Knicks Morning News (2016.04.04)

  • [New York Times] With 2 Games vs Warriors This Week, How Will Spurs Play It? (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 07:00:41 GMT)

    The biggest mystery surrounding the Golden State Warriors’ run at history is how motivated San Antonio will be to stop it.

  • [New York Times] Boston Celtics Survive Kobe Bryant’s 34, Beat Lakers 107-100 (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 05:18:39 GMT)

    After 20 years, two NBA Finals meetings and countless major moments, Kobe Bryant cherishes the history and tradition of the Los Angeles Lakers’ rivalry with the Boston Celtics.

  • [New York Times] Pelicans 106, Nets 87: Nets Fall to New Orleans as New Pelican Shines (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 04:28:15 GMT)

    The Nets lost their fifth straight game after announcing that Brook Lopez and Thaddeus Young would sit out the rest of the season.

  • [New York Times] Curry Pours in 39 as Warriors Trounce Trail Blazers (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 04:21:27 GMT)

    The Golden State Warriors play so well after they lose, it makes one wonder why they don’t do it more often.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Pacers Blow Lead but Hold Off Knicks to Move Into Seventh in East (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 03:55:06 GMT)

    The Indiana Pacers beat the Knicks, 92-87, at Madison Square Garden on Sunday night to tie for seventh place in the Eastern Conference.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Rebound From Rare Home Loss to Beat Blazers 136-111 (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 03:36:48 GMT)

    The pain of a rare home loss disappeared quickly for Stephen Curry and the Golden State Warriors. Just like the other seven defeats this season, it was followed with yet another win.

  • [New York Times] George Hits Go-Ahead Shot, Pacers Edge Knicks to Tie for 7th (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 02:21:44 GMT)

    Paul George returned from an injured ankle to make the tiebreaking jumper with 23.6 seconds left, and the Indiana Pacers beat the New York Knicks 92-87 on Sunday night to tie for seventh place in the Eastern Conference.

  • [New York Times] Without Irving, Cavs Hold Off Hornets (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 02:18:27 GMT)

    LeBron James said it felt like playing three games in three nights, yet as the Cleveland Cavaliers have for most of the season, they passed the test.

  • [New York Times] Jimmy Butler Scores 25 Points, Bulls Hold Off Bucks 102-98 (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 01:42:52 GMT)

    Jimmy Butler scored 25 points on 10-of-11 shooting, Pau Gasol had 16 points and eight rebounds and the Chicago Bulls held off a second-half surge by the Milwaukee Bucks for a 102-98 win Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Hayward’s 22 Helps Jazz Keep Pace in West With Win Over Suns (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 01:06:54 GMT)

    Gordon Hayward led five Utah players in double figures with 22 points, and the Jazz boosted their playoff chances with a 101-86 win over the Phoenix Suns on Sunday.

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Fall to Magic 119-107 for Sixth Straight Loss (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 01:00:57 GMT)

    Nikola Vucevic scored 25 points off the bench, Victor Oladipo and Evan Fournier added 22 points each and the Orlando Magic topped the struggling Memphis Grizzlies 119-107 on Sunday night.

  • [New York Post] Don’t tell Kristaps Porzingis his season is over (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 00:36:21 -0400)

    Kristaps Porzingis ain't done yet. Porzingis hasn't given up on his rookie season, showing progress with his right-shoulder strain by lifting his arm over his head in a demonstration for reporters in the Knicks' locker room before they played host to the Pacers Sunday night. The rookie phenom wasn't able to do that in Dallas…

  • [New York Post] Rambis’ strange rant: Demoting Afflalo will help his wallet (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 00:28:08 -0400)

    Kurt Rambis went from Arron Afflalo's coach to his agent for one weird, brief moment after Sunday's 92-87 loss to the Pacers. Afflalo scored 13 of his 15 points in the fourth quarter, nearly spearheading an improbable comeback victory. Afflalo had been embroiled in a rift of sorts with Rambis, who demoted him to the…

  • [New York Daily News] Carmelo Anthony among Knicks starters to sit in latest loss (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 05:29:43 GMT)

    The Knicks haven’t shut down their season yet. At least not officially.

