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    Knicks could clear a path for former draft pick and FC Barcelona guard next season

  • 82 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.06.07)”

    It’s only one game in a marathon and anyone who watched the “Memorial Day Massacre” 39 years ago knows NBA Finals aren’t over after 48 minutes (more recently the Suns were up 2-0, then Giannis happened).

    Anyway the Celtics with KP are impressive, their top-6 are all 2-way players who at different times in their careers were first, second or third options on their teams and are able to carry the scoring burden when needed, while Luka and Kyrie are magicians but the other Mavs are complementary players who live off the two superstars and who you don’t count on to right the ship when things go awry (they did really well in the first 3 rounds but 9 team assists aren’t gonna cut it).

    Dallas will adjust, different hands will go hot and cold and I don’t expect Game-2 to be over at halftime, but the Mavs need to be close to perfection and/or their Dynamic Duo to score 70-80 points combined to win games, Boston’s margin of error is much wider (as shown by their almost sleepy previous series, in which they changed gear when needed).

    By the way, this regular two days off between Finals games are a downer… but rejoice, this year it’s a 2-days draft… for 2 rounds! (how dumb is it?).

    Next thing you know they’ll have a day off between the two days of the draft so GMs and scouts can make between round strategy adjustments. 😄

    the Celtics with KP are impressive, their top-6 are all 2-way players who at different times in their careers were first, second or third options on their teams and are able to carry the scoring burden when needed, while Luka and Kyrie are magicians but the other Mavs are complementary players who live off the two superstars and who you don’t count on to right the ship when things go awry (they did really well in the first 3 rounds but 9 team assists aren’t gonna cut it).

    To me it really drives home how hard the next step is. What the Celtics did last summer acquiring Porzingis and Holliday would be like us adding AD and Dejounte. And Leon’s job is even harder bc his two top scorers don’t play defense like Tatum & Brown do.

    I think it’s important to focus on the guys the Celtics gave up to get to this level bc these are roles we currently embrace.

    Marcus Smart: the heart & soul guy who sets the tone, makes winning plays, occasionally hits humongous shots.

    Robert Williams: the defensively dominant center who can’t shoot.

    Malcolm Brogdon: an effective scorer, good shooter, but one-way player.

    Our obvious counterparts are Hart, Mitch, Donte. It would be pretty hard emotionally to move these guys, and I’m not suggesting we do it this year. Let these guys fight and battle and come up short the way Boston did. But eventually I think you have to follow the Celtics lead and cash in those chips to get to their level.

    Hubert, you may be right. On the other hand, Educate the Weak said last night that he thought rolling it back with Randle next year won’t be enough. But that’s actually not right — it’d be rolling it back with Randle, Mitch, OG, and some bench sharpshooter who might or might not be Bogey. That’s two critically important starters and two key bench players.

    Maybe we’d get thrashed by this Boston team. But I think a healthy, scrappy Knicks as currently defined is arguably better than the Mavs. Difficult to parse as the Mavs have two wizards on their team, but that’s my offseason take.

    Our obvious counterparts are Hart, Mitch, Donte. It would be pretty hard emotionally to move these guys, and I’m not suggesting we do it this year. Let these guys fight and battle and come up short the way Boston did. But eventually I think you have to follow the Celtics lead and cash in those chips to get to their level.

    I have no difficulty running this team back healthy and see where it goes. It may go very far. However, should Luka or Jokic come available and Brunson is needed to make the trade, out he goes without a tear. After all it is a business and everyone accepts that.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38788364/2024-nba-draft-rankings-espn-top-25-prospects

    Clingan isn’t expected to drop past the Portland Trail Blazers at No. 7, whom he just visited for a private workout as well. He is being discussed among teams as a possible target for the likes of Chicago, Memphis, Oklahoma City or Utah, who all might explore trading up for a player in his mold.

    OKC trading up for Clingan would be tough to stomach from a “our position relative to them” perspective, but would be great for our chances of keeping iHart.

