Knicks Morning News (2016.02.12)

  • [New York Times] NBA All-Star Weekend Highlights Canada’s Growing Hoops Love (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:15:33 GMT)

    When Greg Anthony arrived in Vancouver to join the inaugural Grizzlies team in 1995, the cash in his pocket wasn’t the only currency that he needed to exchange.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Oklahoma City Thunder Defeat New Orleans Pelicans (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 05:12:51 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook just missed a triple-double, and the host Oklahoma City Thunder beat the New Orleans Pelicans, 121-95.

  • [New York Times] Thunder Beat Pelicans; Teams Mourn Ingrid Williams’ Death (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 05:09:42 GMT)

    Basketball didn’t matter much to Kevin Durant on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Hornets’ Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Injures His Shoulder (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 05:08:33 GMT)

    Hornets forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist tore the labrum in his right shoulder for a second time, possibly ending his season.

  • [New York Times] Bucks Go Into All-Star Break With 99-92 Win Over Wizards (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 05:06:40 GMT)

    Khris Middleton’s role on the Milwaukee Bucks has evolved from catch-and-shoot perimeter player to crunch-time playmaker.

  • [New York Times] Bucks Pull Away From Wizards Down the Stretch (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 04:57:27 GMT)

    Khris Middleton scored 14 of his 27 points in the fourth quarter as the Milwaukee Bucks pulled away from the Washington Wizards down the stretch for a 99-92 victory on Thursday at the Bradley Center.

  • [New York Times] Thunder Down Pelicans in Oklahoma (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 04:48:27 GMT)

    Oklahoma City and New Orleans came into their matchup Thursday with heavy hearts.

  • [New York Times] Roundup: After Wasting Lead, Indiana Is Able to Upend No. 4 Iowa (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 04:45:42 GMT)

    Indiana rallied at home to upset No. 4 Iowa, 85-78, after blowing a big lead.

  • [New York Times] Thunder Beat Pelicans; Teams Mourn Ingrid Williams’ Death (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 03:33:48 GMT)

    Playing with a heavy heart a night after Thunder assistant and former Pelicans coach Monty Williams’ wife died, Russell Westbrook led Oklahoma to a 121-95 victory over New Orleans on Thursday.

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: Donyell Marshall, a Holder of the 3-Point Record, Waits for It to Fall (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 02:44:40 GMT)

    In today’s N.B.A., the record for made 3-pointers in a game, 12, shared by Marshall and Kobe Bryant, could be broken any day, but it has survived since 2003.

  • [New York Times] NBA All-Star MVP Voting to Include Use of Player Emojis (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 00:51:54 GMT)

    Voting for the NBA All-Star Game MVP will include Twitter — using emojis.

  • [New York Daily News] Raissman: In Jackson, Knicks owner Dolan found screen setter (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 04:57:55 GMT)

    Derek Fisher’s dismissal proves that in Phil Jackson, James Dolan has found the perfect scapegoat — Big Chief Fall Guy.

  • [New York Daily News] Seraphin, buried on Knicks bench with Fisher, looks for more (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 04:38:21 GMT)

    With Derek Fisher out of the picture, Kevin Seraphin is looking forward to showing he’s better on the court than the bench.

  • [New York Daily News] Derek Fisher apparently going on vacation with Gloria Govan (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 02:05:56 GMT)

    Derek Fisher is flying high.

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Can Dolan trust Jackson to pick Knicks next coach? (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 01:57:08 GMT)

    James Dolan interfering isn’t always a bad thing. He had an animated meeting with Knicks president Phil Jackson.

  • [New York Post] Shaquille O’Neal on Kobe exit, Jackson game plan and Fisher firing (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 02:10:08 -0500)

    Phil Jackson and Kobe Bryant — two of the architects of the Lakers' most-recent dynasty — are struggling to add to their legacies this season. Meanwhile the final member of that trio, Shaquille O'Neal, is being celebrated at every turn for his. In recent months, it was announced that O'Neal is up for induction into…

  • [New York Post] Porzingis is star of All-Star Weekend — and he’s not even All-Star (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 00:05:32 -0500)

