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  • 156 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.06.06)”

    That looked more like Boston’s collapse vs us than Indiana’s miracle in game 1, i.e. something we totally could have done.

    And I don’t know where this idea that we don’t have better players than the Pacers comes from.

    You can make a case for Halliburton being different than Brunson but not better.

    The following are indisputable:

    Towns > Siakim
    OG > Nesmith
    Bridges > Nembhardt
    Hart > Obi

    You have to get down to TJ vs Deuce and Turner vs Mitch to find some Pacers advantages.

    But the Pacers have a system that plays to their strength and covers their weakness. We had a system that ignored our strength and exposed our weakness.

    And lastly (probably not, it’s a cappuccino morning), if we’re looking to poach another team’s coach with a massive bag of money maybe we should start with Carlisle. Small market owner might be more enticed by a large bag, and I’m not sure he isn’t the best coach since Pop.

    Towns > Siakim

    Without a doubt.

    OG > Nesmith
    Bridges > Nembhardt

    Maybe. A lot of it is reputation and it’s true that Nembhard’s BB-ref page is kind of trashy. That said, the N/N combo is without question — and against all reputational odds — a better and more stable perimeter defensive pair that WS. Nembhard gets the love on DEPM, 23rd overall. Nesmith, as SVG said over and over, basically can’t be screened. Mikal, OTOH, couldn’t manage a screen set by the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz.

    So, yeah, probably advantage Knicks — but the delta is nowhere close to common fanbase consensus.

    OG and Mikal are oversold. Any real analysis of all this and where it’s going has to start there.

    Hart > Obi

    Sure … but Obi’s a bench piece and Hart plays ca. 40 mpg. And together with Wingstop, the triumverate is woefully lacking in offensive creativity, which even Z-Man is confessing at this point. It was identified in some precincts early on as probably the biggest Achilles heel on the team, and it remains that. It’s a problem going forward — a big one.

    The Pacers have no such limitations.

    Basketball’s a five-man game, with synergies and matchups and multi-player offensive and defensive sets and all the rest. Unlike in baseball, there’s a “plug factor” included in the total output equation beyond just adding up the various BB-ref pages. It isn’t huge, certainly, but it’s big enough to matter and big enough to shift presumed outcomes.

    You know what’s ironic… Thibs should coach the Thunder. That’s a team that should be executing simple, low risk, two big basketball. Instead Daigneault changed his lineup, went 5 out, and the Pacers killed them on the boards 56-39. Thibs never would have done that.

    You know what’s ironic… Thibs should coach the Thunder.

    A-yup.

    Shifting i-Hart out of the starting lineup on the eve of the Finals when you’re the prohibitive favorite is too cute by half and then half and then half again. Pull that shit in NYC and you’d barely be able to get up for work tomorrow.

    And obviously Thibs would have wet dreams over a perimeter defense of J-Dub, Caruso, Dort, SGA, Wallace who are in fact everything certain other combinations of players on certain other teams are cracked up to be.

    Mark Daigneault last night played his 30 million dollar center 17 minutes

    Got outrebounded 56-39

    Doubled down by not having Chet on the court either and gave Ajay Williams minutes..

    It worked in the 1st half they just couldn’t score. They should have been up at least 25 in the first half with decent efficiency.

    okc has three williams jalen jaylin and kenrich but they do not have a fourth one named ajay who is actually a mitchell

    pacers hit over 46 percent from 3 as we well know there is not much that can be done about that kind of shooting spree

    Can we have Hartenstein back? Surely they must want to rid themselves of this $30M albatross backup center who only plays spot minutes in a Finals game.

    betting odds that ihart will be back in the starting lineup in game 2 over cason wallace take the L and then fix the mistake immediately rather than doubling down on it

    On one hand, the Pacers hanging tough in the finals is a bullish indicator for the Knicks.

    On the other, my happiness has an inverse relationship with Tyrese Haliburton’s for the foreseeable future.

    Seriously. If the Pacers win this it will ruin my summer. Hubert though will be crushing it at the Surf Lodge.

    I’m in a similar boat, Noble. Anything that suggests the Thunder aren’t just going to steamroll the rest of the league for the foreseeable future is promising for the Knicks. But I hate Haliburton so damn much, and I want to see him humiliated. Instead, he just keeps getting away with it.

    Whatever the case for it may have been from an Xs and Os perspective, I was utterly shocked Daigneault changed the starting lineup a few hours before tip (I’m sure the players knew before then, but still).

    I understand the intellectual case for it–Wallace/Caruso strike me as more crucial players to combat Indiana’s specific strengths than iHart–but there’s, you know, the human element! You’ve dominated the NBA with a particular set of starters, and now you’re preemptively making adjustments against, on paper, a vastly inferior team?

    I’m probably reading too much into it and of course it’s always possible it was the right decision, outcome be damned. A historically good team making pre-game 1 adjustments is just an interesting look.

    Whatever the case for it may have been from an Xs and Os perspective, I was utterly shocked Daigneault changed the starting lineup a few hours before tip (I’m sure the players knew before then, but still).

    I thought that was a mistake.

    I think you have to go with what got you there until they demonstrate they can take advantage of whatever it is you are afraid of.

    Haliburton obviously made a deal with the devil. He can’t keep making improbable shots, can he?

    I still think this will just be a blip for OKC, but now instead of 5 games they’ll win it in 6.

    Hubert though will be crushing it at the Surf Lodge.