    Dallas has a very good team, but they are the typical very good team you see in the finals where the have a great #1 and #2 option, good defense, good role players, some depth etc…

    This Celtics team looks historically good to me. They are not just solid at every position, they are excellent on both sides of the ball at every position. If they blow this, it’s some kind of black mark against their mental strength and ability to handle the pressure.

    We can’t worry too much about them. We have to just keep trying to improve our team. Shit happens. Guys get hurt. Upsets happen.

    What I’d love to do is strengthen this team around the edges, run it back with Randle, and let them go at it knowing full well they will fall short. After all the Celtics fell short for 7 years before they got here.

    The Randle situation really complicates things, though. If OG Anunoby’s making $40mm it’s pretty unlikely Randle’s gonna take a discount on his last big payday unless you extend him right now. But that’s quite a gamble on our part. And if you don’t trade Randle now, you risk him becoming untradeable on his next contract.

    Also these aprons. If that ain’t Dolan’s razor.

    how’s it going?

    Going pretty well. I started roasting coffee a couple months ago with an Aillio Bullet, which is a pretty humbling experience. Also been keeping up my 6-days-a-week tennis habit and cavorting with sexy young singles in my area. On the other hand, I think Brandon Clarke played like six games this year from a freak injury.

    Hart’s contract is one I’m starting to think goes out towards the end of his current deal. The salary will be too high for his play but that’ll make trading for a star easier if we have the draft picks.

    Chances are we’ll need KP to get injured and for Horford & Jrue to show their age before we beat the Celtics. They do seem soft though.

    I’ve watched more draft combine scrimmage tape than NBA Finals. But I’m sure the break is great for league revenue. Might kill the cap next year.

    I still say at the end of the day the move for us to make to possibly win a title next year is Bridges.

    Bojan plus picks (maybe throw in McBride) to get Bridges. If Leon can pull that move off, I think we do have a contender that has an outside chance of beating Boston.

    Brunson/McBride/Rokas
    Bridges/DDV
    OG/Hart
    Randle/Precious
    iHart/Mitch

    I think this team could beat Boston if healthy. If we had this team or even this team but not Bridges, my expectation would be ECF and competing with Boston in a 7 game series. Anything less than that would be a disappointment.

    They do seem soft though.

    Everyone keeps saying this but this seems to be based on them coming up short in past seasons and also not really being challenged this season. It’s hard to test your mental fortitude when you breeze through the regular season on the way to 64 wins and face no real challenges in the playoffs. No one called the Shaq and Kobe second title team soft because they breezed through the playoffs.

    Has anyone considered how the potential for expansion might play out in terms of dumping unwanted salary? For example, suppose the league decided To allow teams to protect eight players from an expansion draft, and the Knicks did not want to keep Randle, couldn’t they just leave him unprotected?

    Every time I get excited about Mikal Bridges, Swifty, I read something like this (from ESPN’s current mock draft):

    Most teams expect the Rockets to heavily pursue trade opportunities, either to move down the board (with teams such as the Portland Trail Blazers, Memphis Grizzlies or Chicago Bulls) or to get out altogether if a major building block — such as Mikal Bridges — becomes unexpectedly available.

    If the #3 pick is in play for Mikal and Brooklyn still ain’t budging, I don’t know what we can do on that front.

    I would hope, though, that the success of Boston and Dallas eliminates any organizational resistance to acquiring the other Bridges. The whole world is exalting the Celtics for acquiring an accused rapist. The media has put the rapist on a pedastel. And nary a Celtic fan carries 0.01% shame over the fact that the rapist got them to the next level.

    On the Dallas front, they took a few minutes of grief for stealing Kyrie and for tanking. Safe to say they’re over it, too. So I say be like Boston and Dallas: ignore the sanctimony, steal the talent.

    A frontcourt of Miles Bridges and OG Anunoby would be a poor man’s Tatum and Brown. And just like signing Donte led to trading IQ & RJ for OG, adding Miles lets us package Randle for the final piece without missing a beat.

    The only problem is I don’t know if Miles is cheap anymore. I’d love to do a sign-and-trade where we send Bojan out and sign him for 3/60, but he’s recouped a lot of his value already and that might not be enough.

