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I think it was just me, Hubert. The others only pointed out the odds, which i think you know it’s a fact, right? The odds are the odds. Of course, at some point some team has to be the outlier that breaks the odds, congrats to you for being able to foreseen it.
I know the Heat will tie our record of being the only 8th seed to reach the NBA Finals, and although i have little faith they can pull off an upset after letting a 3-0 series go to game 7, i think i still prefer the Heat. Celtics fans will be insufferable for being the first to come back from a 0-3 deficit, and… i don’t know if Jokic and the no defense Nuggets can handle the Celtics on a momentum such as the one they’ll be, if they win game 7.
i hope game 7 ends the way 6 did but gabe vincent banks it in and the celts fans stagger away in a daze….
@cyber…i don’t think the warriors were a defensive force last year and they beat the celtics …so not sure the nuggets lack of defensive prowess is leading to a celtics series victory…I do see Robert Williams being a more effective jokic weapon though then what the lakers or suns threw at him…
Let’s hope so. I’ll be rooting hard for the Nuggets, and i think Jokic deserves a title. He’s outstanding. And as i’m very bad at predictions, maybe thinking the Celtics will win can be a good thing! 😀 😉
Even though the officiating last night was questionable at best, I think the Heat are cooked. They’ll get past Boston, but they won’t have much left in the tank for Denver. The Finals might be a gentleman’s sweep- and it sucks because I am such a huge Jimmy Butler fan. But Jokic is in a really good groove and Murray seems like he’s all the way back. Plus Denver really hasn’t used guys who can play like Thomas Bryant and Bobby Shmurda- err Reggie Jackson.
Miami will have a helluva fight in the Finals.
As a side note that has nothing to do with hoops..
My daughter wanted to see The Little Mermaid yesterday, and let me tell you- Melissa Mccarthy was IN-FUCKIN-CREDIBLE as Ursula. Haile Bailey did a great job as Ariel..but Mccarthy stole the show. The movie was good..but not Lion King live action good lol
Sorry for the girl dad moment..carry on lol
I give the Celtics about an 80% chance of winning game 7.
The main reason the game yesterday was even close was that Boston was 7-35 form 3 (Brown and Tatum were 0-12).
When the series was 3-1, I said I expected the Heat would win because the Celtics stars were too inconsistent to play three high level games in a row even though they were the better team. Last night was the game I was talking about. What I didn’t expect was Butler and Bam to be equally bad on the same night.
To win game 7 the Heat are going to require another tough night from 3 from the Celtics and their own stars to put the ball in the basket.
Hubert wasn’t alone after game 4:
Z–man says:
May 24, 2023 at 17:37
This particular series is different when you look closely at the particulars. Boston has been playing well below their predicted level based on their record, health, personnel and recent playoff experience. Miami has gone way further than anyone really expected going into the playoffs and are far more lileky to run into a wall of sorts than a typical “up 3-0 team”.
It wasn’t that long ago that the same “it’s never happened so it’s not going to happen” logic was refuted in that Yankees-Red Sox series. This is a pretty experienced and savvy Celtics group with depth, talent and leadership, and some real advantages over the Heat. If they stay on the same page like they did last night and play to the backs or their bubble gum cards, they can definitely pull it off.
Put another way in retrospect, I was more shocked that the Heat went up 3-0 than I would be if they went on to lose. The Celts were in a funk and the savvy Heat took advantage of it. Once their backs were against the wall, they regrouped the same way they did against the Sixers.
I see that TNFH was also not ready to throw in the towel for the Celts at that time, for all the same reasons.
That said, I would be very surprised but not shocked if Boston lost game 7 at home. They were very lucky to escape last night on a lucky bounce and a brainfart on a simple boxout. If their shooting goes cold and Jimmy plays like he did in the last 5 minutes rather than the shitshow before that, anything could happen.
But assuming that Boston pulls it off, Denver should be a very formidable opponent for them.
I will say this though..
