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73 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2023.06.27)”
Not Markaten. Not Markiten. Not Markanen. Not Markanin. Not even Markkanin.
Try “Markkanen,” fellas. It’s really not that difficult. 🙂
I think people misspell it on purpose, DDB, as a tribute to Clyde. But the Finnish Language Society thanks you for your service. 😉
I don’t know how Mike’s doing about the support for the blog, so i propose that for every 2 comments about the trade that i shall not name (but rhymes with ❤️), the person that did it must give 1 dolar to KB’s Patreon account. Deal? 🤝
Everyone knows that. We’re just saying Markaten in honor of Clyde since that’s how he always says it.
2022-23 Most Prolific Scorer by Zone (one Knick is there and E isn’t going to like it)
https://twitter.com/NBA_University/status/1673325406391238657
Everyone knows that. We’re just saying Markaten in honor of Clyde since that’s how he always says it.
That doesn’t explain the other incorrect versions that have an “n” instead of a “t.”
We don’t mind that you spell Julie as Doogie, nor do we mind that you constantly claim to have been in Earth Girls are Easy even though we all know that was the other Doogie Brown.
Use Grimes more and you have internal improvement right there. I think it’s going to happen.
Obviously those are just misspellings of an unusual name.
No surprise, but Jake Fischer says there’s a lot of chatter about us getting DiVincenzo. He’s a good player and clearly fills a need, but with the rotation already pretty crowded with cromulent-to-good players I would think there’s another move coming if we do sign him.
Could be something as small as moving Obi for a pick, or something bigger involving one or more of RJ, IQ, and Grimes.
Yeah there’s not enough minutes—not that I’d mind—but he’d do a lot to fix our shooting. Maybe the Nova troika wants to be together that bad.
Now I will stand in the rain on the corner
I watch the people go shuffling downtown
Another ten minutes no longer
And then I’m turning around, ’round
And the clock on the wall’s moving slower
Oh, my heart it sinks to the ground
And the storm that I thought would blow over
Clouds the light of the love that I found, found
you know what i mean, right 🙂
what is happening in beautiful Porto today senhor cyber?
as a side note – i just learned that my middle name (which never made sense to me) is actually latin for: old man…how fitting…
Yeah, DD would make either Grimes or IQ duplicative…would almost seem like a precursor to losing one or both of those guys in a trade.
Even an Obi trade wouldn’t exactly free up a rotation spot for DiVincenzo, since he’d be yet another 6’4″ guard on a team that has a lot of them. Unless the plan is for Thibs to use Hart and RJ as the backup PFs, and thus to go small whenever Julius is on the bench. Yet DiVincenzo’s arrival feels as inevitable as Hart re-signing.
Hey Geo, thanks for the shoutout, we had our local holiday and big celebration last friday, it’s St John’s day! It’s a huge party where (almost) everybody in the city and surrounding areas goes to a tiny area (the old city center) to see the fireworks and then we roam around a more broader area of the city, usually with the traditional plastic hammers with a whistle, to hit people on their heads, or garlic flowers to rub people’s noses. LOL. Also we launch hot air paper balloons that light up the sky, there’s always thousands and thousands every year and it’s amazing. We even close air traffic during that time because of the balloons. So after this huge party, i don’t even know what’s going on this week. LOL. Oh, and the weather is helping to make me this way because it’s 88 degrees and i know in LA you’re used to it, but i’m not, i think i should’ve been born in Norway, there i wouldn’t feel hot a single day of the year, i guess. LOL. And how are you, Geo? How are things progressing?
So, you have turkish ancestry?
If you get DiVincenzo and Obi gets traded, who is the backup PF?