    Miles Bridges is a dangerous piece of shit and not a particularly good basketball player.

    I’m not saying that I would want us to acquire Miles, but the “not a particularly good basketball player” part should be addressed. He’s averaging 21/7/4 with 1 steal per game over his past two seasons on .476/.340/.811 shooting (.559 on two-point shots and .541 eFG). I think he’s a good basketball player.

    I’m sorry, Hubs, but there is a big difference between an allegation where no actual charges were ever filed, let alone a conviction occurred, and someone who beat the shit out of their partner.

    I’m not saying KP didn’t do what he was accused of. Maybe he did. But you cannot say these are the same when one was proven beyond a doubt and the other was never even brought to a trial.

    Leaving aside the whole controversy thing, Miles Bridges just isn’t that good. He’s good, but he’s not KP or Kyrie. He’s a poor man’s Jaylen in the same way Seth Curry is a poor man’s Steph Curry.

    He has one season with an OBPM over 0.3 and only carried a 22.6% usage that year, which doesn’t exactly scream number 2 scorer. He’s not exactly known for playing strong defense either.

    If you’re going to acquire a scummy player, I’d suggest looking into Terrence Shannon Jr with one of our picks. Explosive athlete with solid size on the wing who hit 36% of his 3s, his rape trial starts Monday.

    We could also just not get one of those players.

    Yeah, I’d rather not get one of “those players,” either. One of our biggest strengths is our team chemistry and synergy, which is actually why I’m a little bit worried about *any* big moves that go beyond “tinkering on the edges.” I’d first like to see what the healthy version of our team (January 2024) looks like again before doing so.

    (I just disagree that if Miles Bridges hadn’t done anything wrong he would be an interesting player to at least consider, if we *were* considering a biggish move.)

    there is a big difference between an allegation where no actual charges were ever filed, let alone a conviction occurred, and someone who beat the shit out of their partner.

    Not that it matters but the charges against Bridges were dropped due to insufficient evidence, which is the same reason Porzingis didn’t get charged.

    The “big difference” you refer to is that people believe Bridges’ accuser and they don’t believe Porzingis’. Both of them should be believed.

    Luka only had 1 assist last night, which is kind of stunning. Boston didn’t double him, so no lobs and not a lot of open 3’s for his teammates. And Dallas had more turnovers (11) than assists (9)

    If the Celtics continue to get away with not doubling Luka, then I take back my prediction of Mavs in 6 and it could be a very short series.

    Kidd obviously needs to make some adjustments.

    He’s youngish and missed a year so maybe he’ll return to his 1 year high, but the defense is bad, the rebounding subpar, and the shooting below average. He’s not garbage (on the court, he is as a human being) but he’s nowhere near the level of any Celtics starter. He’s about as good as the Celtic 2nd unit players.

    The charges against Bridges were dropped due to “insufficient evidence”.

    Dude, he pled no contest. Even he didn’t defend himself as much as you do.

    The charges following his second arrest were dropped due to insufficient evidence.

    Not that it matters but the charges against Bridges were dropped due to insufficient evidence, which is the same reason Porzingis didn’t get charged.

    He pleaded no contest to felony domestic violence charges

    Miles Bridges pleaded no contest in November 2022 to a felony count of injuring a child’s parents, agreeing to do so in exchange for three years of probation and no jail time. The charges that were dropped were related to a violation of a protection order that occurred in October 2023.

    Typical that a certain agenda driven poster would post yet another suggestive fall equivalency.

    The commentary on Bridges not being good at basketball is just wrong. He was usually the only quality basketball players on the court for the Hornets last year so he took way more shots than he should have, including lots of terrible shots that he have no reason to ever take here. When you take too many bad shots you will look bad in the AIO numbers DRed and EB focus on.

    Bridges guarded the opponent’s best player every night. And (significantly for us) he played in 69 of the 71 games he was able to play after his suspension lifted. He also averaged 37.4 mpg.

    There is a moral case to be made here, but not a basketball one. Put this guy next to OG and make him our 3rd/4th option, he’ll be basketball gold.