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Carmelo Anthony ‘resting’ is trend among NBA stars (Mon, 04 Apr 2016 05:07:10 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony received what was referred to as a “rest” day on Sunday.

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    84 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.04.04)”

    1. I can’t say this enough:
      I love KP’s demeanor and mindset. It’s gonna be a pleasure watching him grow in the league. If he ever develops a mean streak like Ewing had, he truly is going to be really special.

    2. My favorite KP moment is still when he got into Boogie’s face because of physical play and then proceeded to own him in the fourth quarter.

    3. Yeah we should hit the over as long as Melo comes back, which he said he will.

      We already smoked a ton of smart money as the Knicks line got bet down all the way to 28.5, which is where I hit the over. Should have gone big on that, but I’m aware my ability to be rational with the Knicks and then involving money is generally a bad mix.

    4. Hell…we should have won against the Pacers. The team played pretty good without Melo & KP.

    5. The Philly game should be a win even without Melo.

      Anyone who watches all 48 minutes of that game should get some kind of medal of valor.

    6. I wonder if Pop will sit his starters against GSW. I hope so because that would give us a chance to check out Boban but then maybe not because Spurs wouldn’t want to feature him if they think it might drive up his RFA price. I’m almost thinking it would be better to take the risk and just max Boban and hold the rest of the cap (or give out 1 year deals) to make a play for Westbrook. Let’s just swing for the fences.

    7. So do you guys agree with Pippen on the ’96 Bulls in 4 against these Warriors? I’d take the Bulls in 5.

      Jordan > Curry
      Pippen > Thompson
      Rodman would neutralize Green (a matchup I would have loved to watch)
      Bogut against any of the Bulls centers is a wash
      Kukoc vs Barnes a wash
      Warriors bench > Bulls bench
      PJ > Kerr

    8. Speaking of centers, what centers would you rather have on this team other than Lopez taking into account age and contract? Here’s my take:

      Definite…………… Cousins/Towns/Jokic
      Maybe (but no).. Jordan/Drummond/Whiteside/Valanciunas/Brook

    9. I was pretty happy with the RoLo signing and have seen nothing to make me feel otherwise. I don’t see why we’d focus on Boban or any other big unless and until we had a trade in place with RoLo for a top guard. He is top tier on a friendly contract.

      That’s no knock on Boban – he could end up being phenomenal even in significant minutes. But it’s a small sample, and as we saw with ColeTrain (who I also loved, though apparently too much), some bigs can’t handle the increased minutes. Also, RoLo covers for a lot of mistakes, and I don’t know yet if Boban can do that, since the Spurs play actual guards and not D-league players in disguise.

      So yeah, we could build for the future, or recognize that Melo is unlikely to go anywhere, so we should use our space to clean up the terrible, terrible situation we have at the 1 and 2 and settle for becoming a good team. I’d be fine with Gallo and Jerian as backups next year, but they are not starters, nor are they likely to become starter material.

    10. Cousins is worse than like almost all of the centers you listed.

      I would commit unspeakable acts in order to get Boban, Jokic, or Whiteside on this team

      That being said we shouldn’t trade RoLo unless we were sure we could get one of those players–RoLo is awesome, my favorite Knick along with Porzingis

    11. You all better be giving your energy to UNC tonight otherwise I’ll come from Chapel Hill and find you

    12. I would sign Boban and let him play 20mpg, Lopez 28mpg. If he plays well, we’d have the option to trade one of them next summer after we have a better read on Grant and Gallo and the possibility of signing Westbrook. Phil or Dolan might opt-out and we could then let Westbrook pick the coach and play a more modern offense suited to his skills. Boban signing would improve the team but also give us more flexibility to further improve through trades.

