Knicks Morning News (2016.04.20)

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Wednesday's Knicks Links: Phil Jackson's triangle seminar (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 05:06:03 EST)

    Wednesday's Knicks Links: Phil Jackson's triangle seminar

  • [New York Times] Stephen Curry’s Ankle Finally Gives Warriors Cause to Worry (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 01:07:32 GMT)

    Golden State’s 2-0 lead over Houston belies the fragility of its championship chances when the health of Stephen Curry, the reigning M.V.P., is in question.

  • [New York Times] Roundup: A 7-Point First Quarter Dooms the Celtics (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 03:26:13 GMT)

    The Celtics’ troubles were not unexpected as they had to play without Avery Bradley, their leading scorer. Atlanta now leads the first-round series, 2-0.

  • [New York Times] Nera White, Hall of Fame Basketball Star of 1950s and ’60s, Is Dead at 80 (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 02:01:21 GMT)

    White, who was 6 feet 1 inch and could dunk, was an A.A.U. all-American for 15 straight years and one of the first two women to enter the Naismith Hall of Fame.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Cruise to 94-68 Victory Over Grizzlies (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 05:42:50 GMT)

    The more things change the more the San Antonio Spurs remain constant.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Cruise to Game 2 Win Over Grizzles (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 04:45:29 GMT)

    Patty Mills scored 16 points off the bench as the San Antonio Spurs made things look easy from the opening tip and shellacked the Memphis Grizzlies 94-68 Tuesday in Game 2 of the two teams’ Western Conference quarterfinal playoff series.

  • [New York Times] NBA Playoff Capsules (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 04:27:49 GMT)

    The Hawks held Boston to the lowest-scoring first quarter in the playoffs since the NBA went to the shot clock, building a 21-point lead and holding on despite an ugly shooting performance of their own for an 89-72 victory Tuesday night, giving Atlanta a 2-0 lead in the opening-round series.

  • [New York Times] Hawks Stifle Boston in 1st Quarter, Lead 2-0 After 89-72 Win (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 02:48:47 GMT)

    Talk about a short memory. Kyle Korver came out shooting, and this time he couldn’t miss.

  • [New York Times] Korver Breaks Out of Slump to Lead Hawks to Victory (Wed, 20 Apr 2016 02:18:27 GMT)

    Kyle Korver busted out of a shooting slump and buried the banged-up Boston Celtics with a barrage of first-half 3-pointers in an 89-72 Atlanta Hawks win in Game 2 Tuesday at Philips Arena.

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    1. I wonder how Professor Phil’s triangle workshop went yesterday. I also wonder what his reaction would be if one of the players asked: “Why do you think no other NBA team uses this system?”

      Oh, well, off to 9-11 to get some coffee.

    2. Well, someone sounds super-enthusiastic (NOT!!!!):

      “If that’s the way it is, I’m going to keep studying the triangle, keep thinking of how I can help others in the triangle,” Porzingis said. “If that’s the system, we got to be able to play in it and play better than we did. Everybody just needs to believe in it first. That’s the thing we have to focus on.”

      Left unsaid: “I cannot believe I am stuck with this system. I’d be better off in Philly.”
      “Everybody just needs to believe in it first, including me, Melo, and everyone else in this freaking league”.

    3. I’m about 60% leaning towards Blatt getting the nod, then 20% Rambis, 10% each of Walton and Shaw.

    4. Phil putting our kids in Triangle camp is like a parent sending their kids to a summer camp to learn Latin when they should be learning Spanish.

    5. @5 Not a good comparison. There are actually lots of good reasons to study Latin for a couple of years. Do a Google search. I’ve been teaching AP English for over 20 years at 2 very good high schools. Most of the top AP students I’ve had over the years took (and still take) Latin over Spanish or French. These are kids going on to be doctors, lawyers, professors, etc.

      My 15 year old is taking Latin. We let him decide; he wants to be able to read Roman history and literature in the originals some day.