    Typical that a certain agenda driven poster would post yet another suggestive fall equivalency.

    Z-Man, I just want us to trade for him to keep up with the Joneses. I’m not going to bring the whole family out to celebrate him and make excuses for his domestic violence on the blog like you did.

    I hate the Celtics as much or more than anyone here, but kudos to jettisoning a finals coach for something at face value is way less than what Miles did.

    I know Mikal has more value than Hart, but on a lineup like we have of Brunson, OG, Randle and iHart, i don’t think the improvement justifies the assets needed to get him. I’m of the opinion that we should keep the team as is, because our lineup is great for now. And we should wait for the next superstar that demands a trade. Giannis, please!

    One thing I have tried not to do is bring anyone’s parenting/family/professional life into any arguments here. Considering the kind of life Hubert has lead, seems curious that he would go there. Kind of a Donald Trump thing to do. Which makes a lot of sense, given the similarities and character.

    “One thing I never do here is [the thing that I’m most known for doing here and which I am currently doing right now].”

    Ooh I love when the offseason gets spicy.

    Btw isn’t Miles B. a UFA anyway? Kinda feels like Detroit won’t convince anyone else to come and will end up signing him to a big contract.

    Yes, he is, ess-dog. But we have Bojan’s $20MM so we could do a sign-and-trade and offer 3/60 or 4/80. A team like Detroit might offer much more, though.

    I’d imagine a Donte-esque arc where he starts as a bench piece. As the year progresses we make a consolidation trade like we did with OG. We’d be able to do something as small as Randle for Murray or as large as Randle, Mitch, Donte, and picks for Booker.

    In the very, very fake world where Miles Bridges is a saint, why exactly would we hard cap ourselves to S&T for a guy demonstrably worse than OG and Randle? The Hornets would have all the leverage and wouldn’t cooperate unless we gave them real assets on top of Bogey and probably Mitch as salary matching. Bridges will also be a BYC guy, complicating everything. All this to get…a decent 6th man?

    If I were to rank every single NBA player by how much sense it would make for the Knicks to acquire them, Miles Bridges would be pretty low without even accounting for anything other than the salary cap and basketball fit. Allonzo Trier is a more worthwhile topic of conversation.

    why exactly would we hard cap ourselves to S&T for a guy demonstrably worse than OG and Randle

    How would we hard cap ourselves if we send $20mm out and take $20mm in? Genuinely asking because I don’t know if the new rules have some weird clause I don’t know of. What level are we hard capped at, and for how long?

    The Hornets would have all the leverage and wouldn’t cooperate unless we gave them real assets on top of Bogey and probably Mitch as salary matching.

    If the Hornets play hard ball then walk away. But it seems like they would rather have a Fugazi first and not rack up the marginal wins Miles adds. Not to mention it’s better than losing him to Detroit for nothing.

    Bridges will also be a BYC guy, complicating everything.

    Charlotte has $30mm in cap space so they could easily send out $8mm and take back $20mm. The draft pick compensates them for the trouble.

    All this to get…a decent 6th man?

    Let’s cut the crap about Bridges not being good at basketball. He’s quite good already and is just 25 years old. This is the exact point in their careers where we picked up Brunson and Randle, too, and Bridges’ age 23 season is well ahead of anything Brundle had ever done before we signed them. You bring him to develop him into a legitimate top-4 guy who plays both ends of the court. But most importantly, you bring him in for the same reason you brought Donte in: to enable a consolidation trade.

    The basketball objections to acquiring him are ridiculous. He fits like a glove and he’s available at the perfect inflection point of his career just like our last two prize acquisitions.

    Miles Bridges has never been a great three-point shooter, and had a cruddy year overall last year, with a 96 eFG+ and TS+. He’s probably also going to be fairly expensive as he is a UFA. I can sort of squint my eyes, pretend the character issues are not a problem, and see him working out as a replacement for Bogdanovich if he were to come on a buy low deal, but somebody will probably pay market value for him.

    but somebody will probably pay market value for him.

    I am afraid of that, too, but apparently he sucks at basketball so his market value should be negligible.