    13. So do you guys agree with Pippen on the ’96 Bulls in 4 against these Warriors? I’d take the Bulls in 5.

      Jordan > Curry
      Pippen > Thompson
      Rodman would neutralize Green (a matchup I would have loved to watch)
      Bogut against any of the Bulls centers is a wash
      Kukoc vs Barnes a wash
      Warriors bench > Bulls bench
      PJ > Kerr

      I think a lot depends on what set of defensive rules you’re playing with and how long we’re giving the teams to get ready. If we just pulled the ’96 Bulls out of a time machine today and told them to suit up, I think they get worked over honestly. I think it would take them time to adapt to the super overloaded strong side defenses and honestly based on what we’ve seen of Phil’s acumen in the modern game I’m not completely sure it’s a code they would have cracked at all. Plus adapting to hand checking changes would be a major issue for them defensively.

      That said I do think once they adapted properly they could implement a turbo-charged version of last year’s Cavs Finals gameplan: Slow the tempo way down relying on MJ/Lebron to create something (even something just okay) as the clock expires. Pound them on the offensive glass. Be really long and disruptive defensively so every game becomes a slog that’s close late. Ultimately I think that (plus the fact that they have MJ and GS doesn’t) would probably be enough to get them over the hump.

      I think it would be very close though, and I think a lot of ex-players are absurdly dismissive of GS. They’re about to break a record that was considered unbeatable, and do it in what is obviously a really strong era for NBA talent.

    14. I will root for UNC only because their victory will be especially fun for all the NCAA-haters of which I am definitely a card carrying member….

    15. The nice thing about being Scottie Pippen and prognosticating team superiority across generations?

      He doesn’t have to actually play the fucking series. Because he can’t.

      I have to say that if I were in high school again, I would definitely be the coolest guy there. You can’t prove that I wouldn’t be, guys.

    16. I’d take Golden State in 6, even with the old rules in place.

      Draymond and particularly Bogut would shine in that series being the elite defensive players they are–people forget just how well Bogut moves in space which would really help shut down the Bulls iso-heavy offense.

      This is all speculation and means nothing, though. More interesting question: this year’s GSW or SAS in a 7 game series (aka this year’s western finals/championship game.)

      I take GS in 6.

    17. How blessed are we that we have two of the best teams in all time in the same year? You could make a case that the Spurs could also be in the running for best record ever if Pop weren’t so strategic with resting his older players.

      Along with OKC as a distant third with KD and Russell attempting to hero-ball their way into the finals.

      I really can’t wait for the western conference playoffs.

    18. I think a lot depends on what set of defensive rules you’re playing with and how long we’re giving the teams to get ready. If we just pulled the ’96 Bulls out of a time machine today and told them to suit up, I think they get worked over honestly.

      Yeah, the Bulls would all foul out if they were playing with modern rules. Plus how can Kerr both play for the Bulls and coach Golden State. It just doesn’t make sense

    19. I could see either team winning. They’re actually pretty uniquely well-matched against each other.

    20. The 2nd threepeat by the Bulls was after handchecking banned I believe. Also think the fact they could switch 1-5 when they went small with Kukoc at the 4 and Rodman at 5 would make them very capable of defending GSW better than any team in the league right now. I think the Bulls would win in 6, because when you have guys like Curry and Klay that can light it up from 40 feet out you’re going to win a game or two no matter who you play.

      I think it would take them time to adapt to the super overloaded strong side defenses and honestly based on what we’ve seen of Phil’s acumen in the modern game I’m not completely sure it’s a code they would have cracked at all.

      Lakers beat the Celtics defense who were the first team to perfect that style in the 2010 Finals. Pretty sure Jordan and Pippen would have been just fine figuring it out.

    21. The 2nd threepeat by the Bulls was after handchecking banned I believe.

      Nah they made a bullshit unenforced hand-check tweak in 93 but the only hand-check changes that ever mattered started in 99-00 and kicked in hard in 04.