that sounds like sooooooo much fun cyber…what a wonderful celebration 🙂
I’m gonna have to remember this time (June 23ish) and the st John celebration…that sounds like an awesome time to visit…
probably my fondest memory of living in Germany was all the local festivals…
absolutely enchanting – even more so when you’re not really sure what the heck is going on – and there are lots of people around you drinking, laughing and eating…
although I get a little upset sometimes in crowds – I really love the din of voices, where it fills the air, but, no single conversation or words can really be understood…
I’m doing well, thank you so much for asking…it usually takes me a couple of months to get myself back together after one of these “nervous breakdown” health things…
so, starting to get busier in the garden and around the house…
a little concerned with ma, she’s 80 and her balance and mobility aren’t that great…she had a fall in the house a week or so ago and a slight accident in her car the other day…
it’s so weird – my reaction to her situation would be to bunker down even more than normal…
her reaction is the opposite…
still don’t like to drive or leave the house (other than to go say hi to the goats and pigs – I can take or leave the sheep)…
time is slowing down for me though – which is by far the biggest blessing I could ask for…
Like I said, right now it would be Hart and/or RJ. Which is a lineup Thibs used at times late in the season, and in the playoffs. (And at times during the earlier stretch of the season when Obi was injured and the iHart/Sims frontcourt wasn’t clicking.) Hart plays and rebounds much bigger than his size, and RJ is strong enough to go up against PFs, even if his athleticism isn’t great. You’d still want some kind of end of bencher who can credibly play PF on nights when we have multiple injuries. But I wouldn’t hate a rotation of:
STARTERS
C Mitch
PF Randle
SF RJ
SG Grimes
PG Brunson
BENCH
iHart
DiVincenzo
Hart
Quickley
Alan, I like that if Thibs was creative enough to add a bench PF to the “extended” rotation, maybe a vet’s min guy. There’s just some big teams out there that having a 6’5″ PF who doesn’t shoot 3’s won’t bode well against. But I don’t think that’s what the FO has in mind….swapping DD for Obi seems like a very minor upgrade.
Why is everyone so eager to trade Obi? If he was part of a bigger move to really upgrade the team that is one thing but why just move him to move him?
Randle could get hurt and if we don’t have Obi we would be in a lot of trouble. On top of that keeping Obi allows us the possibility of trading Randle if the right trade comes up. If we move Obi for some mediocre future pick we lose a good bench piece, a capable starter in case of injury, and become less athletic and less flexible when it comes to trying different looks.
Good to know you’re getting better, Geo.
And this is great. As i think i’ve already told you, every weekend i go out to explore the mountains for some hours, and it’s amazing because of the landscape, but to me it’s also for this same reason, there’s no time when i’m off to the mountains and that feels great. Sometimes i don’t even carry the phone with me, to not be annoyed with messages or phone calls. But my wife says i should take it with me for security, “you might need help and how are you going to ask for it without your phone?”, she’s probably right but maybe i think i’m invincible when i’m there. 😀
One last thing, be careful about your Ma driving, usually a slight accident is a sign that maybe the time to stop driving is getting near. Please be aware of this. My godfather insisted on driving from his city (Guimaraes, where Portugal was born) to Porto everyday, and that’s 35 miles one way and then 35 miles back, of course. After two or three slight accidents he had a greater accident that only ended up totally fine because he was entering the highway and it’s only one lane and there’s protections on the side, the car was the only big damage. But stay alert, at some point old people must stop driving, and it’s up to us, family, to get to that conclusion.
I agree with Z-Man, DiVincenzo in and Obi out doesn’t seem like the offseason Leon is planning, but let’s say we can’t get our targets and we settle for this little plan, i think in that case we’d try to get a free agent PF to be the backup, like Jae Crowder.
Any larger trade for a “star” would likely have to involve Quickley, so DD would make sense as a replacement bench piece. I’m just not sure who that star would be.
I’m sure Masai would love Quickley to replace Van Vleet, and Quick + RJ + 1st for OG + Flynn works as a trade. But that’s a lot to give up for a non-star.
That would be a good “sort of stand pat” outcome, cyber. But would Thibs go back to a 10-man rotation? I don’t think so…
And that’s the conundrum with Thibs…his rigidity plays into these musings.
I think nobody wants to get rid of Obi, Ben. The problem with Obi is that he is entering his final year on the rookie deal, probably he won’t accept what the Knicks would offer on an extension, because he plays less than 20MPG and you can’t be paying top dollars for that. And if you keep him and then next offseason some team offers him the kind of money you didn’t want to offer him, what would you do? Match it or let him walk for nothing. I’m not saying we should trade him, what i’m saying is that Leon must weigh all this things to know if we should keep him or not.
As sad as it’d be to let Quick go, this is an intriguing trade proposal. OG is a big improvement over RJ, and maybe DiVincenzo can get to 80% of what Quick was giving us.
