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Knicks Morning News (2024.08.22)


  • NBA predictions 2024-25: Win-loss records for Celtics, Knicks and every East team – ESPN
    [ESPN] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:00:00 GMT
    1. NBA predictions 2024-25: Win-loss records for Celtics, Knicks and every East team
    2. ESPN predicts 2 Pacers to finish as top award candidates for 2024-25 season
    3. And-Ones: 2024/25 Awards, Gaston, Underrated Offseason Moves, Thomas
    4. 1 Reason Not To Overlook Every NBA Team for 2024-25 Season
    5. Win-Loss Predictions for Every NBA Team Following Complete 2024-25 Schedule Release


  • Knicks’ rotation projections, No. 2 offensive options after Jalen Brunson and more – The New York Times
    [The New York Times] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:18:09 GMT
    1. Knicks’ rotation projections, No. 2 offensive options after Jalen Brunson and more
    2. Pros and cons of Knicks utilizing small-ball lineup during 2024-25 NBA season
    3. Top 3 best-case scenarios for highly anticipated New York Knicks season
    4. What will the Knicks rotation look like?
    5. Will the Knicks Win Over 53.5 Games This Season?


  • Three Centers Knicks Can Still Sign – Sports Illustrated
    [Sports Illustrated] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 13:00:00 GMT

    Three Centers Knicks Can Still Sign


  • Former New York Knicks 1st-Round Pick Is Still A Free Agent – Sports Illustrated
    [Sports Illustrated] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:37:56 GMT

    Former New York Knicks 1st-Round Pick Is Still A Free Agent


  • The Knicks’ bet on the Detroit Pistons is a long shot – Piston Powered
    [Piston Powered] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:36:41 GMT

    The Knicks’ bet on the Detroit Pistons is a long shot


  • New York Knicks Insider Gives Julius Randle Extension Update – Sports Illustrated
    [Sports Illustrated] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:00:02 GMT
    1. New York Knicks Insider Gives Julius Randle Extension Update
    2. Knicks Notes: Randle, Rotation, Kolek, Yurtseven, Bridges
    3. Knicks Mailbag: Latest on a potential Julius Randle extension, plus Tyus Jones considered NY’s offer
    4. Knicks rival front office member gives insight on Julius Randle’s trade value
    5. Extension talks reportedly remain on back burner for both Knicks, Julius Randle


  • Magic rising star is out to pass the Knicks in the East standings next season – Empire Sports Media
    [Empire Sports Media] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:17:40 GMT

    Magic rising star is out to pass the Knicks in the East standings next season


  • Knicks Rising Front Office Exec Named to NBA 40 Under 40 – Heavy.com
    [Heavy.com] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:13:09 GMT

    Knicks Rising Front Office Exec Named to NBA 40 Under 40


  • Report: Knicks Nearly Signed Suns PG – Sports Illustrated
    [Sports Illustrated] – Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:00:05 GMT
    1. Report: Knicks Nearly Signed Suns PG
    2. Tyus Jones reportedly took less money to start for contender
    3. Free agent target considered Knicks offer, but NY couldn’t give him what he wanted
    4. Suns PG Listed Among Biggest Steals of Offseason
    5. Knicks nearly signed assist maestro point guard to 2-year deal

  • 54 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.08.22)”

    ESPN award predictions are out. A newly extended, sparsely bearded, highly hair-gelled guy who no one wants to play for snares the COTY award.

    “I mean, there’s no right answer I guess, as it’s all subjective. But some of those guys you list just aren’t great singers, even handicapped for their whiteness:)

    That said, hope you and your son enjoy Tedeschi Trucks next weekend! Wish I was gonna be there with you, dying to catch them again.”

    Thanks Donnie, very fired up about it! My wife never heard of them so I played some youtube clips and she was imressed: “She’s got a great voice!”

    As to Seger, he does technically have a better voice with more range than some of the guys on my list. I remember then he took the country by storm…he had a 2-year run of hits that rivaled anyone’s. But after a while his songs started sounding the same, and his run burned out kind of quickly.

    I also thought of some guys that I left off the list because their vocal quality didn’t pass muster even though I like to listen to them sing more than Segar (Dylan, Knopfler) or that their music didn’t exactly appeal to me like George Michael (might have has the best voice of all, listen to this live duet with Elton John, I played it for my daughter during one of our long road trips and she was so moved listened to it every day for years after that!), David Lee Roth, Waylon Jennings, Barry Gibb, and others. I’m not into alternative/grunge stuff but Laybe Staley had a hell of a voice. I found Kurt Cobain’s voice grating. The heavy metal guys like Ozzie are in a different class.