The EC should be thankful Gallinari got hurt. Can you imagine that team with him playing Grant Williams’ minutes all season? Or even starting at PF next to Horford? Hell..a 2nd unit of Time Lord/Gallinari/Brogdon/White would be scary considering how well the starting 5 played this season. I hate the C’s lol
One thing that works in the Heat’s favor is that Malcolm Brogdan is not going to be healthy in Game 7 whether he plays or not. He is a huge part of their depth. Both teams are pretty banged up now.
No matter what happens I think the nuggets will beat either of these teams and maybe quite easily.
I’m with you, Swiftie.
Another reason I’m rooting for the Nuggets over either option from the east, besides hating both options, is I can’t remember the last time a superstar was so rootable. There’s just nothing hateful about Jokic, and his game is so amazing. Giannis is pretty rootable too, but he’s so otherworldly physically dominant it kind of feels unfair at times.
So Denver in four. Fingers crossed.
Yeah, I’m excited to root for Denver over whichever team comes out of the east for the reasons elucidated here. Jokic is sublime and is an endearing guy as well. I’ve been relatively indifferent about the Heat-Celtics series but I’ll be excited to watch the finals.
No it wasn’t. You’re a kind and genuine poster, cyber. From one of my favorite European countries, no less. I have not a shred of ill will towards you. It was 100% directed at darules & no one else.
I thought darules’ comment was amusing and insightful.
Apparently also inciteful.
If you are the Nuggets, I guarantee you were and still are hoping the Heat come out of east. Everyone knows the Celtics are the better team. Miami is just a lot better than their regular season indicated.
The results of a handful of games can go either way, especially these days when teams shoot so many 3s and invite greater short term randomness for some theoretical long term advantage in efficiency.
If you ask me, the dumbest thing the Celtics can do in game 7 is shoot a lot of 3s unless they are getting very high quality looks. I’d run and attack and attack and attack. The smartest thing the Heat can do is fire away and pray the gods of randomness are on their side.
Personally, last night’s Heat debacle cost me theoretical money even though I didn’t bet the game. I’d WAY rather the Heat come out of the east. That way it will be way cheaper for me to hedge my 16-1 on the Nuggets and come away with a profit either way. It will cost more to hedge the Celtics because everyone knows they would have a better chance against the Nuggets than the Heat. So the odds on them will be lower.
Thanks Raven. I really enjoyed G6 last night. A mixture of the 90s Knicks toughness, and 2020s creativity, and at the end of this series Jokic is waiting. The NBA rarely if ever gets better than this.
The odds were never long, though. Boston was only plus 225. They were heavy favorites in every game. You guys were making up your own odds based on the history of teams down 3-0.
I agree.
I’ve also been saying from day 1 of these discussions the stats based on history were garbage because it’s very rare for the clearly better team to be down 3-0 or 3-1 AND have home court. In most cases it’s an inferior team and they don’t have a home court edge.
This was a very rare situation.
Once the Heat got up 3-0 they were a significant favorite to close it out, but nowhere near what the history suggested.
These things can be calculated (or at least estimated) using the same models that people use to estimate the odds on individual games. You are just applying them to a sequence of games.
lol geo, keep ’em coming! Mostly the same, I’ve always been pretty interested in keeping up with the news of the day. As an aside, for most of my 17 years as principal I taught a once-a week class loosely called Current Events to my 8th graders. It was mostly a vehicle to whet my appetite for teaching that was starved by the demands of being a principal. I had to give it up about 5 years ago because the DOE kept dumping so much bureaucratic work on principals that I just couldn’t spare the 4 hours in the work week to continue teaching the class. But since retiring I have probably kept even more informed simply by having more time to surf the web.
you adult-children need to settle the fuck down
ah okay, thank you z-man…the same as before, and, it’s also a personal interest for yourself, which keeps you connected…
I think about what you said about waking up in the morning, and the different feeling you have now…
a feeling of moving more at your own pace…
I reflect on that now each morning…it is nice, very nice…
my heart no longer begins racing as soon as I wake up…
So, you guys still like succession?
What team is he on?