Brunson, Grimes, OG, Randle, Mitch (DiVincenzo, Hart, Obi, iHart).
My son just sent me a random hypothetical for a PG13 trade:
RJ, Grimes, Fournier, ’24 unprotected, the Dallas pick, ’25 pick swap.
Assuming we pick up DD, that would result in a rotation of:
STARTERS
C Mitch
PF Randle
SF George
SG DD
PG Brunson
BENCH
iHart
Hart
Quickley
Obi
Or you could start IQ and bring DD off the bench
Interesting idea, I’m a no on this because 1) I believe in RJ a bit more than most, 2) I really love Grimes, and 3) I think PG’s best years are behind him and he’s not my cup of tea anyway. The plus side is that there would definitely be enough in the asset chest for another big move.
I don’t blame Thibs for the 9-man rotation, we had players that were hurting the rotation (Fournier, Cam and Rose) so he started playing only the guys that had earned their minutes and those were 9 guys. As simple as that. I think that if he has a good 10-man rotation, he’s going to play a 10-man rotation.
I don’t see why they would bring in DD other than Brunson and Hart lobbying for it. We have a glut of players that size. We need a legit sized SF that can hit 3s. That’s why they originally gambled on Reddish.
The only thing that makes sense is a series of trades that brings in OG Anunoby/D’Andre Hunter to be the SF (full sized) and moves out two of RJ, Grimes and Quickley and adds in DD.
I don’t like it.
I’d rather have BOTH of Grimes and Quickley over DD long term even though I can see them trying to add Anunoby or Hunter to add some length to starting rotation and upgrade from RJ.
Yeah, agreed. I think he only makes sense on the team if the team doesn’t look like the current team. Honestly, while he’s a good player, and ostensibly, getting him for the MLE is a great deal, it does seem like a bit of a waste of a move that would bring them right up to the luxury tax with re-signing Hart (without even factoring a new deal for IQ). Now, if they’re making a deal, then never mind, so, like most of these moves, we have to see the bigger picture to see if it makes sense.
My problem about a PG13 trade is this bit “I think PG’s best years are behind him“. And to add to that, last 4 seasons he has played in 189 out of 308 games. Meaning he missed around 40% of the games. I’d root for him to be great here if we trade for him, but i’m a no on the trade.
I’m all out on Paul George and if it comes with an extension I’m done with this franchise. Best case with George is a 1-2 year window IF he’s healthy in the playoffs. What’s that about 50-50 or 60-40 that he’ll even be healthy in the playoffs let alone we win it all even if he is. Then the window is slammed shut and we have fewer young players and assets.
Also, if you bring in DD and the trade IQ, you no longer have a backup point guard. Unless Deuce makes a massive leap forward on that end.
Strat, you are aware that Hunter has not been good, right? I don’t think we should waste assets on a reclamation project. Unless we can get him for cheap, i wouldn’t go after him.
Wait, Hunter will be paid 20M this season, then 21.7M, 23.3M and 24.9M. Ok, now i wouldn’t try to get Hunter even if it’s cheap.
I like the idea of Hunter. It’s just that the reality of Hunter is not anything like the idea of him.
https://twitter.com/NBA_University/status/1673103474639216640
Replace RJ with a net neutral player and this is a ~50 win team.
Replace RJ with Mikal Bridges and this is a top 3 seed and an NBA finals contender.
Worst in the league from top of the key and 9th worst at the rim.
https://twitter.com/NBA_University/status/1673056390091268099
Leon: Leave the rest of the rest of the team alone. Just fix the broken link with the best available piece and go back to sleep.
i definitely want Obi gone… he has next to no future here and he has a very narrow path to viability give his age and lack of valued production… and backup pf is probably the least needed position on an nba roster…. i really think he’s about to get dumped for nothing but who knows with these things… but the time is now to cycle through and move on….
divicenzo is a great role player… i really wanted to sign him last offseason… but now he’s just adding onto a problem we already have… at best he’s insurance for injury and regression… and whatever he’s gonna get paid it’s def gonna be way too much to be doing that… but it’s not a problem we’ll pay for immediately tho so i’m sure folks will love it….
but any player we get from here on out should be a one year deal or on a rookie contract unless they’re a core player… anymore long term money is going to likely cost picks or something to free room .. and we likely will need to at this rate..
