Knicks Morning News (2015.11.05)

  • [New York Times] Curry Scores 31 to Lead Warriors Past Clippers, 112-108 (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 07:39:44 GMT)

    After four lopsided wins to open the season, the Golden State Warriors were happy to find themselves in a nail-biter for a change.

  • [New York Times] James Takes Over Late to Lift Cavaliers Past Knicks (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 05:54:32 GMT)

    First he tore open his shirt, then LeBron James tore open the game.

  • [New York Times] DeRozan, Raptors Beat Thunder 103-98 to Remain Unbeaten (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 05:12:41 GMT)

    Toronto’s fast start is no fluke.

  • [New York Times] Lillard Scores 35, Trail Blazers Beat Utah Jazz 108-92 (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 05:12:39 GMT)

    Damian Lillard had 35 points and C.J. McCollum added 27 as the Portland Trail Blazers defeated the Utah Jazz 108-92 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Hawks Beat Nets, Keeping Them Winless; Wizards Edge Spurs With Last-Second 3 (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 05:09:14 GMT)

    Al Horford scored 21 points as the Hawks earned their fifth straight victory. Brook Lopez had 27 points for the Nets, who dropped to 0-5.

  • [New York Times] LeBron Scores 23, Rips Jersey in Cavs’ 96-86 Win Over Knicks (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 05:03:38 GMT)

    The jersey was too tight and so was the score.

  • [New York Times] Eric Bledsoe Scores 19, Balanced Suns Rout Kings 118-97 (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 05:01:17 GMT)

    Eric Bledsoe scored 19 points, Brandon Knight added 17 and the Phoenix Suns routed the Sacramento Kings 118-97 Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Harden Leads Rockets Over Magic in Overtime 119-114 (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 04:55:09 GMT)

    James Harden scored 28 points, including seven in overtime, to help the Houston Rockets outlast the Orlando Magic for a 119-114 victory on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Cavaliers 96, Knicks 86: Cavaliers, Taking Cue From LeBron James’s Sleeves, Go on Tear to Beat Knicks (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 04:04:13 GMT)

    James, frustrated in the first half, tore the sleeves of his jersey, and he finished with 23 points to help Cleveland rally past Carmelo Anthony and the Knicks.

  • [New York Times] Horford, Schroder Lead Hawks in 101-87 Victory Over Nets (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 03:49:10 GMT)

    Al Horford scored 21 points, Dennis Schroder added 20 and the Atlanta Hawks won their fifth straight game, 101-87 over the Brooklyn Nets on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Middleton Scores 21, Bucks Beat 76ers in Parker’s Return (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 03:43:03 GMT)

    Khris Middleton scored 21 points and the Milwaukee Bucks welcomed forward Jabari Parker back from a left knee injury Wednesday night with a 91-87 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers.

  • [New York Times] George Scores 26 to Lead the Pacers Past Celtics, 100-98 (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 03:31:07 GMT)

    Paul George had 26 points and 10 rebounds, Jordan Hill added 16 points and 10 boards, and the Indiana Pacers beat the Boston Celtics 100-98 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Beal Hits 3 With 0.3 Seconds Left, Wizards Beat Spurs 102-99 (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 03:00:58 GMT)

    Bradley Beal made a 3-pointer with 0.3 seconds remaining to lift the Washington Wizards to a 102-99 victory over the San Antonio Spurs on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] LeBron Tears Open Sleeves on Too-Tight Jersey (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 02:36:55 GMT)

    LeBron James has intentionally torn the sleeves on the new jerseys being worn by the Cavaliers in their game against the New York Knicks.

  • [New York Daily News] LeBron James rips sleeves on jersey as Cavs run past Knicks (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 06:08:04 GMT)

    LeBron James ripped his jersey and then shredded the Knicks in the fourth quarter.

  • [New York Daily News] Kristaps Porzingis limited due to foul trouble (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 05:36:50 GMT)

    It was another impressive performance from the rookie Kristaps Porzingis, except for the foul trouble.

  • [New York Daily News] Nets drop to 0-5 after 101-87 loss to Hawks (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 04:01:19 GMT)

    Al Horford scored 21 points, Dennis Schroder added 20 and the Atlanta Hawks won their fifth straight game.

