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Knicks Morning News (2024.09.04)


  • What impact will Josh Hart, Donte DiVincenzo have off Knicks’ bench in 2024-25 NBA season? – Yahoo Sports
    [Yahoo Sports] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 15:03:36 GMT
    1. What impact will Josh Hart, Donte DiVincenzo have off Knicks’ bench in 2024-25 NBA season?
    2. Knicks Grew Deep Roots During 2024 Offseason


  • The many times it was so much worse – Posting and Toasting
    [Posting and Toasting] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 11:27:49 GMT

    The many times it was so much worse


  • How the Knicks handle Julius Randle’s extension could define future – New York Daily News
    [New York Daily News] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 20:20:51 GMT

    How the Knicks handle Julius Randle’s extension could define future


  • Former Knicks Star Returns to Familiar Team – Sports Illustrated
    [Sports Illustrated] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 11:01:12 GMT
    1. Former Knicks Star Returns to Familiar Team
    2. Jeremy Lin will continue playing in Taiwan next season
    3. NBA Champion Jeremy Lin Makes Decision On Basketball Future
    4. Jeremy Lin extends contract with New Taipei Kings
    5. BASKETBALL Jeremy Lin extends deal with TPBL’s New Taipei Kings


  • Dwight Howard Knicks Missing Piece? – Sports Illustrated
    [Sports Illustrated] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 13:00:01 GMT

    Dwight Howard Knicks Missing Piece?


  • The Knicks ended up striking gold with trade to acquire the teams Hart and soul 2 seasons ago – Empire Sports Media
    [Empire Sports Media] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 20:44:18 GMT

    The Knicks ended up striking gold with trade to acquire the teams Hart and soul 2 seasons ago


  • Knicks rival considering major relocation move after tax incentive proposal – Daily Knicks
    [Daily Knicks] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 21:00:00 GMT

    Knicks rival considering major relocation move after tax incentive proposal


  • New York Knicks Stars Explain How They Lost Starting Center – Sports Illustrated
    [Sports Illustrated] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 11:02:48 GMT
    1. New York Knicks Stars Explain How They Lost Starting Center
    2. Mark Cuban roasts Knicks center problem: You guys wont be able to do this
    3. Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart bemoan the odd NBA rule that cost the Knicks Isaiah Hartenstein
    4. Mitchell Robinson injury history: Every ailment Knicks center has missed time for
    5. The Knicks may not have their starting center to open season


  • Mikal Bridges and OG Anunoby defensively, going small, center concerns and more – The New York Times
    [The New York Times] – Wed, 04 Sep 2024 09:17:36 GMT
    1. Mikal Bridges and OG Anunoby defensively, going small, center concerns and more
    2. 30 Teams in 30 Days: Addition of Mikal Bridges strengthens Knicks’ core
    3. Knicks could have the best defensive duo in the NBA this season
    4. What is Mikal Bridges’ Ceiling This Season?
    5. Analyst Sees Rough Outcome for New York Knicks Newest Star


  • Warriors considering inviting forward Knicks were previously interested in to camp – Daily Knicks
    [Daily Knicks] – Tue, 03 Sep 2024 18:05:11 GMT

    Warriors considering inviting forward Knicks were previously interested in to camp

  • 18 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.09.04)”

    Thanks, Bo! I actually saw it earlier, don’t remember why or how. Hopefully a harbinger of the coming season…

    So I am quite honestly Jane the Ignorant Slut when it comes to drafting, as I don’t follow college ball outside of a cursory interest now and again. But I’ve always been gobsmacked at how it appears to be virtually impossible to identify real NBA talent, despite all the money and time thrown into it. Given the breakdown in every-little-thing in sports these days, it’s really still this hard? I bring this up due to a quote from Macri this morning that I will share:

    “Sadly, both guys were on the board when New York took Jordan Hill 8th.
    DeRozan went 9th, followed by Brandon Jennings, Terrence Williams, Gerald Henderson, Tyler Hansbrough, Earl Clark, Austin Daye, James Johnson, and then with the 17th pick, the Sixers took Holiday.”