    Ha! I stopped going when they swapped out live bands for deejays. It’s another generation’s turn.

    (And it’s your loss, Gen Z. I saw Gary Clark Jr, Alison Mosshart, Lauryn Hill, Patti Smith, Willie Nelson… and you guys pay 10x as much to get some random dudes with a turntable. Get off my lawn!)

    Chet had a bad game so whatever, but Hartenstein was effective in his minutes. He’s a good player! Way too cutesy from Daigneault.

    At the risk of this sounding like a hot take, it did seem like OKC shrunk from the moment. So many missed bunnies, and at the end of the game against the small lineup, Indiana was getting nothing but open looks against that vaunted defense.

    Not getting the yips, keeping their heads down, and executing their game plan no matter the score, that’s Indiana’s secret sauce.

    until indy wins again which is when you will have to change it to okc in seven

    good to see obi, despite some on court basketball shortcomings, ball out in the nba finals…

    the indiana pacers appear to be scripting their own narrative this post season…

    Every time Indiana pulls a win out of their ass because the other team shrinks in the 4th, I have to laugh. It’s not luck — it’s just capitalizing when the other side tightens up. The thing is, we can do the same exact thing, and do it better. We’ve got more talent, more depth — we just need a coach who actually leans into our strengths instead of trying to make us something we’re not. Play to what we’re good at, keep the pressure on, and let them crack.

    I gotta say it’s very entertaining when Haliburton isn’t doing it to your team.

    OKC did choke away Game 1 against Denver in a similar fashion, leading the whole game and losing to a buzzer beater from Aaron Gordon off of no timeout called. Maybe they can bounce back again? We’ll see. They fucked up big time letting Indiana hang around.

    Thibs coaching OKC is an interesting proposition. Would OKC still be a turnover generating machine with his more conservative perimeter defensive strategy? Would they be an even better defense if they stayed at home more? Or do they have enough plus defenders that Thibs would be comfortable letting them chase steals as they do?

    I know their offense would fit him like a glove, as is.

    Also, really cool that we’ve got a small group of Hot Hand Theory listeners here. Crazy that their Thibs video ended on XJ saying “If New York wants to win a title in the Brunson era, that change has to happen NOW” and Thibs got fired a few hours after it dropped.

    Indiana has clearly ritually sacrificed Jim Irsay, and possibly Anthony Richardson’s shoulder, to get here.

    Crazy that their Thibs video ended on XJ saying

    Even crazier that it began with them rolling the Jeff Teague tape.

    There’s a joke/meme in the musician world called the Blues Lawyer. The Blues Lawyer is a rich middle aged rich guy who is an amateur musician, and collects vintage guitars and boutique amps and rare pedals and generally makes the prices of these scarce items out of reach for actual working musicians. Jim Irsay was a classic blues lawyer. Our very own Guitar Jimmy is perhaps the most notorious.

    Irsay came to one of our shows in Indianapolis (one of the fart smell shows) and we had an audience with him backstage. He brought several boxes of Indianapolis Colts swag with him, like Peyton Manning game jerseys and shit. “Uhhh thanks man!” We just left them in the dressing room. The employees of the Egyptian Theater must have been psyched to have found those.

    Siakam is a better player than he’s given credit for here. He’s very very good.

    i would have been thrilled to get a peyton manning game jersey even though i am not at all a colts fan i very much like and respect the player

    siakam has always been an above average player but he is especially blossoming during this playoff run

    (And it’s your loss, Gen Z. I saw Gary Clark Jr, Alison Mosshart, Lauryn Hill, Patti Smith, Willie Nelson… and you guys pay 10x as much to get some random dudes with a turntable. Get off my lawn!)

    It runs even deeper — Millennial and Z are paying two and three times more (*) to see X’s bands now than X paid to see those very same bands in their prime.

    (Source: Direct observation, e.g., the Jesus and Mary Chain/Psych Furs concert at Dolan’s Beacon Theater last October.) (**)

    (*) Adjusted for inflation.

    (**) Pay no heed for these purposes to the fact that by definition I too paid those prices.

    I hate Haliburton so damn much, and I want to see him humiliated.

    That hate is poisoning you, not him. Let it go and catch the fever!

    It’s almost like the Pacers were so used to playing against our bum ass defense that they were completely flummoxed by an actual defense in the first half of that game.

    In the second half they mostly figured it out, and adjusted accordingly.

    Pacers in 6.

    Low-key accurate criticism of Thibs is that by the end, he wasn’t even coaching defense very well.

    From Stein:

    The New York Knicks are expected to formally request permission to speak to the Dallas Mavericks’ Jason Kidd about their coaching vacancy in coming days, league sources say.

    As The Stein Line first reported Tuesday night, New York has interest in hiring Kidd after firing Tom Thibodeau earlier this week. That interest has since been described by league sources as serious.

    A precise hierarchy of potential Knicks targets to replace Thibodeau has yet to emerge, but some in league coaching circles believe that Kidd — who gave Knicks star guard Jalen Brunson his first role of prominence in the NBA during their one season together in Dallas in 2021-22 — is at the top of New York’s wish list.

    Also unclear: How Dallas would ultimately respond to the Knicks’ phone call. The Mavericks could certainly swat away the Knicks’ request for permission, but attempts this week by The Stein Line to outright confirm such a posture have been unsuccessful.

    I hope the Mavs tell us to fuck off.