    22. I think the Bulls could certainly win, but if you literally brought them out of a time machine tomorrow (and assuming Steve Kerr playing against Steve Kerr’s team didn’t create some irresovable temporal paradox) and had them play the Dubs they’d have no fucking idea what hit him. Klay & Curry combined take about as many 3’s as the Bulls did as a team.

    23. @25

      Cool. Wasn’t sure about that. I still think the whistle gets put away quite frequently still in Finals series. Cleveland/GSW last year was extremely physical and Delly had his hands all over Steph every time down the floor. Don’t think the handcheck/no handcheck rules would matter that much tbh.

    24. Plus how can Kerr both play for the Bulls and coach Golden State. It just doesn’t make sense

      ahahahahaha I’m actually laughing out loud

      Seriously, Curry is getting a lot of great shots because of Draymond’s excellent screens and the “spacing” with so many great shooters hanging out in the corners, but he’s a singular, unique, real talent who could hit those shots in virtually any system that puts a bunch of players at the perimeter and lets him run in circles around his roll man. No one in the league has been able to stop him from getting his shot off. The Bulls aren’t some kind of magical unicorn team that could solve any matchup problem through sheer talent.

    25. No one in the league has been able to stop him from getting his shot off. The Bulls aren’t some kind of magical unicorn team that could solve any matchup problem through sheer talent.

      Jordan is the most singular talent in the history of the NBA. Curry’s great, but let’s not act like the Bulls were chopped liver without all-time great talent.

      Jordan, Pippen and Rodman are better defensively than anybody in GSW’s small ball lineup other than Draymond who is on that level.

    26. most important, would jerian grant be forced to watch the game next to jim cleamons on the bulls bench?

    27. I think the Bulls could certainly win, but if you literally brought them out of a time machine tomorrow (and assuming Steve Kerr playing against Steve Kerr’s team didn’t create some irresovable temporal paradox) and had them play the Dubs they’d have no fucking idea what hit him. Klay & Curry combined take about as many 3’s as the Bulls did as a team.

      Oh yeah, if they just showed up without any preparation, the Warriors would destroy them. Given time to plan, I think the Bulls could match them, but it’d be almost a toss-up. Harper/Jordan/Pippen/Kukoc/Rodman is a hell of a small ball lineup, so I bet we’d see a lot of that.

    28. Jordan is the most singular talent in the history of the NBA. Curry’s great, but let’s not act like the Bulls were chopped liver without all-time great talent.

      The Bulls were the greatest team in history. Michael Jordan also missed shot attempts. Sometimes he blew assignments on defense. He committed fouls. He may be the greatest player ever, but he’s not perfect. That’s in part why the Bulls lost 10 games that year.

    29. Would the 1983-84 Tar Heels (Michael Jordan, Sam Perkins, Brad Daugherty, Kenny Smith and Joe Wolf) beat the current 76’ers?

      I think they would.

      I’m trying real hard to make this a UNC thread atm.

    30. That’s in part why the Bulls lost 10 games that year.

      including one when we beat them by like 30 points in what has to be the greatest coaching debut of all time: JVG!

    31. Don’t try to soil my pristinely implanted memory of the great JVG losing his NBA virginity Brian. It was magical.

    32. The Bulls were the greatest team in history. Michael Jordan also missed shot attempts. Sometimes he blew assignments on defense. He committed fouls. He may be the greatest player ever, but he’s not perfect. That’s in part why the Bulls lost 10 games that year.

      Right because I said Michael Jordan never missed, never missed assignments on defense, never committed fouls and was perfect in every way. As always you’re excellent at arguing against a point nobody was making.

    33. “Curry’s great, but”

      Nothing you said after this could make any sense. He’s leading the league in PTS, PPG, FG, 3PA, 3PM, 3PT%, TS%, STL, STL/G, OWS, WS, WS48, WP, WP48, BPM, OBPM, VORP and PER. Oh wait, and then he’s #2 in eFG%, FGA, USG%, and FT%.