    6. These MFs just spent 82 games and God knows how many practices learning how to play this stupid ass antiquated offense. And then half of them spent the previous 82 games learning to play the fucking thing. If it takes that long to learn how to play it competently, maybe it sucks.

    7. You have to consider that throughout nearly that entire time they had the vile heretic Derek Fisher blaspheming to them about the evil yet seductive power of the “pick and roll” and the “modern NBA offense”. Now that he has been exorcised the gospel of the triangle will surely start to sink in.

      In all seriousness though if you sell someone on the idea that if they do A then B will surely follow (in this case A=play the triangle and B=win basketball games), and they do A, but B doesn’t follow, then pretty much your only recourse is to admit you were wrong (not gunna happen) or to revert to saying that they weren’t doing A properly.

    8. lol – Luke Walton to interview with Vlade and the Kings. Sounds like a practice interview to me.

      re: the Triangle — the problem with the team generally hasn’t been the offense, which probably didn’t under- or overachieve based on the talent. It’s that the more time you waste spend learning this god-forsaken system, the less time you can practice things like DEFENSE which has been the problem all along!

    9. Only Knicks fans, in particular knickerblogger posters, would find a negative angle to a team getting together for an end of the season film session about the offense. Any other franchise that missed the playoffs would be encouraged by a report that the Team GM and current coach held a film session on the offense immediately after the season and that said session, which was voluntary, was attended by the veterans and youngsters (i.e. The guys most likely to return next year.) these dudes are under no obligation to do anything team related until training camp but yet Phil held the session and dudes showed up. But let’s all complain about it cause LOL Knicks.

    10. @ESPNSteinLine: Sacramento just getting started; Lakers deliberating whether to keep Byron Scott; Knicks’ focus, for now, remains Kurt Rambis & David Blatt

      This is really interesting. Basically could be Phil’s guy vs. Mills’ guy. Hey, that rhymes!

      I would literally jump for joy if we hired David Blatt, if for no other reason than he’s not Kurt Rambis and it shows some flexibility in Phil’s approach and process.

    11. Yeah, there would be so many good things about hiring Blatt.

      1. It would show Jackson is not a stubborn ass
      2. It would irk Melo (although he’ll, of course, say how much he loves the move)
      3. It would be a good coach instead of a terrible coach

    12. No one has mentioned Pearl Washington’s death this morning? He was only 52. He didn’t have much of a pro career, but he was a lot of fun to watch in college.

    13. So let me get that straight. Hiring Blatt would annoy Melo and that’s a good thing bc screw Melo. I understand advocating for an eventual Melo trade but it seems like being happy Melo would be annoyed by a particular hiring of a coach just because screw Melo? I just don’t get the mentality of this blog sometimes.

    14. T’wolves fans on r/nba are hailing the hiring of Scott Layden like Christmas come early. Am I going insane?

    15. @swift

      This blog likes to be really, really negative. I got into it with a few posters about Phil a couple of weeks ago.

    16. Melo’s his own man – I actually think he’ll be happy with Blatt, if for no other reason than Blatt isn’t Rambis and because it might mean they can do something other than the Triangle.

    17. It’s not about “Screw Melo.” Carmelo Anthony is one of my favorite players and arguably the best Knick since Ewing was here. It’s just that keeping Melo is a lose lose situation unless Kevin Durant walks through that door in July. Melo won’t win and the Knicks won’t rebuild. I want Melo to score 40 on LeBron in the EC Finals when we trade him to Miami. Melo needs to be playing meaningful basketball right now, and trading him in the wake of Golden State’s dominance makes teams very likely to over pay for him. That’s why I want Melo pissed and ready to leave; because we all win in that scenario.

    18. Re: Melo being unhappy —

      Boston will probably lose this first round series, and the press is already starting with the “we don’t have enough high-level talent” storyline. The trade that makes the most sense for both sides is Melo for something like Jae Crowder and Terry Rozier + the Nets pick, or may be two later 1st round picks rather than the Nets pick. Or maybe some other guard instead of Rozier. Win win.