    God, if we fired Thibs to bring in JASON KIDD? Total monkey’s paw situation.

    God, no. I’ve made so much progress working through my Knicks PTSD, I don’t need this.

    I don’t want to be too harsh on Kidd because I think he’s probably a lot better than he was earlier in his coaching career. He also got a very good defensive effort out of the Mavs last year even with Doncic on the floor. Brunson knows him and would have to sign off on it. But I was expecting something else. Mavs fans are not exactly going to be too upset if Kidd leaves.

    I have to say if it’s Jason Kidd and if Rick Brunson is still the top assistant, I will be jumping to conclusions.

    There are signs that Thibs may have been holding back a potential clown show here, and hiring Kidd would seem to affirm them.

    And Donte barking “this is what happens when they let you run the show” in the preseason is turning out to be quite the spoiler.

    God, it feels like some galaxy brained shit designed to convince Giannis to insist on being traded here and only here.

    Kidd is a garbage human being, and he brings maximum drama everywhere he goes, and there’s no evidence he’s a good x’s and o’s coach. Whatever problems I had with Thibs, he kept a tight lid on everything, and he didn’t do anything other than coach. Kidd sucks as a person and sucks as a tactician. If we bring him in and Giannis isn’t a part of it, Dolan might as well get rid of Leon and bring back Steve fucking Mills.

    Leon Rose signing Jalen Brunson is like the blind squirrel finding the nut.

    Yeah not very excited about the Kidd rumors for many reasons. Plus isn’t he the guy who literally screwed us over by “retiring” and then immediately grabbing the Nets coaching job?

    Actually now that I think about it Jason Kidd makes perfect sense as a dumb thing Leon Rose would do. Jason Kidd is famous. Leon has heard of Jason Kidd.

    Yup and guarantee you it means Rick Brunson is going nowhere.

    I have a new theory.

    World Wide Wes is the main guy making the personnel decisions and Brock Aller is the guy making all the numbers work. Leon is the kind of leader that tries to put the smartest people around him he can get, listens to what they have to say, uses his connections to grease the wheels and then takes the final decision to Dolan.

    If my theory is correct, the suspect trades and personnel moves are all World Wide Wes and not Leon. I think WWW is the main basketball guy here.

    The potential upside in getting Kidd is that we are dealing with Nico Harrison. Kidd+ Cooper and filler for Mitch because defense wins championships. And Silver gets what he needs/mandated.

    And we have the flexibility to fire Kidd immediately after the trade.

    Leon Rose signing Jalen Brunson is like the blind squirrel finding the nut.

    JB was in Leon’s family and that’s why he wanted him.

    To his (Leon’s) credit, he does get the credit (at least from me) of conceptualizing that he could build a good basketball team from his family if he could reel them all in (JB, KAT, OG). Mikal’s a degree of separation via Nova. This was without question part of his pitch to Dolan from the beginning.

    But that sequence has now run its course and he’s running up against FOs who cast a far wider net within the personnel world.

    In terms of Rick Brunson, I gotta confess — I barely even thought of him and to the degree I did, I just assumed he was here as a mid-assistant who stayed in his lane and didn’t throw any weight around. The revelations of the past few days have been stunning in that regard. I don’t remember a single KB discussion about where he stood in the pecking order and what he was about. (The DDV stuff in preseason got all caught up in lip-reading the tape and didn’t really go much beyond that, and it just seemed like DDV understandably was just competitive and pissed that he got traded.)

    World Wide Wes is the main guy making the personnel decisions and Brock Aller is the guy making all the numbers work.

    Leon has said explicitly that WWW is his primary basketball advisor and actually seems kind of proud of it.

    Big huge massive inherent red flag.

    Jason Kidd brings so much unprofessional bullshit along with him. He has had drama swirl around him for his entire career. If he’s the coach then we can all go back into “classic Knickerblogger” mode and rip the team nonstop while they head back to the lottery in the years where they owe all their picks to the Nets.

    I give it a one year window before the whole thing goes to shit. Kidd is a cancer.

    Hard no on Kidd. If we’re gonna pay assets for another team’s coach it better be Spo or maybe Udoka.

    Kidd’s gonna be angling for Leon’s job within six months. He’s going to get eaten alive by Dolan’s structure and culture and wants.

    To his (Leon’s) credit, he does get the credit (at least from me) of conceptualizing that he could build a good basketball team from his family if he could reel them all in (JB, KAT, OG).

    Do we know he conceptualized that? Maybe he was just gonna reel them in regardless and they happened to be a good basketball team.

    @GeryWoelfel
    Could there be a Giannis Antetokounmpo-Jason Kidd reunion in New York?
    There’s a report the Knicks are asking Dallas officials permission to speak to Kidd about their vacant head coaching position.
    Yesterday I was told the Knicks are preparing to make a tsunami-type offer to acquire Antetokounmpo from the Bucks.
    Kidd once coached Antetokounmpo in Milwaukee.

    What exactly is a “tusnami-type offer”?

    Leon Rose signing Jalen Brunson is like the blind squirrel finding the nut.

    It really was. He never changed the organization here. We just turned over 60% the starting lineup and the coach of the best team we ever had in 12 months of panic moves and impulse trades.

    When folks talk about how great a job Leon’s done here I’m reminded of the 2016 Republican primaries when Gov Kasich was going on and on about all the dramatic change he brought Ohio and Trump finally shut him up by saying “he got fracking, ok? That’s what happened.”

