jazz 103-85 to Remain Unbeaten at Home (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 07:12:35 GMT)

    Fresh from a much-needed, four-day break that included two days with no practice, the Golden State Warriors showed no signs of slowing down.

  • [New York Times] Nowitzki Rises Above Shaq Milestone as Mavs Edge Nets (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 06:09:27 GMT)

    Presented with the five names of those ahead of him on the NBA career scoring list after passing a major personal milestone, Dirk Nowitzki responded as if it was music to his ears

  • [New York Times] Thunder Rout Lakers Again, 120-85 (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 05:57:49 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook had 23 points, eight assists and eight rebounds, and the Oklahoma City Thunder steamrolled the Los Angeles Lakers for the second time in five days, 120-85 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Dirk Nowitzki Moves Up Scoring List and Downs the Nets (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 05:57:13 GMT)

    The Dallas Mavericks earned a 119-118 road victory over the Nets on Wednesday night, which marked Dirk Nowitzki’s move into sixth place on the N.B.A.’s career scoring list.

  • [New York Times] Foye Scores 31 Points, Nuggets Bounce Back to Beat Suns (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 05:51:48 GMT)

    The Denver Nuggets’ leading scorer was hurt. Another starter was out due to illness.

  • [New York Times] Bucks Shoot 60 Percent, Drop 76ers to 1-30 With 113-100 Win (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 04:51:34 GMT)

    Instead of a handshake or a pat on the back, Giannis Antetokounmpo received a text message from Milwaukee Bucks coach Jason Kidd.

  • [New York Times] Cavaliers 91, Knicks 84: Without Carmelo Anthony, Knicks Put Up Fight but Fall to Cavaliers (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 04:39:43 GMT)

    Kristaps Porzingis finished with a team-high 23 points and added 13 rebounds, but LeBron James led Cleveland to a victory as Anthony sat out with a sprained ankle.

  • [New York Times] James Scores 24, Cavaliers Beat Short-Handed Knicks 91-84 (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 04:33:39 GMT)

    LeBron James acknowledged the Cleveland Cavaliers didn’t play their best Wednesday night, but he was at his best when it mattered most.

  • [New York Times] Nowitzki Passes Shaq, Helps Mavs Pull Out OT Win Over Nets (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 04:24:43 GMT)

    Dirk Nowitzki talked about how much it meant to him, after working so hard, so long to get it.

  • [New York Times] Sports of The Times: Carmelo Anthony Tries to Drown Out the Din of Gunshots (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:47:11 GMT)

    Few can lay better claim than Anthony to understanding, instinctively, the psychological and corporeal toll taken by poverty, despair and gun violence.

  • [New York Times] Teague, Millsap Pace Hawks in 107-100 Win Over Pistons (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:45:48 GMT)

    Jeff Teague scored 23 points, Paul Millsap added 18 and the Atlanta Hawks beat the Pistons 107-100 Wednesday night for their fifth straight win.

  • [New York Times] Sacramento Hangs On for 108-106 Victory at Indiana (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:39:40 GMT)

    DeMarcus Cousins delivered the big shots inside.

  • [New York Times] Pelicans Beats Trail Blazers 115-89 (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:39:37 GMT)

    Anthony Davis scored 28 points and grabbed 12 rebounds to lead the New Orleans Pelicans to a 115-89 victory over the Portland Trail Blazers on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Leonard, Spurs Beat Up Wolves for 7th Straight Win, 108-83 (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:30:47 GMT)

    Kawhi Leonard had 19 points and six rebounds, and the San Antonio Spurs bullied the young Minnesota Timberwolves in the paint during a 108-83 victory Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Cavaliers Down Knicks 91-84 for Early Christmas Cheer (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:09:27 GMT)

    Kevin Love had 23 points and 13 rebounds and forward LeBron James added 24 points, nine rebounds and five assists to lead the Cleveland Cavaliers to a 91-84 win over the New York Knicks on Wednesday.

  • [New York Times] Vucevic Scores 21 to Help Magic Hold Off Rockets 104-101 (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:03:43 GMT)

    Evan Fournier hit a short bank shot with 14.2 seconds left and Tobias Harris made two free throws with 1.1 seconds remaining to help the Orlando Magic hold off the Houston Rockets 104-101 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Olynyk Scores 20 as Celtics Hold Off Hornets, Win (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:00:58 GMT)

    Kelly Olynyk scored 20 points, Jae Crowder added 19 points and 12 rebounds and the Boston Celtics held off a fourth-quarter rally for a 102-89 victory over the Charlotte Hornets on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Wall Helps Wizards Beat Grizzlies 100-91 (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 02:36:36 GMT)

    John Wall had 14 points and 14 assists to help the Washington Wizards beat the Memphis Grizzlies 100-91 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Nowitzki Passes Shaq, Now 6th on NBA’s Career Scoring List (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 01:24:51 GMT)

    Dirk Nowitzki has moved ahead of Shaquille O’Neal into sixth place on the NBA’s career scoring list.