    I think our own players are a lot better than most of these trade proposals. Resign OG and iHart, draft two high character two way kids with good size and athletic ability and just run it back until the all-star break.

    I’d rather keep fliping expiring contracts (Evian 4 Bojan) and patiently wait for a difference maker then prematurely pull a trigger on good enough guys like Lavine, Miles, Kat…etc.

    Any team that acquires a player via sign-and-trade is hard capped at the first apron, which is projected to be around $179M.

    Randle, Brunson, Mitch, Hart, DDV, and Deuce make around $102.4M. Let’s say we S&T Bogey for Miles Bridges making $25M (probably conservative). So we’re at $127.4M without minimum roster charges or draft pick cap holds.

    Once you account for minimum roster charges, we already can’t squeeze in OG at $35M and iHart at $16.2M. We definitely can’t make any draft picks, not even second rounders, unless they’re stashes.

    If the Hornets play hard ball then walk away. But it seems like they would rather have a Fugazi first and not rack up the marginal wins Miles adds. Not to mention it’s better than losing him to Detroit for nothing.

    Totally disagree. With Miller already in the fold and a LaMelo they’ll be hoping is healthy, I highly doubt they’re all that concerned about marginal wins–they never really have been anyway. There’s also the fact that Miles Bridges has not exactly prevented them from sucking in the past, which of course raises serious questions about the wisdom of moving heaven and earth to acquire him!

    There’s no way they’d prefer a fake first to re-signing him, and if he can get more money from Detroit then he would be the party no cooperating here anyway.

    Let’s cut the crap about Bridges not being good at basketball.

    He has his skills, but as you can see acquiring him is a huge headache that jeopardizes OG and/or iHart and stops us from adding any draft picks to the roster this year. Do you really think he’s that good?

    All this before we account for the ugliness of it all. The hardest of passes.

    EDIT: it’s even dumber than I realized at first glance. For any of this to be possible, we’d have to renounce the rights OG and iHart and thus forfeit the ability to re-sign them at all. Should be the end of the discussion, yeah? Kadeem Allen anyone?

    Any team that acquires a player via sign-and-trade is hard capped at the first apron, which is projected to be around $179M.

    Well yeah, that throws a major monkey wrench in the plan.

    It’s not this bad, though:

    For any of this to be possible, we’d have to renounce the rights OG and iHart and thus forfeit the ability to re-sign them at all. Should be the end of the discussion, yeah?

    You’re being a little catastrophic. There are easy ways to get under the first apron without renouncing OG and iHart. Most of them involve moving Mitch, though.

    But the idea was to steal Bridges if you can. Not pay a ransom for him. If the cost gets too high, forget about it.

    Isn’t Miles Bridges the one who choked out and punched his wife in the face repeatedly?

    “Isn’t Miles Bridges the one who choked out and punched his wife in the face repeatedly?”

    You left out the in front of his child part.

    It takes a special kind of cluelessness to pollute the board with scenarios to acquire the most reprehensible players in the league that have zero chance of happening. How desperate does one have to be to appear clever?

    I’m sure Walt Perrin is combing the maximum security prisons and neo-nazi training camps of the world for the next Hubert fave as we speak.

    When you take too many bad shots you will look bad in the AIO numbers DRed and EB focus on

    As I said, he’s good but he’s not that good. He’s not a guy you compare to Jaylen Brown.

    As far as I know he’s never been considered a good defender. If he’s guarding the opponent’s best player it could very well be that everyone else on his team manages to be worse. Buddy Hield guarded the opponent’s best players at the end of last season for the Pacers because Mathurin and Hali both suck worse than he does.

    Hes only been above 1.0 stls/36 once and was at exactly 1.0 blks/36 twice, never above. He doesn’t really stand out in either category.

    He doesn’t take that many shots. At 24.7% usage with 55% of his fgs assisted, it wasn’t as if he was carrying a Brunson-esque load or even a Randle-esque load. He’s only had 2 seasons above 20% usage.

    Maybe he could have a breakout year, he’s talented and still young enough, maybe moving out of Charlotte does it, but there’s a lot of wish casting going on.