    Leon sucks. Brunson’s his fracking.

    Could there be a Giannis Antetokounmpo-Jason Kidd reunion in New York?

    Look — a squirrel!!

    Yesterday I was told the Knicks are preparing to make a tsunami-type offer to acquire Antetokounmpo from the Bucks.

    Since it ain’t gonna be a tsunami of picks, I assume it’s every good player on our roster?

    “What exactly is a “tusnami-type offer”?”

    OG and Bridges for Giannis (fill in the blanks to make it work)????

    Towns
    Giannis
    Hart
    Deuce?
    Brunson

    OG and Bridges for Giannis

    That’s barely high-tide, much less a tsunami.

    What exactly is a “tusnami-type offer”?

    Per google AI it is an offer that is generated by a sudden, large displacement of ocean water.

    Towns would have to be in any deal for the Bucks, but they want Kidd because he’s cool with the inner circle . Giannis stuff is for clicks.

    Any offer for Giannis would have to include KAT or Brunson. I can’t imagine Milwaukee saying yes to any combo not including one of them.

    That’s barely high-tide, much less a tsunami.

    You undervalue both players relative their true value and the market may value them even higher than that.

    That’s barely high-tide, much less a tsunami.

    Fwiw, the POBO of the Bucks is a New Yorker who once interned with the knicks. Blood in the ground?

    You undervalue both players relative their true value and the market values them even higher than that.

    Milwaukee, unless they’ve gone insane, is not trading Giannis Atentokoumpo in exchange for the privilege of paying OG Anunoby and Mikal Bridges $90M a year through 2029.

    Any offer for Giannis would have to include KAT or Brunson. I can’t imagine Milwaukee saying yes to any combo not including one of them.

    Part of me would rather include KAT than OG, but I think you need a stretch 5 with Giannis.

    This all hinges of course on Giannis stating he only wants to be traded to the Knicks.

    If not, it would be malpractice for the Bucks to trade Giannis and get no picks back.

    You undervalue both players relative their true value and the market may value them even higher than that.

    This doesn’t really make the Bucks better, neither has 1st option ability and the team gets no picks.. play in team at best.

    We’re not getting Giannis.

    But if we did the guys to give up are the ones I proposed last week: Brunson & Hart.

    If you get Giannis, he’s your man, not Brunson. And you want Giannis with a stretch 5 like Towns and two-way wings who can shoot like Bridges & OG.

    A primary ballhandler is the easiest position to fill in basketball. We just saw Tyus Jones sign for rhe minimum.

    But we’re not getting Giannis.

    We probably will get Kidd, though.

    They would want Brunson with Bridges included before they ask for Hart. The Bucks are the team in control here..

    This doesn’t really make the Bucks better, neither has 1st option ability and the team gets no picks.. play in team at best.

    The Bucks suck and have no easy way out with Lillard untradeable.

    If they (or better yet Giannis) has even a half a brain they are going to move Giannis at max value and rebuild.

    The only question is whether they want to completely tank and rebuild over 5+ years via draft, a young prospect and filler or do they want to jump start it and bring in some good players that will be around for awhile. Obviously other teams can offer piles of picks, but they may not want to go that route.

    There’s no indication whatsoever in any way shape or form that Giannis will say “I’m only playing for NYK.” It would be off-brand in every dimension if he said that.

    There’s even less indication that “luring” Jason Kidd to the team as the coach will lead Giannis to do that.

    This is vintage Knicks deflection from a shitshow of their own making.(*) We have seen this multiple times, probably more than can be counted.

    Now, will they make a big offer to Milwaukee? Absolutely possible. But none of the response from any party, including GA, would be predicated on moving out Thibs for Jason Kidd.

    (*) “Yeah, we fired Thibs for Jason Kidd — but that makes us have a better chance to get Giannis!!!!” This template and clickbait has been thrown out there hundreds of times over the past 25 years.

    The Bucks are the team in control here..

    It’s my porn and I’m the dom, ok?

    I probably wouldn’t do any Giannis trade that ends up with us having to play Giannis and Hart together.

    The Bucks suck and have no easy way out with Lillard untradeable.

    If they have even a half a brain they are going to trade Giannis.

    The only question is whether they want to completely tank and rebuild over 5 years via draft or do they want to jump start it and bring in some good players that will be around for awhile. Obviously other teams can offer piles of picks, but they may not want to go that route.

    Yeah they are in bleak situation , a team like the Spurs can offer pick 2,14, Vassell, Sochan which would beat Bridges/OG.

    What if the Magic put Franz Wagner, Suggs on the table

    Knicks would have to offer Brunson or Towns plus Bridges or OG

    But if we did the guys to give up are the ones I proposed last week: Brunson & Hart.

    Brunson is virtually untradeable.

    I’m not saying in a purely basketball world he’s off limits. I’m saying in the real world it would provoke a reaction one notch below trading Luka.

    If they still had the ones, KAT plus two or three ones would be the leader in the clubhouse to get Giannis.

    But they of course don’t.

    Because Leon has impressed Dolan by his savvy in “going all-in at the right time.”

    Towns and OG for Giannis and Lillard.

    Brunson
    McBride
    Bridges
    Giannis
    Mitch

    Hart
    Hukporti
    Shamet
    Payne
    Other rookies and vet min dreck

    Then in 2026-2027 you get Dame back.

    Milwaukee gets Dame’s contract off the books and gets two starters for Giannis.

