Knicks Morning News (2015.01.25)

  • [New York Daily News] Carmelo sits again as Knicks’ 10-day crew falls to Hornets (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:09:59 GMT)

    Not even Phil Jackson’s 10-day crew can win them all, particularly without Carmelo Anthony.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Knee remains sore spot for Anthony (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 05:14:37 GMT)

    There would be no crack at a repeat performance for Carmelo Anthony on the one-year anniversary of his franchise record 62-point game.

  • [New York Times] Aldridge Returns and Blazers Beat Wizards 103-96 (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 05:54:06 GMT)

    LaMarcus Aldridge returned to the Trail Blazers two days after saying he was going to have thumb surgery and had 26 points and nine rebounds in a Portland’s 103-96 victory over the Washington Wizards on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Hayward Has 24 as Jazz Roll Over Reeling Nets 108-73 (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 05:38:57 GMT)

    Trey Burke started on the bench again but was hard to miss once he got in the game.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Bucks Get 3-Pointers to Fall as They Outpace the Pistons (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 05:34:34 GMT)

    Gordon Hayward scored 24 points, Trey Burke added 19, and the Utah Jazz rolled to a 108-73 win over the reeling Nets.

  • [New York Times] O.J. Mayo Scores 20, Hot-Shooting Bucks Beat Pistons 101-86 (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 04:21:07 GMT)

    The Bucks made their coach proud with the way they moved the ball against the Detroit Pistons.

  • [New York Times] Hornets 76, Knicks 71: Carmelo Anthony Is Out, and the Knicks’ Winning Streak Is Over (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 04:12:22 GMT)

    A year after his 62-point performance against Charlotte, Anthony was unable to contribute while resting his sore knee as the Knicks fell to the Hornets.

  • [New York Times] Hornets Beat Melo-Less Knicks 76-71 for 9th Win in 11 Games (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 03:56:50 GMT)

    Brian Roberts believes the Charlotte Hornets are in good hands if Kemba Walker is out for any length of time.

  • [New York Times] Randolph’s Double-Double Leads Grizzlies Past Sixers 101-83 (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 03:50:58 GMT)

    Zach Randolph had 17 points and 14 rebounds and Jeff Green scored 18 as the Memphis Grizzlies coasted to a 101-83 win over the Philadelphia 76ers on Saturday night.

  • [New York Post] How Okafor’s personality helps him handle huge expectations (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 01:45:18 -0500)

    Jahil Okafor a 19-year-old millionaire to be. Fame and fortune are waiting. He is being called the next Tim Duncan, forecast by many as the next great NBA big man….

  • [New York Post] Forecasting Knicks’ draft hopes: Is Okafor really No. 1 pick? (Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:54:44 -0500)

    The NBA Draft is still five months away. The NCAA Tournament remains a long way off. The conference season isn't halfway over. But, already, fans of the leagues dregs —…

  • 37 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2015.01.25)”

    Kudos for Klay on his 37-pt quarter. It makes me think back to how mind-boggling Wilt’s 100-pt game was. Consider: if Klay had scored 20 pts in all 3 other quarters, he still would have fallen short.

    It’s really hard to define Wilt in modern terms, but some things truly defy description, especially his 1961-62 season. Consider that he averaged 48.5 MPG, was taking most of his team’s shots and getting most of his team’s rebounds while getting double and triple teamed and still shooting over 50%, enduring hard foul after hard foul to send him to the FT line (he shot 61% that year on a mind boggling 1363 attempts), not mention playing in circa 1961 sneakers (Converse Chuck Taylors?) and traveling to and from games w/o the creature comforts that today’s players enjoy, or today’s medical/training advances. And the game was much more run and gun than it is now, meaning that he made more trips up and down the court. You can be sure that teams tried to exhaust him by ratcheting up the tempo and making him work as hard as possible at both ends.

    Of all of Wilt’s records, the 48.5 mpg that year is the one that speaks loudest about his greatness as an athlete. Imagine how terrifying that was for opposing centers, knowing that no matter what you did, Wilt was never coming out of the game.

    Wilt’s stats read like they are from NBA Live. He averaged 27 rebounds in a season and 50pts ppg if I remember correctly. Plus sleeping with (in his estimate) over 10,000 women.

    I saw the jazz signed Paul millsap’s younger brother Elijah to a three year deal with the next two years being team options. The Knicks should do this with all young players they bring up this season. Just in case they hit gold on one.

    I know some commenters on this site compare Okafor to Al Jefferson (some who say Al Jeff is the floor etc) but Al Jefferson is not half the passer Okafor is right now. Okafor passes out of double teams to create opportunities rather than restarting the offense. If Okafor can draw double teams at the next level (I believe he will) then he will become one of the better passing big men in the game.

    I am REALLY glad we have Bargs on the roster still but sometimes I think picking up a D-league project like Hassan Whiteside might have been a good idea….

    I don’t think Al Jefferson is Okafor’s floor, I think a much better version of Al Jefferson is his floor. His ceiling is, well, really really high.

    Re: Whiteside he flies in the face of everything discussed here bc he was bad and became good. I hate to be cynical but PEDs enter anyone’s mind here?