  • [New York Post] Carmelo Anthony reveals his reasoning for deciding to sit (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 01:40:15 -0500)

    CLEVELAND — Carmelo Anthony decided it was best to rest before Christmas. Anthony, despite participating in the morning shootaround, elected to miss Wednesday's 91-84 loss to the Cavaliers because he said he doesn't want his sprained left ankle injury to "linger.'' Anthony also said he felt without his normal lateral agility he wouldn't be at…

  • [New York Daily News] LeBron James and Cavs outduel Kristaps Porzingis and Knicks (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 06:49:20 GMT)

    The Knicks had flashbacks to last season Wednesday night. Facing LeBron James and the Cavaliers, the Knicks were without Carmelo Anthony.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Carmelo Anthony upset no Christmas game (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 06:24:30 GMT)

    For the first time since the 2008-09 season, the Knicks won’t be playing on Christmas Day and Carmelo Anthony is none too happy.

  • [New York Daily News] Cops eying ‘persons of interest’ in Derrick Williams theft (Thu, 24 Dec 2015 02:39:33 GMT)

    Cops hope to chat with two women who partied with Derrick Williams right before more than $600G in jewelry disappeared from his apartment.

  • 24 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2015.12.24)”

    Anytime you are feeling sorry for yourself watching a Knicks game, remember that the following comment appeared in the game thread in last night’s Sixers-Bucks game:
    “As did the team, second half got within 16 a couple times and could have made a run…”
    I kid you not, the guy was seriously pointing that out as a POSITIVE. Think about that — he viewed it as a positive sign that they got within 16 points in the second half. Maybe they’ll all be getting the last laugh in two years but it must be absolutely awful to be a Sixers fan these days.

    I agree. I’m still wondering which will be larger for the season, Sixer wins or Warriors losses. At the moment it’s one to one, the sixers having won one against the lakers and the Warriors having lost one to the Bucks. One is a really tiny number for both teams. What’s worse for a Sixer fan is that they don’t seem to be improving. They could be better than this and still get a good draft choice.

    Never thought that on 12/24 I’d look at the NBA standings and see the 8th seed in the West with a 12-15 record (Jazz) and the 8th seed in the East with a 17-13 record (Pistons).

    The times they are indeed a changing, and it sure does look like you’ll need to be .500 or better to make the playoffs in the East this year, not a good development for the Knicks.

    I suspect there’s a connection between the observations made in comments 2 & 3.

    I don’t think it’s so much a question of “East getting better/West getting worse” as it is one of the Sixers/Warriors being historically bad/good this year. This has undoubtedly skewed the won/loss totals of all the other teams in their respective conferences.

    “I don’t think it’s so much a question of “East getting better/West getting worse” as it is one of the Sixers/Warriors being historically bad/good this year. This has undoubtedly skewed the won/loss totals of all the other teams in their respective conferences.”
    Despite the historic greatness of the Warriors (10-1 v the East) and historic awfulness of the Sixers (1-10) v the West), teams from the Eastern Conference have a combined record above .500 against teams from the West this year.

    Yeah, but west teams play the Warriors and Spurs twice as often and the east plays the Sixers twice as often. Boston, at 16-13 for example, has played Philly twice, and Utah has played GS and SA a combined 3 times so far. So their records are skewed.

    The Eastern Conference has a lot of talent, though. There are a lot of teams with really good and underrated players this year compared to the Washington Wizards who have one all star and a bunch of overrated guys. I think that’s what’s making the East so good; the rosters are balanced across the conference. I’d still take Houston’s or the Clippers’ rosters over most of the conference, but the East is definitely better this season. It’s not just the Sixers’ inflation I don’t think.

    @6 I think you missed my point. If you exclude the Warriors and the Sixers, teams from the East are 30 games over .500 when they play teams from the West (not when they play other teams from the West). Put another way, while the top two teams in the league are from the West, a good argument can be made that seven a of the top 10 teams are from the East and, while the worst team is clearly from the East, seven of the bottom 10 are from the West. No one predicted that.