    Towns and OG for Giannis and Lillard.

    Works in the trade machine!!

    Brunson is virtually untradeable.

    I’m not saying in a purely basketball world he’s off limits. I’m saying in the real world it would provoke a reaction one notch below trading Luka.

    If instead of a worse player who was even more injury-prone Doncic was traded for a better and more durable player like say, Jokic, it’d have gone over a lot better

    My trade makes the Knicks a kickass defensive team with a bench that is not all that dissimilar from last year’s bench. Then you have the wild card of Dame returning for one last hurrah in his option year as a scorer off the bench.

    We’d need Mitch to stay somewhat healthy in this scenario, or for Huk to be playable, but… I dunno, I kind of like it

    Works in the trade machine!!

    No it doesn’t it’s off buy like $12m.

    Pretty much no trade works in the trade machine. This apron shit sucks.

    Pags, is there a different trade machine you’re using than the ESPN one? I know that one uses this year’s salaries.

    Why would the Bucks want a Dame/Brunson backcourt?

    Do porn directors ever ask “why would a woman want ______”?

    (Side note: I feel like I’m the only one who knows we’re fantasizing here. We’re not getting Giannis. I’m just saying in a fantasy, I’d rather have a team built around him than Brunson.)

    Actually never mind, I figured it out.

    KAT and OG for Giannis and Kuzma works. So does KAT and OG for Giannis, Portis, and Connaughton.

    Re: Jason Kidd Knicks New Coach

    After years spent fighting to overcome Knicks PTSD, I’m trying to keep a zen attitude but my left eyelid is starting to shake, not a good sign…

    Save us Nico!

    P.S. Macri just wrote he’s okay with Kidd, that’s why I unsubscribed years ago 😀

    so obviously portis and connaughton over kuzma that it does not even warrant a conversation portis by himself over kuzma would not even be a conversation wish we had not given that guy up in the first place crazy eyes and all they make it so he can see the basket better when he fires away from 3

    One report and everyone loses their shit.

    I’d love to have Giannis, though.

    Kuzma sucked for them last year and has two years left at $21M AAV. Connaughton was not so hot for them either and will be turning 33. Portis would seem to be made redundant with them acquiring KAT.

    Kuzma sucked for them last year and has two years left at $21M AAV. Connaughton was not so hot for them either and will be turning 33.

    Presumably, taking on some of their bad contracts would be part of the price of any Gianni’s trade, especially since we don’t have draft picks to trade them. Though this is all academic because we’re not trading for Giannis.

    Okay, so what if you took on ALL of their bad contracts, except Dame?

    Giannis, Kuzma, Portis, Connaughton for KAT, OG, Bridges

    Lineup:
    Brunson
    McBride
    Kuzma (?)
    Giannis
    Mitch

    Hart, Portis, Connaughton, Kolek, Hukporti, vet min dreck a la Shamet/Precious/Payne as bench

    Ehh maybe a Bridge(s) too far

    Before you make the tsunami offer, you gotta remember that it won’t put you over the Pacers. John Haliburton is in Giannis’ head and isn’t leaving anytime soon.

    it would make me cackle if the Thunder fired Mark D. to bring in a 67-year-old head coach who’s had several talented rosters that never made the Finals

    but also let’s all talk about how Shai and Chet missed gimmes in crunchtime and relegated Dort’s all-time play on Nesmith to a footnote in an epic L

    I’d love Udoka. Don’t care that he fucked co-worker and cheated on one of my great 1990s crushes in Nia Long. Dude can coach. Sadly, the Rockets are reportedy nixing that possibility.

    Quite a montage and solid Nate Silver quote.

    You guys fought X (and of course, boom) on the clutch thing to the ends of the earth, too, lol.

    But in fairness, my first real read of any kind of rigor on it was in the Bill James Baseball Abstracts and he noted, correctly, in a long essay about the concept that “racists will say blacks can’t hit in the clutch,” which has stuck with me to this day, was a true statement (*), and I’ve always thought that was part and parcel about why Millennial rejected the idea so vociferously (**) — which would be to M’s ultimate credit.

    (*) James’s, not the racists’.

    (**) And of course, it’s very hard to “prove” with statistical inference, and Millennial loves his data, which is fine as good as it goes — but you only need the tools of inference when the thing at issue can’t be seen directly. We know humans get nervous, we know humans vary in response and performance with respect to their reaction to nerves, we know various situations in sports are more likely to be fraught with nerves than others , we know athletes are humans … I mean, at that point it’s pretty much QED.

    john haliburton does not seem to me to be in giannis head if anything he seems fortunate that giannis did not crush him between his thumb and index fingers

    Anyways, I was rewatching Season 1 of Mad Men and was reminded why it might be the greatest first season of any TV show ever. It lays the groundwork for a sustained, subtle critique of Ayn Rand’s philosophy, embedded especially in Don Draper’s character arc. At the heart of that critique is a dismantling of the idea of transcendental individualism — the notion, central to Rand’s work, that the highest human ideal is the radically self-reliant, visionary individual.

    On the surface, Don appears to be a Randian hero — a modern-day Howard Roark or John Galt: self-made, hyper-competent, rising through merit and guided by a personal vision. He’s a creator, a builder, and a capitalist success story.