    I agree with you, Brian. Al Jefferson is not an accurate comparison for Okafor. I would be more inclined to compare him to LaMarcus Aldridge without the plus mid range shot though I think JO will get there.

    Hassan Whiteside is basically the antithesis of Okafor. No low post game but crazy length and athleticism and that can be extremely valuable. If Okafor had Whiteside’s athleticism, he is being compared to Anthony Davis and LBJ as the next generational star to be picked #1.

    i was never really a big fan of okafor… he’s a minus on defense as it stands…. he’s not as dominant physically like shaq or dwight howard were in their heyday… and those two are really the only ones who’s made their career exclusively in the paint…

    D-league product Hassan Whiteside just had 12 blocks as part of his triple double and we’re playing lou amundson

    Thoughts on DeMarre Carroll as a consolation prize if we fail on some combination of draymond matthews joseph etc.? He could be a cost-efficient pickup but I don’t know what he’s gonna be valued at this offseason–he’s really blossomed.

    Love Carroll but he’ll never be the bargain he is now, just 2.5 million. Getting that kind of production for that kind of price is how you build a great basketball team.

    Orlando just bumped Tobias Harris out of the starting lineup in favor of Aaron Gordon. Suggests they don’t anticipate keeping him. Be interesting to see if they move him before the deadline. His bird rights could still have value to a capped out team or a desperate team.

    @ 18 – I think the Celtics are after Harris. I think they move one of their surplus 1st round picks or two and filler for him. I thought I read that Ainge really wants him and was poised to make him a large offer in the off-season.

    Brandon Knight is a free agent next year, right? He’s getting better and better…

    Brandon Knight is a free agent next year, right? He’s getting better and better…

    And thus less and less gettable, since he’s an RFA.

    harris is intriguing… if he is benched then that should depress his value…. i kinda like him next to melo as alternating combo forwards…

    Kill me now if Jackson offers Knight $12M a year for 1300 minutes of decent play. I would say he’s the definition of a chucker, but we already have Tim Hardaway, Jr. in that spot.

    Kill me now if Jackson offers Knight $12M a year for 1300 minutes of decent play. I would say he’s the definition of a chucker, but we already have Tim Hardaway, Jr. in that spot.

    Not that I love Brandon Knight, but Kemba Walker got $12m/yr for being firmly mediocre. You better believe that somebody is going to pony up at least $12m AAV for Knight this summer, though I doubt it’ll be the Knicks.

    @24 But just because other teams do it, does that mean the Knicks need to pay exceptional dollars for mediocre players? That’s what Phil’s coveted cap space can buy us? Mediocrity?

    knight’s ast/to is barely passable for a starting nba pg as it stands and it’s really a toss up if he ever improves upon it… you can look at chauncy billups career arc for some hope but i think he veers more towards the ben gordan career path…

    @24 But just because other teams do it, does that mean the Knicks need to pay exceptional dollars for mediocre players? That’s what Phil’s coveted cap space can buy us? Mediocrity?

    Because that’s what I said. My point was that if Kemba Walker is getting $12m/yr it’s likely Knight is going to get at least that much from somebody, but probably not the Knicks.

    Also $12m isn’t exceptional when every team, player and agent is operating under the assumption the cap will be rising to $80-90m in 2016. That’s very obviously changing how willing teams are to spend.

    If the choice was between Dragic at 14mln and Knight at 12mln, I’d go with Knight. That said, if we are really bent on using the Triangle we have no use for a PG that costs that much, unless he is a lights out shooter and defender (which Knight is not, as good as he’s been this year). If anything, I’d try to pry away Jerryd Bayless, who costs a paltry 3mln/yr, but I don’t think we have anything of interest for the Bucks.

    Fair point that a forward and a shooting guard likely are more valuable to the Knicks than a point if they’re going to continue to play the Triangle.

    I think we should invest on affordable young guys.
    It will be interesting to have a Zach Lavine and Jimmer Fridette back court.

    Id rather have them than overspend our cap space to some overrated players

    Re: Dragic and Brandon Knight – who’s to say we don’t already have our 2015-16 starting PG on our team already? Langston Galloway? Who will be waaaaay cheaper?

    That’s almost exactly what I meant. If we plan on using the Triangle, Galloway is more than capable to man the PG role.

    With Matthews ability to post up, I think he has to be the Knicks #2 target after Gasol (who they are unlikely to get). Wes would be a nice consolation prize.

    I would hardly be ready to anoint Galloway as a starting PG, or even an NBA rotation player on a contender. Let’s not forget that we haven’t exactly been playing the top-echelon teams in the league during Galloway’s stay. You would think we learned something from D-league/2nd round pick flashes in the pan…Lin, Fields, Novak, Copeland, and now Aldrich, to name a get overly excited about Galloway, who’s really an undersized 2.

    Even Hassan Whiteside is being anointed too soon, let’s give it more than 10 games.

    Yeah I think Marc needs to be plan A for sure. After that, a 2 guard that can play both ways like Matthews. And then, who knows? Maybe we pick up a very useful big in the 2nd round too, like Trey Lyles if he drops to us.

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