  • [New York Post] Porzingis’ decreased minutes explained, and it wasn’t his neck (Thu, 05 Nov 2015 02:53:40 -0500)

    CLEVELAND — It wasn't his neck, but it was foul trouble that limited the night for 7-foot-3 rookie Kristaps Porzingis in his first match against LeBron James. Massages, icing and mental exercises allowed him to play, but five fouls had him sitting early and then late. "I just got to be smarter,'' Porzingis said after…

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    58 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.11.05)”

    1. I’m anxious to see what this team looks like once Melo has his legs back. Hopefully by then he will be able to take over in the 4th.

    2. Me too Totes. It’s obvious he’s still rounding into shape.

      And I’ll just say that it’s so very frustrating to read all the “fire Fisher”, “trade Melo” talk. The average prediction for this team is somewhere to have a record around 31-50. Every team they have faced was in the playoffs last season. The Spurs and Cavs may face off in the finals. This is a whole new team with two rookies that are getting prime minutes.

      Jeeze, calm the f*** down everyone. Last night’s game was a lot of fun and it showed that these players can play with the best. They just have to gel.

    3. If the Knicks keep playing at the level that they have for the first 5 games, it is realistic to think the could get to 2016 at 17-16.

      The 2015-16 Knicks: A team I can give a damn about. [h/t to whoever posted that catchphrase]

    4. The Knicks are kind of like the Mets this year. Some young pieces, an aging superstar that is a superstar by reputation only, pretty low expectations but flashes of promise early in the season to give fans unexpected hope. And a mediocre coach, which unfortunately in basketball actually has a material impact on the results.

    5. I’m anxious to see what this team looks like once Melo has his legs back. Hopefully by then he will be able to take over in the 4th.

      This is basically a continuation of “wait ’til the team gels” or “wait until Carmelo has the right system” or “wait ’til Tyson Chandler isn’t clogging the post.” Face it: it’s not going to happen.

    6. THCJ – as our resident bracing bucket of cold water, do you think I am nuts to see a path for this team (playing at this level, not at some hypothetical higher level after ‘Melo gets his “legs back”) might be 17-16 at the New Year?

      As I see the schedule, January, February and March are going to be rough, but if they get to April with 33 wins, they would be in playoff contention because their last six games in April are likely to be against tanking teams.

    7. The Knicks are kind of like the Mets this year.

      Yeah, um, no. Coming into the season the Mets had a ton of young players with upside either on the major league roster or in the high minors. They had Harvey, deGrom, Syndergaard, Matz, Familia, d’Arnaud, Duda, Conforto, Flores and Tejada on rookie contracts, not to mention the injured Zack Wheeler and the eventually suspended Jennry Mejia. The Mets did a true rebuild, while the Knicks kind of half assed it.

    8. THCJ – as our resident bracing bucket of cold water, do you think I am nuts to see a path for this team (playing at this level, not at some hypothetical higher level after ‘Melo gets his “legs back”) might be 17-16 at the New Year?

      No, not nuts. The East is very bad at basketball — even the Cavs have players that should never see the floor in any meaningful NBA game — and there’s a possibility that Porzingis and Grant might turn out to be productive rookies. We haven’t had one of them since, what, Fields? But it’s not going to come from Carmelo. 17-16 is pretty optimistic, but it’s possible. Making an 8-seed is realistic.

    9. I tend to agree with THCJ here. We assume that Melo needs to get his legs back, but correlation is often confused with causality. It could just be that he’s in a slump, could be he wont ever be the same because of the injury or it could be he truly needs to get his legs back. I dont know what it is but i hope it gets better.

      Ephus – we’re close on our record coming out of the year. My LE is 16-17, up from my original estimate of 14-19

    10. As awful as Melo’s shooting has been, he’s on fire compared to James Harden. Through 5 games, Harden is shooting 16% from 3 point range and 29% from 2. This one is really puzzling, I’m sure he’ll snap out of it at some point, but it’s like he literally forgot how to shoot a basketball.