    But Mad Men quickly peels back that image to reveal profound contradiction. Unlike Rand’s protagonists, Don lacks any coherent internal philosophy. His decisions aren’t driven by principled self-interest or rational clarity, but by insecurity, shame, and a desperate need for emotional connection. He doesn’t transcend the crowd; he performs for it, constantly seeking approval while isolating himself.

    Even his profession reinforces that point. Where Rand glorified the entrepreneur as a truth-teller — a producer of real value — Don is in the business of illusion. Advertising, as the show presents it, isn’t about truth or substance; it’s about emotional manipulation, packaging desire, and selling fantasy. Don’s genius lies not in building or creating, but in concealing — making a cigarette or a carousel feel like something more than what it is.

    Even his very identity is part of the illusion. Don Draper doesn’t really exist — he’s a persona, an alter ego crafted to sell himself to his peers, his family, and to the world as the ideal 1950s American success story. His real name is Dick Whitman, and he stole another man’s identity to escape his past. This makes him, quite literally, a manufactured product — a brand. And when the truth comes out by the end of the first season, it doesn’t even matter. Pete Campbell exposes Don’s secret, and no one cares. Why? Because Don plays the part well enough. Appearances are reality.

    It’s a devastatingly anti-Randian twist: the truth is irrelevant as long as the performance is convincing. entire philosophical framework (Objectivism) is built on the primacy of objective reality and reason. For Rand, truth matters above all — not just in science or logic, but in ethics, identity, and work. Her heroes refuse to lie, fake, or conform. They reject appearances in favor of what is true, earned, and rationally justified. A person’s performance — if not rooted in truth and integrity — is worthless in her worldview.

    So in Mad Men, when Don Draper is revealed to be a fraud — and yet the world keeps turning, the clients stay, and no one truly cares it’s a sharp rejection of her belief that truth, rationality, and moral integrity ultimately prevail in in capitalist and media-driven culture she championed.

    In that sense, Mad Men doesn’t just suggest Don fails to live up to Rand’s ideal — it argues that the ideal itself is hollow. Don’s life dramatizes the existential toll of aspiring to a vision of individualism that denies emotional complexity, vulnerability, and the need for connection. The show doesn’t simply critique Rand’s heroes — it shows us why no real person could ever be one.

    Quite a montage and solid Nate Silver quote.

    Finally I feel vindicated 😉

    Mariano was probably the best argument for clutch being real and he also blew a league championship and a world series which should highlight the futility of the whole discussion

    Mariano was probably the best argument for clutch being real and he also blew a league championship and a world series which should highlight the futility of the whole discussion

    As a hater Mets fan, I don’t even blame him for that World Series loss against the D-Backs. That was a broken-bat blooper — pure bad luck, not a failure of skill or composure. It shows that sometimes, even the best can fall victim to random chance.

    I mean the most clutch athlete of all time is not gonna have a .000 batting average allowed or a 1.000 shooting percentage. Even David Eckstein made outs sometimes.

    In baseball the nature of what a given player is trying to do doesn’t change much in high leverage situations, so any variation in those situations that sustains over a large sample size will be largely due to mental factors among a subset of people who have already demonstrated the ability to perform under pressure necessary to make the MLB. In other words, they may well exist, technically, but they’ll be almost undetectable over a large enough sample size. This is pretty much how the empirics play out.

    I view basketball as a different animal. In end-of-game scenarios you’re dealing with defenses at a higher level of intensity, differences in how the game is officiated, and depending on the score, differences in what you’re trying to accomplish as an offensive player (e.g. if you’re down 1 on the last possession, xPPS goes out the window–a 45% 2PA beats a 35% 3PA). Certain skillsets come at a premium in these scenarios, such that “clutch” being a detectable phenomenon that can replicate at scale makes a lot of sense. Players who may well be excellent in general become borderline useless (if, say, they have no ability to score in isolation) and mediocre players with skillsets these scenarios accentuate become more valuable.

    There are other things that factor into the difference too. In baseball you’re rarely dealing with any kind of conditioning component, whereas in basketball these scenarios arise when pretty much everyone is physically and mentally drained.

    So I’ve always believed “clutch” is some level of real in basketball. Still not sold on it in baseball, which is the sport that truly ignited the debate.

    I am prepared to believe Tyrese is a great offensive player and far superior to his teammates.

    Still don’t believe in clutch. But he is having that kind of run…

    As many here have said..I don’t really know how good of a coach Kidd is because he looked like a genius with a healthy Kyrie and Luka. But not so much after Luka. Granted- the talent was way less once Kyrie got hurt, but a good coach still puts pressure on the opponent, y’know? Not sure if I saw that after Kyrie went down. That said, if Kidd leads to Giannis without giving the deed to the house after giving up the farm for Bridges and Towns, I’m fine with Kidd. If he can’t coach a team with presumably Giannis, Brunson, and Anunoby as the 3 best players to some success, NYK should be his last HC job.