    19. I’m sorry but I don’t want bostons spare parts. The nets pick ok, but terry rozier? Crowder is probably the only guy who could be a rotation player on a top tier team. Unless you get a top 5 pick for Melo I firmly believe Melo>spare parts.

      The Knicks have a top 5 Eastern Conference front court of Melo Lopez and Porzingis.

      You need to develop Grant and add some more guard depth and defenders you can start building a good squad. Melo only has 3 yrs left on this contract. In 3 years Porzingis will be 24. He will have been playing and developing under a stable, improving team while being ready to be top dog by then. You can also retain Melo as a great role player in his later years.

      I actually think this trade Melo talk is hella shortsighted. The bargnani trade is a big deal looming over all of this. If we had the pick I think the feeling going forward would be better. Starting next year we will have that pick to add each year.

      This is the correct play here. Build up this team, there is no need to add more of these Celtic type players. Also they need to get a competent coach to do this

    20. We felt that way about the Knicks two seasons ago. And Phil is the second best coach ever IMO.

    21. Yeah except Minneosta has once-in-a-generation talent in KAT, a few young players one of whom may be able to play second fiddle to KAT, and likely the 5th pick in this year’s draft. And now they have one of the best coaches in the league on the sidelines.

      The only way they can fuck this up is if Thibs is a god awful manager like Rivers is; I doubt that.

      They’re light years ahead of where we were two years ago, or where we are now.

    22. After thinking about it a bit, I am 1000% on the Blatt bandwagon. The dude can flat out coach. He won 2 games off GS despite being completely outgunned, which looks more amazing as time goes on. When was the last time we had a coach that could compete with the best in terms of Xs and Os?

      I actually think there is a nonzero chance that Phil cares so much about letting Rambis down gently that everything he has done in the last few weeks is for that purpose. From all reports they are truly close to each other- must be a tough position to be in to tell your very close friend that he’s not good enough.

      Or Phil really is get off my lawn old guy and Rambis will be our coach.

    23. Thibs proving his Presidential stature by hiring noted front office genius Scott Layden as his GM.

    24. Maybe Layden has learned a thing or two from assistant GMing with the Spurs

    25. It’s not about “Screw Melo.” Carmelo Anthony is one of my favorite players and arguably the best Knick since Ewing was here. It’s just that keeping Melo is a lose lose situation unless Kevin Durant walks through that door in July. Melo won’t win and the Knicks won’t rebuild. I want Melo to score 40 on LeBron in the EC Finals when we trade him to Miami. Melo needs to be playing meaningful basketball right now, and trading him in the wake of Golden State’s dominance makes teams very likely to over pay for him. That’s why I want Melo pissed and ready to leave; because we all win in that scenario.

      Yep. Melo’s window <<<<< Porzingis' window. Keeping Melo is a waste, so anything that will make him want to leave is good. But it is fair to say that I guess it doesn't make sense to annoy him, since he is never going to leave, and all you'll have is an annoyed Melo here, since he'll never leave. So with that in mind, fair enough, don't get Blatt to annoy Melo. Get him for the other reasons (especially that he is a much better coach than Rambis).

    26. @32 I agree 100% Frank, but my worry is that Phil is just going to interview Blatt to show that he’s open minded, when in reality he’s totally committed to Rambis. But I hope I’m wrong.

    27. Should we hire a new guy from a good FO and hope he can step up or a guy in the club with a proven record of incompetence? In the NBA, you almost always go with the proven loser and hope it works out better this time

    28. The Knicks went from bad to worse under Scott Layden, but he may have been mandated to make moves and spend money to feign competition by one James L Dolan. I’d give Thibodeau the benefit of the doubt. He was there, too.

    29. Thibs is pretty much the perfect coach for Wiggins. What a good thing for Wiggins’ career. If anyone can make him live up to his potential on the defensive end, it is Thibs.