    David Bowie was also a glaring omission, although his voice, purely speaking, is sort of a tweener.

    Now that the coffee is kicking in, more glaring omissions: Paul Simon, Stevie Winwood, Darryl Hall, Frankie Valli, Dion, Jim Morrison, Justin Hayward, Peter Gabriel…

    Lousy voice, great singer ( albeit country except for his Rick Rubin produced albums)-Johnny Cash. His phrasing ranks with Sinatra and Howlin Wolf. Springsteen also has a lousy voice but a great singer for his own songs. ( My own fave for lousy voice great singer for his own songs is John Hiatt, whose songs have been covered by artists with much better voices but somehow his versions sound better. The same can be said of Dylan).

    Freddie Mercury is probably the most talented male rock singer, but my favorite (Townes Van Zandt) is probably one of the least talented, go figure.

    If I put a parameter that a great voice is one that can cover any song and make it sound special, Chris Cornell shoots way up the list.

    Springsteen at Camden Yards on September 13, 10 days before his 75th birthday. We went to the same high school.

    That’s cool, Doogie! For me, he’s at the top end of the “lousy voice but great for his genre” group…well above Knopfler and Dylan but not quite Cash and Helm.

    My wife was shocked that I left Sinatra off, but he wasn’t a rocker by any stretch.

    A young nephew(4) has arrived at John Denver. As a morning lunch and good night (6:30pm) practice JD really does the trick. Especially as I watch my particulate matter sublimating into the dewy embrace of a gridless New Hampshire Lake. Geo, do you fish? – getting back to civilization now.
    – I ate at a restaurant in Sandwich called the corner house. The corner house is famous for a ghost named Clarence who enters through a portal that is currently occupied by an air conditioning unit. I figured, since I was in the middle of Being John Malkovivhing it made sense to find the portal on the one and a half floor since the portal was located on an original second floor scaled out a hundred years ago, in a building built forty years before gas in Pennsylvania contributed to us taking up arms against each other to free American slaves. The Clarence burger was surprisingly good! Not a smash burger, and not not a smash burger – enough Maillard and enough juice to make the oniony Swiss finish feel kinda slutty.
    – I dreamed I was having dinner with Thibs at some point after a lovely campfire that saw me way past darkness. The loons were hefty hollering by the time sleep claimed me. We were in the back of one of my friend’s pop up restaurants (he’s never had one)in New Orleans (He runs f&b at one of my favorite boutique hotels in the country) and we were getting into it. I can’t remember a worthy measure of the conversation. I do remember that I asked him how he was gonna make this work without I Hart. He just stared at me. I wasn’t particularly intimidated but his glare was particularly intimidating. Finally he said something to the effect “that’s my job to figure out” as I had somewhere else to dream.
    – Vermont is really where it’s at. New Hampshire is a thing but Vermont is a bosom. And a good bosom is a great place to lay your head at night. Or every night.

    I’ll throw in some votes for:

    Alex Chilton – Great combination of vocal ability and personal style, could really deliver a rocker and a heartfelt ballad equally convincingly

    Richard Manuel – The most haunting and broken voice you could ever imagine, his voice is just an instrument of pain

    Fred Neil – Rich, glorious baritone, incredible powerful instrument of a voice

    Jeff Buckley – One of the most naturally talented singers who ever lived, a true virtuoso

    Nick Drake – Limited range but incredible tone, voice sounds like it is haunted by ancient ghosts

    Scott Walker – Brilliant stylist, a postmodern crooner with a booming instrument

    Robin Zander – great rock frontman, voice is like a shiny newly minted penny, highly underrated

    Sorry to bring basketball back into it, enjoying the heck out of bad White male singers; but I just wanna say I can see this in my mind’s eye, so hoping it happens (Katz pt 2):

    “Randle could jump into the role Isaiah Hartenstein played so effectively a season ago, fielding dump-offs from Brunson and heading downhill with three teammates and only three defenders in front of him. That’s an advantage for the Knicks. If Randle is playing center, meaning Mitchell Robinson is not present to clog up the middle, an action like this becomes even more dangerous than the ones with Hartenstein, considering Randle’s All-Star ball skills and the top-notch shooters that could surround him.”