    The other day I mentioned a pipe dream of Johnnie Bryant and Chris Quinn as HC and associate HC. Now I wonder, should Bryant be the guy, if he would consider having Rondo as an assistant. Say what you want about Rondo, but he’s young, wants to coach, and his hoops IQ is through the roof. He’s been making himself more comfortable having actual conversations rather than being the extremely curt guy he was as a player. Maybe he’s worked on his communication in his journey to become a coach? Point is- we need the balance of basketball minds to yes men on the sidelines to lean a little more towards basketball minds after moving on from Thibs

    relegated Dort’s all-time play on Nesmith to a footnote in an epic L

    Along with Deuce’s epic block in game 1 😢

    By the way, my favorite part of this entire Trump-Musk split is Elon’s so-called “revelation” that Trump was in the Epstein files — as if that wasn’t public knowledge years ago. The real takeaway is the unspoken insinuation that Elon was perfectly fine with this information all along, funneling millions to fund Trump’s presidential campaign, as long as the deal included slashing social welfare programs. It wasn’t until Trump canceled a government contract and called him “Ozempic fat” that Elon suddenly grew morals. It’s a telling reminder of how political alliances often overlook scandalous truths when they serve a broader agenda.

    i heard that politics is the only topic that is forbidden here you may not have seen that if you have not been around long but i have seen other people try to talk politics and then be swiftly rebuffed

    Kuzma sucked for them last year and has two years left at $21M AAV. Connaughton was not so hot for them either and will be turning 33.

    Presumably, taking on some of their bad contracts would be part of the price of any Gianni’s trade, especially since we don’t have draft picks to trade them. Though this is all academic because we’re not trading for Gianni

    Jason Kidd has a domestic violence incident in his past along with crashing his car into a telephone pole while drunk driving, and has been in countless palace intrigue and backstabbing kind of situations throughout his playing and coaching career. There have also been on court incidents which have called his character into question.

    If he’s hired it’ll end badly. He’s not even known as some sort of genius X’s and O’s coach either. You really have to wonder exactly what the fuck they are thinking considering this to begin with.

    i have no idea why it posted again two hours and 44 minutes later complete with gianni’s both times i think what they are thinking about kidd can only be the jalen brunson and rick brunson angle unless they actually have a bead on getting giannis because of it too i guess getting giannis might be worth having to deal with kidd as someone said we could always fire him anyway unless that would not work for giannis or jalen the players really do run the show in the nba i am not saying it is good or bad or giving any kind of opinion on it at all but it does at least seem to be factual

    (And it’s your loss, Gen Z. I saw Gary Clark Jr, Alison Mosshart, Lauryn Hill, Patti Smith, Willie Nelson… and you guys pay 10x as much to get some random dudes with a turntable. Get off my lawn!)

    It runs even deeper — Millennial and Z are paying two and three times more (*) to see X’s bands now than X paid to see those very same bands in their prime.

    (Source: Direct observation, e.g., the Jesus and Mary Chain/Psych Furs concert at Dolan’s Beacon Theater last October.) (**)

    BTW if you like Punk, check out Dead Pioneers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSk5AJQCNzM

    Also if you haven’t heard of the Fontaines D.C., you probably should. Here’s their most recent poppy song, although it’s not their best.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a_vpigwDb4&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

    there have been moments where i feel bad for jalen for taking such a massive discount for what might quickly be devolving into a shitshow again and then there are other moments where i do not feel bad for him because more of it may be of his own making than we know

    My favorite rock band of recent years is Liquid Mike.

    They’re from the upper peninsula in Michigan, total noweheresville. The lead singer and main songwriter is a mail carrier. They remind me a bit of bands like the Hold Steady and Guided By Voices. Sometimes they’re a little bit reminiscent of Sugar to me. Big, hooky, anthemic, kickass guitar rock.

    They’re mostly unknown although they did get a shoutout in Rolling Stone when their last (excellent) record came out. New single “Groucho Marx” slays as per usual.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38mVkkAWGWk

    Just heard this on Ryen Russillo’s podcast. Too lazy to fact check it.

    In the last 15 seconds of regulation in the NBA playoffs, shooters are 4-27 from the field. Tyrese Haliburton, however, is 5-5.

    Guys, i’m still here, it’s just that i’m with less time to follow the blog lately, but i’m trying to read it all. 😉
    Sometimes i think “to this i think i’d answer with…” and then some comments after, someone gives that answer or probably a much better version of it. 😉

    I’m sad to see Thibs go, i like him and he deserves a huge thank you for the outstanding work in bringing this team back to respectability. And leaving the team as one of the 4 best teams in the league, from where he started? It’s truly amazing.

    At the same time, i think something had to give, either Thibs would be let go, or we needed to change the roster significantly, meaning undo the roster changes from last summer. I think Leon doesn’t have a problem undoing things he agrees he did wrong, but i also think he believes in this team. So i understand the move, maybe with a more modern offense this team can get to another level. Like several others here, i have a hard time believing a team with Brunson and KAT can be a championship contender, because they’re not bad at defense, they are a disaster. And you can hide 1 very bad defender, especially if he is a guard, but you can’t hide 2 very bad defenders and it’s hard to hide a C that is very bad at defense.

    Or maybe the KAT move was only a stepping stone to get a better player, say Giannis. If that’s the case, i agree that sending KAT the other way is more amenable to the other team fanbase than sending Julius.

    Well, either way, be it with the same team, or with a much improved team, i’m going with Ephus’ motto – this is a great time to be a Knicks fan, let’s enjoy the ride! 🧡💙

    I’m just kind of surprised even with Dolan as our owner that he would consider Kidd bc Kidd kind of screwed over the Knicks when he was here.

    I’m just kind of surprised even with Dolan as our owner that he would consider Kidd bc Kidd kind of screwed over the Knicks when he was here.

    Has to be part of a play for Giannis.

    Kay went on an absurd rant Thursday on his ESPN New York radio show, with angry Mets fans — whom he labeled “ill-informed nitwits” — being his primary targets.

