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    Thibs on the Roommates Show has the feeling it’s going to be epic. If you have a question for him, try on this link. Although there’s already 1k comments, so you’ll have to be lucky to see your question appear on the show, but you never know unless you try, right? That’s the spirit!

    @Roommates__Show: It’s finally here… drop your questions for Thibs
    https://x.com/Roommates__Show/status/1799581749409714224

    I could live with this:

    24: Dunn
    25: Kolek
    38: Edwards

    Two guys who can help right away and one upside swing.

    What do you like about Edwards? I haven’t looked into him yet

    Just buying low on a guy who was originally projected as a top-3 pick. He shot much better as the year went on, even though he didn’t get many opportunities with all the UK guards jacking up shots.

    I had shared a personal anecdote about a special moment with my son. That poster chose to bring that experience and mock it, not once, but repeatedly.

    Z-Man, I did not mock the experience you shared with your son. In fact, I find your capacity to appreciate Darryl Strawberry to be quite admirable. But it did fit quite seamlessly as a counter to the charges you were levying.

    Buying low on talent that’s available due to off-court issues is a real high-risk, high-reward strategy used by some of the best teams in the business. It’s how we turned around the 90s Knicks (Sprewell). It’s how the Chicago Cubs ended 100 years of misery (Chapman). It’s how the Patriots went 18-0 (Moss). Getting into the details about Kyrie wasn’t about defending him, it was about assessing the risk.

    Well, that’s the thing for me— the risk profile seemed too high for Kyrie even as a buy-low kind of proposition. Our coach is, uh… let’s just say he’s a strong flavor. It’s very easy to imagine how that relationship could have gone horribly wrong. And that’s just one of the many ways a Kyrie marriage could have gone off the rails.

    In this regard Thibs is kind of a blessing and a curse. His presence rules out temperamental diva types like Kyrie, but on the other hand… his presence rules out temperamental diva types like Kyrie. At any rate, the idea of buying low on questionable character guys seems like more of a risk for NYK than most teams because Thibs.

    Luka now listed as questionable for tonight

    At this point I’m almost hoping he doesn’t play the rest of the series, the Celtics win in 4 games and we can put a big fat asterisk next to their championship for winning every series vs teams missing their best player.

    Would drive Celtics fans crazy.

    Luka now listed as questionable for tonight

    He’ll play unless his leg was amputated.

    If the movie is so antisemitic, why is it still available on Amazon? Why is Amazon not receiving the same level of criticism as Kyrie, who only suggested that people watch it?

    There have been a lot of players over the years who couldn’t handle playing in NYC whether it was the extra temptations or the increased spotlight, etc. In that regard having Thibs and setting this culture made perfect sense for the organization as a foundation for a real rebuild. As cliched as it is, it takes a certain kind of player to play for us. They have to be able to avoid the extra temptations and handle the extra attention.

    If the movie is so antisemitic, why is it still available on Amazon? Why is Amazon not receiving the same level of criticism as Kyrie, who only suggested that people watch it?

    You can get all sorts of racist content on Amazon, including the works of George Lincoln Rockwell, even his book White Power.

    They’re not really in the business of gatekeeping harmful content.

    Well then shouldn’t Amazon receive the condemnation, rather than a ballplayer, who didn’t really seem to understand what he was saying other than he is the descendant of Hebrews?

    Bezos can’t be held responsible for anything, don’t ya know?

    Just buying low on a guy who was originally projected as a top-3 pick. He shot much better as the year went on, even though he didn’t get many opportunities with all the UK guards jacking up shots.

    Seems like he might make it as a passable 3&D player even if his upside doesn’t hit

    “Z-Man, I did not mock the experience you shared with your son. In fact, I find your capacity to appreciate Darryl Strawberry to be quite admirable. But it did fit quite seamlessly as a counter to the charges you were levying.”

    I have said all I needed to say and I stand by every word. You and others can reckon with the merits of your “equivalency” as you and they see fit.

    “Buying low on talent that’s available due to off-court issues is a real high-risk, high-reward strategy used by some of the best teams in the business. It’s how we turned around the 90s Knicks (Sprewell). It’s how the Chicago Cubs ended 100 years of misery (Chapman). It’s how the Patriots went 18-0 (Moss). Getting into the details about Kyrie wasn’t about defending him, it was about assessing the risk.”