    30. The Knicks went from bad to worse under Scott Layden, but he may have been mandated to make moves and spend money to feign competition by one James L Dolan. I’d give Thibodeau the benefit of the doubt. He was there, too.

      The #8 pick and Marcus Camby for an injured Antonio McDyess and the Glen Rice for Shandon Anderson/Howard Eisley trades were right up there with Isiah’s worse trades.

    31. The #8 pick and Marcus Camby for an injured Antonio McDyess and the Glen Rice for Shandon Anderson/Howard Eisley trades were right up there with Isiah’s worse trades.

      Yup. And what did those trades all have in common? (Answer: James L Dolan)

    32. Oh yeah, no doubt. I actually tend to believe Layden can be good under a different regime. I was just astonished at how bad those two trades were.

    33. To DRed’s point, the Nets actually seem to be going the former route, which is good for them. Makes me sad for the Knicks. I could see them having more long term success than the Knicks once they get all their picks again long after I’m dead.

    34. The Nets really are shockingly seemingly learning from all of their earlier mistakes. I didn’t think they had it in them.

    35. Layden did draft Stockton and Malone back in the day, both with mid-1st round picks. As far as front office legacy kids go, he’s probably less bad than Bryan Colangelo.

    36. The only thing I can say about the Blatt “courtesy” interview is that I don’t think Steve mills would let Blatt be a token interview. Those two are close.

      That Blatt is being looked at seriously does make you wonder whether Phil will be around for much longer. This would be considered a Mills hire.

      Brian Getzeiler from NBATv was on Joe and Evan today- is very very high on Blatt and says Phil has a lot of respect for him.

    37. I can’t believe that I am actually hoping for a Steve freakin’ Mills power move. The same dude who tried to cover up Isiah’s sexual harassment. And I’m like, “Let’s give you a shot!”

    38. Layden was not only horrible, but seemed determined to stock the Knicks with nothing but (1) 6’8″ power forwards: Clarence Weatherspoon, Othella Harrington, Michael Sweetney, McDyess and (2) guys affiliated with the state of Utah: Eisley, Shandon Anderson, Michael Doleac, Keith Van Horn.

    39. Layden was terrible, no doubt about it, but I do think it is fair to note that he was stuck in that same “we can’t rebuild!” mode that nearly every Knick GM was hamstrung by. If Layden had just rebuilt after he took over, the Knicks would be have been in so, so much better shape. But clearly, Dolan thought that they couldn’t rebuild. Hell, Isiah specifically said that, which has to be one of the dumbest thing any executive has ever said (“Knicks fans won’t tolerate a rebuild” – but they’ll be okay with the team being unintentionally bad for a decade, of course).

    40. After thinking about it a bit, I am 1000% on the Blatt bandwagon. The dude can flat out coach. He won 2 games off GS despite being completely outgunned, which looks more amazing as time goes on. When was the last time we had a coach that could compete with the best in terms of Xs and Os?

      ahem, LeBron won 2 games off GS

    41. Miami just dropped 72 in H1. Last night the Celts scored 72 and Memphis scored 68. Riley should be exec of the year fielding a competitive playoff team despite injuries to Bosh and TJ.

    42. The craziest thing is that in the past fifty years, the Knicks had two actual, normal rebuilds. One of them ended up in their only two titles and one of them ended up with the Ewing-era Knicks. So the fact that they’ve specifically avoided traditional rebuilds ever since is maddening.

    43. Yeah, I’m a Blatt guy myself. Honestly though, his strategy was to play LeBron 40+ minutes a night and watch LeBron turn in the single greatest NBA Finals performance we’ve ever seen. Go back and look at the stats; LeBron James was on a different planet. There were discussions about Golden State getting the chip and LeBron getting Finals MVP because he flat outperformed everyone in that series and it wasn’t even close

    44. We can’t rebuild, I’d better give huge money to Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley!

      Explain that shit. Because you can’t. It’s inexplicable.

    45. We can’t rebuild, I’d better give huge money to Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley!

      Explain that shit. Because you can’t. It’s inexplicable.