      Trying to figure out how St. Jordan is singular when Curry’s season is not. The dude is doing unprecedented stuff on a basketball court. He’s achieving right now what people said about Jordan during his MVP-caliber seasons. This is one of the greatest seasons by any player in history. Offensively, it is the greatest season in the modern era, and he’s still leading the league in steals.

    34. Never said Curry’s season wasn’t singular or great, just that Jordan is widely recognized as the greatest player for good reason and that the Bulls had other great players on their team whom I listed.

      Keep arguing the point that nobody’s making though. Must be fun being a jackass 100% of the time.

    35. I think both the peak Lakers and Celtics of the 80s were better than the Bulls even though they didn’t win as many games in the regular season. The Celtics had Bill Walton coming off the bench for crying out loud. Even a diminished Bill Walton would kick ass in the NBA right now.

    36. I’ve watched both teams. The Bulls would win the series. I don’t know about a sweep. Thugs ruled in those days. Pippen would contain Steph. That changes the dynamic.

    37. I’ve watched both teams. The Bulls would win the series. I don’t know about a sweep. Thugs ruled in those days. Pippen would contain Steph. That changes the dynamic.

      I guess it’s important to clarify which rules they’d be playing under. If the Bulls could hand check them, then yes, I agree that the Bulls would probably have the advantage, as Harper, Jordan, Pippen and Rodman would bully the non-Green Warriors. If they couldn’t, though, then I think that evens things up.

    38. Slow the tempo way down relying on MJ/Lebron to create something (even something just okay) as the clock expires. Pound them on the offensive glass. Be really long and disruptive defensively so every game becomes a slog that’s close late.

      Jordan creating with the no hand check rule would be a killer. But Cleveland last year is a good example, imagine they had Pippen instead of JR, Harper instead of Shump, Kukoc instead of anyone, Rodman instead of Thompson. And Cleveland took GS to 6 games!

    39. I kinda think that without the handcheck rule, Jordan would have been virtually unstoppable. So for me the Bulls win either way.

    40. I guess it’s important to clarify which rules they’d be playing under. If the Bulls could hand check them, then yes, I agree that the Bulls would probably have the advantage, as Harper, Jordan, Pippen and Rodman would bully the non-Green Warriors. If they couldn’t, though, then I think that evens things up

      .

      that’s really the whole thing. it was a completely different game back then. Steph is strong as heck but would he shoot it quite as well if he ended up plastered to the floor every time he drove to the hoop? The punishment that guys like Jordan and Iverson took was unreal – not sure Steph could handle that. And the hand checking. Derek Harper would hand check him out to half court like he did everyone (of course Steph could still shoot it from there). And the illegal defense thing — that was part of what made Jordan so unstoppable — no Thibodeau-inspired zone defenses on the strong side all game long to deter drives into the lane.

      Could the Bulls beat the Warriors in a 7 game series with today’s rules? Impossible to know, since their team wasn’t constructed to excel in today’s game (NB: Phil Jackson). But if anything, GS has “struggled” against quick/long athletic teams that can switch without too much of a problem. Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, and Rodman could very easily match up with the Death lineup — all 5 guys could probably credibly switch on any PNR. And I still have nightmares about Jordan and Pippen’s speed closing out on shooters.

    41. I’m curious how others would factor the ’01 Lakers into the conversation. Only 56 regular season wins, and the single loss playoffs was against a fairly weak slate of opponents, but I think peak Shaq was as unbeatable as anyone in a short series where he was focused. He didn’t have anything like the night to night focus that both MJ and Curry epitomize, so his teams were never going to push for any win records, but in a game he wanted to win there simply wasn’t anything to be done with him, and given that he could dunk it every time he didn’t really have “off” nights. Put up 27-13-3 on 54% shooting in a 4 game sweep against Duncan and Robinson in the conference finals. Oh yeah, and they had Kobe too. If we’re talking one seven game series I think they’re a big problem for any of the teams already discussed.