    A young nephew(4) has arrived at John Denver. As a morning lunch and good night (6:30pm) practice JD really does the trick. Especially as I watch my particulate matter sublimating into the dewy embrace of a gridless New Hampshire Lake. Geo, do you fish? – getting back to civilization now.
    – I ate at a restaurant in Sandwich called the corner house. The corner house is famous for a ghost named Clarence who enters through a portal that is currently occupied by an air conditioning unit. I figured, since I was in the middle of Being John Malkovivhing it made sense to find the portal on the one and a half floor since the portal was located on an original second floor scaled out a hundred years ago, in a building built forty years before gas in Pennsylvania contributed to us taking up arms against each other to free American slaves. The Clarence burger was surprisingly good! Not a smash burger, and not not a smash burger – enough Maillard and enough juice to make the oniony Swiss finish feel kinda slutty.
    – I dreamed I was having dinner with Thibs at some point after a lovely campfire that saw me way past darkness. The loons were hefty hollering by the time sleep claimed me. We were in the back of one of my friend’s pop up restaurants (he’s never had one)in New Orleans (He runs f&b at one of my favorite boutique hotels in the country) and we were getting into it. I can’t remember a worthy measure of the conversation. I do remember that I asked him how he was gonna make this work without I Hart. He just stared at me. I wasn’t particularly intimidated but his glare was particularly intimidating. Finally he said something to the effect “that’s my job to figure out” as I had somewhere else to dream.
    – Vermont is really where it’s at. New Hampshire is a thing but Vermont is a bosom. And a good bosom is a great place to lay your head at night. Or every night.

    After reading the word salad I can only conclude Clarence is really Kamala Harris 🙂

    I’m old, not working, trying to take things slow…so I’ve become somewhat of an expert on sitting around…

    today’s spot is the jury pool room at the san bernardino courthouse…

    much much more interesting faces to gaze upon here…

    “the dewy embrace of a gridless new hampshire”…

    look at you with the sexy words clarence 🙂

    man, I have tried fishing multiple times, I just lack basic patience for such an activity…

    sort of sounds like you get out and about to some pretty spots in the world there clarence…

    safe journeys sir…

    “Randle could jump into the role Isaiah Hartenstein played so effectively a season ago, fielding dump-offs from Brunson and heading downhill with three teammates and only three defenders in front of him. That’s an advantage for the Knicks.”

    I want this so much. Pass, pass, pass. Let’s increase Randle’s AST/game by as many as possible.

    “Randle could jump into the role Isaiah Hartenstein played so effectively a season ago, fielding dump-offs from Brunson and heading downhill with three teammates and only three defenders in front of him. That’s an advantage for the Knicks. If Randle is playing center, meaning Mitchell Robinson is not present to clog up the middle, an action like this becomes even more dangerous than the ones with Hartenstein, considering Randle’s All-Star ball skills and the top-notch shooters that could surround him.”

    What made this work with iHart was that it came packaged with his elite rim protection and defensive IQ on the other end.

    Are we gonna rely on OG at the 4 to protect the rim? That reminds me of our M. Night Shyamalan discussion the other day; it’d be like a sequel to one of his better movies that went unmentioned: Glass!

    Thanks Geo! I have made it my business to go and be where the world sustains me. Too many shameless troglodytes irl (never mind the phantom wankers).

    Jury pool… full of piss

    With better wing defense you make it more difficult to get to the rim in the first place. OG and Mikal on the wing should be quite an effective pairing. That should offset some (not all) of the loss in rim protection.

    Plus you’d probably be better on the offensive end. At the end of the day the idea is to score more points than the opponent.

    What made this work with iHart was that it came packaged with his elite rim protection and defensive IQ on the other end.

    Point taken, but we gotta believe Julius is a better scoring threat with the ball in iHart’s place, right? That counts. Add in JK’s salient point above ….

    Basically, if Julius doesn’t whirl around like a dervish and throw every ball out of bounds, this could be a plus for us. I hope he’s watching “tape.”

    you know clarence, to be honest I’m a bit curious about the process, I’ve never seen a live trial before…

    I got a bunch of drugs in me, nowhere to really be…

    thankfully found my cleareyes drops so I don’t look nearly as faded as I’m becoming…

    I like your fire, find what fuels you…

    went back on a daily anti-anxiety med, don’t like that, one of the things I was most apprehensive about when I began therapy was needing to change who I was to the point of losing myself…

    having to act so differently from how I lived so long…

    desperate times require desperate measures…

    do you take a bunch of pics?

    collect any specific type mementos?

    I worry about Randle’s decision-making, both the speed and accuracy. Randle tends to take his time making reads and they’re, umm, less than perfect.

    What I really hope is getting Randle downhill is an automatic bucket with nothing more than him muscling his way to the rim.

    Freddie Mercury was white?

    As to the others, all talented in their own ways, few were put on earth with the god-given gift. Jagger, Fogarty, Bowie et al found something that worked and ran with it. Mercury, Seger, and Rod Stewart have near pitch-perfect voices with ascending levels of dirt respectively. For me, I don’t think there is a more viscerally pleasing tone than when Seger sings. Him singing is like Jacqueline du Pré playing the cello — they can’t make a bad sound even if they try. Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, Otis Redding — these are the voices I put him in conversation with.

