Congratulations to Team USA and Carmelo Anthony!

It’s not every day (or year) that a New York Knick wins an Olympic Gold Medal. In fact, this is only the fifth time since the Olympics began allowing professional players to compete (something that the United States actually voted against allowing to happen, by the way) that a New York Knick player has won a Gold Medal (Patrick Ewing in 1992, Allan Houston in 2000, Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler in 2012 and now Melo for a second time). So I figured we should take a moment to give our regards to Melo and the rest of Team USA for their dominant Gold Medal victory over Serbia (Kevin Durant had himself a hell of a game).

Becoming the first basketball player to ever win three Olympic Gold Medals is quite the feather for Melo’s cap. Congrats to him on a wonderful Olympic career.

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38 thoughts to “Congratulations to Team USA and Carmelo Anthony!”

  1. Nice tribute Brian! Don’t forget Melo in 2008!

    It was touching to see Melo all broken up like that. We can debate whether he’s overrated as a player, but he has shown tremendous growth as a person and a leader, and it was gratifying to see him getting accolades for his leadership from his high-profile coaches and teammates. Even though his play was a mixed bag, he looked healthy and ready for the grind of the upcoming NBA season. I’m proud to have him on my team. I am very much looking forward to seeing how this team gels around him.

    I also think it’s possible that Melo’s evolution into a leader on the international basketball stage and as spokesperson for social issues might be linked to the Zenmaster’s influence on him.

    In any case, now for that long, boring month of very little Knicks news before training camp starts. At least no one got hurt during the Olympics!

  2. I also think it’s possible that Melo’s evolution into a leader on the international basketball stage and as spokesperson for social issues might be linked to the Zenmaster’s influence on him.

    Evidence or typical Z-man conjecture?

  3. Nice tribute Brian! Don’t forget Melo in 2008!

    Melo was still a Nugget then. Brian was referring to the number of times a then-current Knicks player won a gold medal.

    This offseason has done a lot to change how I view Melo as a person. As a player, he’s still frustrating at times, but I’m just fine having the man on the team I masochistically root for.

  4. Many of the talking-heads poo-poo’ed the accomplishment of winning the gold medal in basketball but the gap is not what they think it is. This was an achievement. The announcers in the bronze medal game indicated that there were 17 players that were current or former players. Granted that some are not starters but the gap is closing. And the USA team did not have LeBron, Curry, Wade, A.Davis, Harden, CP3, Westbrook, Blake Griffen, Kawhi Leonard, John Wall, Dwight Howard, etc. play.

    This was no small accomplishment, so congratulations go out to Melo and friends.

  5. @3 It has been well-documented that Jackson considers Melo to be capable of leadership (alpha-dog level) and has all of his players reading inspirational books. So total conjecture? Nah.

  6. When someone says “I also think its possible” that means they are theorizing or conjecturing if you will. So to then point that out as “conjecture” is redundant and kind of an assholish thing to say.

  7. Also – don’t forget congratulations are in order to Ill Will Chandler for catching a Grouper larger than Shaquille O’Neal.

  8. When someone says “I also think its possible” that means they are theorizing or conjecturing if you will. So to then point that out as “conjecture” is redundant and kind of an assholish thing to say.

    Then I think it’s possible that Z-man has no idea what he’s talking about.

  9. The thing is Jowles. I don’t even disagree with you a lot of the times but the way you present yourself as this asshole who thinks he’s smarter than everyone makes you and this blog (since you are the top poster here) shitty. It used to be a fun place where people had debates and disagreed and there was humor. Now its Jowls bashing everyone who has hope or wants the knicks to be good because they aren’t smart and are a homer. Honestly, you should stop being a Knicks fan and root for another team. People are tired of your shit.

  10. I personally enjoy when Jowles has an earnest meltdown over who-cares-what. Dude is wound so tight. Do some push-ups Jowles

  11. Embarrassing admission: when I saw “Barnes” on the back of a Team USA jersey, my initial thought was “How did Matt Barnes get onto Team USA?” The idea that Harrison Barnes was a member literally did not cross my mind.

  12. People like Jowles are far more valuable to this blog than Reub and the Rosy Onlookers posse; Jowles provides intelligent analysis instead of groupie blabbering.

    I’d rather hear about Rose’s grim prospects than the utterly silly speculation about Melo the NBA Ambassador and Social Analyst or how Jackson makes wise men of his players.

    Call me bad.

  13. I’d rather hear about Rose’s grim prospects than the utterly silly speculation about Melo the NBA Ambassador and Social Analyst or how Jackson makes wise men of his players.

    You must be an absolute joy at parties

  14. It’s too bad Team USA doesn’t seem to consider the aesthetics of the team’s play. I know the first and second choice guys didn’t want to get Zika but it’s hard to watch when nobody in the backcourt is inclined to set up their teammates.

    He’s a piece of shit and all, but wouldn’t Rondo be far more entertaining on the Olympic team than Kyrie? Gaming the box score, flirting with triple-doubles and international incidents?

  15. @22

    Rondo would have been better on the Knicks, too.

    A Jowles-inspired prediction: one of the NBA’s two super-teams will win less than half the games the other super-team wins. Like 35 vs 75?

  16. I am just being a contrarian about Carmelo and Team USA. Carmelo has been a solid and dependable member of Team USA for a long time. He is a talented scorer, if not elite, and I’m glad he’s the face of USA Basketball.