      It was just an extension of the Ewing thing – “We can’t let him go for nothing.” Rice was going to leave and they wanted to get something for him. That was the story of the Knicks for a few years, “We just have to keep adding guys.”

    46. I think Rambis would be the coach right now if he was really Phil’s #1 choice. I think he wants Walton, but realizes he’s unlikely to get him. So right now he is weighing going with someone he is less familiar with (Blatt for example) or Rambis while waiting on Walton to tell him he’s either definitely not interested or definitely not leaving GS (if he hasn’t already). I can’t see him taking Shaw or any other guys like that over Rambis. I don’t see any upside there from Phil’s perspective given that Rambis already knows the team and works well with Phil. I think it’s almost certainly either Blatt or Rambis. What we don’t know is whether he has even spoken to Blatt. If he hasn’t, then I’m not sure why he hasn’t named Rambis unless Walton hasn’t ruled it out yet.

    47. Knicks Offense vs. Defense.

      According to Wayne Winston’s model the Knicks defense was clearly above average and it was the offense that was terrible. I trust a model like this way more than any raw offensive and defensive efficiency numbers.

      http://waynewinston.com/wordpress/

    48. Ay let’s not forget Layden trading a 1st round pick and Chris Childs for a 35 year old Mark Jackson and a 36 year old Muggsy Bogues.

      ???

    49. That’s the thing – go back and you’ll see that he got tons of praise for the Jackson move, since he played really well when he returned. Because it was a win-now move and people are dumb.

    50. This team is one or maybe two players from fielding a legit defense assuming Grant can play offense well enough to stay on the floor next season (which is not a sure thing, but I’m reasonably optimistic)

    51. Wade gots 19 pts on 17 shots
      Whiteside gots 17 points on 8 shots

      who the real MVP

    52. Marvin Williams worked so hard all year to get paid and now he’s going all DeRozan @ 1-17 in the playoffs, except unlike DD his paycheck is sill uncertain.

    53. @Brian Cronin: Yeah, the Nets are owned by a smart guy who made all of the money himself. So, not surprising that he learns from his mistakes. We are owned by… well, you know the rest.

    54. I want so bad for the Knicks to trade Lopez with Melo and then give Whiteside $25 million a year. Whiteside is like Amar’e Stoudemire’s bigger little brother. Could you imagine if this kid got a chance to play with his generation’s best PG like DeAndre Jordan now and Amar’e Stoudemire 10 years ago? Whiteside is that lucky opportunity the Knicks need. He would most certainly be playing in Miami next season if the Heat owned his bird rights, but the situation is so unique they won’t be able to keep him. He’s one of the 10 best players in basketball and we’ll be able to sign him to a deal for his age 27-30 seasons. You do not let Robin Lopez get in the way of this opportunity. You trade his ass and grab whatever you can for him.

    55. Winslow is going to really be something if he learns to score-thank Krom we had a pick last year instead of this year.

    56. He’s one of the 10 best players in basketball and we’ll be able to sign him to a deal for his age 27-30 seasons. You do not let Robin Lopez get in the way of this opportunity. You trade his ass and grab whatever you can for him.

      yes but Knicks

    57. Jordan taking Kaminsky over Winslow while refusing Celts godfather offer so they could take Winslow will go down as a gut shot.

    58. Whiteside would be a great signing, but he can stack those Tubmans just about anywhere-why is he going to come to the Knicks?

    59. Detroit is a Calderon away from doing damage next year. They could really use his shooting and veteran leadership to sure up their second unit. ; )

    60. Whiteside would be a great signing, but he can stack those Tubmans just about anywhere-why is he going to come to the Knicks?

      Because his secret ambition in life is to be the pinch post passer in a cool “retro” offense from the 1990’s? He’ll probably grow a fade and carve some patterns in it and everything.