    The moral arguments didn’t affect me, and I thought the basketball arguments were ridiculous. But Noble’s first apron hard cap is unassailable. The dream is dead.

    The guy had a good season 3 years ago, it’s the only good season he’s had in his NBA career. Dream bigger.

    Tell me, Z-Man, when you went to Darryl Strawberry Day were you wearing the wife beater’s jersey? I bet you were.

    I’m a hard “no” on Miles Bridges. He’s not the solution and I don’t think I want to gamble our great clubhouse chemistry on a volatile guy like Bridges anyway.

    “Z-Man, when you went to Darryl Strawberry Day were you wearing the wife beater’s jersey? I bet you were.”

    Nah, I was there with my son, who at 25 years old still loves to hang out with me. I wonder if your son will be going to games with you once he gets old enough to know what a reprehensible lowlife you really are…

    Tell you what, why don’t you show a picture of the woman Bridges beat up and tell your son that the guy who did that in front of his kid is the guy you want to play for the Knicks? Why don’t you buy him a custom-made jersey in advance?

    I’m still thinking Mikal or Brogdon as the best options if at all possible.

    To stay on theme, I bet we can get Delonte West for nothing.

    Poor guy.

    Z-Man, you literally posted a “He beat his wife but I love him because he hit home runs!” piece 6 days ago:

    Z-mansays:
    June 1, 2024 at 12:18
    Taking my son to the Darryl Strawberry number retirement game. Splurged for good seats. Straw was probably my favorite Met of all time, and I go back to the ’69 Mets. He is far from a perfect citizen, and wasted some of his enormous gifts away. He paid a heavy price for his poor decisions. Even with his fall from grace, I tend to be more forgiving of guys who grew up in tough circumstances, and who have been humbled as he has. I will be happy to honor him today for the joy he gave me back in the 80’s, remembering how he was the first ray of hope for the Mets after a godawful stretch, and that he delivered on at least some of his promise.

    You’re not fooling anyone, bro.

    The guy had a good season 3 years ago, it’s the only good season he’s had in his NBA career. Dream bigger.

    His best season was the season where he had the highest assisted basket rate. Way up there above 70 in his standout season a few years back. When he has been asked to create more, his efficiency has been below average.

    “You’re not fooling anyone, bro.”

    Not even my uber-feminist wife of 30+ years or my children who I have been there for every moment of their lives.

    His best season was the season where he had the highest assisted basket rate. Way up there above 70 in his standout season a few years back. When he has been asked to create more, his efficiency has been below average.

    On a basketball level, I really do think he’d be perfect in our system. Just like Donte and iHart and Julius and Brunson, we have a knack for getting talented guys at this age, putting them in our system, and getting more out of them.

    I didn’t know that a sign-and-trade hard caps you at the first apron, though. At the end of the day we’d have to trade Mitch for picks and roll out both of our current picks. Now you’re not buying low, you’re just buying. The idea was to steal a talent at a price depressed for non basketball reasons, not to pay market price for one.

    All goes to show how punitive these new aprons are. We have a lot less flexibility than it seems.

    A great culture is precisely what allows you to take a risk on a wildcard (viz. the Pistons’ Rasheed Wallace experience)

    There are just not enough gays in Montana for my taste. I wake up, it’s a fucking psychotropic fever dream out my window. Open up Grindr and I’m all alone in the universe. Bore me to death by pickle brine.

    Damn, did you guys know that Jaylen Brown is a genius? He is a fellow and teaches a class on robotics at MIT in the offseason and can also speak multiple languages. As such, you’d think he’d be more efficient.

    Irregardless, he seems like a great role model (but fuck Boston).

    There are just not enough gays in Montana for my taste. I wake up, it’s a fucking psychotropic fever dream out my window. Open up Grindr and I’m all alone in the universe. Bore me to death by pickle brine.

    Don’t give up, Beeks. Your Jack Twist is out there somewhere.

    Wasserman and Vecenie both have us drafting Adem Bona at 38. I assume it’s a coincidence but thought I’d mention it.