it’s nice to have guys like hart and divicenzo but most good teams pay a quarter of the cost to do so… being the team that pays the ‘they got good’ tax on role players generally dont turn out well…
That really is why I think there should be a lot more urgency with this team building right now. The thing is, though, we don’t know that they are not doing that behind the scenes, ya know? I think Leon knows that he has to make a move. We’ll just see what it is (and DiVincenzo makes a lot more sense if there’s a move coming).
i mean a generous interpretation is that .. if you’re into reading the tea leaves… is something in the works for IQ…. which i wouldn’t be shocked on… and in order for all this to make sense it would be dumping IQ for a future pick… which i wouldn’t be entirely opposed to depending on the pick considering how much IQ is demanding and paying TWO sixth men that kind of price is lunacy…. paying one is just only a little terrible…
but with this history.. it’s a lot safer to assume it’s not going to make sense….
When his name first came up I said I was very against it because of the length of the contract and his recent lack of development.
The only positive angle I have is that I liked him out of college, he took a nice big step forward in year 2, had an injury in year 3, and was hurt on and off last year. If you are willing to say that when he’s healthy he can get back to his best level and start moving forward again, you can make a small case. He’s better than RJ from 3, I’d say better defensively, 6’8″, and can play backup PF. I don’t like it, but if they pulled it off cheaply in terms of assets, I could live with him as the starting SF. He’s an upgrade from RJ, but probably has less upside.
I’d play Hart as the starting 3 before I’d bother acquiring and playing Hunter there
People really think that of all the mediocre-to-not-very-good basketball players on the planet that the Knicks could have picked up they picked up Jacob, only to immediately trade his brother? What a weird and totally dick move.
But really I am with Ben R on his reasons for not doing that, at least under the team’s current configuration.
Maybe we are getting in position for Embiid if Harden leaves? There aren’t a lot of other stars that make sense rn. Maybe DeRozan if he comes cheaply enough? PG seems like more trouble than he’s worth. Perhaps Jaylen Brown will demand a trade, but I can’t see the Celtics trading him to us.
Oh, and it really won’t kill us to play Hart 10-15min against most backup PFs. If we really need to Roby, Sims, or iHart can step in at PF for a spell. Randle is going to play 40min a night in the playoffs anyway.
Man, getting Embiid would be something else. I’m not sure what, but definitely something else.
Barring an offer we can’t refuse, the best move with Obi would be to just keep him on his current deal and risk losing him for nothing. With the new CBA, I doubt anyone offers much to him as an RFA anyway unless he improves drastically, and that seems unlikely at this point. He could be a part of a bigger deal all the way up to the trade deadline, and who knows what the market will be like at that time as teams start panicking about the tax?
How much is playing Obi 15mpg worth? Even with a deflated RFA salary there’s probably better options
whoever Leon is – he seems like an okay guy who has a bunch of adept people and management skills…
I like the notion of Leon having a wrestling mat in his office and making folks wrestle it out for their agenda to be foremost…
thibs v wes
no accident achieving what he has…
To me, it only makes sense that they are negotiating with DD as an alternative to Hart. That is, they want Hart and are negotiating with him, but if they can’t come to acceptable terms maybe they will hire DiVincenzo instead.
I love the idea of figuring out a way to land DD without losing any current rotation players. Hopefully it will happen that way. He’s another fun two-way player to root for and he might be a bit of a late bloomer.
It really sucks that Fournier has like zero market value. I just can’t believe that a guy on an expiring contract that shoots as well as he does, at least tries hard on D, and is a good locker room guy, can’t help some team.
just saw on espn that tobias harris will get paid 39.3 million next year…that’s kinda shocking…
going forward – putting a roster together with brunson as a cornerstone, embiid would pair with him really well…
There’s some overthinking of a potential DDV signing going on here IMO.
First of all, back when the Brunson rumors started there was some debate as to his fit with the current roster. I maintained that if you have the chance to sign a good, young player with a coveted skillset in unrestricted free agency it is pretty much per se a good idea. You can figure everything else out later. Now, DDV is obviously not as good as Brunson, but I think the same principle applies. How the hell would signing him with the MLE possibly hurt us? He’ll play well for us, or he’ll play well for someone who trades us an asset for him.