    61. I love every second of this. Jeez louise he came hard at ’em.

      Move #1 in 2016 offseason: Sign Steve Clifford Now Please

      Goddamn, the JVG coaching tree is so freakin’ smart. Why did they have to leak stories to Frank Isola and make certain that none of them will ever be coaches for the Knicks?!

    62. Winslow is going to really be something if he learns to score-thank Krom we had a pick last year instead of this year.

      Right? What a freakin’ draft!!!

    63. the JVG coaching tree is so freakin’ smart. Why did they have to leak stories to Frank Isola and make certain that none of them will ever be coaches for the Knicks?!

      Like you said, they were smart.

    64. Yeah, I’m a Blatt guy myself. Honestly though, his strategy was to play LeBron 40+ minutes a night and watch LeBron turn in the single greatest NBA Finals performance we’ve ever seen. Go back and look at the stats; LeBron James was on a different planet. There were discussions about Golden State getting the chip and LeBron getting Finals MVP because he flat outperformed everyone in that series and it wasn’t even close

      Lebron was great, yes, but overall the cleveland offense stunk in that series. What won them those games was Lebron, yes, but also the defensive strategy that held GS way below their usual averages until Kerr discovered the Death lineup in game 4 — a lineup no one in the league has been able to defend even a full year later.

      Sometimes you just don’t have the talent — but LBJ + a bunch of dudes took one of the all-time great teams to 6 games. The coach has something to do with that.

      Hell, I don’t know whether Blatt is really any good, but I’ll tell you the much — there is literally ZERO chance that Rambis is better than him. And I think we’ve learned for sure that Phil is not going to hire JVG or anyone associated with him. Blatt is probably as good as we can hope for.

    65. Like you said, they were smart.

      Ha! But the sad thing is that pretty much any one of them would love to come back to New York. They obviously all loved being part of the Knicks. But Dolan…

    66. Hell, I don’t know whether Blatt is really any good, but I’ll tell you the much — there is literally ZERO chance that Rambis is better than him. And I think we’ve learned for sure that Phil is not going to hire JVG or anyone associated with him. Blatt is probably as good as we can hope for.

      Yep. I’m all in on Blatt and I’m not even a huge Blatt fan, but he’s by far the best coach of the actual possible coaching possibilities, so gimme Blatt!

    67. Things could always be worse – the Knicks could be leaning towards bringing Byron Scott back like the Lakers. Scott is the one coach out there who I think is legitimately worse than Rambis (I think Brian Shaw is equally shitty to Rambis).

    68. The thing I like most about Blatt is he is, by everything I’ve read, supported by Kyrie Irving. It will be good to reunite Kyrie with Blatt when we trade Melo to Miami and Miami sends Deng and Dragic to Cleveland.

    69. Blatt isn’t an unknown. He’s pretty damn good. No question about it.

      Watch his plays on YouTube.

    70. The other things the guy from NBATV suggested as possibilities for trading Melo (he does not think Melo starts the 2016-17 season on the Knicks):

      Cleveland gets crushed by GS (or earlier): LBJ demands trading Kyrie for CP3, Melo for Kevin Love. I’m not a huge Kevin Love fan, but Love next to KP seems pretty good to me. And I think this is semi-plausible (and would definitely be entertaining).

      Miami loses, sends Justise Winslow and Josh Richardson (+ whatever filler) for Melo. (I for one don’t think there’s any chance Riley would agree to that).

    71. Hard for me to read these Cole articles through the tears. I wish you’d lost those 25lbs last year, but I loved you no matter what size you were.

    72. Also, LeBron fucked up Blatt’s situation in Cleveland in a way that only he could get away with, so I don’t fault Blatt at all with his experience there. See Woj’s stories about how/why LeBron did screw it up.

    73. I’d sign for Blatt in a heartbeat, but I don’t see why he or any other respectable coach would take this job. He’d have a horrible owner, a GM looking over his shoulder, he wouldn’t get to run his own offense, and his assistants all get picked for him, including at least one who is probably a mole for the GM. All of those headaches might be worth it if the roster was great, but it’s not.