    42. The 96 bulls were just nuts – even in that era they had a bunch of great 3 point shooters – Jordan shot 42.7%, Kukoc 40.4%, Pippen 37.4, and Steve Kerr 51.5%. I mean, imagine a Jordan Pippen PNR throwing out to Kukoc or Kerr when guys pinched into the lane, with Rodman cleaning up 18.3% of the available offensive rebounds. And substitute Harper for Kerr and you would have 4 guys on the floor at any given time (Jordan, Pippen, Harper, Kukoc) as more than capable playmakers.

      Meanwhile – Steve Kerr that year – 50.6% FG, 51.5% 3P%, 92.9% FT. That’ll do on any team.

    43. peak Shaq was as unbeatable as anyone in a short series

      I think so too. But after Shaq and Kobe they had Grant over his peak, Harper over his peak, and then Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, and Robert Horry. Nice but not great.

    44. Yeah what rules they’re under is key.

      For the sake of argument: say hand checking and strong side overloads were both allowed, who would then win the 7 game series?

      I still think GS, as they’re also like, one of the deepest teams ever, even if they play Mo Speights. Idk, this is all hard to guess at. Just be thankful we get the next best thing in Spurs v Warriors in the WCF

    45. Honestly what makes both those Bulls and this Warriors team great is that they weren’t reliant on one play type. People talk about the Draymond/Steph PNR a lot and it’s a great play, but they get better shots off of their split cuts, when they work Curry and Klay using off ball screens or in dribble hand off, having Curry and Klay screen for each other off the ball, etc.

      It’d be an awesome series that unfortunately we’ll never get to see.

    46. @47 It was with the shortened 3 point line, though. Without it, Jordan and Pippen probably go back to being mediocre 3 point shooters.

    47. @47 It was with the shortened 3 point line, though. Without it, Jordan and Pippen probably go back to being mediocre 3 point shooters.

      True. One thing that I wonder about, though, is what Jordan’s three game would have looked like had he played in the modern era. You have to figure he would have worked more on it, right? I mean, I know Wade never learned to shoot three, but it seems hard for me to believe Jordan wouldn’t have.

    48. I can’t believe we’re actually debating whether a team that could go 74-8 would get swept in a series by any team at all.

    49. True. One thing that I wonder about, though, is what Jordan’s three game would have looked like had he played in the modern era. You have to figure he would have worked more on it, right?

      that’s one of the reasons these questions are unanswerable, the other being physics. Young Jordan was sort of analogous Russell Westbrook, and Russ hasn’t really learned to shoot 3’s either, so who knows.

    50. I can’t believe we’re actually debating whether a team that could go 74-8 would get swept in a series by any team at all.

      Oh yeah, there’s no way either team sweeps the other one. The only one that I could see ending up in a possible sweep was the Bulls playing against the Warriors without any prep time, as the Warriors would shock them with all the threes. Even there, the Bulls would presumably adjust by Game 3 (presumably). The issue is probably more about their personnel, as in whether they would have the personnel to change their lineups dramatically to match the Warriors.

    51. that’s one of the reasons these questions are unanswerable, the other being physics. Young Jordan was sort of analogous Russell Westbrook, and Russ hasn’t really learned to shoot 3’s either, so who knows.

      I think my issue there is that Jordan still shot 33% from three for his career, while not really trying to shoot a ton of threes. Neither Wade nor Westbrook’s peak from three-point land ever matched Jordan’s average for his career from three. When you add in the fact that Jordan averaged 33% from three in his career while not exceeding 18% from three in his first four seasons, I think it appears likely that he would have become a good three point shooter if he came up in the modern era, where it would have been ingrained in his game going back to college and even high school.