    “Mets fans cannot enjoy any kind of success,” Kay said. “They always have to have a grievance. They always have to have something to complain about. And they’re so thirsty when it comes to being right and proving somebody who said something about their team wrong. So then, they misappropriate what people do say to fit their silly little childish narrative.”

    ….

    “The little gnats that for some reason I live rent free in their mind,” Kay said of the Mets fans who called him out. “The prevailing narrative, which to me is laughable, ‘Kay just made that up because his radio show failed. That’s why they took him off the radio show and he needs to get clicks.’ Well, you simpletons, that’s not the case at all. My radio show didn’t fail, it was a rousing success.”

    First Imagine Gary Cohen was a dick head like this? That would be a strange thing. Now Imagine the biggest diva in an organization was your play by play guy. That would be a bummer. I am sorry Yankees fans.

    And leaving the team as one of the 4 best teams in the league, from where he started? It’s truly amazing.

    But we aren’t one of the 4 best teams in the league. We were 9th in SRS and if we played in the west we’d be lucky to have earned a 2nd round exit.

    No one wins a championship because they were a top 4 SRS in the regular season. And we didn’t play in the West so that hypothetical doesn’t mean a goddamned thing.

    No one wins a championship because they were a top 4 SRS in the regular season. And we didn’t play in the West so that hypothetical doesn’t mean a goddamned thing.

    A lot more teams that were top 4 SRS win a championship than teams that weren’t top 4.

    26 teams were sitting on their couches at home watching the playoffs while the Knicks were still playing. That matters more than SRS.

    We won third most playoff games of any team in the NBA.

    A lot more teams that were top 4 SRS win a championship than teams that weren’t top 4.

    That doesn’t actually address my point, does it? If it did, then we wouldn’t have a playoffs and just graduate the top 4 SRS teams to the Conference Finals…

    And your take on the West doesn’t hold up. Are you seriously suggesting that Minnesota or OKC faced a tougher road to the Conference Finals than we did by beating Boston? Amazing how fast revisionist history kicks in.

    What was the Pacers’ SRS?

    Pretty sure it was a lot better than ours for all of 2025

    I’m really worried about the team now. The whole situation reminds me of a John Hollinger article where he discussed how the best attribute successful front offices have is patience. Even though patience is free, too many teams get impatient, shoot for the moon and crash big time. By either luck or design Rose has been pretty patient overall, but all the reporting suggests that patience is gone. Maybe we did need to fire Thibs, but then just get a good young up and coming coach to replace him and give him time to get good. We have good players who want to win. If the coach doesn’t get in their way we’re still going to good.

    I also think the narrative that the West is better than the East is hurting us. People assume the Pacers success is just a fluke and they are not really that great a team. But the West was better than the East because of teams seven through ten in each conference, not because of the teams in the second round of the playoffs and beyond. The top teams were much more even. In fact, two of the three best regular season teams were in the East. Cleveland won out in the East because they are very good. There was no reason to expect a cakewalk for OKC. And this also means the Knicks aren’t so bad they need a lot of fixing. But impatience is powerful. As I said, I’m worried.

    As for selecting a coach, there have to be excellent assistant coaches who would jump at the job. Why pay compensation to get a coach from some other team? We don’t have that many assets to throw them around for nothing.

    In the last 15 seconds of regulation in the NBA playoffs, shooters are 4-27 from the field. Tyrese Haliburton, however, is 5-5.

    The thing about Haliburton’s “clutchness” is that the Pacers would probably still be in the finals even if he went 0-5. Two were in an elimination game 5, one was in a game 2 in a series they had already poached home court in, one was in game 1 of a series they proceeded to put away early. The Hali shots just made it all go faster.

    Why is everybody going crazy about Kidd? Until there’s some confirmation that the Knicks have interest in him, this is just a rumor, and the media making things up about the Knicks because that brings a lot of viewers to them would be a first, right? 😀

    The Sacramento Kings are beefing up their coaching staff. Mike Woodson is now associate head coach, reporting to head coach Doug Christie, and Mike Miller, our one time interim head coach, is now a King’s assistant coach. They also added an assistant coach who had been the head coach of Cleveland’s G league team. Scott Perry clearly values a deep and quality coaching staff. I’m not sure Knick’s management values that enough.

    Pretty sure it was a lot better than ours for all of 2025

    Thanks for that expert opinion

    Why is everybody going crazy about Kidd?

    Marc Stein reported the Knicks were interested in Kidd first, before Begley reported later in the day that the Knicks were interested in Udoka, Kidd, and Chris Finch.

    I know it’s the middle of the night gor most of you, but maybe you’ll read this in the morning. I looked at the sports news and, even though I am definitely not a Pacers fan, I think they’re getting a raw deal in the press. Look at the Athletic headline: “Tyrese Haliburton clutch shot sinks Thunder as Pacers steal NBA Finals Game 1”. The use of “steal” souls imply that something illegitimate happed, like a phantom foul or something. But nothing of the sort happened. The Pacers just won a close game. They also call the victory improbable in the text. I think this language reflects the writers judgement that OKC was a much better team that deserved to win (and, by extension, the East is such a lousy conference and its champion doesn’t deserve to win. For the honor of the Eastern conference I hope the Pacers prove that attitude wrong.

    Playoffs:

    Thunder: 12-5
    Pacers: 13-4

    Pacers’ strength of relative schedule has been much harder, too.

    So, in a nutshell, KFNINJ gets us!

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