      (And THCJ, don’t bother with your “how dare you compare Melo to Harden!” rejoinder, I’m not comparing the two, just pointing out another marquee player in a horrendous shooting slump)

    11. At least Melo has mitigated his awful shooting with a very low turnover rate. Melo is down to a microscopic 5.9 TOV%, which comes out to 1.5 turnovers per 36 despite his customarily high usage. Maybe that’s SSS noise, but the Knicks as a team have a pretty low turnover rate this year, currently ranking #10 in TOV%, so maybe it’s something sustainable. If he can keep the turnovers super low and do his usual high volume/mediocre efficiency thing, he might be able to have a pretty good season. If he keeps racking up 10-27 shooting performances

      Eye test-wise, Melo does not look good to me. Quite frankly he looks like an old player. Whether he needs to “get his legs” or whether this is the new normal I can’t really say. He’s had one good game and four pretty crap games, so I dunno.

    12. This is basically a continuation of “wait ’til the team gels” or “wait until Carmelo has the right system” or “wait ’til Tyson Chandler isn’t clogging the post.” Face it: it’s not going to happen.

      Nope. Wait until “Carmelo has the right support cast”. It goes back to his days in Denver. He never had ‘good teammates’.

      Fact is, Melo is fine physically. Remember his recent 37-point outburst? He just lost his elevation a few years ago, does not ever run back on defense (he can when he wants, last night he tried playing hard defense against LeBron), can’t run fast breaks and his general decline was masked by the development of a very good 3-point shot and the continuation of high-volume (albeit inefficient) scoring; most people just look at “25 points” on the scoreboard and assume Melo did great.

      Last night I saw a picture I have seen many times before: the Knicks remain fairly competitive until the fourth quarter, fall behind by 5-7 points with 3 minutes to go and Melo “takes over”: he starts shooting long 2’s and dumb 3’s, goes one-against-three, misses most of his shots while everyone stands around and soon the team is down 12 with 50 seconds to go, when they stop fighting.

      That is the Melo we have, for better or worse. Expect one good game out of every four, with lots of volume scoring in between.

    13. CNB, you nailed it. I never understood why the end of games require ‘take-over’. If you’ve had success playing a certain way the entire game, i dont see why one would change in the last few minutes. Not sure if that was the reason last night, but this phenominon has always irked me in the past.

    14. Did Lebron get a technical for ripping his sleeves? Im pretty sure you cant just go ripping parts of your uniform

    15. Melo shot like 4-5 times in the 4th and I think 2-3 were already when the game was decided. Not sure what “take over” you are talking about

    16. Just running through all the end of game, recap, and these comments I think everyone needs to take a little breather. We lost to a team that went to the NBA Finals last year on their court with arguably the greatest player currently in the league playing. We played them well for 3 quarters because our guys were busting their ass to keep up and eventually they wore out. The sky isn’t falling yet. Have a little faith in our guys. Fisher will get it figured out, and if he doesn’t we can scream to fire him then. Let’s give the team another 15 games or so before crucifying everyone.

    17. I’m not worried about the players. I think the coach does a terrible job with minutes. Everyone is trying hard but they are not being put in an optimal position to succeed.

      On a side note Cleveland gets to play philly again in there next game, who did this schedule?

    18. @ 12 & 13… I see the same thing and feel the same way… just when we need that ray of hope or the beginnings of a momentum shift, we go to our guy… even when there’s 6 or 7 minutes on the clock… its just too many empty possessions … its the time to go punch for punch and it hasn’t been panning out that way… dribble dribble dribble dribble… jab jab pump pump jab jab….. klank

    19. This is basically a continuation of “wait ’til the team gels” or “wait until Carmelo has the right system” or “wait ’til Tyson Chandler isn’t clogging the post.” Face it: it’s not going to happen.

      So you’ve given up already. Why even watch the games?
      This team really hasn’t had time to gel. Melo has played in what, 11 games since his surgery?
      I haven’t given up hope because I feel we’re ahead of where I thought we would be.

      By the way, I don’t expect a lot of wins in the next few weeks. 5-15 may be looming. I just hope it doesn’t demoralize the players.

    20. to be clear #16, i actually sent almost the same text to a buddy. We played a finals team + Kevin Love tough, dominating at points and holding a Q4 lead. I’m thrilled; thus far, we’ve exceeded expectations.