Zero interest in watching Succession. If I wanted to experience outrage, especially about the rich and powerful (and white) treating others badly and expressing extreme moral turpitude, I can read the newspapers. Which I do, and THAT exhausts me.
Sorry, Alan.
This has been a rather dreary Mets season, as none of the pitchers seem able to get anybody out. But it’s pretty nice that the star catching prospect is playing like Johnny Bench’s big brother so far
i’m on “Max” now going through Deadwood for like the 10th time…
it’s funny, my friend never watches the same movie/show twice…
i love watching stuff over and over and over again…i find the content even more immersive after the first time through…
heck, i read a lot of the same books over again too…
Succession is absolutely sticking the landing. They have a solid 90 minutes (or whatever) tonight to ensure that nothing goes wrong. I believe in the writers.
Excellent show. Hilariously funny and unbearably heavy like Great TV should be. Worth the watch.
Just finished The Wire for the last time. Thoughts: Season 5 worse than I remember. Some of the child acting is downright horrible, even if you have to grade that sort of shit on a sliding scale. Writing across the series is terribly uneven. Tommy Carcetti’s accent should have earned Littlefinger a permanent ban from American screens. Lester Freamon is essentially a voice-over narrator for half his scenes, which is a waste of a good actor. Waaaaaay too many “sharing-a-knowing-smile-and-nod” moments. Heavy-handed in the both-sides-are-fucked parallel storylines. Omar is a cartoon. Brother Mouzzone just makes it worse. Bubbles’ storyline still makes me misty. Essentially a David Simon cultural jeremiad as much as Sopranos was David Chase’s. Great TV, but aged TV all the same.
I‘m so far behind on TV it’s pointless to even try to catch up. I still have I think 2 1/2 seasons of Better Call Saul to watch, and there’s just no hope I’ll ever get around to Succession or any other prestige TV that was created after my kid was born. I did make it through the full season of Andor, which I loved, but just can’t get motivated to do the latest season of The Mandalorian.
The plus side is that I’m utterly swamped with music projects… right now I’m pitching tons of song ideas for some huge hip hop records, composing a commercial that is full in-the-box orchestra vibes, and making a music library that is all soundalikes of 80’s cheese in the vein of Survivor, Sammy Hagar, and Starship. The big tent pole hip hop record I’m writing for should be wrapping up in the next month or so, and if I get a few cuts on that it’ll be a game changer for my career.
I also have a growing pile of books I’m trying to get through, and I’m slowly making my way through Dilla Time, the amazing biography of J Dilla, which I am finding to be super inspiring.
Current Dilla beat with which I am obsessed: “Runnin’” by The Pharcyde
https://youtu.be/pwHuEDCM7xs
some news stuff captures my eye…
not really politics (although the turkey stuff is – noteworthy)…such an amazing part of the world in terms of the development of our current cultures…
that’s so cool that not only does gobeckli tepe exist, they’ve also not so long ago discovered a similar location at karahan tepe…it appears now that there was an area of over 120 miles or so that was pretty darn civilized and well populated like 12,000 years ago…add in that the derinkuyu cave system – that’s a lot of folks living/working together…got to figure – they are gonna figure some shit out on how to make themselves as safe and as comfortable as possible…and, lots of folks working together, means, lots of folks with time and resources…to figure shit out 🙂
recently also heard that the previous population estimates for the mayan culture may have been grossly underestimated…
it was the mayans i think, like guatamala was seriously packed with folks for a time – assholes to elbows…i don’t know, may have been those mississippi mound folks instead though…
right now it’s understood that there was no writing system in the americas until like 800 bce or so, not counting petroglyphs, i guess…that doesn’t make any sense…unless they all had like amazing memories or something…or the conquistadors and church really did: “burn it all”…
written communications wouldn’t seem to be such a huge hurdle in cultural advancement, it seems pretty natural, an inherent trait, method and means differing across time…
it’s amazing that someone did think in terms of permanence and put cuneiform on stone…that was some ingenuity there…
for me it’s incredibly encouraging and somewhat prideful to know our ancestors weren’t just plucking bugs from each others’ hair prior to the last ice age melting off…
that previous perspective of both neolithic and especially paleolithic folks always seemed to be pretty dubious…
unless a civilization is dealing in plastics and radioactive materials – not a whole lot of anything remains after 20,000 years or so…
amazing masonry and engineering though even dating back to what does still remain…
the question for me has always been – what’s the magic number in terms of continuous human advantageous climate and population necessary for technological advancement…instinct draws folks to the best locations for survival…
it’ll only take us about five and a half thousand years of recorded writing, and relative catastrophe free climate, to put a mickey d’s on the moon…
just in the last sixty thousand years or so, you have to figure that’s happened a few times, at least…
What?