    TORONTO — Kristaps Porzingis arrived at his first All-Star Weekend of what could be many. He attended the team meeting Thursday night for the World Team, which will face the America-born squad in Friday night's Rookie-Sophomore extravaganza. He won't be around for the main event Sunday — despite finishing sixth in front-court voting — but…

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Knicks Daily Links: Friday (Fri, 12 Feb 2016 05:42:38 EST)

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    44 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.02.12)”

    1. Steve Novak played 2 minutes last night. He hoisted up three 3’s and hit 2 of them. I miss Steve Novak.

    2. His TS% is .708! And his WS/48 is a career-high .188!

      …in 24 min and 9 shots for the season. I still love him tho

    3. Steve Novak, you beautiful, radiant, splendiferous, uncanny, majestic water buffalo.

      I remember fondly how much JR Smith loved to pass to him.

      Not so fondly, how Miami guarded him by having Dwyane Wade stand still and deny him the ball.

      But it was awesome how opposing teams and away crowds would visibly freak out when good ball movement got him an open shot.

    4. This is a continuation from the previous thread.

      I think this whole “penetrating” PG discussion is misunderstanding the triangle and what Jackson is trying to do. In the triangle, the PG does not dominate the ball and create plays like on the typical team. He’s just one of 5 players whose job is to bring up the ball and start the triangle or make an entry pass etc… Calderon is the PERFECT triangle PG from Jackson’s point of view. He’s a willing passer and can hit outside shots. If he wasn’t such a huge a defensive liability Jackson probably wouldn’t even be considering upgrading that position. If Galloway was just a hair better playmaker and 3 point shooter (which he may still become), he would be the PG of the future even though he’s not really a PG in a traditional system (which we are not running).

      If you ask me, eventually Galloway is going to be the PG and the Knicks are going to make a major upgrade to SG (Batum?).

      Then they will eventually move Porzingis to C and possible trade Lopez for an upgrade at the 3/4.

      Porzingis – C
      Player to be named later – PF (someone like Millsap would be perfect)
      Melo – SF/PF
      Batum – SG/SF
      Galloway – PG

    5. I also really like Batum over Conley or a different PG upgrade. I still dream of a Lin return to NY, but much of that is for irrational/emotional reasons.

      However, doesn’t the triangle still benefit from a player that can break down the defense with the dribble drive? I think a player as good as Conley would thrive in any system. Or do you think Batum’s well-rounded skill set covers that need well?

    6. On another topic, it looks like the Rockets are trying to move Dwight Howard. It seems to me that Boston might be interested, at least if Dwight agrees not to opt out at the end of this season. They could offer Lee and picks. They would have to throw in Jerebko or someone else to make salaries match. I think it would make Boston much better and might help Houston too. any thoughts?

    7. As a Celtic hater, I really, really hope they make a deal for Dwight Howard. He’s on the downside of his career, not to mention pretty much of a douche who doesn’t seem to give a crap about winning or losing.

      According to my Celtics fan friends, the Boston media and fans are up in arms that Ainge is even considering it.

    8. Batum would be the most fun, Fournier would too, but I’m still driving the crabbewagon:

      Great 3 pt shooter especially from corners, actually stands to regress *up* to higher %s elsewhere despite putting up good numbers from 3, elite midrange #s. Stuck behind CJ and Dame. RFA on a team already committed to 1) a max guy 2) another guy @ his position 3) several role players. More likely to not be matched than Fournier and Clarkson and Batum. Will command lower salary.

      Still has a ways to go on defense of course, as do Fournier and Clarkson.

    9. and re: penetrating point guards….phil’s lakers and bulls didn’t have them and often “penetrated via pass” as he phrases it, but they also had shooting guards with elite drive-rates / who were elite at breaking down defense, even in the age before hyperathletic guards.

    10. and re: penetrating point guards….phil’s lakers and bulls didn’t have them and often “penetrated via pass” as he phrases it, but they also had shooting guards with elite drive-rates / who were elite at breaking down defense, even in the age before hyperathletic guards.

      Phil has flat out said is doesn’t like offenses that rely heavily on PG penetration. He said that you can make defensive adjustments to teams that rely on PG penetration that will take away a lot of their offense. He seems to refer penetration that comes from throwing the ball down into the post. Personally, I’m not much of a fan of post plan because the overall stats are not that good, but if you have a dominant C or a mismatch somewhere else, I guess that’s fine.