    I mean, just look at that list. How can this be? It was a few years ago now, but still (although I thought Brandon would do better). People should lose their jobs.

    Ah, the 2009 draft. Amazingly, James Johnson (picked 16th that year) played against us (for the Pacers) in the playoffs this past season. He’s been on 10 teams, most notably Miami and Toronto. And he’s still “only” 37 years old.

    maybe it’s not necessarily an “all about talent” thing…

    no doubt the preliminary pysch/personality research is a lot better these days, still hard to always see work ethic, confidence, ambition and social team skills…particularly at that young an age…

    I think you can also attribute a bunch of young talent not panning out to many folks not being able to physically withstand the extreme bodily stress of being a pro athlete…

    most of us regular humans would quickly breakdown from the experience…

    plus organizational circumstances related to the athletes initial landing spot…

    I will say, deuce did stick out during early interviews from a confidence standpoint…

    over the years my faith that he could be a contributing rotation piece did waver, this last season of his though was more than solid…

    it was cool to see the faith thibs put in him…

    I need to look at his stats again, but I had the impression he played even better in the post season…

    Thabeet was taken #2; the Wolves picked two point guards ahead of Curry; DeRozan was pretty bad for the first half of his now endless career, he would have been traded early on and no knickerblogger tears would have been shed; Jrue also took a long time to become Jrue. Of all the knicks spilt milk in the 21st Century, the 2009 draft is little to really cry about.

    I was less thinking about the what-ifs for the Knicks than how bad it all is. Feels like the scene in Moneyball where Brad Pitt keeps pointing at Jonah Hill. Except there’s no Brad Pitt or Jonah Hill in this movie.

    Just a reminder that the clear cut WNBA Rookie of the Year is playing tonight for the Fever.

    Best post of the last week is Non fan Donnie showing he is back with painful when-he-rooted home truths.

    They say 20% of all hires are “bad” and I think it’s probably closer to 30%. That makes 6-9 busts in every NBA 1st round. Then you have the mediocre ones, and that would be (guessing this number is twice the busts) another 12-15 players. So that’s a bit over 20 players. Then you have the good (6-7 players?) and the spectacular (the remaining 3-4?) which are the only ones we care about and remember, while laughing at all the other choices.

    In short NBA execs are just like the rest of us poorly constructed humans.

    You had as close to a sure thing as possible in Doncic, vetted as an 18 year old by the 2nd most competitive league in the world, where he won MVP. And he was drafted behind two tall guys because it was suddenly 1984 again and everything Mike K had tried to teach the world was somehow only retained by Mark Cuban. 2009 was forgivable, because Curry hadn’t yet been drafted, so he therefore hadn’t redefined the game yet either. Today’s battle is always based on yesterday’s war, and Edey was supposed to be the most recent casualty. But he wasn’t. Trying to reverse the wave of change like it’s the 9th of Thermador may become known as the Kleiman Gambit. We’ll see how it goes.

    Nope. There is only Jordan Hill.

    I have to say, I laughed at this when I read it. Nice.

    darules, you make a very good point that I agree with — except what I don’t have as a hiring manager is a decade’s worth of tape on the candidate, nor people who would go to his previous job and watch him work over the years and talk to his colleagues and boss. Nor do I have intricate Youtube breakdowns of how he writes memos and emails or proposals or whatnot. I get to call his boss, who has to say nice things because HR, but my decision has to come mostly from a piece of paper and maybe two zoom calls. If it’s a high-level position maybe I walk around with him in person for a few hours.

    I also don’t have the smartest minds in the business breaking down what kind of person I should want for this position, much less statistical analyses about how good the candidate actually is at myriad tasks, and exactly how it compares to other people in similar positions.

    Instead we get “ball pops off the bat,” “clean stroke,” “ugly girlfriend means no confidence.” But what do I know.

    I saw it and shoukd have posted something. She looked great in her wedding dress.

    Instead we get “ball pops off the bat,” “clean stroke,” “ugly girlfriend means no confidence.”

    As poignant and amusing as that line was, I’d bet good money that “ugly girlfriend means no confidence” is actually a pretty effective thin-slice that holds up to statistical scrutiny.

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