    21. Clearly two camps of people here – results-oriented and process-oriented.

      The process-oriented among us don’t really care about the final score or whatever justification there is for losing. We care about dumb sub-optimal decisions/behaviors on the court that are hurting the Knicks’ probability of winning games incrementally, whether or not we actually win. It doesn’t matter if the loss is justified because we lost to a better team on their home court, what matters is that decisions were made that did not put the Knicks in the best position to win, even if they were never going to win anyway.

    22. good post 22. winning 5 hands in a row splitting 10s in blackjack doesn’t make it any less of a dumb strategy.

    23. haha yes shot like shit.

      Per 36 numbers

      23.2ppg
      8.3 rpg
      3.8 apg
      1.3 spg
      .9 bpg
      1.5 topg
      .183 w/s

      KP avg 19 and 11 per 36

      Calderon and Sasha somehow have a negative w/s

    24. That was some really ugly offensive basketball. Truly offensive! The only time that the team looked good was when Porzingis was playing. He looks like a transcendent player. Why did Fisher leave him on the bench until the game was lost? Was he punishing him or teaching him a lesson for his 5 fouls?

      I also get the impression that he’ll keep Grant on a short leash as well until he sees perfection out of him. Let the kids play Fish because their talent level is just so much higher than Thomas, Jose, and Sasha! Does Jose have compromising pictures of him?

      Also isn’t the coach supposed to be a leader on the court? Fish looks like he’s lost in his own thoughts most of the time.

    25. On both offense and defense last night, Zingy appeared to be the straw that stirred the drink…i couldnt stop smiling!

    26. Melo got hammered on at least one drive to the hoop, no whistle as usual. That must get really frustrating for him. I think he’ll hit his stride soon. He played decent defense on LeBron for most of the game I thought. Calderon brings absolutely nothing to the table, his minutes should be drastically cut. Galloway and KP played well for most of the game. It seems like Fisher is trying to find the right rotations, at least I hope that’s the explanation for running some of these guys out there for extended minutes. someone should let Seraphin know there’s no penalty for passing the ball to a teammate once in a while.

    27. Seraphin should not be allowed to play until he starts passing the ball. Simple.

      With Afflalo back, he Galloway and Grant should play 90% of the guard minutes. Period.

      Porzingis should not be sitting on the bench as the game slips away at the end. He is a transcendent player. Wake up Fish!

    28. good post 22. winning 5 hands in a row splitting 10s in blackjack doesn’t make it any less of a dumb strategy.

      Unless you count cards ;)

    29. RE: Melo’s legs:
      I’m just suggesting that this team is decent on offense without Melo taking a buncha shots in the 1st 2.5-3 quarters. If he can get to the point where he still has energy and lift in the 4th quarter, that would be great. With the exception of the Atlanta game, the team lost games because they just couldn’t sustain bucket-gettativity in the 4th. For the most part anyway. We need someone to be able to get a bucket when the shot clock is winding down or in late game situations when defenses tighten up. *knocks on wood* That should be a healthy Melo.

    30. Very very early impressions by category

      Better than expected
      Galloway!, Porzingis, Grant, O’Quinn, Thomas, Fisher, Pace, Cohesiveness, Rebounding

      Solid – As expected
      Lopez, Interior D, General level of effort

      Not good – As expected
      Calderon, Vujacic, Perimeter D (aka frank encouragement to take unencumbered shots from 3)

      Worse than expected
      Anthony’s jumper

      Meh
      Williams

      Not enough PT yet to categorize
      Seraphin, Early, Afflalo

    31. What did Early do, or not do, to end up in Fisher’s doghouse? He is getting very little PT

    32. “On both offense and defense last night, Zingy appeared to be the straw that stirred the drink…i couldnt stop smiling!”
      I think that I was one of the “earliest adopters” of the idea of drafting Porzingis, and I tend to be overly optimistic (some would say delusional), but even I have been stunned with how good he has looked. I never expected him to be doing putback dunks over all-star power forwards or forcing LeBron into turnovers (and hearing LeBron whine to the ref, “Porzingis grabbed me first.”) five games into his NBA career. I know that it’s an extremely small sample size, but he’s averaging almost 3 steals/36 and has a 19.0 PER, .139 WS48 and 96 DRtg. I never expected that.