    We can argue all we want about how valuable he is to an NBA team, but it’s clear that he is much better than the average non-NBA player and he’s also apparently a decent human being.

    I don’t take for granted that our “stars” could be guys like Lance Stephenson or Gilbert Arenas. Or even worse, like Javaris Crittendon or Jayson Williams.

    (And I don’t really care if Z-man thinks that Phil Jackson has rubbed his mystique and aura all over past-his-prime Melo. It’s inconsequential. Just don’t give him another NTC Mega-Max for it, that’s all I ask.)

  17. @25

    You’d think that at least his editor would know the difference between “amount” and “number.”

    Also, the guy is using Calderon and Nowitzki’s terrible 3PT rookie shooting as an example?

    43 3PA and 68 3PA respectively. This article is… uh… not good.

  18. No need to read the article since I now know pretty much what it says. Since Jowles thinks the article is “not good,” there is a 100% chance that it says something positive about a Knicks player.

  19. I used CTRL+F to search WP or Wins Produced in that article and nothing came up. I’m guessing that’s the method that Jowles used.

  20. That article was a nice review of Kristaps strengths and weaknesses last season but it didn’t actually project anything

  21. No, they’re right. It doesn’t project anything. It did make me feel good, though, and I do feel compelled to defend the article.

    1) He used Dirk and Calderon, two guys who shot poorly their rookie years (albeit in limited samples) as references because they are both European players who went on to be generation leaders in shooting. KP actually shot it better than those two guys which is encouraging.

    2) It definitely doesn’t project anything, but it maps out his game and says “he’s already good at things, but he needs to get better at these things if he wants to be GOATzingis and not just Porzingis.

    3) I thought somebody would have read the piece and made a comment about how Derrick Rose and Jennings’ ability to drive and kick will open opportunities that Calderon and Afflalo didn’t offer KP. I also expected that comment to lead to a 75 comment argument about the merits of synergy vs production where ruru and Jowles call each other names.

    4) It had .gifs, bro. .gifs!

    But yeah, it’s definitely a more suggestive piece with good outlining (I think they measured KP as the 17th best rim protector in the league last year) of his skills and what he needs to do to be better. I enjoyed reading it, but mostly because .gifs and it was positive.

  22. 1) He used Dirk and Calderon, two guys who shot poorly their rookie years (albeit in limited samples) as references because they are both European players who went on to be generation leaders in shooting. KP actually shot it better than those two guys which is encouraging.

    Oh, is this what it said? It’s actually encouraging that Calderon made 7 of 43 3PA (.163) his rookie season? No. This is useless information. I would even call it misleading, since he said nothing of Calderon virtually never shooting the ball his rookie year.

    Are we going to say that because Calderon shot 84% from the free-throw line his rookie year, basically the same as Porzingis, it’s possible that Porzingis becomes a 98% FT shooter at some point in his career?

    Just say, “I liked the article because it was positive about the Knicks.” That’s better than pretending that it’s well-written analysis. It’s not.

  23. Is there really any well written analysis anymore in your eyes Jowles? You can share it with us if you’d like. Why not go lock yourself in a data center a comb statistics all day? You’re like a fucking zealot for only stats and no discussion of possibility of any trends outside of what stats show. There is no point of having any discussions if everything can be broken down to what advanced stats can tell us. You’re an intelligent and smart person. I don’t understand why you waste your time if you are so sure you’re right.

  24. Y’all can’t think that’s good analysis just because Jowles is a dick, can you? In his second season Jose was a 25 year old point guard coming off a season in which he attempted less than 1 3 a game despite being a fantastic 3 point shooter in Europe. Kristaps is a 21 year old big man who takes a decent amount of 3’s and wasn’t that great of a 3 point shooter in Europe. The only similarities is that they played professionally in Europe before coming to the NBA. So wouldn’t it be better to look at all players who came over from Europe and wound up shooting 3’s in the NBA and see how they did? Or look at young NBA players who were somewhat similar to Kristaps and see how they improved?

  25. Bro, the guy spent maybe 2 sentences total talking about Dirk and Calderon lol. It was more of a “hey, KP wasn’t that great at shooting 3s but Dirk and Jose weren’t good either early on so its not like guys can’t improve” than “let’s compare Jose and Dirk’s career arcs to KPs to project some numbers for him.”

    The piece isn’t really an analysis. DRed is right. I just thought it was an entertaining read worth passing along to some guys who like to read stuff about the Knicks. I also feel like myself, Jowles, and DRed are the only guys who read the article haha. Go figure.

  26. Nah massive, I read it too and enjoyed it.

    Bottom line: KP is on his way to a sure-fire HOF career. Does anyone still question that? Have you even watched the games?!

    Damn the piss…down the hatch, boys!

  27. I read the article. It was a terrific analysis that showed areas where KP can improve – a clear path to him increasing his value with hard work. He’s an amazing asset because he was really good last year but there are so many ways he is expected to improve just based on normal NBA player growth.

    The key point about Calderon and Afflalo was that they did not penetrate the defense. I didn’t need stats to tell me that. The drive and kick ability of Rose and Jennings should increase his perimeter shooting efficiency. And improved perimeter shooting will help space the floor.

    Bottom line: When does camp open?

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