    52. Yeah, you’re probably right. I wouldn’t bet against Michael Jordan when it came to anything basketball related.

    53. How fucking amazing is it that Tim Duncan was actually a junior Wake that year and just as well could have been in the NBA, and will be around to test out the 15-16 Warriors.

    54. Assuming rules of engagement were established to not overly favor one era over the other, I think it would be a hell of a series. I don’t think people appreciate just how similar Pippen and Green are when it comes to winning contributions. Both are/were top defenders at multiple positions, and both are/were able to rebound the ball and start the break without an outlet pass, which catalyzes an efficient offense all by itself.

      And, along with Green, the Warriors have great wing defenders in Igoudala and Thompson (finally getting his defensive due this year), as well as strength and length in Barnes and Livingston.

      The one place that Golden State sometimes hurts is defensive rebounding, which Rodman would just compound for them (Drummond had 21 rebounds in the Warriors loss to the Pistons this year). So there would be a few games that Rodman would probably tip in Chicago’s favor. But there are a few that Curry and Thompson would simply shoot the Bulls out of too.

      I say Warriors in 7, because Curry’s not streaky enough to go cold for an entire series, and there just doesn’t seem to be any way to keep him from gettin shots off.

    55. Oh yeah, there’s no way either team sweeps the other one. The only one that I could see ending up in a possible sweep was the Bulls playing against the Warriors without any prep time, as the Warriors would shock them with all the threes.

      I actually think GS would have a more difficult time adjusting to the old rules than the other way around- it’d be a huge adjustment for Curry to have a hand on his hip the entire game and not being able to overload the strong side would force them into making some big readjustments on the defensive end- not being able to have Green cheat off of Rodman into the paint would leave the paint wide open with GS’s small ball lineups. At the end of the day I’d give the Bulls the edge either way- Golden State turns the ball over too much and isn’t a great defensive rebounding team so I think the Bulls (very good on the offensive glass and at forcing turnovers) would just have too big an edge in possessions for GS to make up shooting threes.

    56. This is a good hypothetical. In general, it is really difficult to adjust for eras. I give the edge to the Bulls because I think the old rules would do more to negate Curry’s advantage on the offensive end, i.e. you could put a bigger, slower player on him and probably bring him down to “only” playing like an MVP instead of having arguably the best offensive season of all time. I would probably say old rules Bulls in 5, new rules Bulls in 7.

    57. I agree 100% with the previous 2 comments. Old rules the Bulls might not sweep but it would be alot more difficult for the Warriors to adjust to the old rules than the Bulls to adjust to the new rules. Regardless of whatever rules you use I’m taking the MJ/Pippen/Rodman trio every time.

    58. Dude, you guys are really overblowing hand-checking. Yes, it was a relatively significant change, but watch the perimeter play in this video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD9FhE6d6Gw

      You guys act like they were mauling dudes on the perimeter on every possession. The possession at 1:40 features some aggressive play that wouldn’t fly in the NBA (as Jordan dribbles from the corner), but when Jordan faces the basket, his defender plays well off of him. Yes, there are some plays that would be called fouls in today’s NBA, but there are quite a few possessions where the ball-handler is in the triple-threat position and the defender is giving space even after a dribble-drive begins, despite the ability to use hand-checking to impede his way.

    59. Its not just hand-checking the ball handler, its the physical play off the ball and not to mention on drives to the basket where it took alot for a flagrant foul to be called back then. Late in games even today the refs do still allow alot of grabbing and physical play off the ball I will say (hell just look at Afflalo and George covering each other last night in the final couple of minutes).

      Most teams back then didn’t take advantage of the leniency with the hand-checking rules and bumping of cutters plus mauling guys off the ball. The Bad Boys Pistons certainly took advantage of the rules and Riley’s Knicks did as well and it’s no surprise the rules were technically changed after the 1994 Finals although it took about a decade for them to really enforce it.