    Context is what matters here. If you, and you alone, feel it is appropriate and necessary to discuss acquiring two of the most notorious lowlifes in all of sports in the current scheme of things because there’s some theoretical utility to it, I think that says a lot about you. Especially considering the nature of the issues in the context of this time and place.

    I think Kyrie, at a minimum, was unacceptably tolerant of rank anti-semitism and acquiring Bridges would both not sit right and would make no sense even if he were a saint. I also think taking wholly speculative, personal cheap shots at someone for disagreeing is trash behavior and an apology is in order. Just my two cents.

    Anyway, apparently we worked out Jarrett Culver today, which I only bring up because it’s kind of funny to recall that it was a very common contrarian take to have him ranked above RJ in that draft.

    Also, on a recent Vecenie pod he mentioned that Barcelona recently acquired a new point guard, perhaps thinking they’ll need a Rokas replacement soon. If Rokas is coming over we’re definitely not making 3 picks, but would be interesting to know whether Leon et al. think he can be a bona fide NBA backup point guard.

    “I also think taking wholly speculative, personal cheap shots at someone for disagreeing is trash behavior and an apology is in order. Just my two cents.”

    I know that you and Hubert are pre-game drinking buddies so whatever. I’ll go as far as to say that I should not have bothered engaging, given my very confident opinion about the character of the poster.

    Whoever thought it was a good idea hiring a guy who spends most of their time in Montana to run a multibillion dollar basketball franchises odds reckoning is a fucking psychopath. Fly fishing is awesome.

    Moving on, here’s some more insight into Chet Walker beyond the court:

    But it was also as a trailblazer that separated Walker as he was the fulcrum from which the Bulls first became a winning franchise with a five-year run averaging more than 50 wins and a conference finals narrow seventh game loss. That went along with his civil rights work in Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy and vocally against the apartheid in South Africa to his seminal labor work with daring NBA players who challenged ownership and the league to finally win free agency. And not without sacrifice as Walker’s NBA career, even still the Bulls closer and go-to shot maker for last plays, came to an abrupt end following that devastating 1975 seventh game conference finals loss to the Golden State Warriors and a tumultuous run with a Bulls team that led the league in disappointments and floor burns.

    When no NBA team apparently in the wake of his activism would sign him despite being the second leading scorer on the Bulls in 1975 and averaging more than 19 points per game, Walker retired.

    That Walker was a signatory of the Oscar Robertson suit that led to free agency and filed his own action which delayed a settlement and a merger with the ABA was not lost on NBA elders.

    “The point was the lawsuit changed the structure of the NBA,” Walker once told me. “The players started making more money, so the coaches made more money. It took away the sole power the owners had. The Robertson suit was the start of what made possible all the money that’s made now. Larry Fleisher (players’ attorney) never got the credit he deserved. Nobody talks about what those players did.

    “I felt I was blacklisted,” Walker added about his departure from the Bulls in 1975. “(William) Wirtz was angry I didn’t want to come back to the Bulls. I couldn’t play for (Dick) Motta anymore. We got past it, but then I felt we should have won at least two championships with that team. I thought I had a deal in Milwaukee, but then I couldn’t get one anywhere. It was like the end of the story.”

    But it was just a new chapter for the sophisticated and earnest Walker, who moved to Los Angeles to enter the movie business. He was taken by the bold story of Isiah Thomas’ mother and how she shielded her children from the gangs of the West Side. Walker’s TV movie A Mother’s Courage: The Mary Thomas Story won an Emmy. Walker also produced a movie about Chicago’s Father George Clements and Holy Angels Church and was one of the producers for Muhammad Ali’s movie Freedom Road. Walker became close with Ali and both the former heavyweight champion and teammate Wilt Chamberlain often traveled overseas together in summers. Walker also dabbled in acting with appearances in the late 1970s TV show, The White Shadow, about a white basketball coach in an urban high school.

    Fly fishing is indeed awesome. Or at least the setting almost always is.

    But don’t kick the pocket gophers.

    What has Culver even been up to? Wasn’t he kind of a 3 & D guy who couldn’t figure out the 3? Like a very poor man’s Devin Vassell?

    I vaguely remember Walker and Bob Love as being a dynamic pair of scoring forwards with Norm Van Lier and Jerry Sloan in the backcourt. They were a hell of a team as I remember.

    Culver absolutely sucked in his abbreviated NBA career. However, this past year he played for the Rio Grande Valley Vipers and averaged roughly 21 pts 7 rebs 4 assts in 29 games, including 38% from three and almost 2 steals a game (after averaging 27.6% from three in his NBA time).