    Z-mansays:
    June 7, 2024 at 18:02

    As to the moral equivalency between Darryl Strawberry and Miles Bridges here’s a news report of the Darryl incident, which occurred in 1990.

    Unfortunately , as I am sure you are aware, this wasn’t a “one off” deal with Strawberry as he was arrested for striking women on multiple occasions. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-05-sp-31953-story.html

    All that being said your willingness to forgive Strawberry and not forgive Bridges doesn’t make you a ” reprehensible lowlife” (your words toward another poster). I’m guessing when you were younger Strawberry gave you great pleasure on many occasions and you see his actions as a result of internal demons (drug/alcohol abuse), a sub optimal upbringing, etc and he has paid a heavy price by blowing most of his career, having colon cancer, etc. He is in some ways a sympathetic figure, in others a monster.

    The sports world is full of guys who have done bad things on and off the court. Sprewell choking a 55yr old man. Derrick Rose indulging in what at best could be called a 4 way with his girlfriend and at worst a gang rape depending on who you believe. Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson going up into the stands and wailing on the wrong fan over a thrown beer and Jermaine O’neil throwing a haymaker at a civilian that was only saved by him slipping during the Malice at the Palace.

    No one condones these things, But the Judeo Christian ethic teaches us to be forgiving of others. Even in the fire and brimstone Pentateuch, In Genesis 9 G-d realized he did a bad thing with the flood and says: “I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. “

    Pretty sure Kikè Hernandez just made an error solely because he was mic’d up. The rest of the inning has taken on a very awkward feel.

    Z-Man, going into the gutter with rank speculation about someone’s personal life like this is really low. I say that as someone who happens to agree with you on the substance—I wouldn’t want Bridges even if acquiring him was realistic and he was better at basketball.

    Also, Hubert isn’t wrong that there’s some tension between enthusiastically attending Daryl Strawberry day and coming out swinging about Bridges like this. Which is fine, IMO. No one has a 100% consistent moral code, at least not one they always live out. But it does make the garbage personal attacks that much more pathetic. Cut that shit out.

    There are just not enough gays in Montana for my taste.

    dude…bzn to sfo…direct 2:30 ..get off the plane…go downtown…it’ll be like you’re in Valhalla

    In draft news, Eden’s stock May be rising. Despite rating him as the 16th best prospect, Givorny has this to say about Edey:

    Several teams say Edey’s productivity ranks him as a top-three prospect in this class according to their draft models — ESPN’s Kevin Pelton had him ranked No. 2 in his stats-only draft projections.

    From https://global.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38788364/2024-nba-draft-rankings-espn-top-25-prospects

    People seem to assume that because of the way he played at Purdue Edey will be slow and plodding. But if you watch him, he’s not a stiff, and the combine results bear this out.

    I’ve liked Edey since early in his junior season. Not as a lottery pick, but a reasonable risk-reward guy. Seems like a hard worker.

    Edey seems like the obvious answer for teams asking where the talent is this year.

    There are just not enough gays in Montana for my taste. I wake up, it’s a fucking psychotropic fever dream out my window. Open up Grindr and I’m all alone in the universe. Bore me to death by pickle brine.

    I envy your sense of lust clarence…

    hopefully you have soft hands…

    “I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. “

    We should have gone with the Jolly Roger.

    “I envy your sense of lust clarence…

    hopefully you have soft hands…”

    Let me tell you this thing. I was once on a speed boat in the Bahamas with Tom Brady. Also on the boat were Giselle and their two children. The boat accelerated up the wrong wave sending his two children hurtling into my arms which prevented the kids from going overboard. After the ride he shook my hand. Tom Brady has the softest hands that ever did caress a pig’s skin.

    Once you bring my family into it, all bets are off.

    You brought your family into this, dude. I merely highlighted the hypocrisy of taking them to Daryl Strawberry Day and calling me a reprehensible human being for wanting to acquire a distressed asset.

    Of course you also called me a reprehensible human being for suggesting maybe Julius Randle tested out his shoulder too soon.

    You should take a mental health break. Seriously. You’ve been unhinged, paranoid, and terribly annoying.

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