      Regardless I certainly am not saying the Warriors are not amazing because they are. But MJ and Pippen won 6 rings in 8 years together (technically 6 in 7 since MJ didnt play in 1994) so you know let’s take it easy with thinking this Warriors team can beat them. Let’s see them 3 peat just once before we can start mentioning them in the 90’s Bulls category.

    60. I do think that the Bulls could have won 8 in a row had Jordan not been forced to “retire” for illegal gambling, but there were far fewer collectivist rules then that impeded long-term dynasties.

    61. I wouldn’t want any coach who would actually coach for the Knicks.

    62. We can talk all we want about what player moves the Knicks can/should make this summer but just as important is who will be the next head coach and I don’t have a very good feeling about how that hiring process will play out.

    63. I don’t have a very good feeling about how that hiring process will play out.

      The thing is we have a GM who has made it pretty explicit that he intends to meddle in the coach’s business, that he wants to pick a significant chunk of the assistant coaches and that not listening to them is a fireable offense, that he expects you at least in large part to run his offensive system, etc., etc. There are not a lot of top coaching hires who are going to submit to those circumstances.

      Thibs, for example, has floated constantly since he left Chicago that he wants to have some personnel control at his next job. Nothing could be further from that than taking a job where the GM is not only a really powerful force in the organization, but expects to be allowed to be as involved in the coach’s part of the org. as he wants (while still being able to take spring break when he needs it).

    64. There was a lot more that Fisher got fired for than not listening to his assistant coaches, like not skipping a coaches retreat before the season for no reason, not being all that good at his job (not as bad as Rambis), not communicating with Jackson and then simultaneously before camp saying he wanted Jackson to be more hands on, etc.

      Whatever we’re going to find out most of what we need to know about Phil this summer. My guess is that he hires Blatt.

    65. This color commentary on TBS is murdering my soul. How do you miss a play-by-play account of that corner three-pointer while waxing poetic about some bullshit?

      90 seconds left in a three-point game and they’re at a 6.

    66. Also, people who prefer college basketball to the NBA probably prefer McDonald’s to Shake Shack.

    67. Always, always good to see MJ catch an L. I hope he had some big stacks on his boys tonight

    68. That finish was bonkers. Let the Jordan memes flow.

      PS someone check on Alecto, poor guy.

    69. Ugh ugh ugh officiating and not playing up on a buzzer beater ughhhhhhhhhbhhhh

      In chapel hill and it’s heartbreaking

    70. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a building go from 100% hype to 0% so fast.

      Still not as bad as when the Knicks lost to the Pacers in the 2nd round (I actually cried then because I care too much about this dumb team.)

    71. Meanwhile, on the subject of the team we all masochistically root for for reasons unknown, apparently we shouldn’t be expecting either Thibs or Walton to come coach here.

      Earlier in the article Berman says that Phil might be sitting on a surprise candidate:

      However, Rambis has brought one overriding intangible that gives him a shot. Rambis breeds continuity and brings Jackson close to the action. That should be of great value, though Jackson may well be sitting on a mystery candidate.

      This whole thing feels very much like complete guesswork by Berman.

      Trouble with Thibs is that he has 3 strikes — 1) wants more control than perhaps Phil wants to give; 2) strongly associated with Frank Isola, who Dolan can’t stand; 3) strongly associated with JVG, who by all reports Phil can’t stand.

      Honestly, I just don’t want Brian Shaw or Rambis. Pretty much anyone else I’d be ok with. I don’t think Blatt is coming, if for no other reason than there was basically a mutiny in Cleveland. I don’t see Phil hiring guys that players rejected since he believes so strongly in “culture”.

    72. I see Blatt coming, don’t know why. I’d be pretty shocked if Rambis or Shaw come. I’d be surprised if Walton left the Warriors to coach for our pathetic team.

    73. Blatt was teammates with Mills at Princeton and his base offense in Europe incorporated elements of the Princeton and Triangle offenses pretty heavily. I think this has a better chance of happening than Rambis, Shaw or Thibs.

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