    Maybe he’s turned a corner. Maybe it’s noise. He’s 6’6″, so at least not another 6’4″ dude.

    “I felt I was blacklisted,” Walker added about his departure from the Bulls in 1975. “(William) Wirtz was angry I didn’t want to come back to the Bulls. I couldn’t play for (Dick) Motta anymore.

    Chet Walker was a wonderful player who was a primary cog in one of the most balanced great teams the 67-68 76ers.

    In 1977 I had dinner with Bill Wirtz at Hollywood Park. Besides Chicago Stadium and the Chicago teams, the Wirtz family owned racehorses and he had a famous pacer named Governor Skipper who was a champion and was trained by a dear friend of mine. I decided to fly to LA to watch Governor Skipper race and got invited to join them in the dinning room for dinner before the race. Actor Hugh O’brien (who played Wyatt Earp in the TV series) was also at the table. What an interesting evening. Hugh Obrien was incredibly handsome (and quite an interesting fellow) and there was a non-stop procession of drop dead gorgeous women sauntering over to our table to chat him up. He was incredibly smooth and kind at the same time. I was in complete awe. It clearly wasn’t his first rodeo. Governor Skipper won easily.

    Clarence Beeks is challenging geo for the title of GOAT off-topic poster

    I take it back; I’m actually out on Kolek. He’s just not going to help that much. I’d honestly rather sign Shake Milton back up or someone like that.

    I could see them going for Shannon Jr. despite the legal issues. He and Holmes II have pretty high floors.

    Luka is obviously not 100% but that’s not stopping him from going for a 60 piece

    Maybe the Rothschilds are making Kyrie Irving miss open shots and commit stupid fouls

    Aaron Judge is insane.

    NBA Finals are on, but so is Yankees/Dodgers.

    I’m just beginning to realize that Tatum is not a particularly high basketball IQ player. He does some dumb stuff.

    I was a Culver fan coming out of college. His career has been disappointing, but it can’t hurt to take a look at him.

    I argued that going from Jrue to Dame might be a backwards move. Jrue is terrific two way player.

    It sucks more because Jrue went right to the Bucks biggest competition at the time

    I know Kidd was probably messing around, but Jaylen Brown might just be the Celtics best player.

    Maybe the best way forward is to pair OG and Ryan Dunn and hope they can lock up the perimeter and pray the team can score enough points.

    KP injury alert. Pretty much the only hope the Mavs have.

    (And if Dallas is gonna go down in flames because Kyrie shit the bed would make it a little more palatable. )

    If Tatum was a Knick I’d sound like Tourette’s patient during the games.

    Tatum almost has a triple double

    Tatum has taken 21 shots for 18 points

    His team is going to go up 2-0 In the finals

    Many ways to look at it

    Tatum is a low IQ player. The game would be over if he just stopped throwing up trash and trying to do too much. I lost track of how many possessions he made dumb decisions on. This team wins by moving the ball and getting good open looks. It’s OK to be aggressive, but you can’t keep throwing up garbage on key possessions.

    Seems odd to have a current player like Josh Hart in this role in the broadcast. I guess it is pretty common, maybe it just seems odd because it’s a Knick?

    I argued that going from Jrue to Dame might be a backwards move. Jrue is terrific two way player.

    You said the same thing about Dallas going from whoever they traded to Kyrie Irving and here they are in the finals.

    Celts up 2-0 because Luka is desperately alone despite having a triple double. Nobody stepped up. Washington was probably their second best player and Irving was a role player at best. Can’t win NBA finals like that.

    If they had Brunson, it would have been a different story. Sorry Mavs! 😂😂😂

    Mvp of the Celtics is Brad Stevens

    Added KP and Jrue – to the already existing core

    Added KP and Jrue – to the already existing core

    Unbelievable how stupid the Bucks have been. It was so obvious that Dame wouldn’t make them better.

    It seems off that Brad didn’t win Exec of the Year…one would think that that’s an award that shouldn’t even be decided before playoffs end. But even based on the regular season alone, seems wrong that he didn’t get it.

    Celtics are good but they are not a super team. The Mavs had them in the first half but Luka was soooo lonely. That was the screaming difference.

    Mavs were 6-26 from three. If you take out Luka’s 4-9, the rest of the team was 2-17.

    Probably not a recipe for playoff success.

    The Celtics top 6

    Starting lineup plus Horford is much better than every other teams top 6

    With the new CBA, will a top 6 that good be assembled again

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