    33. Unlike LBJ, Melo cannot play the point. When he gets the ball in the high post, he looks down to study the defender’s feet before trying a drive. No way he can spot any teammates for a pass in this posture. In post game interviews, he may talk about the team, but rarely, if ever, mentions a single teammate by name. Looks like his body will wear out before he matures.

    34. They don’t look like a very good team, and as other teams round into shape they are going to get outmanned, but… Porzingis is flashing building-block potential, and that’s something we haven’t had in a Knick’s uniform since Ewing, frankly. So they are worth watching, just to see what develops. (& no, I’m not equating Porzingis to Ewing, but it’s unbelievably refreshing to a potentially transcendent talent figuring out what he can do on the court.)

    35. I think that I was one of the “earliest adopters” of the idea of drafting Porzingis, and I tend to be overly optimistic (some would say delusional), but even I have been stunned with how good he has looked. I never expected him to be doing putback dunks over all-star power forwards or forcing LeBron into turnovers (and hearing LeBron whine to the ref, “Porzingis grabbed me first.”) five games into his NBA career. I know that it’s an extremely small sample size, but he’s averaging almost 3 steals/36 and has a 19.0 PER, .139 WS48 and 96 DRtg. I never expected that.

      When I did my profile on him, my “optimistic” take on him is that he’d be a bigger version of Gallinari, and that’s pretty much exactly what he’s been so far, along with the extra rebounding due to that height. Gallinari’s greatest attribute is his ability to go to the basket and draw contact – if Zinger perfects that, he’ll be practically unstoppable. Only Gallo took a few years to get to the point where Zinger already appears ready to get to, which suggests that Zinger could far exceed what I felt was an optimistic take.

    36. Maybe you should start equating him to Ewing. So far, his ORtg, DRtg, PER and WS48 are better than Ewing’s as a rookie…and Ewing was 3-1/2 years older.

    37. To me, Porzingis’ ceiling is a taller Dirk Nowitzki with much better defense. That is a pretty frightening ceiling when you think about it.

    38. When I did my profile on him, my “optimistic” take on him is that he’d be a bigger version of Gallinari, and that’s pretty much exactly what he’s been so far, along with the extra rebounding due to that height.

      Except he’s 100% more active on both sides of the ball than Gallinari was as a Knick. Especially defensively. He’s averaging 2.8 steals/1.9 blocks per 36- here’s a list of guys who’ve averaged 2 steals and two blocks per game over the course of a season: Not a very long list. Even if he just kept up his current 1.8 steals and 1.2 blocks per game numbers it’d make for a great year

    39. @41

      Exactly. He already projects to be a more complete player than Gallinari ever could.

    40. Exactly. He already projects to be a more complete player than Gallinari ever could.

      Because he’s taller. That’s the whole key. He’s a taller _____. That’s his whole deal. His height is what makes everything click.

    41. His game looks absolutely nothing like Gallinari’s except that they’re both ________. It’s always comparisons to other ___________ and it makes no sense. I’ve really never seen a player like him. He doesn’t look like Dirk except that they’re both _________. Doesn’t look like Rik Smits nor Shawn Bradley except the whole ________ thing, too. He and Bargnani have literally nothing in common. Bargnani isn’t even a ________ in my mind. He’s a humanoid alien lifeform who is pretending to be a professional basketball player and doing it poorly.

      Smooth shot mechanics, freakishly long arms, doesn’t really need to elevate much to play above the rim, not very fast but hustles down the court and doesn’t look totally and completely lost on defense. I love it. Grant and Galloway are playing better right now, but I love it.

    42. But it’s not just his height- Gallo had long stretches were he was really passive on both ends. KP seems to have a different mindset- very engaged at all times.

    43. Another random Zinger factoid:

      Only player since Ewing and David Robinson to have 60 points, 37 rebounds, 9 steals and 6 blocks through the first five games of his career

    44. Kristaps Porzingis’ ceiling is Patrick Ewing. There, I said it. Porzingis projects to be a two way stud with the best shooting stroke and better than average athleticism at the position. Both were born in early August and neither were born in the US. They were drafted thirty years apart and everything. That’s who Porzingis is going to be. Not the Latvian Dirk, the Latvian Shawn Bradley, the Latvian Pau Gasol, not the Latvian Ardyvas Sabonis, none of that. He’s the Latvian Pat Ewing. Ewing as a Knick averaged 22.8 points, 10.4 boards, 2 assists, 2.8 blocks and 1 steal a game. Porzingis could have similar stats in New York and probably with a better scoring efficiency than Pat’s career .557 TS% as a Knick since he should be a better three point and foul shooter.