Second, the full MLE is looking like a use-it-or-lose-it asset for us. It’s true that under the new CBA we get to keep it as a TPE if we don’t use it, but between the Quickley and Hart extensions we’re going to be a tax payer soon. No reason to let our last bite at the MLE apple go unused.
Lastly, even if we don’t have a move lined up before a potential DDV signing, we know one is coming. We’re not hitting the second apron with this group, the ceiling is too low. Everyone knows that. Signing DDV lets us get out ahead of the depth problems that might arise after our big move.
I don’t think our plan is to be a tax payer team with the current roster. If we just run it back, Leon will move Fournier to save money, maybe attaching 1 or 2 second round picks, i’d say.
He’s going to help someone, but we’ve trashed his value so badly we are probably going to either use him as salary filler in a deal or buy him out.
I think the Jacob Toppin explanation goes like this: season ticket holders who’d bought a Porzingis jersey were pissed when he was traded, so Leon is protecting himself against similarly disgruntled investors.
I hate the thought of Porzingis winning a championship on the Celtics.
I am 100% opposed to moving Quickley or Obi for a pick UNLESS we are going to turn around and use that pick right away in a trade to upgrade a position. At the end of the series of moves we should be a better team on a net basis or we screwed up.
We are not in pick accumulation mode.
We are improving the team mode.
You accumulate picks early in your turnaround using older players. You don’t do with with a playoff team and young guys like Quickley and Obi.
DD may be a bit cheaper than Quickley, but he’s not nearly as good as him. I don’t even consider it close.
If you move Obi, you better have a better back PF.
They are talking about Gallinari potentially going to Miami after he gets bought out.
“First of all, back when the Brunson rumors started there was some debate as to his fit with the current roster.”
Brunson’s a TERRIBLE fit on this roster! You can’t have a ball-hogging mid-range artist point guard teamed with two ball-hogging mid-range shooters/drivers and a dunk-only center. What a horrible idea!
I mean, amirite?
The irony is that if we replaced RJ with a floor spacing SF, Brunson might be noticeably more efficient also. We know this team does not have good enough spacing to maximize Brunson. He just improved the spacing (as well as boatload of other things) from the dark days of Payton.
I still think the move is trading Randle for Cam Johnson. I am unsure if Brooklyn does it but Randle makes a ton of sense for them. They are the 2nd worst rebounding team and could use some toughness inside. They could also use another offensive focal point, I don’t think Bridges can carry the load all alone.
It gets us a shooter, improves our defense, and makes us more positionally flexible, potentially freeing Obi for some more minutes next to Cam.
I like the idea, Ben, but my guess is that it has almost no chance of happening. Looks like Cam will either re-up with the Nets or wind up in Detroit.
On another note, how is Sabonis only worth 4/$120M??
I don’t recall that at all. What could the possible argument have been? He was clearly a good fit.
They’d be in the tax with an IQ extension even with Fournier being removed from the team. That’s why they likely won’t extend IQ this year.
I think there are two reasons Sabonis isn’t getting a max extension: first, he may be giving Sacto a discount if they make a real move with the extra money. Secondly, he was totally neutered on offense and defense in the playoffs and that probably suppressed his value.
Also, I think it would be malpractice to trade IQ for a first. He’s our third or fourth best player and is worth more than the average mid lotto pick even on extension money, and that’s without projecting any further growth. He’s really good! I would extend him, but RFA would be fine if Leon wants to keep the cap clean into next year.
Have you seen Sabonis play defense? Neither has anyone else
He was visibly kicked in the heart chakra by a 250 pound man while he lay on the ground, seems kind of unfair to dock him $30,000,000 for that.
A quick perusal of the max contract recipient list in the NBA indicates to me that defense plays no role when it comes to offering players a lot of money.
If Portland goes the rebuild route and trades Dame, what would you all think of going after Thybulle?
Thybulle plus Hart, IQ, and Grimes would be a pretty potent defensive group on the wing.
Portland literally swapped out Hart for Thybulle and proceeded to lose 11 out of their next 15 games. Doc Rivers wasn’t a good coach in Philly, but don’t let that fool you into thinking that Thybulle deserved more than 12 mpg there. Even surrounding him with two all-time great scorers didn’t soften the anemia of his offense, surrounding him with Knicks isn’t gonna make him better (no offense to Grimes, Hart, and IQ:)