    I think teams like LAC, HOU, MEM, and NOH are underperforming for various reasons, and that by March things will look a little different.

    The parity in the east is exciting, but I wouldnt confuse it for improvement. 3 of the top 4 teams are clearly in the west. And the west owns a lot of the young and developing superstars on the league: Davis, Leonard, Townes, Cousins, Green, Lillard, etc, as well as the superstars in their primes: Curry, Harden, Durant, Westbrook, and Griffin. The east has fewer such players and is dominated by aging stars like LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Anthony, and 2nd tier stars like Lowry, Harford, and Wall. The east is diverse, and getting better, but I wouldn’t look at the first 2 months of this season and see a power shift.

    Ok, I realize that it’s early, but how about this stat — only one of the top 12 teams in the East has a losing record against the West. Maybe one of the reasons that there are a few Western Conference teams with really good records is that they are feasting on the drek in the bottom 2/3 of that conference? This could all turn around in the next month but, right now, the East is much better. (By the way, if you are including KAT as one of the stars in the West, maybe you should include a certain tall Latvian in the East?)

    I see Donnie’s point and agree somewhat. While the imbalance seems fluky right now, I do see a sea change taking place in the next 3 years. I think the East has some teams that are a move or two and a year or two from being really good. Orlando has a very good young nucleus, cap room and draft picks. People laugh at Philly but if Okafor develops and Embiid and Saric are here and healthy, and if they pick a couple of plus players in the draft or make a shrewd trade (don’t forget that Colangelo is a smart guy) all of a sudden they are no longer a doormat. Milwaukee also has a very good young team. I don’t know what to make of the Celts, but they are not shitty and are in a pretty good position to acquire some studs via draft/trade/FA. The Knicks are at least treading water, not squandering draft picks, and have Porzingis in the fold. Charlotte and Washington both have several good young players. Meanwile, the Mavs, Griz and even the Spurs will need a makeover in the next couple of years, and who knows what will happen with the Rockets, Clips and Thunder.

    In three years, I expect there to be parity between the conferences.

    (By the way, if you are including KAT as one of the stars in the West, maybe you should include a certain tall Latvian in the East?)

    I did include him when I said “the east has fewer such players” 🙂

    The east definitely has some interesting teams in it going forward, and of course trades, free agency, and fast-developing kids can change everything quickly. But the Warriors could be this good for the next 5 years, and Leonard is gonna make the Spurs rebuild pretty painless, and Griffin and Jordan are gonna stay in their primes once Paul ages out, and Davis will eventually have a solid supporting cast, and Townes (no disrespect to KP) looks like he’s got franchise player written on him, and Harden is gonna be a top player for a long time, and so on.

    Meanwhile, the east has teams that are winning by committee (i.e. ATL, CHA, BOS…), which is exciting and makes for pleasant basketball, but I see the NBA trophy living in the west for a long time.

    Anyone downplaying how much better the east as a whole than the west is being foolhardy.

    The Spurs and Warriors are the only teams that are legitimately worth a damn. Okc is close. Right now the top 8 in the east is better than the last 6 playoff teams in the west by a good margin.

    Well, Philadelphia traded 2 second rounders for Ish Smith and released Tony Wroten, There were some on here considering trading for Wroten, should the Knicks sign him or see if he does anything in free agency and the d-league?

    I will be charitable since this is Christmas and just say that I wish Mr Wroten the best of luck.

    By all metrics (except pointz dawg), Tony Wroten is a terrible basketball player. I’d still sign him for nothing and give him Sasha’s minutes, though.

    Wroten + triangle = instant failure.

    Merry Kristaps to everyone! (Here in Italy it’s already December 25th)

    Who wins the chip is a separate question from which is the better conference.

    I’m with er in this regard.

    @19: The Warriors are an all-time great team. The Cavs aren’t on the same level.

    And I’m not sure how much a healthy Kevin Love really helps. He would’ve been targeted in the pick and roll every time down the floor.

    We’ll see tomorrow how the Cavs and Warriors match up. I think the Warriors are better even if both have all players available

    I’ll be interested in DW’s rationalizations if this happens.

    Hey, Z-Man, isn’t this the day you traditionally eat bleach?

    Kidding. Kidding. Kidding.

    I believe the better team wins a 7 game series, so if the Cavs beat them, I won’t have a rationalization. But you have given the qualifiers here, not me. “Staying healthy” is kind of a big part of the game, and you’re building in the pre-rationalizations already 🙂

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