      Blatt might be the best available coach now that Thibs is gone. He’ll have options.

    74. Whiteside is a walking highlight reel, but he’s an overrated defender. He’s not that good man to man. He’s also got some maturity and other issues. I know he’s a very good player, but I think signing him would likely be a mistake. He’d probably melt down mentally in NY, especially without the kind of leadership he’s getting in Miami.

    75. If I was Blatt, I’d take the interview and say:

      “Phil, it would be an honor to work with an accomplished guy like you. But my last job in Cleveland taught me a few things about what I need. I was considered an offensive innovator but had to completely change my offensive system because LeBron demanded it. He had a lot of control over that organization, and it really undermined my ability to coach. So at my next job, I need to be able to run my own schemes and pick my own assistants. I need to know that the organization trusts me to do my job. If you can promise me that, I would be happy to include you in some practices and utilize your knowledge. If not, I’m going to keep looking for a better opportunity.”

    76. I would be shocked if Blatt came here.

      Jackson: So you know we run the triangle here, do you think you could coach that?
      Blatt: Well I have been very successful with similar motion offenses in-
      Jackson: It’s ok, I’ll be coming to training camp to go through it with you.
      Blatt: I actually think some of my own ideas might work with this team. I like the idea of using Porzingi-
      Jackson: And I’ll be working with Kristaps in the post, with his footwork.
      Blatt: He actually looks like he has a shooting touch from the-
      Jackson: You know you can also lean on Sasha, he knows the triangle pretty well too.
      Blatt: Sasha?
      Jackson: Anyway, Kurt will also be around to help. You’ll be fine, just answer my emails ok?

    77. I think people are underselling the triangle when it comes to front court players. Guards don’t like the triangle because it takes the ball out of their hands but every big that has played in that system has been great. It would not be difficult selling a big man on an offense that is going to give him the opportunity to score 20 a night and be an active part of the offense. DeAndre Jordan’s dumbass almost left Chris Paul because he wanted to do more than just catch lobs and get rebounds.

    78. Massive I think Bill Cartwright would disagree. He went from 19 pts/36 as a Knick to 12 with the Bulls. Half as many FTA, 12 FGA/36 to 10 and a drop in 2 pt FG% from .553 to .475. Perhaps that was the injuries, but the drop was right from his last season to his first with Chicago.

    79. I remember reading a Zach Lowe article that said Riley would hang up the phone on any Melo trade offer involving Winslow.

      Take it for what you will but Lowe is generally a good source.

      I’m all in on Blatt since he’s a pretty good coach and is actually available with no bad blood between him and Phil/Dolan–I think his hiring more likely than some of us think since he has Mills’ backing and Mills, from all indications, is gonna be head of the FO when Phil leaves. We can still hope and pray for Masai after another terrible season, though.

    80. I don’t know what his career earnings were in Europe, but I suspect Blatt might come here for the same reason as so many before him: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    81. Phil isn’t really a GM, and the Knicks’ coaching job isn’t really a coaching job. Phil is a coach/GM hybrid, and he expects his coach to be a proxy.

      Which is why there are two candidates remaining on Planet Earth for the Knicks coaching job: Kurt Rambis and Brian Shaw. If you gave me a choice to put money down on either Rambis/Shaw or “the field,” I’d go with Rambis/Shaw in a heartbeat. I will be (pleasantly) surprised if it is anybody other than Rambis or Shaw.

    82. Does Phil “know” David Blatt? Because it’s very important that Phil know any candidate for the NY Knicks coaching job. For instance, if Greg Popovich decided he wanted to coach the Knicks, he’d be disqualified because Phil does not know him.

      Ugh….

    83. I think Blatt and Mills would outlast Phil Jackson in New York. Phil is gone after next season, and I think Mills would convince Blatt that he would only have to deal with one year of dealing with Phil. Blatt might even take it as an opportunity to learn from one of the best coaches in NBA history. But the Phil thing is only going to last for one year.