    45. @40 –

      It’s like Dirk and Manute Bol had a child

      ROFL!

      @22 –

      Clearly two camps of people here – results-oriented and process-oriented.

      It’s not about results or the process.
      It’s about the process to achieve the results we all want – a championship team.
      That process started with this past draft and continued in free agency.

      Porzingis, Grant and Galloway could be the core. We add Hernangomez eventually. So yes, there’s a process and winning now is probably just a lucky happenstance. This team is a 30-40 win team. A .500 record and/or a playoff berth would be astounding but more than I expect this year.

      Let’s call it realism vs pipe-dreams.

      That being said, I just want to see good, entertaining basketball for a whole season.

    46. Gallonari is not very good at basketball and particularly bad at defense and plays sf. Kp’s a freakishly long pf/c and is actually better on the defensive end than offensive right now. His ceiling is transcendent player, gallonari’s ceiling was average sf. Now he’s damaged goods with a ceiling of a guy that can provide a spark now and then-he’s more suited for 6-8th man.

    47. Porzingis, Grant and Galloway could be the core.

      I absolutely agree with that, but that’s why I still think they’re better off dealing Melo, so that they can pick up players who will actually age with the core. Melo should be on a team with a different trajectory.

    48. And I seriously, honestly, no joke, really really do not mean it as a shot at Melo. He’s fine. Yes, he hasn’t played particularly well so far, but he’s obviously working his way back from an injury. It’s just that his career path is one where he is much better off playing for a team that can contend for a title in the next two years. I can easily see Zinger being the centerpiece of a contending team in a few years. But not this year and likely not the next. So why waste the end of Melo’s prime like this?

      The key to the excitement in watching this team right now is watching Zinger, Galloway and Grant develop. Zinger has taken everything that he didn’t do well in Europe and said, “Okay, guess what, that’s all I’m going to do in the U.S.!” That’s so impressive. Imagine if there was an incoming draft pick coming to the Knicks from a Melo trade, as well, to add to that core? Plus a ton of cap room for the 2017 offseason? We could easily be looking at a contending team filled with almost all young players on it in two years.

    49. Melo should be on a team with a different trajectory.

      Maybe but I think the turn around will be much quicker given the maturity of those guys game. I just have a feeling kristaps will have a major jump in his play next year similar to Giannis when he came back stronger and bigger.

      Everyone realizes that Galloway’s numbers will come down but I think his shooting will level out to be better than avg. Next year he will need to add the lob pass to his PnR game. Right now it’s attack all the way or kick out. If he can get the defense to fear the lob it will open up his finishing ability. I think he has great speed to the basket but the D knows what he will do.

      Grant will have to come back with a better stroke and hopefully his FTAs go up too to help as he works on his shot. He already seems to do a good job now and that was one of his best attributes in college in his last two year.

      I think anywhere he goes it will take a year or two anyway as he and his teammates get used to one another. I don’t know why but I just have a good feeling about the development of those guys.

    50. I watched a lot of Rik Smits at Marist as a 20 year old and Porzingis’ physique (not his skin color) reminds me of A young Smits. They are both stronger through the hips, glutes and thighs than their upper bodies would lead you to expect. As Porzingis fills out, he may mature into a Yao-like body, who simply was too strong in the lower body to be moved off the block once he turned 25. My third comp is a very young Artis Gilmore.

    51. I’ve been watching the NBA since 1990 and I’ve never seen anyone like Porzingis. No point in comp’ing him, he’s unique. If he stays healthy Smits is probably his floor right now.

      His ceiling? He won’t be a Jordan or a Shaq (whom I think is underrated, in his championship years in LA he was unstoppable on both ends.) He probably won’t be as good as LeBron, Magic or Bird, and I’ve never seen Kareem play. But other than these guys who knows.

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