    11. and re: penetrating point guards….phil’s lakers and bulls didn’t have them and often “penetrated via pass” as he phrases it, but they also had shooting guards with elite drive-rates / who were elite at breaking down defense, even in the age before hyperathletic guards.

      I tweeted something similar, but we basically need 1 of Afflalo, Gallo, Grant, or Jose (our guards) to play the Jordan/Kobe role in terms of post-up and driving ability. In other words, it ain’t happening. We’ve already seen what it looks like when Afflalo tries to approximate that role…

    12. The question is, before talking about the PG position, is what coach Phil plans on bringing in, and with what system? If it’s Blatt, he works with traditional fast point guards; Walton, a shooter SG type; if it’s Thibodeau, its a defense-first penetrating PG; if it’s Shaw/Rambis, we’ll suck no matter what.

    13. Phil has flat out said is doesn’t like offenses that rely heavily on PG penetration. He said that you can make defensive adjustments to teams that rely on PG penetration that will take away a lot of their offense. He seems to refer penetration that comes from throwing the ball down into the post. Personally, I’m not much of a fan of post plan because the overall stats are not that good, but if you have a dominant C or a mismatch somewhere else, I guess that’s fine.

      Right, I think Phil wants guard penetration to come off of ball movement and spacing versus isolation, which is a little ironic considering Phil had 2 of the best (if not THE best) 1-on-1 players of their generations.

    14. Phil has flat out said is doesn’t like offenses that rely heavily on PG penetration. He said that you can make defensive adjustments to teams that rely on PG penetration that will take away a lot of their offense.

      Cool. Maybe he can show us what some of those adjustments are and we can start using them.

    15. “not to mention pretty much of a douche”
      Kind of sums up the best reason of all to hope that the Celtics trade for him. It’s unbelievable how much his reputation has deteriorated over the last four years or so.

    16. tweeted something similar, but we basically need 1 of Afflalo, Gallo, Grant, or Jose (our guards) to play the Jordan/Kobe role in terms of post-up and driving ability. In other words, it ain’t happening. We’ve already seen what it looks like when Afflalo tries to approximate that role…

      I think that’s what Melo is trying to do with a lot of his drive and kick game

    17. “not to mention pretty much of a douche”
      Kind of sums up the best reason of all to hope that the Celtics trade for him. It’s unbelievable how much his reputation has deteriorated over the last four years or so.

      To think he came into the league presented as a pious young man.

    18. @ 5

      KP might eventually move to Center but will the knicks decide to do that this summer or next summer? Also, what kind of Market does Lopez even have and do those team that need him have the pieces the knicks need?

      Millsap would be the best get outside of Draymond but I doubt the Knicks can get Millsap even if ATL blows it up. I think the closest thing they could get would be Tobias Harris. He is not Paul but he is still young and someone who can grow with Porzingis. I just do not see how Lopez can get you Millsap or Harris.

      Batum is probably not coming here so the Knicks are going to have to go for the lesser sg/sfs on the market but unfortunately most of them are restricted free agents( Crabbe/Fournier and Bazemore).

    19. I think that’s what Melo is trying to do with a lot of his drive and kick game

      I can see that, I just question how sustainable that is to rely on from a 30yo SF/PF coming off knee surgery. But at least he’s seemed game to try and fill that role.

      In theory this could be Derrick Williams too, except for the fact that he’s, ya know, Derrick Williams.

    20. have you guys seen bballbreakdown’s vid from today about the triangle sets Thibs is known for running? I knew he ran some with Pau, but I had no idea about the frequency with which he implemented it even before then. Pretty neat video:

      https://t.co/1fIzqOvgQY

    21. @22

      The problem with Melo right now is he has to be the PnR perpetrator, Pinch post passer, mid post player, post entry passer, and etc. That’s a lot to do for a guy coming off knee surgery.

      The knicks need more quality passers to make the triangle offense work.

    22. The problem with Melo right now is he has to be the PnR perpetrator, Pinch post passer, mid post player, post entry passer, and etc. That’s a lot to do for a guy coming off knee surgery.