    84. Man, nice things just can’t happen for Minnesota. The Timberwolves hire the best coach on the market and the next day Prince dies. That state is cursed… They can only have so much happiness, I guess.

    85. So sad to hear about Prince passing. Prayers up to his family and friends.

      I think people slept on how great of a guitarist he was. He truly was a musical genius.

    86. NBA coaching market is so weird. How can Scott Brooks possibly be worth $7M a year?

    87. NBA coaching market is so weird. How can Scott Brooks possibly be worth $7M a year?

      Weird supply and demand. Brooks was a relatively in demand coach and Washington was a very much not in demand place to play. Add in their pipe dream of getting Durant to come there and Brooks pretty much got to name his price.

    88. Is there reason to think Brooks at all adds to KD’s desire to go to Washington? Is he a plus or a minus? I would guess he’s a very minor plus but I don’t really have a good reason to think that apart from familiarity for whatever that’s worth.

    89. Oh, I agree that it is unlikely to make a difference. Washington is just desperate. Brooks is making the most of that desperation, financially.

      That said, while I’m not a big Brooks fan, I think he’s worlds better than Randy Wittman, so I think Durant or no Durant, this move helps them long term.

    90. If the 2017-2018 opens with Masai Uijiri as GM, David Blatt as coach and Kristaps Porzingis still on the roster, then the tenure of Phil Jackson will have been a success.

    91. I’m sorry, I don’t get all the Jackson hate. He’s an old guy, sure who is set in his ways, but his ways have been fairly successful. I don’t understand why the triangle or any system can’t win today. I understand why Jackson is married to it…. it has worked pretty well for him :-)

      The argument that he always had the best roster and could have won with any system , but lots of coaches have had great rosters and no one other than Red on Roundball are close to his success. The man won 11 as a coach and 2 as a player.

      Pop isn’t half way to Jackson’s record and has coached some pretty good players (Duncan, The Admiral, Parker, Giniobli, etc). OKC has had Westbrook, Durant , Harden and Ibaka and can’t get a sniff.

      It is hard to win championships and Jackson’s teams seldom failed.

      All you guys are in love with the GS offense…. well it is nice when your backcourt shoots 45% and 43% from 3 and the other 2 fowards shoot 39%

      Let Jerian Grant and Galloway run that offense and hoist them up from all angles, and I don’t think it does quite so well…..

    92. I do not believe the triangle hinders a team’s success. I think the triangle is a good basketball system and that we just had terrible basketball players in our back court. The Knicks had one decent guard all year and that was Jose Calderon’s .571 TS%. Afflalo posted a .531, Sasha had a .503, Grant had a .479, and Galloway had a .490. When you get a combined 8,601 minutes from your guards and only one (Calderon) is good at shooting, your team will lose 50 basketball games. This is a player’s league until it’s not; then it becomes a coach’s league. The one argument I can see with the triangle is that it is not a system that makes player’s better, even though Derrick Williams played some of his best basketball this season depending on what metric you prefer (and I think his WP/48 is so low because he’s registered as a PF when I think they should evaluate him as a SF). I think the problem with the triangle is that it looks to create open jumpers, while “the modern NBA offense” creates open dunks and three point opportunities. I don’t think it’s a bad offense, though. The Knicks were playing great and fun basketball with the triangle for the first half of the season.

    93. I’m sorry, I don’t get all the Jackson hate. He’s an old guy, sure who is set in his ways, but his ways have been fairly successful. I don’t understand why the triangle or any system can’t win today. I understand why Jackson is married to it…. it has worked pretty well for him :-)

      Do you still use AOL’s dial-up service?

    94. Do you still use AOL’s dial-up service?

      I never made it to the interwez…. semaphore is my mode of communication.

      You know the 46 defense was the innovation in football in 1985…. it always worked better when Buddy Ryan ran Dan Hampton, Steve Mc Michael, Otis Wilson, Richard Dent and Mike Singletary on the field.

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