why? what?
😛
pharcyde got me hooked when they collaborated with another band i liked at the time (brand new heavies – soul flower)…pharcyde has crazy sharp lyrics and beats, atypical and fun pitches for the vocalists…
Just a lot to unpack there out of the blue, is all.
TLDR version:
good for us, us being humans, mostly human anyway…we’ve been stylin’ and profilin’ for a whole lot longer than what we previously thought – some like 80 thousand year old leatherworking tool was recently discovered (northern africa i think)…
the incredible advancement we’ve made in terms of our remote sensing technology is helping us find all kinds of shit that’s been previously lost to time…that and the fact people have nearly covered every inhabitable option on the planet now, and they’re digging old shit up at those places 🙂
sorry doogie, we wuz talking current events, and the current i find most interesting happened way long ago…
understanding the past can help with the whole prospective inference thing…plus – it’s cool to think that atlantis wasn’t simply a fictional story…that perhaps, it was not alone for its time…time before…a lot can happen in just 10,000 years of relatively ideal conditions for humans, with very little evidence to remain after its passing…
oh and doogie – please always – remember this…
Succession is probably my favorite TV show of all time. I think they nail the delicate balance of not implying you should be “rooting” for these god awful people (not that that’s stopped people) per se while still humanizing them to the necessary extent. Very excited for tonight, though also very sad it’s over.
this last season of Barry…is some of the best “i don’t know what genre” it is Tv….i think i have ever watched…funniest shit ever…
I am excited a bit for the Celtics to win it all, if they do, to watch the NBA Narrative Industrial Complex contort itself into making Mazzullla into a great coach.
JK, “Runnin” is one of my all time favorites.
I just listened to a Brandon Miller draft report on the way to work. He’s a 6’9” wing who can really shoot and can pass, dribble and defend reasonably well. He’s expected, in principle, to go high in the draft. But he’s a teammate of the person up on murder charges in Alabama and somewhat involved but apparently not guilty of any crimes because he returned the shooter’s gun to him just before the killing. Teams may be leery of that involvement, especially after all the Morant news. If this means the Knicks have a reasonable shot at trading for him, does the hive mind want him?
JK, semi-congratulations and all 10 fingers crossed for you!
And Knicks Fan, what a horrible question. I’m partly saying something because it feels wrong to congratulate JK without addressing your question too, and partly because it’s actually a fascinating (if horrible) question.
He’s probably a fine kid, but he wasn’t just standing nearby looking at his phone when it went down. I lean pretty heavily on character, and also on not creating an endless press morass around my team. I wish the kid well and hope he has a great career, but my tendency would be to look elsewhere.
If I was a real GM and could cook the cold, hard numbers, maybe I’d think differently (and really, I only know the surface story). But from my armchair it’s easy to say, why open that particular can of shit.
I am loving how Mazzulla is having no time for the media, because he knows that they were all talking shit about him.
I agree it’s a fascinating but horrible question. Maybe I shouldn’t have asked it. The problem is, I suspect having him on your team is asking for trouble even if it wasn’t trouble for him this time. I mean, he’s friends with people who get into gun fights and kill other people. If I were a team thinking about him, I’d want investigate his character thoroughly, but that’s not easy to do.
Never catch up with your heroes a decade later.
You know what the saddest example of that is, by the way? Go watch a 90s Knicks game from start to finish. It can be brutal. Better to leave those memories be.