      I know we all think he’s overpaid, but calling him a thief is a bit much.

    23. @23

      WOW. That video was amazing. I knew Thibodeau was an elite defensive coach, but those schemes are beautiful. Now if only Calderon/Afflalo/Melo/KP/RoLo was as effective as Rose/Butler/Deng/Boozer/Noah…

      Then again, you get Thibodeau, and now you have a top coach with a major market, with a few well-respected players, could open up free agency.

    24. How much confidence is there that Thibs has learned his lesson about running his guys into the ground and shortening their careers? I am fiercely protective of my Kristaps.

    25. Zero.

      He was willing to get fired over it.

      He is who he is. If you hire him, you know what you’ll get, and he will almost definitely affect KP’s career the same way he has Rose, Noah, Deng, Butler, et al.

      If we hire Thibs, Melo will be done sooner, and KP’s career will be shorter.

      STAY AWAY!

    26. Hiring Thibs and expecting him not to run KP into the ground is like trading for Bargnani and expecting him to shoot 40% from three.

    27. Hiring Thibs and expecting him not to run KP into the ground is like trading for Bargnani and expecting him to shoot 40% from three.

      ::pinches bridge of nose::

      Do you know anything about interaction effects, floor spacing or synergy?

    28. Hey, was just googling Melo to see how old he is (he’ll be 32 in May) and saw this article in the NYP.

      Money quote:

      Asked would he have to also think about his Knicks future, Anthony, who has a no-trade clause, gave an interesting response.

      “Not yet. Not yet. Not yet,’’ Anthony said. “I’m pretty sure I’ll have that conversation with myself, my family, my team [agents]. That’s not a conversation right now.’’

    29. Anyone want to start making bets on who the latter-day incarnations of Lazarro Borrell, Vernon Maxwell, Vladimir Stepania, Luc Longley, Travis Knight, and Glen Rice will be when the trade does go down?

    30. Melo’s trade kicker will be much larger if he accepts a trade after the salary cap rises. He’s not going anywhere this season.

    31. Remember when I said that the Hornets were dangerous now that they were healthy? Well, MKG is now out for the season after another shoulder injury.

      I saw some commenters complaining that Clifford should have had him on a minutes restriction. Dude had another player fall on him! It wasn’t a minutes issue!

      That opens up the Eastern playoff picture a bit.

    32. To me, it makes the most sense for the Knicks and for Melo to trade him to a legit contender this offseason. He’d get a chance to be on a title contender and get more money and the Knicks could do what we should have done 2 years ago and focused on a total rebuild. And now that we have a really promising young player that gives us something to build (and market) around that is more tangible than just lottery picks. Everyone wins.

    33. I don’t think the trade has legs (because of the no-trade clause). But it does make a lot of sense, depending on the picks involved.

      Also, while Melo is never leaving, I’ll admit that his statement the other day when he was asked if he has given thought to his future as a Knick, “Not yet. I’m pretty sure I’ll have that conversation with myself and my family and my team. But it’s not a conversation for right now” was pretty interesting.

    34. I’m a big time melo guy but honestly this could be a win, win, win…
      Cavs get: melo
      Celtics get: love
      Knicks get: Bradley, crowder, smart + nets pick

    35. I would love to ship Melo outta here and get that unprotected Nets pick in return. There are four players in this draft I like a lot: Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Buddy Hield and Dragan Bender. It would be dreamy to pair up any of those four with Porzingis.

      I don’t know why Cleveland would do that trade though. Love for Melo? They’d have to get something else in return. Kevin Love is four years younger than Melo and more productive.

    36. I don’t know why Cleveland would do that trade though. Love for Melo? They’d have to get something else in return. Kevin Love is four years younger than Melo and more productive.

      It’s not like Lebron has always been a great GM. He’s certainly not immune to being swayed by “names.”

    37. It’s a fantasy, because I can’t imagine Melo going to Cleveland, but the idea of Porzingis, Lopez, Hield or Simmons plus a free agent or two makes me salivate.

      Knowing the Knicks’ luck, though, Melo will agree, Cavs win title, and the Brooklyn pick is outside the top 5, while Denver wins the lottery via the pick swap from the original Melo trade…

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