    None of this means that he’s my favorite singer-songwriter. Just that when his voice comes on the radio, it is immensely pleasing to listen to.

    Why do those whirling dervishes always get a bad rap, their dance is tightly controlled.

    my favorite (Townes Van Zandt) is probably one of the least talented, go figure.

    Ess — did you see Ethan Hawke’s movie Blaze? Charlie Sexton (i.e. Bob Dylan’s guitarist) plays Townes Van Zandt in it. He’s really good!

    Freddie Mercury was Persian/Parsi.

    Is that white? (He was from Africa so I figured he had a bit of african in him).

    I hear that, Geo. Get tickled. I do take a picture now and again though my approach has shifted significantly. I have a Nikon d7500 that makes it out with me when I venture into spaces I expect to spend some time behind the lense but otherwise my phone suffices and exceeds in many instances. I don’t take a lot of photos anymore, just really wait for the moment or the thing. I buy pickles and keep interesting rocks. A good tshirt from here and there. Always get tank tops when I find them. Good tanks for men are really hard to lock on.

    The US Census Bureau categorizes Persians as Caucasian, for what that’s worth (people from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East).

    Of course that’s the US Census Bureau.

    god bless on the tank tops clarence…lord knows if I had a truly fit physique – you’d have to fight me to keep my clothes on…

    I’d be running around half naked everywhere…

    little chocolate donuts though you know…

    Why do those whirling dervishes always get a bad rap, their dance is tightly controlled.

    Haha. Indeed. We can all marvel at that, but if they then throw the ball out of bounds, no me gusta 😉

    +1 on BLAZE by Ethan Hawke if you like that style/period of music.

    “Is that white? (He was from Africa so I figured he had a bit of african in him).”

    You can be born in Africa and still be white. And not only in South Africa. Tanzania counts, too.

    I do love Mark Knolfler. A sure sign you are middle aged is a sudden affection for Sailing to Philadelphia.

    Well, the caucasus are roughly in Persia. So it’s awkward for the census to say Persians aren’t white because at some point American racial pseudoscience decided white people are all Caucasian.

    Yes. Since “race” was socially constructed out of thin air by some fairly nefarious fellows, I suppose we (and the US Census) can say whatever we wish about Bob Segar and Freddie Mercury 😉

    And — to close the circle re: Freddie — wiki says Mercury’s parents were Parsi immigrants to Zanzibar from India, making them descendants of South Asians who migrated from Persia (centuries before Bohemian Rhapsody) in order to escape religious persecution.

    Of course, the Parsis prolly left behind some extraordinary and whirling (Muslim) dervishes, but it was likely the right move at the time (Thus spoke Zarathustra, indeed).

    Point taken, but we gotta believe Julius is a better scoring threat with the ball in iHart’s place, right? That counts. Add in JK’s salient point above ….

    iHart from floater range, last 2 seasons: 57%

    Randle: 50%

    iHart from floater range, last 2 seasons: 57% Randle: 50%

    Yeah, I hear you. Keep in mind I’m arguing for Randle to be more like iHart in those situations, not less. I get that we will miss him.

    I will say that Julius is ~ 60% inside 5ft, which is kind of what EB is hoping for above (I think). Randle should cause problems going to the hoop. If he also learns to pass well when help D comes at him, all the better.

    “You can be born in Africa and still be white

    Mind officially blown.”

    I doubt that’s actually true, but for someone who originally said “Is that white? (He was from Africa so I figured he had a bit of african in him),” maybe I shouldn’t be surprised. Lordy…….one could have two white American parents who happen to be in Africa at the time that one is born, and that baby would still be white.

    What a weird pair of comments.

    Pretty low. Then again, some posters can only hear “white people” sing, so only those of us who can hear any race will be able to answer that question for you.

    Well that tv series was the most watched in Asia at the time. And the people singing are mega stars for billions of people.

    “Well that tv series was the most watched in Asia at the time. And the people singing are mega stars for billions of people.”

    I didn’t say that it was awful; in fact, it was pretty entertaining. I only said that on a ranking of greatest vocalists, he’d rank pretty low. 🙂

    Lordy…….one could have two white American parents who happen to be in Africa at the time that one is born, and that baby would still be white.

    Dude, I was talking about a specific person, the former frontman for the band Queen, who looks like a person of color, sings like a person of color, was portrayed by a person of color in his biopic, and comes from the continent of Africa. That’s where my confusion lay. Not in the idiotic contention that white people can’t he born in africa. You really are anathema to this site, my god you contribute less than nothing. (Thank god for KBA, his posts today are sunlight!)

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